VGC Ask a Simple Question, Get a Simple Answer - Mark II - Page 15

Golden Piloswine · Sep 30th, 2012, 9:17:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat voodoo pimp

Each event has its own start time, look at the link to the Play! Pokémon page for whichever one you're going to.

He's going to Philadelphia.

CooltrainerAlan · Sep 30th, 2012, 10:19:32 PM

For the guy asking about stats, Smogon's format is:
Min -= Hindering nature with 31 IVs
Min= Uninvested 31 IVs
Max= Neutral 252 EVs 31 IVs
Max += Boosted Nature 252 EVs 31 IVs.

Bulbapedia
Min: -Nature, 0 IVs, 0 EVs
Max:+Nature, 31 IVs, 252 EVs

Golden Piloswine · Sep 30th, 2012, 10:43:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat CooltrainerAlan

For the guy asking about stats, Smogon's format is:
Min -= Hindering nature with 31 IVs
Min= Uninvested 31 IVs
Max= Neutral 252 EVs 31 IVs
Max += Boosted Nature 252 EVs 31 IVs.

Bulbapedia
Min: -Nature, 0 IVs, 0 EVs
Max:+Nature, 31 IVs, 252 EVs

? This makes no sense.

o Min- means that it has a hindering nature with 0 Ev's.
o What your saying Min means makes no sense at all.
o Everything else seems to be in order.

Wiretap · Sep 30th, 2012, 11:20:25 PM

I know the question as to whether or not pokemon from bw2 can be used in the October regionals has been answered, but I have a slightly more grey-area one. Can unova pokemon with dream world abilities be used? It is possible to receive a female dw unova pokemon from bw2 and breed it in a bw1 game, thus providing a completely legitimate bw1 dw unova pokemon.

Drifblim · Sep 30th, 2012, 11:24:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Wiretap

I know the question as to whether or not pokemon from bw2 can be used in the October regionals has been answered, but I have a slightly more grey-area one. Can unova pokemon with dream world abilities be used? It is possible to receive a female dw unova pokemon from bw2 and breed it in a bw1 game, thus providing a completely legitimate bw1 dw unova pokemon.

No, unless like with Musharna and Darmanitan it is possible to get it through use of ONLY BW1.

Wiretap · Sep 30th, 2012, 11:28:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Drifblim

No, unless like with Musharna and Darmanitan it is possible to get it through use of ONLY BW1.

Is that sourced anywhere? Not that I doubt you, but I want to be prepared for anything that comes my way. I saw an English speed boost Blaziken at regionals last year that didn't get caught by the hack check since it was "legitimate".

JRank · Sep 30th, 2012, 11:32:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Wiretap

Is that sourced anywhere? Not that I doubt you, but I want to be prepared for anything that comes my way. I saw an English speed boost Blaziken at regionals last year that didn't get caught by the hack check since it was "legitimate".

When you trade a Japanese Pokemon to a North American cart (ie a Speed Boost Torchic), it changes to an English name when you evolve it. Completely legitimate.

Wiretap · Sep 30th, 2012, 11:34:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat JRank

When you trade a Japanese Pokemon to a North American cart (ie a Speed Boost Torchic), it changes to an English name when you evolve it. Completely legitimate.

Hmmm, did not know that. Thanks.

Sprocket · Sep 30th, 2012, 11:36:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Wiretap

I know the question as to whether or not pokemon from bw2 can be used in the October regionals has been answered, but I have a slightly more grey-area one. Can unova pokemon with dream world abilities be used? It is possible to receive a female dw unova pokemon from bw2 and breed it in a bw1 game, thus providing a completely legitimate bw1 dw unova pokemon.

The only legitimate BW1 Unova Pokemon with their Dream World abilities are Munna, Musharna, Darumaka, and Darmanitan (of which only Musharna's is useful in VGC). And I guess that traded Basculin in-game. Which means any other Unova Pokemon with their dream world abilities are illegal in this tournament.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat JRank

When you trade a Japanese Pokemon to a North American cart (ie a Speed Boost Torchic), it changes to an English name when you evolve it. Completely legitimate.

Unless nicknamed I believe. But yes, I can back this statement up.

callforjudgement · Oct 1st, 2012, 5:34:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Branny00

Do you need to pay for ANYTHING (except for gas) if you go to VGC? Registration, anything?

NVM my last post, I figured it out. Now let me ask: What time does it start in EST? Like does it last from 8:00 AM to 5:00 PM EST? Also, what is VGC 2013 format? Single Elimination, Swiss Pairings?

Per the payment thing, I've never seen a VGC with an entry fee, but you should bring a packed lunch; they have a tendency to overcharge for food.

Sprocket · Oct 1st, 2012, 9:00:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat callforjudgement

Per the payment thing, I've never seen a VGC with an entry fee, but you should bring a packed lunch; they have a tendency to overcharge for food.

The VGC event itself doesn't serve food, rather the hotel or convention center that hosts the VGC does the food serving. And per the norm for hotels and convention centers, food is marked up 200%.

If transportation isn't an issue I'd research nearby restaurants.

Golden Piloswine · Oct 1st, 2012, 3:25:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Sprocket

The VGC event itself doesn't serve food, rather the hotel or convention center that hosts the VGC does the food serving. And per the norm for hotels and convention centers, food is marked up 200%.

If transportation isn't an issue I'd research nearby restaurants.

The little temporary Kiosks that TPCi let's em' set up there charge stuff for so much money. $220.00 US dollars for a misprint Persian card, what a rip.

The Knights of Wario Land · Oct 1st, 2012, 7:17:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat callforjudgement

Per the payment thing, I've never seen a VGC with an entry fee, but you should bring a packed lunch; they have a tendency to overcharge for food.

If you're in Masters you have plenty of time to eat waiting for Juniors+Seniors, and most places are next to a mall of somesort, so if you gotta hurry, grab some of that.

Golden Piloswine · Oct 1st, 2012, 8:59:43 PM

Is anyone aware of another open Nats event this year?

Smith · Oct 1st, 2012, 9:01:58 PM

I would consider it more than likely, given that the prize for 1st and 2nd at regionals is a bye and none of the top 4 get nats invites.

ThePichu · Oct 2nd, 2012, 6:23:29 AM

Is using a Pokemon that have a different OT and ID that you legal in VGC tournaments?
I always capture my Pokemon in another game and transfer it to my real one mainly because of the the boosted EXP.

Fantom0 · Oct 2nd, 2012, 7:50:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat ThePichu

Is using a Pokemon that have a different OT and ID that you legal in VGC tournaments?
I always capture my Pokemon in another game and transfer it to my real one mainly because of the the boosted EXP.

Any pokemon's legal in VGC as long as it adheres to the rules. Traded pokemon are fine (I hope!)

Sprocket · Oct 2nd, 2012, 10:23:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat ThePichu

Is using a Pokemon that have a different OT and ID that you legal in VGC tournaments?
I always capture my Pokemon in another game and transfer it to my real one mainly because of the the boosted EXP.

Traded Pokemon are legal as long as the Pokemon itself is legal for the tournament. This includes a U.S. cart consisting of nothing but Japanese Pokemon.

Wiretap · Oct 2nd, 2012, 7:11:15 PM

So, I ran a timid scarf chandelure on pretty much every one of my teams in VGC'12. However, it didn't quite hit hard enough for it to warrant use on multiple occasions and it sat on my team as a niche revenge killer and overall check to sun teams. I was wondering if switching it to a modest nature would be viable. It's basically a trade-off between ~20 SpAtk and outspeeding Scarfed Metagross & Politoed (Aerodactyl anyone?).

**TheMantyke** · Oct 2nd, 2012, 7:16:15 PM

I would highly recommend switching to a +SpAtk nature. Unlike in OU where outrunning other scarfed Pokemon is key to a lot of other scarfer's success, Scarf is much less common due in part to the locking nature of the item being more inhibiting when switching isn't nearly as common and item clause. Switching to a modest nature sounds like a fine choice as the bonus speed isn't the best.

Blaze123 · Oct 2nd, 2012, 8:20:58 PM

What is a good counter in rain teams? I have tried many of my competitive pokemon but they can't stop rain teams.

**TheMantyke** · Oct 2nd, 2012, 8:36:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Blaze123

What is a good counter in rain teams? I have tried many of my competitive pokemon but they can't stop rain teams.

Generally versus Rain teams I like to carry at least two rain resistant Pokemon that can hit Rain for STAB neutral or super-effective damage. Good anti rain Pokemon I've used in the past include Rotom-W, Latios, Tyranitar, Abomasnow, Gastrodon, Ludicolo, Virizion, and especially Ferrothorn.

**voodoo pimp** · Oct 2nd, 2012, 8:38:29 PM

I'm using a rain team myself, and the two things that give me the most trouble, other than other rain teams, are Ferrothorn and Rotom-W (and Lati@s to a lesser extent if my Scizor goes down). You can't just count on one Pokémon to counter an entire team, though, especially rain with their boosted attacks, so you need to make sure the rest of your team still stands a chance if your check goes down. For instance, make sure you don't have too many Water weaknesses.

**R Inanimate** · Oct 2nd, 2012, 9:29:51 PM

If they are heavily dependant on using rain, Pokemon like Cresselia and Thundurus can be real problems for them, due to their ability to easily throw around Thunder Waves to stop Swift Swim. Cresselia can also perform Trick Room, removing the speed advantage of Swift Swim.

Manual Weather changers, in the form of Cresselia (once again), Sableye, and Whimsicott that use Sunny Day can also throw a wrench in things.

Otherwise, the aforementioned Pokemon in the posts before me are all pretty effective at dealing with the rain, though many of them are quite heavily Bug weak.

Oh right, Togekiss and Amoonguss are two other Pokemon can give rain teams some issues.

Sprocket · Oct 2nd, 2012, 10:08:19 PM

I rolled a Zapdos with HP Grass specifically to stop Gastrodon. Tornadus and Dragonite with STAB Hurricane are also options but must beware Ice attacks. Really your best counter is Abomasnow Imo.

Sep 30th, 2012, 10:19:32 PM	#352
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Oct 2nd, 2012, 7:16:15 PM	#370
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Oct 2nd, 2012, 8:38:29 PM	#373
voodoo pimp Apply directly to the forehead Moderator Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 2,965	I'm using a rain team myself, and the two things that give me the most trouble, other than other rain teams, are Ferrothorn and Rotom-W (and Lati@s to a lesser extent if my Scizor goes down). You can't just count on one Pokémon to counter an entire team, though, especially rain with their boosted attacks, so you need to make sure the rest of your team still stands a chance if your check goes down. For instance, make sure you don't have too many Water weaknesses. __________________ Check out Smogon's new Doubles metagame! White FC: 4126-4421-4056 Black 2 FC: 3311-0920-4475 My Pokécheck Pokémon RNG is kind of like firing a gun. Why shoot blindly in every direction until you're lucky enough to hit the target when you can just take the time to aim properly and hit it with one shot?

Sep 30th, 2012, 11:20:25 PM	#354
Wiretap Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 29 Florida, United States	I know the question as to whether or not pokemon from bw2 can be used in the October regionals has been answered, but I have a slightly more grey-area one. Can unova pokemon with dream world abilities be used? It is possible to receive a female dw unova pokemon from bw2 and breed it in a bw1 game, thus providing a completely legitimate bw1 dw unova pokemon.

Oct 2nd, 2012, 6:23:29 AM	#366
ThePichu Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 2 Melbourne	Is using a Pokemon that have a different OT and ID that you legal in VGC tournaments? I always capture my Pokemon in another game and transfer it to my real one mainly because of the the boosted EXP.

Oct 2nd, 2012, 7:11:15 PM	#369
Wiretap Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 29 Florida, United States	So, I ran a timid scarf chandelure on pretty much every one of my teams in VGC'12. However, it didn't quite hit hard enough for it to warrant use on multiple occasions and it sat on my team as a niche revenge killer and overall check to sun teams. I was wondering if switching it to a modest nature would be viable. It's basically a trade-off between ~20 SpAtk and outspeeding Scarfed Metagross & Politoed (Aerodactyl anyone?).

Oct 2nd, 2012, 8:20:58 PM	#371
Blaze123 Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 33	What is a good counter in rain teams? I have tried many of my competitive pokemon but they can't stop rain teams.

Oct 2nd, 2012, 9:29:51 PM	#374
R Inanimate Serenely Graciously Flinching Moderator Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 683 Vancover, Ability Region	If they are heavily dependant on using rain, Pokemon like Cresselia and Thundurus can be real problems for them, due to their ability to easily throw around Thunder Waves to stop Swift Swim. Cresselia can also perform Trick Room, removing the speed advantage of Swift Swim. Manual Weather changers, in the form of Cresselia (once again), Sableye, and Whimsicott that use Sunny Day can also throw a wrench in things. Otherwise, the aforementioned Pokemon in the posts before me are all pretty effective at dealing with the rain, though many of them are quite heavily Bug weak. Oh right, Togekiss and Amoonguss are two other Pokemon can give rain teams some issues. __________________ Just another rainy day on the train... VGCS Jaunary International, 165W-30L-27D/C, 1873, 13th Place VGC 2013 Winter Regional, Salem OR, 1st Place

Oct 2nd, 2012, 10:08:19 PM	#375
Sprocket Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,487 Phoenix, AZ	I rolled a Zapdos with HP Grass specifically to stop Gastrodon. Tornadus and Dragonite with STAB Hurricane are also options but must beware Ice attacks. Really your best counter is Abomasnow Imo. __________________ Black FC: 2537-3042-2350 VGC2012 Analysis: Slowbro (Uploaded)