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iss · Aug 4th, 2012, 6:32:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Ray Jay

Rules of thumb: The higher the stat, the more EVs it takes to increase said stat

Most stats max at 196 or 236 EVs

Any other knowledge you need on EVs can be found by simply messing with the numbers

This is incorrect, actually. The number of EVs required to max a stat depends on the units digit of the stat. The reason why most stats max at 196 or 236 is that many stats end in 0 or 5, which require 196 and 236 EVs to max, respectively.

PO's teambuilder made manually finding EVs pretty useless, but with no sliders currently on PS, learning at least 36/116/196 for x0 and 76/156/236 for x5 stats is pretty useful.

Ray Jay · Aug 4th, 2012, 7:49:25 PM

Yeah I guess I've just never paid attention to base stats

The point still stands most stats max at 196 and 236, and learning the little rules iss mentioned is only useful if you can memorize Pokemon's base stats, which I can't.

Totes · Aug 6th, 2012, 6:34:06 PM

Is the only way to get rapid spin and bug bite on a pineco for little cup is by breeding?

iss · Aug 6th, 2012, 8:10:36 PM

Yes. You can get Bug Bite through a tutor but Rapid Spin must be bred.

masterbreeder · Aug 16th, 2012, 11:54:31 AM

Are Scyther and Sneasel allowed into the Little Cup by the game?

iss · Aug 16th, 2012, 11:58:11 AM

Little Cup isn't really implemented into the cartridge (neither is any Smogon metagame). If you do battles over Wi-Fi, I'd suggest you stick to Smogon rules. The game won't prevent you from bringing banned Pokemon though.

Shinji Mimura · Aug 23rd, 2012, 11:35:55 PM

Has anybody tried Shadow Tag Gothita?

**Elevator Music** · Aug 24th, 2012, 12:06:38 AM

Sadly we can't. The Gothorita giveaway was male only, so it can grow to be Gothitelle but it can't breed its Shadow Tag ability to its offspring.

Mylo Xyloto · Aug 24th, 2012, 5:37:08 PM

I need a Safe Snover (Blizzard) swith-in, any thoughts?

Gengan · Aug 24th, 2012, 5:38:40 PM

Well, I'll ask what tier, but anything with a Steel-typing is usually a decent switch-in.

Mylo Xyloto · Aug 24th, 2012, 5:52:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Gengan

Well, I'll ask what tier, but anything with a Steel-typing is usually a decent switch-in.

Yeah I know but who...

**Elevator Music** · Aug 24th, 2012, 6:04:57 PM

The best switchins to Snover are indeed Steel-types. The problem is that they all lack recovery and will be worn down pretty fast (luckily Snover tends to get worn down quickly as well, especially if you have SR. Fire-types also work decently. Steels have to watch out for HP Fire though, and Fire-types have to be careful of HP Rock (especially Larvesta) and Stealth Rock wearing them down.

Bronzor, Larvesta, Eviolite Pawniard, Houndour, and Ponyta are all decent switchins. Munchlax and Lickitung do OK too. The analysis also mentions Tentacool, who is I suppose good as well. If I had to pick the one I would use, it would probably be Larvesta, because 1) it has recovery in Morning Sun (even though its gimped by Hail), and 2) it has lots of other functions (screws over Mienfoo, spams U-turn to gain momentum, etc).

Mylo Xyloto · Aug 24th, 2012, 6:07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Elevator Music

The best switchins to Snover are indeed Steel-types. The problem is that they all lack recovery and will be worn down pretty fast (luckily Snover tends to get worn down quickly as well, especially if you have SR. Fire-types also work decently. Steels have to watch out for HP Fire though, and Fire-types have to be careful of HP Rock (especially Larvesta).

Bronzor, Larvesta, Eviolite Pawniard, Houndour, and Ponyta are all decent switchins. Munchlax and Lickitung do OK too. The analysis also mentions Tentacool, who is I suppose good as well.

Thanks will be using Houndour. It also helps with my Missy weakness.

Lord of the Fireflies · Aug 24th, 2012, 9:09:55 PM

Are the Hoenn starters legal with their DW ability? If they are, do they have any restrictions appart from 4th Gen tutor and TM moves?

Gengan · Aug 24th, 2012, 9:11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Lord of the Fireflies

Are the Hoenn starters legal with their DW ability? If they are, do they have any restrictions appart from 4th Gen tutor and TM moves?

They are not legal. All starters that received a DW ability received it at lvl 10 and male, making the abilities illegal.

Bald Accountant · Aug 25th, 2012, 5:23:48 PM

This is a goofy question, but Murkrow is listed as NU, but it has a LC set on Smogon
Same with Misdreavus.
I think that if Smogon in it's infinte wisdom put out a little cup xet, that means the poke can be used in NU or LC
But my opponent who just disconnected in a wifi match insists they are NU, not LC
But they are level 5 exactly according to the smogon sets.

iss · Aug 25th, 2012, 5:34:43 PM

LC's tiering is completely seperate from the Ubers/OU/UU/RU/NU system. Since some LC Pokemon are viable in NU, they have NU analyses. Smogon lists the highest tier a Pokemon has an analysis for. They are still LC legal, however, unless they are explicitly banned by LC.

Bald Accountant · Aug 25th, 2012, 5:40:10 PM

Thanks, that's what I thought

Nicoelson · Sep 2nd, 2012, 9:00:20 AM

please help:

how can i create a lc battle in bw2? i cant find the rules like in gen4, that you could choose when searching.

Ray Jay · Sep 2nd, 2012, 9:20:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Nicoelson

please help:

how can i create a lc battle in bw2? i cant find the rules like in gen4, that you could choose when searching.

Our official simulator is Pokemon Showdown!.

Rules can be found here.

The Agonist · Sep 8th, 2012, 4:32:05 AM

Would Unnerve be a viable choice over Mold Breaker for Axew? Seeing as it doesn't really have any moves to abuse Mold Breaker with, and there are a fair number of berry users in LC.

SpecsX · Sep 8th, 2012, 8:03:07 AM

Unnerve is actually the preferred ability in LC for the reasons you stated.

prem · Sep 8th, 2012, 10:58:09 AM

both abilities are generally useless, but mold breaker is probably better because there are no berry users in lc aside from dwebble, who has sturdy which gets stopped by mold breaker. mold breaker just helps against some things like shelmet, dwebble

**Pocket** · Sep 13th, 2012, 5:00:54 PM

I would have posted on an np thread, but I don't see one :o

Just saw someone owning with Darumaka. I've also seen mons like Ponyta and Houndour being lethal in LC. Which is the best LC fire-type, and what are good ways to support it?

Gengan · Sep 13th, 2012, 5:05:27 PM

There isn't really a "best" Fire-type in LC; each one has their own pros and cons.

Aug 4th, 2012, 7:49:25 PM	#227
Ray Jay Clearly cannot choose the wine in front of you Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,507	Yeah I guess I've just never paid attention to base stats The point still stands most stats max at 196 and 236, and learning the little rules iss mentioned is only useful if you can memorize Pokemon's base stats, which I can't. __________________ Don't count the days, make the days count. Katakiri: How did you even get into this university?

Aug 6th, 2012, 8:10:36 PM	#229
iss perpetual semifinalist Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,969 sirndpt <3	Yes. You can get Bug Bite through a tutor but Rapid Spin must be bred. __________________ "Mienfoo is a shitty Pokemon." - blarajan

Aug 16th, 2012, 11:58:11 AM	#231
iss perpetual semifinalist Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,969 sirndpt <3	Little Cup isn't really implemented into the cartridge (neither is any Smogon metagame). If you do battles over Wi-Fi, I'd suggest you stick to Smogon rules. The game won't prevent you from bringing banned Pokemon though. __________________ "Mienfoo is a shitty Pokemon." - blarajan

Aug 23rd, 2012, 11:35:55 PM	#232
Shinji Mimura Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 49 San Antonio, TX	Has anybody tried Shadow Tag Gothita? __________________ I enjoy reading, studying, and researching competitive Pokemon. I'm like a professional sports coach; I may not be the greatest player, but I understand the game like the greatest player.

Aug 24th, 2012, 12:06:38 AM	#233
Elevator Music there is actually no underscore in my name Moderator Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 5,443	Sadly we can't. The Gothorita giveaway was male only, so it can grow to be Gothitelle but it can't breed its Shadow Tag ability to its offspring. __________________

Aug 6th, 2012, 6:34:06 PM	#228
Totes Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 9	Is the only way to get rapid spin and bug bite on a pineco for little cup is by breeding?

Aug 16th, 2012, 11:54:31 AM	#230
masterbreeder Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 45 California, US	Are Scyther and Sneasel allowed into the Little Cup by the game?

Aug 24th, 2012, 5:37:08 PM	#234
Mylo Xyloto Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 393 RSA	I need a Safe Snover (Blizzard) swith-in, any thoughts?

Aug 24th, 2012, 5:38:40 PM	#235
Gengan Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 545 We bought boobs	Well, I'll ask what tier, but anything with a Steel-typing is usually a decent switch-in. __________________ Pokemon LP Center \| My Analysis \| Best Thread 2012 \| Feebas, the Mighty <Gengan> .qm Will you marry me NOW? <QMark> Gengan: Eww, you're a squishy human. Of course not!

Aug 24th, 2012, 6:04:57 PM	#237
Elevator Music there is actually no underscore in my name Moderator Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 5,443	The best switchins to Snover are indeed Steel-types. The problem is that they all lack recovery and will be worn down pretty fast (luckily Snover tends to get worn down quickly as well, especially if you have SR. Fire-types also work decently. Steels have to watch out for HP Fire though, and Fire-types have to be careful of HP Rock (especially Larvesta) and Stealth Rock wearing them down. Bronzor, Larvesta, Eviolite Pawniard, Houndour, and Ponyta are all decent switchins. Munchlax and Lickitung do OK too. The analysis also mentions Tentacool, who is I suppose good as well. If I had to pick the one I would use, it would probably be Larvesta, because 1) it has recovery in Morning Sun (even though its gimped by Hail), and 2) it has lots of other functions (screws over Mienfoo, spams U-turn to gain momentum, etc). __________________

Aug 24th, 2012, 9:09:55 PM	#239
Lord of the Fireflies Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 41	Are the Hoenn starters legal with their DW ability? If they are, do they have any restrictions appart from 4th Gen tutor and TM moves?

Aug 25th, 2012, 5:23:48 PM	#241
Bald Accountant Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 24	This is a goofy question, but Murkrow is listed as NU, but it has a LC set on Smogon Same with Misdreavus. I think that if Smogon in it's infinte wisdom put out a little cup xet, that means the poke can be used in NU or LC But my opponent who just disconnected in a wifi match insists they are NU, not LC But they are level 5 exactly according to the smogon sets. __________________ BABA - Bald Accountant's Battle Arena - Where friends battle. BABA Index BABA Gym Black FC 0776 8124 7545 White FC 3182 1659 4592 Pokemon LC Group

Aug 25th, 2012, 5:34:43 PM	#242
iss perpetual semifinalist Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,969 sirndpt <3	LC's tiering is completely seperate from the Ubers/OU/UU/RU/NU system. Since some LC Pokemon are viable in NU, they have NU analyses. Smogon lists the highest tier a Pokemon has an analysis for. They are still LC legal, however, unless they are explicitly banned by LC. __________________ "Mienfoo is a shitty Pokemon." - blarajan

Aug 25th, 2012, 5:40:10 PM	#243
Bald Accountant Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 24	Thanks, that's what I thought __________________ BABA - Bald Accountant's Battle Arena - Where friends battle. BABA Index BABA Gym Black FC 0776 8124 7545 White FC 3182 1659 4592 Pokemon LC Group

Sep 2nd, 2012, 9:00:20 AM	#244
Nicoelson Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 2	How to start a little cup battle in g5? please help: how can i create a lc battle in bw2? i cant find the rules like in gen4, that you could choose when searching.

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Sep 13th, 2012, 5:00:54 PM	#249
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