Bug Reports v2.0 (READ OP BEFORE POSTING!!) - Page 27

**MJB** · Oct 7th, 2012, 1:50:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat FlareBlitz

Turn 23

The foe's Hitmonlee used Endure!
The foe's Hitmonlee braced itself!
Darmanitan used U-turn!
It's not very effective...
The foe's Hitmonlee's encore ended!
Turn 24

FlareBlitz called Darmanitan back!
FlareBlitz sent out Whimsicott!
The foe's Hitmonlee used Reversal!
Whimsicott lost 100% of its health!

Whimsicott didn't get an opportunity to move during turn 24 at all - is this normal in-game behavior? Just wondering.

This looks like an old bug we used to have. was either hitmonlee or darmanitan holding a toxic orb by anychance?

***Zarel**** · Oct 7th, 2012, 1:59:51 PM

No, the scarf bug is real, and the Darmanitan U-turn bug is because U-turn didn't deal damage.

FlareBlitz · Oct 7th, 2012, 3:09:40 PM

Another quick question...
Turn 3

Fentony called Porygon-Z back!
Fentony sent out Suicune!
Pointed stones dug into the foe's Suicune!
The foe's Suicune is exerting its pressure!

Mienshao used Hi Jump Kick!
The foe's Suicune lost 45% of its health!
Mienshao lost some of its HP!

Mienshao had Reckless. Using online damage calculators, I get a minimum 52% against max/max+ Suicune. There were no relevant field effects. Is Reckless accurately applied to Hi Jump Kick?

personmanthing · Oct 7th, 2012, 11:41:58 PM

If you transform into the opposing pokemon and then use baton pass your pokemons sprite will be passed to,(not the pokemon you transformed into) as seen in http://play.pokemonshowdown.com/battle-ou2584287

MKSLAYER97 · Oct 8th, 2012, 12:03:48 PM

Hi, I just noticed that on the list of known glitches, it doesn't include that when you're put to sleep while using Outrage, Thrash, or Petal Dance, it doesn't let you switch.

alexwolf · Oct 8th, 2012, 1:05:15 PM

Check this out:

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Foul Play did only 20% to what was supposed to be a max Atk Metagross. I know that it was max Atk because his EQ did 89% on my max HP Ninetales, so the calcs match.

According to Honko damage calculator it should have done 38.46 - 45.05%, as Foul Play uses the opponent's Atk stat. Instead it did half of that so i suspect that in PS! it is wrongly implemented that when the opponent is burned Foul Play damage is halved. In reality Foul Play damage is halved only if the user is burned.

**MJB** · Oct 8th, 2012, 1:08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat alexwolf

Check this out:

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Foul Play did only 20% to what was supposed to be a max Atk Metagross. I know that it was max Atk because his EQ did 89% on my max HP Ninetales, so the calcs match.

According to Honko damage calculator it should have done 38.46 - 45.05%, as Foul Play uses the opponent's Atk stat. Instead it did half of that so i suspect that in PS! it is wrongly implemented that when the opponent is burned Foul Play damage is halved. In reality Foul Play damage is halved only if the user is burned.

Im not sure but i believe foul play hasn't been implemented properly yet, I think for the moment it has a flat base power

Zauio · Oct 8th, 2012, 2:18:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Psychomental

While very unlikely it is possible that the jolteon was running no speed ev's while mew was 252 timid. As jolteon is most likely running HP ice, it is possible that he is running imperfect speed iv's, while mew would presumably not, therefore mew would out speed every time, so I have to be sure here becuase frankly that is the only thing that makes sense to me.

No i set it up with a friend the jolteon was 252 speed and timid with 31 speed iv's, so there is no way the mew could not have out speed with out a scraf which my mew had and was able to select any move after transform without being stuck on just one.

UmbreonMessiah · Oct 8th, 2012, 8:00:54 PM

Playing a game recently, I had two Pokemon using Life Orb with the Ability Sheer Force. Both of these Pokemon took 10% each time they used a move, despite the fact that Sheer Force is supposed to negate Life Orb damage.

**Marty D** · Oct 8th, 2012, 8:16:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat FlareBlitz

Is Reckless accurately applied to Hi Jump Kick?

It wasn't, but it will be after the next restart. Good find, thanks!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat UmbreonMessiah

Playing a game recently, I had two Pokemon using Life Orb with the Ability Sheer Force. Both of these Pokemon took 10% each time they used a move, despite the fact that Sheer Force is supposed to negate Life Orb damage.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Antar

NOT BUGS

- Sheer Force prevents Life Orb recoil only when using moves that have a secondary effect removed by Sheer Force

Aeguis · Oct 8th, 2012, 9:49:35 PM

the bug that I am getting is that I do not seem to be able to play because it says that Aeguis is already taken, and correct it is taken by me, and the thing is that the internet kicked me, and when I reconnected, the game did not recognize me as ME. I went ahead and registered the account and checked if that worked. It didn't so I am guessing this is a bug.

lars · Oct 9th, 2012, 3:47:51 AM

Does the bug where you refresh and it goes to spectator mode always happen? because I think I've been able to refresh and get back into battle fine before.

Just wondering because it just happened to my opponent.

***Zarel**** · Oct 9th, 2012, 3:53:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat lars

Does the bug where you refresh and it goes to spectator mode always happen? because I think I've been able to refresh and get back into battle fine before.

Just wondering because it just happened to my opponent.

It happens when you have a ghost, in other words, if you reconnect before the server notices your previous session has disconnected. Alternatively, if you reconnect while having another PS window open.

The best way to fix it is to rejoin: use the commands: /leavebattle and /joinbattle.

I'll be fixing it as soon as I get some free time.

TropiOUs · Oct 9th, 2012, 1:53:12 PM

Mold Breaker doesn't make the pokemon attack like if it had its boosts when facing an unaware pokemon.

From Veekun:

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For example, this Pokémon's moves ignore abilities that would fully negate them, such as Water Absorb; abilities that would prevent any of their effects, such as Clear Body, Shell Armor, or Sticky Hold; and abilities that grant any general protective benefit, such as Simple, Snow Cloak, or Thick Fat. If an ability could either hinder or help this Pokémon's moves, e.g. Dry Skin or Unaware, the ability is ignored either way.

Replay of this happening:
http://pokemonshowdown.com/replay/ru2643066 skip to turn 11 to identify this happening, because all damage calculators give me something like this when going for the damage Fraxure should have done to its opponent:
+2 252 Atk Jolly Mold Breaker Fraxure Outrage vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Relaxed Leftovers Unaware Quagsire : 291-343 (73.85 - 87.05%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252Atk +2 Mold Breaker Fraxure (Neutral) Outrage vs 252HP/252Def Leftovers Quagsire (+Def): 73% - 87% (291 - 343 HP). Guaranteed 2HKO.

And based on the damage on that replay, it is obvious I got the one that Fraxure would have done without a boost

252 Atk Jolly Mold Breaker Fraxure Outrage vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Relaxed Leftovers Unaware Quagsire : 145-172 (36.8 - 43.65%) -- 99.83% chance to 3HKO

iiTsFirefly112 · Oct 9th, 2012, 2:48:20 PM

Just had a Flygon Roosting and my Gligar EQed... Didn't effect...

hawknest · Oct 9th, 2012, 4:25:58 PM

When an opponent has reflect up, critical hits ignore the damage reduction, not sure about magic coat

ChildDaemon · Oct 9th, 2012, 4:56:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat alexwolf

Foul Play did only 20% to what was supposed to be a max Atk Metagross. I know that it was max Atk because his EQ did 89% on my max HP Ninetales, so the calcs match.

According to Honko damage calculator it should have done 38.46 - 45.05%, as Foul Play uses the opponent's Atk stat. Instead it did half of that so i suspect that in PS! it is wrongly implemented that when the opponent is burned Foul Play damage is halved. In reality Foul Play damage is halved only if the user is burned.

I can confirm that Foul Play halves in power if the opponent is burned rather than if the user is burned (see log below). I know it also does NOT halve in power if you are burned but I don't have that log handy.

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**mikel** · Oct 9th, 2012, 5:42:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat iiTsFirefly112

Just had a Flygon Roosting and my Gligar EQed... Didn't effect...

This is correct - Levitate does not get removed by Roost, only the Ground-type immunity from the Flying type.

**Molk** · Oct 9th, 2012, 9:35:25 PM

Okay, im honestly tired of this.......

This has happened to me and many other people countless times (last one was like 5 minutes ago). For some reason, the speed tiers occasionally fuck up and i usually lose a match because something dumb like a starmie outspeeding my max/max timid chloro venusaur in the sun. (yes, i checked my venusaur during the match to see, it had chlorophyll). Another example is when my toxic orb swellow outsped my opponents timid scarf rotom-C
(i knew it was scarf because it outsped my sceptile earlier in the match. It also happened to my friend when he was facing a landorus on the suspect ladder, it outsped his scarf genesect on a crucial turn, but then lost to his subSD garchomp. I do not have any logs atm, but i will try to get a replay where this glitch occurs. Has anyone else experienced this?

The Last Tensiga · Oct 10th, 2012, 10:12:37 AM

In pokemon Showdown I can't use Chansey with counter and sesmic toss on the same set. Can you (smogon) fix this?

**Marty D** · Oct 10th, 2012, 12:05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat The Last Tensiga

In pokemon Showdown I can't use Chansey with counter and sesmic toss on the same set. Can you (smogon) fix this?

This is technically only half broken; until it is fixed you can use that combination as long as Counter comes before Seismic Toss in your moveset. i.e. Counter, Softboiled, Seismic Toss, Toxic will work instead of Seismic Toss, Softboiled, Counter, Toxic.

pelykulax · Oct 10th, 2012, 6:38:10 PM

Problem: Last resort/Pure Hackmons - Pssible coding problem on the move or tier exception

Explanation: Last resort failed (*wow*). Yes, I know how to use the move. The thing is, I had a poke with 2 moves, fake out and last resort. Fake out HITS, last resort failed. So my theory is either last resort is coded to hit only if you use/hit 3 diferent moves before, or hackmons has some exception/problem with last resort. And I say hackmons because I haven't tested it in any other tier, due to the fact that a pokemon with only those two moves is walled by a ghost type (if it doesn't have Scrappy).

Clith · Oct 10th, 2012, 6:42:36 PM

Turn 20
Dewgong used Ice Shard!
It's super effective! The foe's Drifblim lost 39% of its health!
Dewgong lost some of its HP!
Dewgong fainted!
The foe's Drifblim used Substitute!
It was too weak to make a substitute!
Clith sent out Delibird!
Turn 21
Delibird used Ice Shard!
The attack of Delibird missed!

That ice shard shouldn't have missed

***Zebraiken**** · Oct 10th, 2012, 6:47:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Clith

Turn 20
Dewgong used Ice Shard!
It's super effective! The foe's Drifblim lost 39% of its health!
Dewgong lost some of its HP!
Dewgong fainted!
The foe's Drifblim used Substitute!
It was too weak to make a substitute!
Clith sent out Delibird!
Turn 21
Delibird used Ice Shard!
The attack of Delibird missed!

That ice shard shouldn't have missed

Hustle gives you a 20% chance to miss your move in exchange for more power. Delibird had Hustle.

**Marty D** · Oct 10th, 2012, 6:54:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat pelykulax

Problem: Last resort/Pure Hackmons - Pssible coding problem on the move or tier exception

Explanation: Last resort failed (*wow*). Yes, I know how to use the move. The thing is, I had a poke with 2 moves, fake out and last resort. Fake out HITS, last resort failed. So my theory is either last resort is coded to hit only if you use/hit 3 diferent moves before, or hackmons has some exception/problem with last resort. And I say hackmons because I haven't tested it in any other tier, due to the fact that a pokemon with only those two moves is walled by a ghost type (if it doesn't have Scrappy).

Did you have any 'undefined' moves in your moveset? View your team in Import/Export and see if you have

- Fake Out
- Last Resort
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Removing any extra lines will fix this; they technically count as moves. Note that this only happens when you had a move in that slot previously and deleted it.

Oct 7th, 2012, 1:59:51 PM	#652
*Zarel >> BEGIN POSTBIT Super Moderator** Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 1,170 >> END POSTBIT	No, the scarf bug is real, and the Darmanitan U-turn bug is because U-turn didn't deal damage. __________________ Pokemon Showdown \| Replay player \| No, I am not impressed that you know that my name is Guangcong Luo. The PS website says "Copyright Guangcong Luo" at the bottom, ffs.

Oct 7th, 2012, 3:09:40 PM	#653
FlareBlitz This was never a story that would have a happy ending. Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,041 Somewhere on the edge of the bell curve	Another quick question... Turn 3 Fentony called Porygon-Z back! Fentony sent out Suicune! Pointed stones dug into the foe's Suicune! The foe's Suicune is exerting its pressure! Mienshao used Hi Jump Kick! The foe's Suicune lost 45% of its health! Mienshao lost some of its HP! Mienshao had Reckless. Using online damage calculators, I get a minimum 52% against max/max+ Suicune. There were no relevant field effects. Is Reckless accurately applied to Hi Jump Kick? __________________ Everything was beautiful. Nothing hurt. I'm back, baby. Look for me in 5th gen UU!

Oct 7th, 2012, 11:41:58 PM	#654
personmanthing Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 3	baton pass glitch If you transform into the opposing pokemon and then use baton pass your pokemons sprite will be passed to,(not the pokemon you transformed into) as seen in http://play.pokemonshowdown.com/battle-ou2584287

Oct 8th, 2012, 1:05:15 PM	#656
alexwolf King of Conquerors Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 3,761 Greece	Check this out: ... alexwolf joined. drag0npride joined. Format: OU Rated battle Rule: Sleep Clause Rule: Species Clause Rule: OHKO Clause Rule: Evasion Clause alexwolf's team: Ninetales / Cresselia / Sableye / Jirachi / Tentacruel / Chansey drag0npride's team: Ninetales / Tyranitar / Metagross / Latios / Torterra / Milotic Battle between alexwolf and drag0npride started! alexwolf sent out Tentacruel! drag0npride sent out Tyranitar! The foe's Tyranitar's Sand Stream whipped up a sandstorm! Turn 1 Tentacruel used Toxic Spikes! Poison spikes were scattered all around the feet of the foe's team! The foe's Tyranitar used Stealth Rock! Pointed stones float in the air around your team! The sandstorm rages. Tentacruel is buffeted by the sandstorm! Tentacruel restored HP using its Black Sludge! Turn 2 Tentacruel used Toxic Spikes! Poison spikes were scattered all around the feet of the foe's team! The foe's Tyranitar used Ice Beam! It's not very effective... Tentacruel lost 13% of its health! The sandstorm rages. Tentacruel is buffeted by the sandstorm! Tentacruel restored HP using its Black Sludge! Turn 3 Tentacruel used Toxic! The foe's Tyranitar was badly poisoned! The foe's Tyranitar used Earthquake! It's super effective! Tentacruel lost 56% of its health! The sandstorm rages. Tentacruel is buffeted by the sandstorm! Tentacruel restored HP using its Black Sludge! The foe's Tyranitar was hurt by poison! Turn 4 Tentacruel used Rapid Spin! It's not very effective... The foe's Tyranitar lost 1% of its health! The pointed stones disappeared from around your team! The foe's Tyranitar used Earthquake! It's super effective! Tentacruel lost 31% of its health! Tentacruel fainted! The sandstorm rages. The foe's Tyranitar restored HP using its Leftovers! The foe's Tyranitar was hurt by poison! alexwolf sent out Sableye! Turn 5 Sableye used Taunt! The foe's Tyranitar fell for the taunt! The foe's Tyranitar used Ice Beam! Sableye lost 33% of its health! The sandstorm rages. Sableye is buffeted by the sandstorm! Sableye restored HP using its Leftovers! The foe's Tyranitar restored HP using its Leftovers! The foe's Tyranitar was hurt by poison! Turn 6 The foe's Tyranitar used Fire Blast! The attack of the foe's Tyranitar missed! Sableye used Foul Play! A critical hit! It's not very effective... The foe's Tyranitar lost 34% of its health! The sandstorm rages. Sableye is buffeted by the sandstorm! Sableye restored HP using its Leftovers! The foe's Tyranitar restored HP using its Leftovers! The foe's Tyranitar was hurt by poison! Turn 7 Sableye used Recover! Sableye regained health! The foe's Tyranitar used Fire Blast! Sableye lost 45% of its health! The sandstorm rages. Sableye is buffeted by the sandstorm! The foe's Tyranitar restored HP using its Leftovers! Sableye restored HP using its Leftovers! The foe's Tyranitar was hurt by poison! The foe's Tyranitar fainted! drag0npride sent out Metagross! Turn 8 alexwolf called Sableye back! alexwolf sent out Ninetales! Ninetales's Drought intensified the sun's rays! The foe's Metagross used Earthquake! It's super effective! Ninetales lost 91% of its health! Ninetales restored HP using its Leftovers! Turn 9 Ninetales used Disable! The foe's Metagross's Earthquake was disabled! The foe's Metagross used Stealth Rock! Pointed stones float in the air around your team! Ninetales restored HP using its Leftovers! Turn 10 Ninetales used Fire Spin! It's super effective! The foe's Metagross lost 35% of its health! The foe's Metagross used Psychic! A critical hit! Ninetales lost 21% of its health! Ninetales fainted! The foe's Metagross restored HP using its Leftovers! The foe's Metagross's firespin ended! alexwolf sent out Sableye! Pointed stones dug into Sableye! Turn 11 Sableye used Will-O-Wisp! The foe's Metagross was burned! The foe's Metagross used Psychic! It doesn't affect Sableye... Sableye restored HP using its Leftovers! The foe's Metagross restored HP using its Leftovers! The foe's Metagross was hurt by its burn! Turn 12 Sableye used Recover! Sableye regained health! The foe's Metagross used Ice Punch! Sableye lost 19% of its health! The foe's Metagross restored HP using its Leftovers! Sableye restored HP using its Leftovers! The foe's Metagross was hurt by its burn! The foe's Metagross is no longer disabled! Turn 13 Sableye used Will-O-Wisp! The foe's Metagross is already burned. The foe's Metagross used Earthquake! Sableye lost 23% of its health! Sableye restored HP using its Leftovers! The foe's Metagross restored HP using its Leftovers! The foe's Metagross was hurt by its burn! Turn 14 Sableye used Will-O-Wisp! The attack of Sableye missed! The foe's Metagross used Ice Punch! Sableye lost 19% of its health! Sableye restored HP using its Leftovers! The foe's Metagross restored HP using its Leftovers! The foe's Metagross was hurt by its burn! Turn 15 Sableye used Will-O-Wisp! The foe's Metagross is already burned. The foe's Metagross used Ice Punch! Sableye lost 17% of its health! The foe's Metagross restored HP using its Leftovers! Sableye restored HP using its Leftovers! The foe's Metagross was hurt by its burn! Turn 16 Sableye used Recover! Sableye regained health! The foe's Metagross used Ice Punch! Sableye lost 20% of its health! The foe's Metagross restored HP using its Leftovers! Sableye restored HP using its Leftovers! The foe's Metagross was hurt by its burn! Turn 17 The foe's Metagross used Earthquake! Sableye lost 25% of its health! Sableye used Foul Play! The foe's Metagross lost 20% of its health! Sableye restored HP using its Leftovers! The foe's Metagross restored HP using its Leftovers! The foe's Metagross was hurt by its burn! Foul Play did only 20% to what was supposed to be a max Atk Metagross. I know that it was max Atk because his EQ did 89% on my max HP Ninetales, so the calcs match. According to Honko damage calculator it should have done 38.46 - 45.05%, as Foul Play uses the opponent's Atk stat. Instead it did half of that so i suspect that in PS! it is wrongly implemented that when the opponent is burned Foul Play damage is halved. In reality Foul Play damage is halved only if the user is burned. __________________ Part of the OU QC team, message me for a check!

Oct 9th, 2012, 3:47:51 AM	#662
lars Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 265	Does the bug where you refresh and it goes to spectator mode always happen? because I think I've been able to refresh and get back into battle fine before. Just wondering because it just happened to my opponent. __________________ lars: scolipede is such an under rated lead DiscoLord: it eats cyanide and shits fucking acid ---------------------------------------------------- O.o <--- that is all I have to say

Oct 8th, 2012, 12:03:48 PM	#655
MKSLAYER97 Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 7 Long Island, NY	Hi, I just noticed that on the list of known glitches, it doesn't include that when you're put to sleep while using Outrage, Thrash, or Petal Dance, it doesn't let you switch.

Oct 8th, 2012, 8:00:54 PM	#659
UmbreonMessiah Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 3	Playing a game recently, I had two Pokemon using Life Orb with the Ability Sheer Force. Both of these Pokemon took 10% each time they used a move, despite the fact that Sheer Force is supposed to negate Life Orb damage.

Oct 8th, 2012, 9:49:35 PM	#661
Aeguis Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 1	the bug that I am getting is that I do not seem to be able to play because it says that Aeguis is already taken, and correct it is taken by me, and the thing is that the internet kicked me, and when I reconnected, the game did not recognize me as ME. I went ahead and registered the account and checked if that worked. It didn't so I am guessing this is a bug.

Oct 9th, 2012, 2:48:20 PM	#665
iiTsFirefly112 Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 28 TheFlyingMagnet on PS!	Just had a Flygon Roosting and my Gligar EQed... Didn't effect...

Oct 9th, 2012, 4:25:58 PM	#666
hawknest Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 3	When an opponent has reflect up, critical hits ignore the damage reduction, not sure about magic coat

Oct 9th, 2012, 9:35:25 PM	#669
Molk Recipe for swag Moderator Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,325 Long Island	Okay, im honestly tired of this....... This has happened to me and many other people countless times (last one was like 5 minutes ago). For some reason, the speed tiers occasionally fuck up and i usually lose a match because something dumb like a starmie outspeeding my max/max timid chloro venusaur in the sun. (yes, i checked my venusaur during the match to see, it had chlorophyll). Another example is when my toxic orb swellow outsped my opponents timid scarf rotom-C (i knew it was scarf because it outsped my sceptile earlier in the match. It also happened to my friend when he was facing a landorus on the suspect ladder, it outsped his scarf genesect on a crucial turn, but then lost to his subSD garchomp. I do not have any logs atm, but i will try to get a replay where this glitch occurs. Has anyone else experienced this? __________________ 16:46 <TLCNU> Esca literally is 2HKO'd by Stoutland Fire Fang 10:33 skylight molk put me in your sig

Oct 10th, 2012, 10:12:37 AM	#670
The Last Tensiga Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 8	In pokemon Showdown I can't use Chansey with counter and sesmic toss on the same set. Can you (smogon) fix this?

Oct 10th, 2012, 6:38:10 PM	#672
pelykulax Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 2	Problem: Last resort/Pure Hackmons - Pssible coding problem on the move or tier exception Explanation: Last resort failed (wow). Yes, I know how to use the move. The thing is, I had a poke with 2 moves, fake out and last resort. Fake out HITS, last resort failed. So my theory is either last resort is coded to hit only if you use/hit 3 diferent moves before, or hackmons has some exception/problem with last resort. And I say hackmons because I haven't tested it in any other tier, due to the fact that a pokemon with only those two moves is walled by a ghost type (if it doesn't have Scrappy).

Oct 10th, 2012, 6:42:36 PM	#673
Clith Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 1	Turn 20 Dewgong used Ice Shard! It's super effective! The foe's Drifblim lost 39% of its health! Dewgong lost some of its HP! Dewgong fainted! The foe's Drifblim used Substitute! It was too weak to make a substitute! Clith sent out Delibird! Turn 21 Delibird used Ice Shard! The attack of Delibird missed! That ice shard shouldn't have missed