5th Gen PRNG Help / Info - RNG Reporter 9.96.5, PPRNG 1.15.0 (Request in first post) - Page 622

**voodoo pimp** · Oct 9th, 2012, 3:23:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Dizzybanana21x

I am unable to find my parameters for my Black 2
Do I need to go somewhere w/o any NPCs?
If so, what is a good location

NPCs don't affect it, try expanding the search ranges.

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Originally Posted by Fat masterbreeder

For some reason my "profile" data for RNG Reporter 9.96 Alpha is saved in the wrong place, but I can't seem to find it. Can someone tell me what the file/folder name for the Profile is called so I can find it? (I'm using Windows Vista)

Should be profiles.xml in the same folder as the main program. Note that older versions of the profiles file are not compatible with 9.96 beta, so that might be causing some confusion.

coolbiz · Oct 9th, 2012, 3:24:38 PM

Is finding parameters for white 2 the same as 1?

SpeedSuicune · Oct 9th, 2012, 3:35:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat coolbiz

Is finding parameters for white 2 the same as 1?

Yes, though you can also use Unova Link to find your parameters more quickly. See the OP for details on how to do this in PPRNG (the process should be similar when RNG Reporter is updated to support this method).

remedy1502 · Oct 9th, 2012, 3:38:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat kiddu

^Try expanding the search ranges.

Expanded everything, still not coming up.
Welp.

Possible there's an issue with RNG Reporter since I'm not the only one having this problem?

Cipher Admin Lovrina · Oct 9th, 2012, 5:39:33 PM

Can someone help me find a certain id/sid combination based off of a shiny Oshawott gift seed in BW2? I can PM you my parameters and stuff after I find them. VM me :)

Gajeel · Oct 9th, 2012, 5:44:48 PM

Does it mean Nintendo are defying themselves with this stupid bug? Because if the game uses ONLY one seed (the one generated when creating your character), wouldn't that mean you'd get a lot of Pokemon with the same PIDs (and no two Pokemon should legally have the same PIDs). Would it also mean that some lucky shmoe who gets a low shiny frame will keep getting shinies while breeding? o.O

Hozu · Oct 9th, 2012, 6:06:49 PM

PID is unaffected by the bug.

**voodoo pimp** · Oct 9th, 2012, 6:12:04 PM

Not everything is overwritten - inheritance, DW true/false, non-Everstone nature, and Volbeat/Illumise/Nidoran species are the only things affected IIRC.

Gajeel · Oct 9th, 2012, 6:12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Hozu

PID is unaffected by the bug.

Correct me if I'm wrong but, isn't the PID when breeding determined by the seed you hit? (in this case the one and only seed)... And you get a list of PIDs and inheritance... So would some PIDs not repeat? Assuming a person turns off the while breeding... equivalent of constantly hitting one seed in Black/White

Hozu · Oct 9th, 2012, 6:13:53 PM

The issue is with a brand new PRNG that affects only nature/DW passing on/inherited IVs. PID is normal.

Gajeel · Oct 9th, 2012, 6:17:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Hozu

The issue is with a brand new PRNG that affects only nature/DW passing on/inherited IVs. PID is normal.

Oh I see, so its either a failed attempt of something new or punishment for RNGers :/ Fingers crossed that this doesn't repeat in future games

filipekiss · Oct 9th, 2012, 6:58:32 PM

Thanks to religiousjedi to point me out here.

So, I've been trying to RNG my Victini wondercard and I've been failing time after time. I'll describe my steps here and can you guys help me see what I am doing wrong? I am using a DS Lite and it's calibrated (If I try to RNG wild pokémon I have no trouble) and checking my seeds with PPRNG.

1 - Save in front of Mailman, ready to receive the gift from the Wondercard
2 - Turn of the DS Completely.
3 - Search PPRNG for Wondercard Search. Let's say I'll use this one:

If I'm not reading wrong and not completely stupid (they can both be true), if i Hit this Seed I Shall start on Frame 47 and advance 9 times up to hit 56 before I speak to the mail man.

4 - Hit my seed holding the buttons needed (or at least I think I am) and the game loads.

5 - Open the Pokémon, find the first Chatot and open the SUmmary. It cries so I'm guessing it advanced to frame 48. I flip between my two chatots. 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 56. I do it slowly to make sure the cry is complete before I change chatots. That done, I exit the pokémon menu and talk to the guy.

6 - Go check my Victini Nature and IVs. Quirky Nature and the IVs and Hidden power is matching the frame 49 according to PPRNG.

This means I am not starting in the frame informed by ppRNG?

Am I advancing the frame in a wrong way?

Should I give up RNGing and go play pokémon TCG instead?

Please help, guys ):

**voodoo pimp** · Oct 9th, 2012, 7:05:31 PM

Did you record a custom cry for Chatot, or is it the default sound? It only advances the PIDRNG if you're using a custom cry.

Also, where are you doing the RNG? Most Pokémon Centers have moving NPCs, which would explain why you hit frame 49 instead of 47. Pokémon League and Opelucid are both safe IIRC.

filipekiss · Oct 9th, 2012, 7:12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat voodoo pimp

Did you record a custom cry for Chatot, or is it the default sound? It only advances the PIDRNG if you're using a custom cry.

Also, where are you doing the RNG? Most Pokémon Centers have moving NPCs, which would explain why you hit frame 49 instead of 47. Pokémon League and Opelucid are both safe IIRC.

I recorded a cry for the chatot and I am using the PokéCenter near the League...

CodyBernheisel · Oct 9th, 2012, 7:33:39 PM

On Rng reporter 9.96 Im having a problem to where the reporter crashes everytime i try to search for Perimiters but this didnt happen on 9.95 when I did for BW1 any ideas on how to fix this?

TheChortler · Oct 9th, 2012, 7:51:02 PM

I'm having pretty much the exact same problem as everyone else: My profile isn't saving (at least nowhere visable) and I can't get the parameter finder to properly upload my parameters.

chiizu · Oct 9th, 2012, 7:52:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat filipekiss

So, I've been trying to RNG my Victini wondercard and I've been failing time after time.

What frame do you hit if you do no advances at all?
Do you have your roamer roaming?

Also, I don't think it should have any effect when you have Black 1 / White 1 set in your config, but there's no need to check Mem Link. Doing the Memory Link only has an effect in Black 2 / White 2 as far as we know. Try unchecking it in your config and see if the starting frames in the search results change.

Deltablazy · Oct 9th, 2012, 8:35:25 PM

I'm just mentioning that I'm having the same problem, where the DS parameter finder wouldn't give me a seed no matter what.

DarkestSamus · Oct 9th, 2012, 11:38:54 PM

I'm a tiny bit confused as to what IS and ISN'T available on the various RNG programs right now. I apologize in advance if this has been said time and time again, but can you please clarify the following bullet points for me?

*RNG Reporter can currently RNG stationary, wild, and Hidden Hollow Pokemon in English B2W2, but only on DS Phat/Lite (breeding not RNGable).
*RNG Reporter currently has no support for English Dream Radar, but it's coming up soon.
*PPRNG, a Mac-only program, can currently RNG English Dream Radar Pokemon in B2W2, but only on DS Phat/Lite.

Is this info true? Thanks!

EDIT: Oh, and is Memory Link able to be accounted for in RNG Reporter and/or PPRNG at present? I heard it moves the numbers around. Thanks again!

Cefiro · Oct 10th, 2012, 12:53:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat DarkestSamus

EDIT: Oh, and is Memory Link able to be accounted for in RNG Reporter and/or PPRNG at present? I heard it moves the numbers around. Thanks again!

Also curious about this; I bought Black 2 today but haven't started? Can you turn Memory Link off at any time by the way, if it does interfere?

Also, I have some really dumb questions as I haven't RNG'd in a year. I want to RNG Genesect, and restart my game once or twice to RNG him 2 or 3 times total (trading him to BW1 each time). Can I get all those parameters I need to know (gotten through IVs I think?) at relatively low levels early in the game? Or is that not possible and do I actually have to get far into the game? Thanks.

**voodoo pimp** · Oct 10th, 2012, 1:08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Cefiro

Also, I have some really dumb questions as I haven't RNG'd in a year. I want to RNG Genesect, and restart my game once or twice to RNG him 2 or 3 times total (trading him to BW1 each time). Can I get all those parameters I need to know (gotten through IVs I think?) at relatively low levels early in the game? Or is that not possible and do I actually have to get far into the game? Thanks.

You can get parameters as soon as you can get accurate IVs. If you can use Pokécheck, then that's as soon as you can use the GTS.

Also keep in mind that parameters don't change when you start a new game, so you should only need to do the whole process once.

Cefiro · Oct 10th, 2012, 1:18:24 AM

Was unaware of Pokecheck's existence. It doesn't screw with anything in the game, right? Totally safe and non-game-interfering (just wanna make sure)?

What's typically the lowest level you can get an accurate IV check at anyway for parameters?

emboars · Oct 10th, 2012, 1:38:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Cefiro

Was unaware of Pokecheck's existence. It doesn't screw with anything in the game, right? Totally safe and non-game-interfering (just wanna make sure)?

What's typically the lowest level you can get an accurate IV check at anyway for parameters?

if the pokemon is 100lvl then you get 100% accuracy...so as the level become lower you get many results and one of them is your paras....

Cefiro · Oct 10th, 2012, 1:44:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat emboars

if the pokemon is 100lvl then you get 100% accuracy...so as the level become lower you get many results and one of them is your paras....

Yeah, my question is what's the lowest level to determine the para? Because I remember in BW1 I did it with Pokes around level 65 just fine, but how low can one go?
Eh, may just do the Pokecheck thing, doesn't seem too hard.

Hozu · Oct 10th, 2012, 2:10:10 AM

Characteristic + Hidden Power type (Mistralton Pokémon Centre) + maybe subway judge info should be enough. Couple levels worth of stats via Rare Candies works too.

Oct 9th, 2012, 3:24:38 PM	#15527
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Oct 9th, 2012, 5:39:33 PM	#15530
Cipher Admin Lovrina Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,026	Can someone help me find a certain id/sid combination based off of a shiny Oshawott gift seed in BW2? I can PM you my parameters and stuff after I find them. VM me :) __________________ Trade Thread White Code: 2193 7255 6108

Oct 9th, 2012, 5:44:48 PM	#15531
Gajeel Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 32	The breeding bug Does it mean Nintendo are defying themselves with this stupid bug? Because if the game uses ONLY one seed (the one generated when creating your character), wouldn't that mean you'd get a lot of Pokemon with the same PIDs (and no two Pokemon should legally have the same PIDs). Would it also mean that some lucky shmoe who gets a low shiny frame will keep getting shinies while breeding? o.O __________________ "I will make this guy my cat!"

Oct 9th, 2012, 6:06:49 PM	#15532
Hozu RNGenius Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 1,182 Orre	PID is unaffected by the bug. __________________ McGillicuddy's Bazaar - Hidden Grotto encounter RNG guide for RNG reporter - Emerald Egg PID RNG guide - Misc 3rd gen info - incl. Emerald frontier/Orre Colosseum, frame offsets - Free events If I CMT in your thread please respond in mine. If I really wanted a Pokémon that is more common than herpes, I'd get it myself from Pokécheck.

Oct 9th, 2012, 6:12:04 PM	#15533
voodoo pimp Apply directly to the forehead Moderator Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 2,965	Not everything is overwritten - inheritance, DW true/false, non-Everstone nature, and Volbeat/Illumise/Nidoran species are the only things affected IIRC. __________________ Check out Smogon's new Doubles metagame! White FC: 4126-4421-4056 Black 2 FC: 3311-0920-4475 My Pokécheck Pokémon RNG is kind of like firing a gun. Why shoot blindly in every direction until you're lucky enough to hit the target when you can just take the time to aim properly and hit it with one shot?

Oct 9th, 2012, 6:13:53 PM	#15535
Hozu RNGenius Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 1,182 Orre	The issue is with a brand new PRNG that affects only nature/DW passing on/inherited IVs. PID is normal. __________________ McGillicuddy's Bazaar - Hidden Grotto encounter RNG guide for RNG reporter - Emerald Egg PID RNG guide - Misc 3rd gen info - incl. Emerald frontier/Orre Colosseum, frame offsets - Free events If I CMT in your thread please respond in mine. If I really wanted a Pokémon that is more common than herpes, I'd get it myself from Pokécheck.

Oct 9th, 2012, 6:58:32 PM	#15537
filipekiss Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 3	Thanks to religiousjedi to point me out here. So, I've been trying to RNG my Victini wondercard and I've been failing time after time. I'll describe my steps here and can you guys help me see what I am doing wrong? I am using a DS Lite and it's calibrated (If I try to RNG wild pokémon I have no trouble) and checking my seeds with PPRNG. 1 - Save in front of Mailman, ready to receive the gift from the Wondercard 2 - Turn of the DS Completely. 3 - Search PPRNG for Wondercard Search. Let's say I'll use this one: If I'm not reading wrong and not completely stupid (they can both be true), if i Hit this Seed I Shall start on Frame 47 and advance 9 times up to hit 56 before I speak to the mail man. 4 - Hit my seed holding the buttons needed (or at least I think I am) and the game loads. 5 - Open the Pokémon, find the first Chatot and open the SUmmary. It cries so I'm guessing it advanced to frame 48. I flip between my two chatots. 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 56. I do it slowly to make sure the cry is complete before I change chatots. That done, I exit the pokémon menu and talk to the guy. 6 - Go check my Victini Nature and IVs. Quirky Nature and the IVs and Hidden power is matching the frame 49 according to PPRNG. This means I am not starting in the frame informed by ppRNG? Am I advancing the frame in a wrong way? Should I give up RNGing and go play pokémon TCG instead? Please help, guys ): Last edited by filipekiss; Oct 9th, 2012 at 7:06:37 PM. Reason: Correcting the image link

Oct 9th, 2012, 7:05:31 PM	#15538
voodoo pimp Apply directly to the forehead Moderator Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 2,965	Did you record a custom cry for Chatot, or is it the default sound? It only advances the PIDRNG if you're using a custom cry. Also, where are you doing the RNG? Most Pokémon Centers have moving NPCs, which would explain why you hit frame 49 instead of 47. Pokémon League and Opelucid are both safe IIRC. __________________ Check out Smogon's new Doubles metagame! White FC: 4126-4421-4056 Black 2 FC: 3311-0920-4475 My Pokécheck Pokémon RNG is kind of like firing a gun. Why shoot blindly in every direction until you're lucky enough to hit the target when you can just take the time to aim properly and hit it with one shot?

Oct 9th, 2012, 7:33:39 PM	#15540
CodyBernheisel Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 6	On Rng reporter 9.96 Im having a problem to where the reporter crashes everytime i try to search for Perimiters but this didnt happen on 9.95 when I did for BW1 any ideas on how to fix this?

Oct 9th, 2012, 7:51:02 PM	#15541
TheChortler Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 32 In a hole in your backyard where I continue to be a leech to your WiFi and power with my laptop	I'm having pretty much the exact same problem as everyone else: My profile isn't saving (at least nowhere visable) and I can't get the parameter finder to properly upload my parameters. __________________ Remember when you ran away and I got on my knees and begged you not to leave because I'd go berserk?? Well... You left me anyhow and then the days got worse and worse and now you see I've gone completely out of my mind.. And.. They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa!! They're coming to take me away, ho-ho, hee-hee, ha-haaa To the funny farm. Where life is beautiful all the time and I'll be happy to see those nice young men in their clean white coats and they're coming to take me away, ha-haaa!!!!! You thought it was a joke and so you laughed, you laughed when I had said that loosing you would make me flip my lid.. RIGHT??? I know you laughed, I heard you laugh, you laughed you laughed and laughed and then you left, but now you know I'm utterly mad... And.. They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa, They're coming to take me away, ho-ho, hee-hee, ha-haaa. To the happy home. With trees and flowers and chirping birds and basket weavers who sit and smile and twiddle their thumbs and toes and they're coming to take me away, ha-haaa!!! I cooked your food, I cleaned your house, and this is how you pay me back for all my kind unselfish loving deeds.. Huh?? Well you just wait, they'll find you yet and when they do they'll put you in the ASPCA, you mangy mutt!!! And... They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa. They're coming to take me away, ho-ho, hee-hee, ha-haaa. To the funny farm, where life is beautiful all the time and I'll be happy to see those nice young men in their clean white coats and they're coming to take me away, ha-haaa!!! To the happy home, with trees and flowers and chirping birds and basket weavers who sit and smile and twiddle their thumbs and toes and they're coming to take me away, ha-haa!!! To the funny farm, where life is beautiful all the time... Hey, buddy! Yes officer.. You a head? No, but I'm catching up, ha ha ha....

Oct 9th, 2012, 8:35:25 PM	#15543
Deltablazy Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 21	I'm just mentioning that I'm having the same problem, where the DS parameter finder wouldn't give me a seed no matter what. Last edited by Deltablazy; Oct 9th, 2012 at 11:27:37 PM.

Oct 9th, 2012, 11:38:54 PM	#15544
DarkestSamus Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 54	I'm a tiny bit confused as to what IS and ISN'T available on the various RNG programs right now. I apologize in advance if this has been said time and time again, but can you please clarify the following bullet points for me? RNG Reporter can currently RNG stationary, wild, and Hidden Hollow Pokemon in English B2W2, but only on DS Phat/Lite (breeding not RNGable). RNG Reporter currently has no support for English Dream Radar, but it's coming up soon. *PPRNG, a Mac-only program, can currently RNG English Dream Radar Pokemon in B2W2, but only on DS Phat/Lite. Is this info true? Thanks! EDIT: Oh, and is Memory Link able to be accounted for in RNG Reporter and/or PPRNG at present? I heard it moves the numbers around. Thanks again!

Oct 10th, 2012, 1:18:24 AM	#15547
Cefiro Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 140	Was unaware of Pokecheck's existence. It doesn't screw with anything in the game, right? Totally safe and non-game-interfering (just wanna make sure)? What's typically the lowest level you can get an accurate IV check at anyway for parameters? __________________ Pokemon Diamond Friend Code: 1678 2454 2881

Oct 10th, 2012, 2:10:10 AM	#15550
Hozu RNGenius Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 1,182 Orre	Characteristic + Hidden Power type (Mistralton Pokémon Centre) + maybe subway judge info should be enough. Couple levels worth of stats via Rare Candies works too. __________________ McGillicuddy's Bazaar - Hidden Grotto encounter RNG guide for RNG reporter - Emerald Egg PID RNG guide - Misc 3rd gen info - incl. Emerald frontier/Orre Colosseum, frame offsets - Free events If I CMT in your thread please respond in mine. If I really wanted a Pokémon that is more common than herpes, I'd get it myself from Pokécheck.