The Dark Horse Project IV - Page 8

Jobriq · Oct 6th, 2012, 1:53:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Birkal

Jobriq, what convinced you to use Mandibuzz on a Hail team? You didn't release your entire team (which is cool) but I'm just curious as to what went on in your mind in the teammate selecting phase there. I am by no means saying it's a bad choice! I am just genuinely curious as to why you picked that Pokemon specifically.

I discovered Mandibuzz in a Randbat against TropiOUs on PS, in which she was practically invincible, but eventually brought down through parahax and regice. I was surprised that a pokemon with incredible 110/105/95 defenses was struggling in RU. I remembered seeing her on an OU sand team, but I found it difficult to fit her on a sand team of my own, since the larger variety of sand-immune pokemon makes it harder to justify a team slot for her. Gliscor, for example, can be played similarly to a physically defensive Mandibuzz. I turned to Hail teams where Mandibuzz fits more easily as only ice types and those with certain abilities are immune. I had used his team before, so I used Delko's Christmas RMT: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3458509 as a starting point and his Heatran set made it on my team unchanged.

My whole team here:(I've been wanting to make an RMT but I never got around to it)

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It's worth mentioning this team was made early BW2, before Genesect and Techniloom were released. Also, you'll notice the team is seriously weak to terrakion, which is why I'm not gonna try to ladder any higher. Tspikes was how I brought down Terrakion usually, so any team with Terrakion and Tentacruel or Starmie usually wrecked me.
Finally, since it seems no one else is using him...
Pokemon Showdown! Username: Spores
Hall of Fame Standing: Silver?
Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Smeargle
Current Ladder Standing: None

Not sure if I should go for baton pass or spike stacking...

SlimMan · Oct 6th, 2012, 3:04:46 PM

Forgot to ladder since... basically my last post in here.
I'll try to remember tonight.

Lavos Spawn · Oct 6th, 2012, 4:20:45 PM

thanks for fixing my Suicune gif link, Pocket :o

alkinesthetase · Oct 6th, 2012, 5:01:39 PM

dw lavos it's like the sixth of october lol, shit's gonna go down if SIU remembers to keep laddering
EDIT: well, weak for the moment lol ;)

Anyway let's all give Pocket a hand for that crazy hof update, that was huge and this thread is getting long >_> I've also updated my post accordingly, so once Pocket clears the next few hofs that we've got in here (jobriq's silver, electrolyte's, and that correction for molk... i think that's all, as of this post), we should all be in working order. Keep it up, OU!

Lavos Spawn · Oct 6th, 2012, 5:03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat alkinesthetase

dw lavos it's like the sixth of october lol, shit's gonna go down if SIU remembers to keep laddering

Anyway let's all give Pocket a hand for that crazy hof update, that was huge and this thread is getting long >_> I've also updated my post accordingly, so once Pocket clears the next few hofs that we've got in here (jobriq's silver, electrolyte's, and that correction for molk... i think that's all, as of this post), we should all be in working order. Keep it up, OU!

shake is one of the weak challengers i was mentioning...

and yeah big hand to pocket for being so on top of all this hof stuff, i've bugged him so much about updating my rank every other battle and he's not even complained about my constant bitching!

also another big hand to alkinesthetase for being a good guy in general

Lady Alex · Oct 6th, 2012, 9:57:57 PM

Updated my post with top 100 screenshot for arcanine.

@eranu- Your deoxys-D is safe for now, but watch out! (If I understand the new rule correctly, anyway DX)

alkinesthetase · Oct 6th, 2012, 10:13:29 PM

yep, as pocket said: if player X holds the current hall of fame slot for a certain mon, and you 1) beat player X's ladder rating and 2) either match or exceed their leaderboard rank with said mon, then you can take that hall of fame position from them. lots of mons are on the table 8D

oh and yeah if you make or improve hall of fame standing, it's good to leave a new post in addition to updating the old one, so we'll notice right away - as much as that will clutter the thread, it'll also make bookkeeping a little easier when we wander in after an hour or two to see who's gotten where.

**Pocket** · Oct 6th, 2012, 10:18:01 PM

HoF is updated again! The silver rank is filling quickly, thanks to Joybriq and Electrolyte's success in MandiHail and Mixed Cobalion, respectively! Molk has also ascended to the ranks of Platinum with his Stoutland team xD

Amazing Discussion Responses, Electrolyte - it was an enjoyable read! I appreciate that you have identified the purpose of this project so well - to discover the many plethora of useful mons that happen to be forgotten for more conventional ones. Finding your Dark Horse Pokemon the niche that it can perform best is another excellent advice.

I realized that I have wrongly placed SubakSupreme in Bronze, so I have placed him in Silver where he belongs. Really interesting team, too - Normal Gem Explosion Ferrothorn, Double Dose of STAB Hurricanes - pure IDGAF heavy offense >:D ScarfToed may put you at a vulnerable spot, though - I'd prefer a support physically defensive Toed with Ice Beam and either Encore or Perish Song. Also Scarf Terrakion and to a lesser extent Scarf Keldeo seems like a rather big threat to this team, so I would try minimizing this weakness by, again, going bulky with Politoed and possibly replacing Dragonite for Pokemon like Toxicroak or Breloom.

Ithilanor · Oct 6th, 2012, 10:22:27 PM

Congrats Electrolyte! I've been using that same Cobalion set, actually, except with Stone Edge over Taunt. (originally saw it in the Creative movesets thread) I've used it on a sort of VoltTurn team, forming a core with Genesect and Landorus-T. I've got Lead Terrakion (who has Taunt, hence why I don't have Taunt on Cobalion; LO Latios for my main special threat; and Mamoswine.

Also, I think the thread title needs to be updated; post 170 isn't anything significant.

Lady Alex · Oct 7th, 2012, 1:25:18 AM

Updated my post with my Arcanine set and team. I also peaked higher than I did earlier (Couldn't quite take Deoxys-D away from Eranu. Tied with glicko2 but only ranked 68. Went on a heavy tilt afterward).

**Molk** · Oct 7th, 2012, 1:44:49 AM

round 3 get

heres my peak:

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here is my ladder record: ou 2106 94 2217 ± 79 (provisional) 29 3 0

and here are my detailed descriptions =).

Scrafty @ Leftovers
Trait: Shed Skin
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Drain Punch / Hi Jump Kick
- Crunch
- Ice Punch

Ever since its introduction in generation 5, Scrafty has been one of my favorite Pokemon, idk why, i just like it, lol. I know Scrafty recently dropped to UU for being "bad" in OU, but when i used him, he did fine, im not sure whats supposed to be wrong with him tbh. Out of the 29 wins i had on my alt, just about half of them were scrafty sweeping my opponents team once their check/counter was weakened, lol. One of the main things i like about DD scrafty is that it can take quite a few neutral hits even uninvested, 65/115/115 is more than enough to take your fair share of hits. Thanks to these defenses, Scrafty doesnt care about priority too much either, in fact, the only priority user who can actually OHKO a full health scrafty is LO breloom, and even then it needs a high damage roll to do so. Thanks to Scrafty's impressive bulk, its rather easy to get up a DD, in fact, i can usually get off two without much trouble if i play well. Drain Punch is awesome on Scrafty, thanks to Scrafty's low hp stat, a boosted Drain Punch can give it a lot of health, often putting it out of the KO range of my opponents revenge killer! Hi Jump Kick is also an option if you want/need more power on your team, but whenever i use it, i always miss the sweet, sweet recovery Drain Punch provides. Crunch and Ice Punch hit what drain punch cant, mainly Ghosts, Psychics, and Fliers(i cannot tell you how many matches i have won by simply setting rocks and hitting a tornadus-T on the switch with Ice Punch, lol). Ice Punch also comes in handy against Dragon-types like dnite and haxorus, and it also stops gliscor from walling me =). I chose lefties shed skin mainly for the longetivity it provided in tandem with Drain Punch, as well as to make Scrafty a pretty good status absorber, but i also like a Lum Moxie set on more offensive teams, that way Scrafty needs to set up less to sweep, and also gets a free attack boost from knocking out things like tornadus-T and terrakion on the switch. Ill post that set in hide tags as well =). Overall, i really liked scrafty during my ladder run, despite what other people say about it being a piece of shit/unviable.

Lum Moxie

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Amoonguss @ Leftovers
Trait: Regenerator
EVs: 248 HP / 28 SAtk / 232 SDef
Calm Nature
- Spore
- Giga Drain
- Sludge Bomb
- Hidden Power [Fire]

I actually used Amoonguss in my Weavile run, but it had already been taken by another user, then the new rule set in and i asked pocket if i could add amoonguss to my post, he mentioned that i should probably use it on a different alt, so i added it to my Scrafty team. Amoonguss was the perfect fit for my team atm, i had slowbro before i even added amoonguss, so of course i had to take advantage of that regenerator core. Amoonguss also helped out against Breloom, Water types, Celebi lacking Psychic, certain pokemon used on sun, most electric types, etc. Amoonguss also served as a last minute "oh shit" button against quite a few pokemon thanks to its bulk and access to spore. Amoonguss doesnt really hit that hard, but Spore more than makes up for the lack of firepower. With Spore, Amoonguss basically gets a free KO every match bar sleep talk and things like sap sipper/first turn wakes. I usually dont spore with amoonguss until i predict something threatening like Tornadus-T coming in to take a giga drain or something, crippling the biggest threat to my team often leads to me getting free wins out of battles that would have been very difficult otherwise. I chose hidden power fire in the last slot to lure in annoying things like Ferrothorn, Forretress, Scizor, and Genesect and cripple them. The main and pretty much only problem i had with amoonguss is that it was rather easy to switch into after sleep clause activated, and could often end up being dead weight for the rest of the match, but in the end, i really liked Amoonguss, he was the perfect fit for my team, and he played a crucial role in pulling a win with scrafty thanks to spore's free turns =).

EDIT: something funny i noted, both of my other dark horse alts are in that screenshot as well, lol.

Im going to ladder a bit more with this alt and see how it goes :).

Lady Alex · Oct 7th, 2012, 1:54:06 AM

Stop making me have to do more ladder runs :(

**Pocket** · Oct 7th, 2012, 2:19:36 AM

somebody kick Lavos out of GM, thanks >:0

TropiOUs · Oct 7th, 2012, 2:23:34 AM

set used this time:

Froslass (F) @ Focus Sash
Trait: Cursed Body
EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
Timid Nature
- Spikes
- Ice Beam
- Destiny Bond
- Taunt

Short version: Set hazards, prevent other mons from getting them, and if you get the chance, get a free kill without really trying. I picked Cursed Body because I didn't want hail and I felt it would be the superior choice to potentially stop a mon from attacking (think Terrakion) and give me a second or third layer of spikes.

I actually changed this cutie set a bit while laddering with it. Originally I had Shadow Ball because it can 3hko Deoxys-D, but eventually decided to scrap it for Ice Beam because Taunt would prevent Deo-D from doing its job(unless random Magic Coat) , and would make eliminating it with other pokemon easier later in the game. I also decided to use Ice beam because emergency check to Breloom is cool.

Jobriq · Oct 7th, 2012, 2:25:51 AM

Lol molk has 3 alts in the top 30... at this rate he'll make HoF with every pokemon in UU... also I'm probably gonna try something else since I can't seem to make smeargle work in OU ;_; baton pass is fun until you get crit.
Edit:Trop's froslass (previous post) totally trolled my crappy baton pass team

Edit2:
I've decided to use the mascot of the DHP (or its evolved form) cuz why not?
Pokemon Showdown! Username: ThreeStrika
Hall of Fame Standing: Silver?
Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Zebstrika
Current Ladder Standing: None

DarkBlazeR · Oct 7th, 2012, 2:56:57 AM

Made it after getting a +18 win streak and subsequently crashing and burning in spectacular fashion, losing 9 in a low...

Conveniently for me I don't need to take a screenshot: confirming as Qomolangma in the screenshot in the previous post. Cheers, TropiOUs!

YES YOU DO

Qomolangma

Here's the set I used. Quite creative, don't you think?

Ditto transformed into Arceus!

Ditto @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Imposter
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Quirky Nature
IVs: 30 Atk / 30 Def
- Transform
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I literally threw Ditto onto a team at complete random and called it a day. I knew that doing so would normally doom your team to failure, though Ditto is one of the few Pokemon that any team can utilise, regardless of playstyle.

To describe Ditto's performance in one word - inconsistent. There were many games where Ditto did nothing useful at all, yet I also had matches where Ditto was an absolutely crucial team member. Ditto makes for an excellent win condition: it can turn the tables on a seemingly lost game in an instant, thanks to its amazing ability. Given the offensive nature of the metagame, a dedicated revenge killer isn't really a wasted slot in my opinion. It doesn't always pull its weight, but few things are more satisfying than sweeping a team with a Ditto (second only to sweeping with Spinda).

The fact that Ditto is so underused also helped its cause. I swear half the ladder doesn't even know about Ditto's new ability, as its presence in my team preview didn't stop people trying to set up their DDMences and such. Sure it faces massive competition for a team slot, but it's a failsafe like no other that deserves more love. I hope my success proves that Ditto isn't just a gimmick in OU.

alkinesthetase · Oct 7th, 2012, 3:03:52 AM

phew was playing games and the time was flying so i nearly forgot to do a late-night update! also, i'm so used to seeing zebraiken while lurking in NU that i thought the mon itself was called zebraiken (rather than zebstrika)... >_> too much smogon for me

and wow molk AND trop at 3 alts each, this is gonna be absolutely crazy. if you guys actually fill up the hall of fame this month we are gonna be clamping down on reqs SOOO much next month i swear. keep it up OU!

also, first blood to molk, who successfully stole amoonguss from clubbingsealcub with his scrafty/amoonguss alt! sealcub is still in hof thanks to sandslash, but let's get this shit started guys, it's a dark horse free for all!

DarkBlazeR · Oct 7th, 2012, 3:35:03 AM

Going for it again!

Pokemon Showdown! Username: Aoraki
Hall of Fame Standing: Silver
Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Victini, Cresselia
Current Ladder Standing on Pokemon Showdown!: 1000

**Pocket** · Oct 7th, 2012, 3:38:20 AM

Speaking of first blood, Lady Alex is also close to kicking Eranu's Deoxys-D out of HoF, since their rating is tied atm! It's worth it, too, because just a little push and Arcanine would reach Silver :d

I'd like to know more about your Arcanine, Lady Alex! Did it meet your expectations? How well did it contribute to your HO team?

Congrats, DarkBlazeR, in becoming the highest ranked HoFer in Silver Class with Ditto! I urge you to keep on playing despite the recent loss streak to get yourself into Gold :d

Lady Alex · Oct 7th, 2012, 8:16:37 AM

It wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. It did pretty well. It wasn't very frequently the all star of the team, but it wasn't a burden. It's pretty difficult to switch into. It's a shame I wasn't able to steal Deoxys-D, but I've tilted so hard that I'm going to move on to my next pokemon (which I'll be stealing xD)

Pokemon Showdown! Username: Triangles
Hall of Fame Standing: Platinum
Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Mew, ninjask, mr. mime
Current Ladder Standing: None

Finished

Proof

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Team

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It's a BP team. la. di. da.

scampy · Oct 7th, 2012, 10:05:22 AM

I've been having a lot of success with Rotom-H, so I'd like to give this a shot.

Pokemon Showdown! Username: Super Tofu Boy
Hall of Fame Standing: None
Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Rotom-H, Blastoise
Current Ladder Standing: 1000

**Molk** · Oct 7th, 2012, 11:07:43 AM

Pokemon Showdown! Username: The Killer Moth
Hall of Fame Standing: Platinum
Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Venomoth
Current Ladder Standing: none on this alt

not done with scrafty yet, but after i get gold on that, using this

discoboy · Oct 7th, 2012, 11:54:30 AM

Pokemon Showdown! Username: discoman
Hall of Fame Standing: None
Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Chansey
Current Ladder Standing: 1000

TropiOUs · Oct 7th, 2012, 12:01:12 PM

I wanted a challenge and molk told me to do this. This is a not a joke

Pokemon Showdown! Username: GOML PS
Hall of Fame Standing: Silver
Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: THE MIGHTY METANG
Current Ladder Standing: none on this alt

I disapprove - Pocket

FastFlygon · Oct 7th, 2012, 1:22:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat TropiOUs

Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: THE MIGHTY METANG

Better not be giving that boss an item!

Oct 6th, 2012, 3:04:46 PM	#177
SlimMan Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 1,475 Caroline du Nord	Forgot to ladder since... basically my last post in here. I'll try to remember tonight. __________________ Messidor

Oct 6th, 2012, 4:20:45 PM	#178
Lavos Spawn our state of zen Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 2,169 Mentor	thanks for fixing my Suicune gif link, Pocket :o Last edited by ginganinja; Oct 6th, 2012 at 6:21:32 PM.

Oct 6th, 2012, 5:01:39 PM	#179
alkinesthetase <MrE> SPIDERS /\/\;,,;/\/\ Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 696 <ala> canadabros is the strongest bros you can be Mentor	dw lavos it's like the sixth of october lol, shit's gonna go down if SIU remembers to keep laddering EDIT: well, weak for the moment lol ;) Anyway let's all give Pocket a hand for that crazy hof update, that was huge and this thread is getting long >_> I've also updated my post accordingly, so once Pocket clears the next few hofs that we've got in here (jobriq's silver, electrolyte's, and that correction for molk... i think that's all, as of this post), we should all be in working order. Keep it up, OU! __________________ <%yee> i will summon a spider to kill alkines my massive mafia roles list

Oct 6th, 2012, 9:57:57 PM	#181
Lady Alex So, I dashed all over the mansion, and I re-killed them; they were pretty alive when I found them Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 418 Stuck between a Stealth Rock and a hard place	Updated my post with top 100 screenshot for arcanine. @eranu- Your deoxys-D is safe for now, but watch out! (If I understand the new rule correctly, anyway DX) __________________

Oct 6th, 2012, 10:13:29 PM	#182
alkinesthetase <MrE> SPIDERS /\/\;,,;/\/\ Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 696 <ala> canadabros is the strongest bros you can be Mentor	yep, as pocket said: if player X holds the current hall of fame slot for a certain mon, and you 1) beat player X's ladder rating and 2) either match or exceed their leaderboard rank with said mon, then you can take that hall of fame position from them. lots of mons are on the table 8D oh and yeah if you make or improve hall of fame standing, it's good to leave a new post in addition to updating the old one, so we'll notice right away - as much as that will clutter the thread, it'll also make bookkeeping a little easier when we wander in after an hour or two to see who's gotten where. __________________ <%yee> i will summon a spider to kill alkines my massive mafia roles list

Oct 6th, 2012, 10:18:01 PM	#183
Pocket Bakuman ;< Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 7,176 Bergenfield	HoF is updated again! The silver rank is filling quickly, thanks to Joybriq and Electrolyte's success in MandiHail and Mixed Cobalion, respectively! Molk has also ascended to the ranks of Platinum with his Stoutland team xD Amazing Discussion Responses, Electrolyte - it was an enjoyable read! I appreciate that you have identified the purpose of this project so well - to discover the many plethora of useful mons that happen to be forgotten for more conventional ones. Finding your Dark Horse Pokemon the niche that it can perform best is another excellent advice. I realized that I have wrongly placed SubakSupreme in Bronze, so I have placed him in Silver where he belongs. Really interesting team, too - Normal Gem Explosion Ferrothorn, Double Dose of STAB Hurricanes - pure IDGAF heavy offense >:D ScarfToed may put you at a vulnerable spot, though - I'd prefer a support physically defensive Toed with Ice Beam and either Encore or Perish Song. Also Scarf Terrakion and to a lesser extent Scarf Keldeo seems like a rather big threat to this team, so I would try minimizing this weakness by, again, going bulky with Politoed and possibly replacing Dragonite for Pokemon like Toxicroak or Breloom. __________________ Dark Horse Project: Conquer the Ladder! \| Word of Wisdom for Trainers \| Smogon Doubles: Let's Make It Official!

Oct 6th, 2012, 10:22:27 PM	#184
Ithilanor Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 242	Congrats Electrolyte! I've been using that same Cobalion set, actually, except with Stone Edge over Taunt. (originally saw it in the Creative movesets thread) I've used it on a sort of VoltTurn team, forming a core with Genesect and Landorus-T. I've got Lead Terrakion (who has Taunt, hence why I don't have Taunt on Cobalion; LO Latios for my main special threat; and Mamoswine. Also, I think the thread title needs to be updated; post 170 isn't anything significant. __________________ An OU Warstory: Float Like a Rotom, Sting Like a Terrakion

Oct 7th, 2012, 1:25:18 AM	#185
Lady Alex So, I dashed all over the mansion, and I re-killed them; they were pretty alive when I found them Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 418 Stuck between a Stealth Rock and a hard place	Updated my post with my Arcanine set and team. I also peaked higher than I did earlier (Couldn't quite take Deoxys-D away from Eranu. Tied with glicko2 but only ranked 68. Went on a heavy tilt afterward). __________________

Oct 7th, 2012, 1:44:49 AM	#186
Molk Recipe for disaster Moderator Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,222 Long Island	round 3 get heres my peak: ... here is my ladder record: ou 2106 94 2217 ± 79 (provisional) 29 3 0 and here are my detailed descriptions =). Scrafty @ Leftovers Trait: Shed Skin EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spd Jolly Nature - Dragon Dance - Drain Punch / Hi Jump Kick - Crunch - Ice Punch Ever since its introduction in generation 5, Scrafty has been one of my favorite Pokemon, idk why, i just like it, lol. I know Scrafty recently dropped to UU for being "bad" in OU, but when i used him, he did fine, im not sure whats supposed to be wrong with him tbh. Out of the 29 wins i had on my alt, just about half of them were scrafty sweeping my opponents team once their check/counter was weakened, lol. One of the main things i like about DD scrafty is that it can take quite a few neutral hits even uninvested, 65/115/115 is more than enough to take your fair share of hits. Thanks to these defenses, Scrafty doesnt care about priority too much either, in fact, the only priority user who can actually OHKO a full health scrafty is LO breloom, and even then it needs a high damage roll to do so. Thanks to Scrafty's impressive bulk, its rather easy to get up a DD, in fact, i can usually get off two without much trouble if i play well. Drain Punch is awesome on Scrafty, thanks to Scrafty's low hp stat, a boosted Drain Punch can give it a lot of health, often putting it out of the KO range of my opponents revenge killer! Hi Jump Kick is also an option if you want/need more power on your team, but whenever i use it, i always miss the sweet, sweet recovery Drain Punch provides. Crunch and Ice Punch hit what drain punch cant, mainly Ghosts, Psychics, and Fliers(i cannot tell you how many matches i have won by simply setting rocks and hitting a tornadus-T on the switch with Ice Punch, lol). Ice Punch also comes in handy against Dragon-types like dnite and haxorus, and it also stops gliscor from walling me =). I chose lefties shed skin mainly for the longetivity it provided in tandem with Drain Punch, as well as to make Scrafty a pretty good status absorber, but i also like a Lum Moxie set on more offensive teams, that way Scrafty needs to set up less to sweep, and also gets a free attack boost from knocking out things like tornadus-T and terrakion on the switch. Ill post that set in hide tags as well =). Overall, i really liked scrafty during my ladder run, despite what other people say about it being a piece of shit/unviable. Lum Moxie ... Scrafty @ Lum Berry Trait: Moxie EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spd Jolly Nature - Dragon Dance - Drain Punch / Hi Jump Kick - Crunch - Ice Punch Amoonguss @ Leftovers Trait: Regenerator EVs: 248 HP / 28 SAtk / 232 SDef Calm Nature - Spore - Giga Drain - Sludge Bomb - Hidden Power [Fire] I actually used Amoonguss in my Weavile run, but it had already been taken by another user, then the new rule set in and i asked pocket if i could add amoonguss to my post, he mentioned that i should probably use it on a different alt, so i added it to my Scrafty team. Amoonguss was the perfect fit for my team atm, i had slowbro before i even added amoonguss, so of course i had to take advantage of that regenerator core. Amoonguss also helped out against Breloom, Water types, Celebi lacking Psychic, certain pokemon used on sun, most electric types, etc. Amoonguss also served as a last minute "oh shit" button against quite a few pokemon thanks to its bulk and access to spore. Amoonguss doesnt really hit that hard, but Spore more than makes up for the lack of firepower. With Spore, Amoonguss basically gets a free KO every match bar sleep talk and things like sap sipper/first turn wakes. I usually dont spore with amoonguss until i predict something threatening like Tornadus-T coming in to take a giga drain or something, crippling the biggest threat to my team often leads to me getting free wins out of battles that would have been very difficult otherwise. I chose hidden power fire in the last slot to lure in annoying things like Ferrothorn, Forretress, Scizor, and Genesect and cripple them. The main and pretty much only problem i had with amoonguss is that it was rather easy to switch into after sleep clause activated, and could often end up being dead weight for the rest of the match, but in the end, i really liked Amoonguss, he was the perfect fit for my team, and he played a crucial role in pulling a win with scrafty thanks to spore's free turns =). EDIT: something funny i noted, both of my other dark horse alts are in that screenshot as well, lol. Im going to ladder a bit more with this alt and see how it goes :). __________________ 16:46 <TLCNU> Esca literally is 2HKO'd by Stoutland Fire Fang 10:33 skylight molk put me in your sig Last edited by Molk; Oct 7th, 2012 at 10:31:15 AM.

Oct 7th, 2012, 1:54:06 AM	#187
Lady Alex So, I dashed all over the mansion, and I re-killed them; they were pretty alive when I found them Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 418 Stuck between a Stealth Rock and a hard place	Stop making me have to do more ladder runs :( __________________

Oct 7th, 2012, 2:19:36 AM	#188
Pocket Bakuman ;< Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 7,176 Bergenfield	somebody kick Lavos out of GM, thanks >:0 __________________ Dark Horse Project: Conquer the Ladder! \| Word of Wisdom for Trainers \| Smogon Doubles: Let's Make It Official!

Oct 7th, 2012, 2:23:34 AM	#189
TropiOUs Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 415 North Korea	set used this time: Froslass (F) @ Focus Sash Trait: Cursed Body EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd Timid Nature - Spikes - Ice Beam - Destiny Bond - Taunt Short version: Set hazards, prevent other mons from getting them, and if you get the chance, get a free kill without really trying. I picked Cursed Body because I didn't want hail and I felt it would be the superior choice to potentially stop a mon from attacking (think Terrakion) and give me a second or third layer of spikes. I actually changed this cutie set a bit while laddering with it. Originally I had Shadow Ball because it can 3hko Deoxys-D, but eventually decided to scrap it for Ice Beam because Taunt would prevent Deo-D from doing its job(unless random Magic Coat) , and would make eliminating it with other pokemon easier later in the game. I also decided to use Ice beam because emergency check to Breloom is cool. __________________ 16:46 <TLCNU> Esca literally is 2HKO'd by Stoutland Fire Fang Last edited by TropiOUs; Oct 7th, 2012 at 2:36:03 AM.

Oct 7th, 2012, 2:25:51 AM	#190
Jobriq Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 58 In a Pineapple Under the Sea	Lol molk has 3 alts in the top 30... at this rate he'll make HoF with every pokemon in UU... also I'm probably gonna try something else since I can't seem to make smeargle work in OU ;_; baton pass is fun until you get crit. Edit:Trop's froslass (previous post) totally trolled my crappy baton pass team Edit2: I've decided to use the mascot of the DHP (or its evolved form) cuz why not? Pokemon Showdown! Username: ThreeStrika Hall of Fame Standing: Silver? Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Zebstrika Current Ladder Standing: None __________________ (04:26:54) TryHardJobriq: why isn't kyurem-B faster than kyurem-W?(04:28:16) The Gr8 Mighty Doom: the chains on his legs are slowin him down %jobriq: :D <==I was driver for 5 seconds http://pastebin.com/RBk8rPHZ Bidoof<3 chaos: if im timestalled i go super saiyan Last edited by Jobriq; Oct 7th, 2012 at 2:34:42 AM. Reason: derededf

Oct 7th, 2012, 2:56:57 AM	#191
DarkBlazeR Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 353	Made it after getting a +18 win streak and subsequently crashing and burning in spectacular fashion, losing 9 in a low... Conveniently for me I don't need to take a screenshot: confirming as Qomolangma in the screenshot in the previous post. Cheers, TropiOUs! YES YOU DO Qomolangma Here's the set I used. Quite creative, don't you think? Ditto transformed into Arceus! Ditto @ Choice Scarf Trait: Imposter EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef Quirky Nature IVs: 30 Atk / 30 Def - Transform - - - I literally threw Ditto onto a team at complete random and called it a day. I knew that doing so would normally doom your team to failure, though Ditto is one of the few Pokemon that any team can utilise, regardless of playstyle. To describe Ditto's performance in one word - inconsistent. There were many games where Ditto did nothing useful at all, yet I also had matches where Ditto was an absolutely crucial team member. Ditto makes for an excellent win condition: it can turn the tables on a seemingly lost game in an instant, thanks to its amazing ability. Given the offensive nature of the metagame, a dedicated revenge killer isn't really a wasted slot in my opinion. It doesn't always pull its weight, but few things are more satisfying than sweeping a team with a Ditto (second only to sweeping with Spinda). The fact that Ditto is so underused also helped its cause. I swear half the ladder doesn't even know about Ditto's new ability, as its presence in my team preview didn't stop people trying to set up their DDMences and such. Sure it faces massive competition for a team slot, but it's a failsafe like no other that deserves more love. I hope my success proves that Ditto isn't just a gimmick in OU. Last edited by Pocket; Oct 7th, 2012 at 3:07:25 AM.

Oct 7th, 2012, 3:03:52 AM	#192
alkinesthetase <MrE> SPIDERS /\/\;,,;/\/\ Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 696 <ala> canadabros is the strongest bros you can be Mentor	phew was playing games and the time was flying so i nearly forgot to do a late-night update! also, i'm so used to seeing zebraiken while lurking in NU that i thought the mon itself was called zebraiken (rather than zebstrika)... >_> too much smogon for me and wow molk AND trop at 3 alts each, this is gonna be absolutely crazy. if you guys actually fill up the hall of fame this month we are gonna be clamping down on reqs SOOO much next month i swear. keep it up OU! also, first blood to molk, who successfully stole amoonguss from clubbingsealcub with his scrafty/amoonguss alt! sealcub is still in hof thanks to sandslash, but let's get this shit started guys, it's a dark horse free for all! __________________ <%yee> i will summon a spider to kill alkines my massive mafia roles list

Oct 7th, 2012, 3:35:03 AM	#193
DarkBlazeR Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 353	Going for it again! Pokemon Showdown! Username: Aoraki Hall of Fame Standing: Silver Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Victini, Cresselia Current Ladder Standing on Pokemon Showdown!: 1000 Last edited by DarkBlazeR; Oct 8th, 2012 at 11:25:59 AM. Reason: changed alt as i changed DH pokemon

Oct 7th, 2012, 3:38:20 AM	#194
Pocket Bakuman ;< Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 7,176 Bergenfield	Speaking of first blood, Lady Alex is also close to kicking Eranu's Deoxys-D out of HoF, since their rating is tied atm! It's worth it, too, because just a little push and Arcanine would reach Silver :d I'd like to know more about your Arcanine, Lady Alex! Did it meet your expectations? How well did it contribute to your HO team? Congrats, DarkBlazeR, in becoming the highest ranked HoFer in Silver Class with Ditto! I urge you to keep on playing despite the recent loss streak to get yourself into Gold :d __________________ Dark Horse Project: Conquer the Ladder! \| Word of Wisdom for Trainers \| Smogon Doubles: Let's Make It Official!

Oct 7th, 2012, 8:16:37 AM	#195
Lady Alex So, I dashed all over the mansion, and I re-killed them; they were pretty alive when I found them Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 418 Stuck between a Stealth Rock and a hard place	It wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. It did pretty well. It wasn't very frequently the all star of the team, but it wasn't a burden. It's pretty difficult to switch into. It's a shame I wasn't able to steal Deoxys-D, but I've tilted so hard that I'm going to move on to my next pokemon (which I'll be stealing xD) Pokemon Showdown! Username: Triangles Hall of Fame Standing: Platinum Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Mew, ninjask, mr. mime Current Ladder Standing: None Finished Proof ... Team ... Vaporeon (M) @ Leftovers Trait: Water Absorb EVs: 12 HP / 212 Def / 240 SAtk / 44 Spd Bold Nature - Scald - Substitute - Acid Armor - Baton Pass Mr. Mime (M) @ Leftovers Trait: Soundproof EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spd Timid Nature IVs: 30 Atk / 30 Def - Calm Mind - Psyshock - Substitute - Baton Pass Espeon (M) @ Leftovers Trait: Magic Bounce EVs: 128 Def / 128 SAtk / 252 Spd Timid Nature - Calm Mind - Hidden Power [Fighting] - Stored Power - Baton Pass Ninjask (M) @ Leftovers Trait: Speed Boost EVs: 248 HP / 4 Atk / 128 Def / 128 Spd Impish Nature - Substitute - Protect - Baton Pass - X-Scissor Mew @ Leftovers Trait: Synchronize EVs: 4 HP / 252 Def / 252 Spd Timid Nature - Taunt - Iron Defense - Baton Pass - Amnesia jolteon (Jolteon) @ Leftovers Trait: Volt Absorb EVs: 4 Def / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd Timid Nature - Thunderbolt - Hidden Power [Ice] - Baton Pass - Subsitute It's a BP team. la. di. da. __________________ Last edited by Lady Alex; Oct 8th, 2012 at 3:59:18 PM.

Oct 7th, 2012, 10:05:22 AM	#196
scampy Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 370 England, Kent	I've been having a lot of success with Rotom-H, so I'd like to give this a shot. Pokemon Showdown! Username: Super Tofu Boy Hall of Fame Standing: None Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Rotom-H, Blastoise Current Ladder Standing: 1000

Oct 7th, 2012, 11:07:43 AM	#197
Molk Recipe for disaster Moderator Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,222 Long Island	Pokemon Showdown! Username: The Killer Moth Hall of Fame Standing: Platinum Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Venomoth Current Ladder Standing: none on this alt not done with scrafty yet, but after i get gold on that, using this __________________ 16:46 <TLCNU> Esca literally is 2HKO'd by Stoutland Fire Fang 10:33 skylight molk put me in your sig Last edited by Molk; Oct 8th, 2012 at 12:05:03 PM.

Oct 7th, 2012, 11:54:30 AM	#198
discoboy Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 44	Pokemon Showdown! Username: discoman Hall of Fame Standing: None Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Chansey Current Ladder Standing: 1000

Oct 7th, 2012, 12:01:12 PM	#199
TropiOUs Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 415 North Korea	I wanted a challenge and molk told me to do this. This is a not a joke Pokemon Showdown! Username: GOML PS Hall of Fame Standing: Silver Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: THE MIGHTY METANG Current Ladder Standing: none on this alt I disapprove - Pocket __________________ 16:46 <TLCNU> Esca literally is 2HKO'd by Stoutland Fire Fang Last edited by Pocket; Oct 7th, 2012 at 5:17:15 PM.