OU CCAT- 3rd Edition VOTING DISCUSSION SEE #157 - Page 5

Temp V1 · Oct 5th, 2012, 12:20:35 AM

1. Lavos' Sun Stall
2. Temp V1's Phazing
3. ganj4lF's Weatherless Balance

DrunkDemon · Oct 5th, 2012, 12:23:17 AM

1 Bubbly's Quick Stall
2 Alexwolf's sand balanced
3 DrunkDemon's trapper - just cause I'm a jerk

Ithilanor · Oct 5th, 2012, 12:40:48 AM

1. Thismysteriousguy's Offensive Gravity
2. Bubbly's Quick Stall
3. Absolete's TR

Superpowerdude · Oct 5th, 2012, 12:54:35 AM

1.Superpowerdude's hail stall
2.Lavos Spawn's sun stall
3.Bubbly's Quick Stall

Lavos Spawn · Oct 5th, 2012, 12:57:32 AM

please god not quick stall, anything but quick stall

I'm telling you guys it simply does not work...we haven't even been presented with a shell for it and you're already voting it up? (no offense to bubbly just not a big fan of blind faith here)

oh well it's a democratic process, do as you must

~~bubbly~~ · Oct 5th, 2012, 1:05:40 AM

I actually think we have at least a "shell". We have example teams which have been successful, we have a rough template I posted a couple of pages back. It might require more discussion than other options before voting but it really shouldn't be a problem. I've already actually seen quite a few posts in this thread which are looking indepth at the strategy and how we can make it work, which is imo exactly what we want to get out of this project.

Votes:
1. My quickstall (lol)
2. Tempv1's phazing stall
3. Fuzzy's balanced / stall

Magma · Oct 5th, 2012, 1:06:15 AM

1. Fuzzy's balanced/semi stall

Elaborating on my vote since my dumbass waited until the last minute and never made a nomination...

alkinesthetase · Oct 5th, 2012, 1:46:27 AM

1 Lavos Spawn's sun stall
2 Bubbly's Quick Stall
3 Fuzzy's balanced/semi stall

yes, i voted all stall

***Birkal**** · Oct 5th, 2012, 1:52:51 AM

1. Ganj4lf's Weatherless offense
2. Tempv1's phazing
3. Lavos Spawn's sun stall

gengarsnemisis · Oct 5th, 2012, 2:13:42 AM

1.Katakiri's raind dance offense
2.Thismysteriousguy's offensive gravity
3.Husky's hyper offense

ganj4lF · Oct 5th, 2012, 3:34:21 AM

Electrolyte, you did a little mistake since I nominated weatherless balance and not offense. Anyway:

1: ganj4lF's weatherless balance
2: Fuzzy's balanced/semi stall
3: Thismysteriousguy's offensive gravity

**ginganinja** · Oct 5th, 2012, 3:42:50 AM

1.Lavos Spawn's sun stall
2.Jimbon's hail offense
3.Thismysteriousguy's offensive gravity

ThisMysteriousGuy · Oct 5th, 2012, 4:13:22 AM

1. Husky's Hyper Offense
2. My Offensive Gravity (No wai)
3. Katakiri's Rain Dance Offense

Bryce · Oct 5th, 2012, 4:46:05 AM

1.Husky's hyper offense
2.Jimbon's hail offense
3.Lavos Spawn's sun stall

ClubbingSealCub · Oct 5th, 2012, 5:04:03 AM

1 my dual weather
2 slim man's sand offense
3 bubbly's quick stall

Anikrahman1995 · Oct 5th, 2012, 7:12:58 AM

1. Jimbon's hail offense
2. Bubbly's Quick Stall
3. Superpowerdude's hail stall

SpecsX · Oct 5th, 2012, 7:52:33 AM

1. ThisMysteriousGuy's Offensive Gravity
2. Superpowerdude's Hail Stall
3. Absolete's Trick Room

Man I love Gravity

FaceFaceFace · Oct 5th, 2012, 7:56:53 AM

1. Bubbly's Quick Stall.
2. Jimbon's Hail Offense.
3. Lavos Spawn's sun stall.

fuzzy · Oct 5th, 2012, 9:03:48 AM

1. Fuzzy's Balance/Semi Stall

2. Bubbly's Quick Stall
3. Jimbon's Hail Offense

I've played a lot with Jabbas Semi Stall during the ages of DPP and it is hands down THE most comfortable team i've ever played with. Would be nice to see if a style like this still works nowadays, i guess (i'm pretty sure it does as Snunch showed with his ST8 team Sloop John B)!

SubCharge Rotom was so suprising and good back than with the right support. Magma already pointed out some nice sets for todays metagame! Lets try to make a flexible team with a creative Stallbreaker :)

edit: Inspiration by Snunch himself: "This team can either be a very stall-oriented team, wearing down my opponent with toxic spikes and jelli / forry / tran, or it can play like heavy offense, sacrificing my walls to set up hazards or get in a burn then letting my sweepers go to town. Sometimes BW demands that you play fast-and-loose with your walls and this team makes that easy."

**Arcticblast** · Oct 5th, 2012, 9:26:48 AM

1. Bubbly's Quick Stall
2. Lavos Spawn's Sun Stall
3. ThisMysteriousGuy's Offensive Gravity

Joeyboy · Oct 5th, 2012, 10:42:18 AM

Fuzzy's balanced/semi stall
Husky's hyper offense
Lavos' Sun Stall

Jimbon · Oct 5th, 2012, 10:45:52 AM

1) lavos sun stall
2) clubbingsealclub dual weather
3) jimbon hail offense

exotic · Oct 5th, 2012, 10:48:56 AM

1. Fuzzy's balanced/semi stall
2. ThisMysteriousGuy's Offensive Gravity
3. bubbly's quick stall

Peache · Oct 5th, 2012, 11:14:47 AM

1.Lavos Spawn's sun stall
2.Thismysteriousguy's offensive gravity
3.Superpowerdude's hail stall

The Silent Storm · Oct 5th, 2012, 11:34:26 AM

Hm
1: Thereptile's spikestack offense
2: Fuzzy's balanced/semi stall
3: Superpowerdude's hail stall

Oct 5th, 2012, 12:20:35 AM	#101
Temp V1 Movin' at the speed of life and I can't slow down Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 114 Australia	1. Lavos' Sun Stall 2. Temp V1's Phazing 3. ganj4lF's Weatherless Balance Last edited by Temp V1; Oct 5th, 2012 at 2:55:38 AM.

Oct 5th, 2012, 12:23:17 AM	#102
DrunkDemon Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 204 A Gansta's Paradise	1 Bubbly's Quick Stall 2 Alexwolf's sand balanced 3 DrunkDemon's trapper - just cause I'm a jerk __________________ Miep: The season finale is thirty minutes of Andrea's feet BobbyVaporeon: is it sexy Miep: No Miep: it's veiny Miep: and with crusty nails

Oct 5th, 2012, 12:40:48 AM	#103
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Oct 5th, 2012, 12:54:35 AM	#104
Superpowerdude #Noivern Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 946 Australia Mentor	1.Superpowerdude's hail stall 2.Lavos Spawn's sun stall 3.Bubbly's Quick Stall __________________ #ratemyteam \| Smog Work\| Rater Of the Week \| RMT \| Dogbirds Join #dogbirds on irc!!! Last edited by Superpowerdude; Oct 5th, 2012 at 1:03:38 AM. Reason: Lavos Spawn<3

Oct 5th, 2012, 12:57:32 AM	#105
Lavos Spawn Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 2,323 wild west Mentor	please god not quick stall, anything but quick stall I'm telling you guys it simply does not work...we haven't even been presented with a shell for it and you're already voting it up? (no offense to bubbly just not a big fan of blind faith here) oh well it's a democratic process, do as you must __________________

Oct 5th, 2012, 1:05:40 AM	#106
~~bubbly~~ Banned deucer. Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 884 Australia	I actually think we have at least a "shell". We have example teams which have been successful, we have a rough template I posted a couple of pages back. It might require more discussion than other options before voting but it really shouldn't be a problem. I've already actually seen quite a few posts in this thread which are looking indepth at the strategy and how we can make it work, which is imo exactly what we want to get out of this project. Votes: 1. My quickstall (lol) 2. Tempv1's phazing stall 3. Fuzzy's balanced / stall

Oct 5th, 2012, 1:06:15 AM	#107
Magma Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 33	1. Fuzzy's balanced/semi stall Elaborating on my vote since my dumbass waited until the last minute and never made a nomination... My vote is for a balanced or semi-stall team (of any weather/field-effect) built around a creative/under-used stall-breaker. Lavos' Rain team is a good example of this - it's a well-built balanced team with a spinner, solid defensive core, and offensive plan that introduced a new stall-breaker to scene, Work Up Vaporeon. I personally feel we should stay away from hyper-offensive teams, because they are incredibly easy to build due to all of the powerful threats and moves this gen. Coming up with a complete balanced/semi-stall will help educate team-builders on all aspects of the meta-game (like the entry hazard war, weather war, wall-breaking, and tanking), not just setting up rocks/screens and attacking like HO teams. Here are some examples of stall-breakers that we as a community can potentially build a team around: Rain New Mixed Salamence (with Roost + Hydro Pump > Brick Break + Fire Blast) Sun Sub Charge Cresselia Quiver Dance Lilligant (with Sunny Day + Leaf Guard) Sand Alexwolf's Taunt Aerodactyl Hail Bubbly's Sub Disable Froslass Gravity LO Sheer Force Landorus

Oct 5th, 2012, 1:46:27 AM	#108
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Oct 5th, 2012, 1:52:51 AM	#109
*Birkal We have the technology. Super Moderator** Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 3,070 The Mentor	1. Ganj4lf's Weatherless offense 2. Tempv1's phazing 3. Lavos Spawn's sun stall __________________

Oct 5th, 2012, 2:13:42 AM	#110
gengarsnemisis Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 127	1.Katakiri's raind dance offense 2.Thismysteriousguy's offensive gravity 3.Husky's hyper offense

Oct 5th, 2012, 3:34:21 AM	#111
ganj4lF Nobody is safe from the power of science! Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 712 Italy	Electrolyte, you did a little mistake since I nominated weatherless balance and not offense. Anyway: 1: ganj4lF's weatherless balance 2: Fuzzy's balanced/semi stall 3: Thismysteriousguy's offensive gravity __________________ Counter that Pokemon project: Mk III & Warstory \| Mk IV RMTs: The HOutsiders (also the other ones if anyone likes lurking my old posts) Take a look at this before starting an argument Not accepting rating requests anymore. Sorry!

Oct 5th, 2012, 3:42:50 AM	#112
ginganinja Delena 4ever Moderator Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 3,151 In Love	1.Lavos Spawn's sun stall 2.Jimbon's hail offense 3.Thismysteriousguy's offensive gravity __________________

Oct 5th, 2012, 4:13:22 AM	#113
ThisMysteriousGuy Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 273 np: No Sleep Until Pass	1. Husky's Hyper Offense 2. My Offensive Gravity (No wai) 3. Katakiri's Rain Dance Offense

Oct 5th, 2012, 4:46:05 AM	#114
Bryce Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 342 South Asia	1.Husky's hyper offense 2.Jimbon's hail offense 3.Lavos Spawn's sun stall __________________

Oct 5th, 2012, 5:04:03 AM	#115
ClubbingSealCub Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 388 Spheal @ Thick Club	1 my dual weather 2 slim man's sand offense 3 bubbly's quick stall __________________ RMT: Dune Walkers - Featuring Sandslash Tobes: Infernape is still #22 in standard OU. You all sicken me.

Oct 5th, 2012, 7:12:58 AM	#116
Anikrahman1995 Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 362 In my bedroom	1. Jimbon's hail offense 2. Bubbly's Quick Stall 3. Superpowerdude's hail stall

Oct 5th, 2012, 7:52:33 AM	#117
SpecsX Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 372 Starfing with Harvest	1. ThisMysteriousGuy's Offensive Gravity 2. Superpowerdude's Hail Stall 3. Absolete's Trick Room Man I love Gravity __________________ <awaychuck> alk your mom is so stupid that she thought the chain rule was used by antebellum mathematicians in the South On Patrat: <Dracoyoshi8> i like to imagine its cheeks are full of semen

Oct 5th, 2012, 7:56:53 AM	#118
FaceFaceFace Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 177 New Zealand	1. Bubbly's Quick Stall. 2. Jimbon's Hail Offense. 3. Lavos Spawn's sun stall.

Oct 5th, 2012, 9:03:48 AM	#119
fuzzy Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 173	1. Fuzzy's Balance/Semi Stall 2. Bubbly's Quick Stall 3. Jimbon's Hail Offense I've played a lot with Jabbas Semi Stall during the ages of DPP and it is hands down THE most comfortable team i've ever played with. Would be nice to see if a style like this still works nowadays, i guess (i'm pretty sure it does as Snunch showed with his ST8 team Sloop John B)! SubCharge Rotom was so suprising and good back than with the right support. Magma already pointed out some nice sets for todays metagame! Lets try to make a flexible team with a creative Stallbreaker :) edit: Inspiration by Snunch himself: "This team can either be a very stall-oriented team, wearing down my opponent with toxic spikes and jelli / forry / tran, or it can play like heavy offense, sacrificing my walls to set up hazards or get in a burn then letting my sweepers go to town. Sometimes BW demands that you play fast-and-loose with your walls and this team makes that easy." __________________ Last edited by fuzzy; Oct 5th, 2012 at 11:06:48 AM.

Oct 5th, 2012, 9:26:48 AM	#120
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Oct 5th, 2012, 10:42:18 AM	#121
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Oct 5th, 2012, 10:45:52 AM	#122
Jimbon already over Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 488	1) lavos sun stall 2) clubbingsealclub dual weather 3) jimbon hail offense

Oct 5th, 2012, 10:48:56 AM	#123
exotic Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 94	1. Fuzzy's balanced/semi stall 2. ThisMysteriousGuy's Offensive Gravity 3. bubbly's quick stall

Oct 5th, 2012, 11:14:47 AM	#124
Peache Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 5	1.Lavos Spawn's sun stall 2.Thismysteriousguy's offensive gravity 3.Superpowerdude's hail stall

Oct 5th, 2012, 11:34:26 AM	#125
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