The Dark Horse Project IV - Page 11

ClubbingSealCub · Oct 9th, 2012, 7:04:28 PM

Okay, gonna call this round early for me (peaked at only 1730 Glicko2 :c ) because I'm getting like -20 for every loss and +3 for every win, and quite frankly, the last 3 games have been hax-plagued and I'm not enjoying playing this stall-ish team anymore.

However, Shaymin is a god damn beast. Seed Flare demolishes pretty much everything, Earth Power brings down whatever Seed Flare doesn't and with HP Fire and Leech Seed there's usually one switch-in to you - Dragonite, and he doesn't enjoy taking Leech Seeds.

Jellicent is an amazing pokémon, he pretty much shuts stall on it's own (except for the rare Sableye), spinblocks and is great against rain. Shits on Ferro too.

Hippo is bulky as hell, we all know that. But his SpDef set is one of, if not THE best weather starter.

Here are the sets I used, in case someone wants to give them a try:

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I used them in a semi-stallish team with a RestTalk Shed Shell Heatran, Forretress, and the last poke alternated between AcroGliscor and SD Landorus for wallbreaking - and I have to say it was better than what I had originally expected.

Ninelol · Oct 9th, 2012, 7:12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Pocket

Much blood has been shed in the past day... ninelol lost his Rotom-H to scampy, and ganj4lf has been dropped out of HoF ;-; (don't give up!), because of Lady Alex.

However, I'd really like to applaud Molk, a double-platinum HoFer! That is probably the greatest accomplishment second to becoming a Grandmaster >:D

noooo Rotom-h!

Myzozoa · Oct 9th, 2012, 8:47:11 PM

Played 31 games, went 25-6. 5 losses to Venemoth sleep powder miss. 42nd on the ladder with 79 deviation and 2039 ACRE. Basically Venemoth is a perfect passer to balloon Heatran or Keldeo, and my team was solid enough that I could win games even without a pass. Even when Venemoth couldn't pass quiver dance, it could still sleep something which is valuable all by itself. The team:

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Jobriq · Oct 9th, 2012, 8:50:52 PM

Zebraiken is NU cuz manectric?
Pokemon Showdown! Username: Loligant
Hall of Fame Standing: I forget
Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Lilligant
Current Ladder Standing on Pokemon Showdown!: 1728 ± 83

Loligant (Lilligant) @ Leftovers
Trait: Chlorophyll
EVs: 72 Def / 252 SAtk / 184 Spd
Modest Nature
- Giga Drain
- Quiver Dance
- Sleep Powder
- Hidden Power (Fire/Rock/Ground)

ClubbingSealCub · Oct 10th, 2012, 4:43:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Myzozoa

Played 31 games, went 25-6. 5 losses to Venemoth sleep powder miss. 42nd on the ladder with 79 deviation and 2039 ACRE. Basically Venemoth is a perfect passer to balloon Heatran or Keldeo, and my team was solid enough that I could win games even without a pass. Even when Venemoth couldn't pass quiver dance, it could still sleep something which is valuable all by itself. The team:

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Hah, I remember facing this. Very solid team, and venomoth`s ability to either pass out sleep stuff really put me in a tough position

Groudon ex · Oct 10th, 2012, 9:12:58 AM

Pokemon Showdown! Username: pogeymanz mastar
Hall of Fame Standing: nope.avi
Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Charizard
Current Ladder Standing on Pokemon Showdown!: 1000

Heh, why not?

Dark Nikuman · Oct 10th, 2012, 9:29:47 AM

The pokemon I used:

Gothitelle @ Choice Specs
Trait: Shadow Tag
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature
- Psychic
- Thunderbolt
- Signal Beam
- Trick

Pokemon Showdown! Username: Whistle Baby
Hall of Fame Standing:
Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With:Gothitelle
Current Ladder Standing on Pokemon Showdown!: 2052

This challenge is very easy!

I'll start with another alt usin something standard and as a dark horse celebi.

**locopoke** · Oct 10th, 2012, 10:11:56 AM

Pokemon Showdown! Username: locopoke
Hall of Fame Standing:
Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Mr. Mime and Mawile
Current Ladder Standing on Pokemon Showdown!: 1000

Dark Nikuman · Oct 10th, 2012, 10:47:15 AM

User: darkhorsedboy
Format ACRE GXE Glicko2 W L T
ou 1761 84 1943 ± 129 (provisional) 8 0 0

I'll inish tomorrow the challenge with celebi.

alkinesthetase · Oct 10th, 2012, 11:31:29 AM

dark nikuman, i would prefer it if you registered BEFORE laddering. you also cannot change dark horses without changing alts as well (ie if your current alt is on gothitelle, you cannot switch to celebi). finally, you cannot stop at that peak with gothitelle, because ginga's peak with gothitelle is higher than yours and therefore his hall of fame position holds. if you want to hall of fame with gothitelle you need to beat his peak. same with celebi, who has been claimed by molk already.

ganj4lF · Oct 10th, 2012, 11:48:04 AM

Giving up on Dusclops. Also, I don't know if I will have time to attempt this or not, however...

Pokemon Showdown! Username: EvilGrin13 (can I reserve more than 1 nick? in case of hax streaks or similar events I'll switch to 14 and 15 :D)
Hall of Fame Standing: --
Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Poliwrath, Roserade, Sableye
Current Ladder Standing on Pokemon Showdown!: --

ClubbingSealCub · Oct 10th, 2012, 12:13:54 PM

Gonna try my hand at Hyper Offense

Pokemon Showdown! Username:ClubbingSpheal
Hall of Fame Standing: previous bronze
Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: PTERODACTYL FUCK YEAH
Current Ladder Standing on Pokemon Showdown!: EDIT: Left at 1970 with like 90 deviation, will continue later

The Great Mighty Doom · Oct 10th, 2012, 12:31:27 PM

I updated my OP and I now have the highest Glicko2 out of everyone who entered this challenge... unforunately I'm not in the top 3 on the ladder :( So, I'll have settle with platinum for now. I've now stolen Stoutland from Molk. And thank you very much to Birkal, ginganinja, alkinesthetase and Pocket for your amazing work on this equally amazing projec :)

alkinesthetase · Oct 10th, 2012, 12:44:58 PM

oh snap, nice laddering doom, you did indeed take stoutland from molk! blood is being shed in the hall of fame today, ladies and gentlemen!

Lady Alex · Oct 10th, 2012, 1:36:38 PM

Getting 1 point for a majority of matches is really stupid...

TropiOUs · Oct 10th, 2012, 3:14:58 PM

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Got to at least Bronze with the mighty shiftry for now(going for at least silver later).

Set used:

Shiftry @ Life Orb
Trait: Chlorophyll
EVs: 164 Spd / 108 Atk / 236 SAtk
Naive Nature
- Nature Power
- Sucker Punch
- Leaf Storm
- Hidden Power [Ice]

EVS explanation: 108 attack is to guarante OHKOing Latios with Sucker Punch in case I can't get SR up. 164 speed allows Shiftry to outspeed Scarf Keldeo/Terrakion and allow it to Leaf Storm before he takes a hit. The leftovers sp.A were for sp.A to pump up its special attacks and allow me to use his physical moves easier later in the game.

Moves: Nature Power is Obvious is the main reason I'm using it over Venusaur; it gives me a pseudo earthquake that is quite easy to fit for any Shiftry set, this is important because it eliminates Heatran without even trying. Leaf Storm is because Giga Drain didn't kill its main targets( Keldeo and Terrakion), and because it allowed to hide the fact that Shiftry was actually mixed. Sucker Punch is a cool move to have to pick weak opponents from ruining the fun for this guy. The Hidden power was mostly filler, but I picked Ice because I already had plenty of stuff to hit Genesect and bulky steel-types . It also helps me in preventing Landorus-I from trying to set up a Rock Polish and sweep me if I used a physical move earlier in the game.

I also wanted to use Growth when I first wanted to try this guy, but without using Memento with Dugtrio, this was pretty hard to do.

**Pocket** · Oct 10th, 2012, 4:58:06 PM

2 Platinum promotions by DarkBlazeR and The Great Mighty Doom, each time topping the previous Platinum challengers. You guys are impressive. Doom, don't f'n give up - Grandmaster is right before your eyes x_x

Ernesto · Oct 10th, 2012, 6:52:39 PM

I'm gonna try this out, but I don't expect to succeed greatly with it.

Pokémon Showdown Username: slowbrotest
Dark Horse Pokemon: Slowbro, Amoonguss, Rotom-H, Snorlax and Bronzong (only the last two will work for HoF)
Hall of Fame Standing:
Current Ladder Standing:

I wish Garchomp was freed so that Bronzong and Slowbro had more work to do, but I guess I'll have to wait for that

EDIT: I'm close to giving up, since Scarf Politoed's HP Grass went from doing 27% to my Slowbro to 94% with a crit, I don't know if it's the simulator or what, but when that makes me lose a battle it's a little beyond pure hax (which I can live with to some point). I had made an awesome comeback in that match and ended up losing after that, since I lost my Slowbro and therefore my remaining Mamoswine counter (I'd already sacked Bronzong to get a free switch in). I'm gonna keep trying because that strategy is amazing at changing games, but I'm pretty sure I won't be able to succeed with it in this metagame (not because of the strategy in itself, but because of me)

alkinesthetase · Oct 10th, 2012, 6:58:41 PM

all of them are legal dark horses, so don't worry - if you ladder enough, you can potentially take them ALL to the hall of fame. however some of those horses are up in platinum so it's up to you how far you wanna take it =P

also myzo, might wanna add the screenshot cause we might miss it the next time we go for a hof cleanup; i think pocket missed you this time around

here's one for posterity just in case

Master of the Six Kings · Oct 10th, 2012, 8:40:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Master of the Six Kings

Well, Zangoose is fun, but got tilted too hard around 1650, so i decided i'd try a few more games with Machamp til i moved on (tired of being lowest on the board xD) Got to 80th with 1886, so yay.

Proof/standing

Giving up on poor Zangoose for now, going with everyone's favorite number 0 Pokemon!

Pokemon Showdown! Username: VCreate-A-Pokemon
Hall of Fame Standing: None
Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Victini
Current Ladder Standing: Nope

Still need my rank upped from this. Also, i think the ladder may have been reset. 1793 is enough to be top 100 and as such my current alt at 1854 is at 59th. Should we wait til top 100 is fixed before reporting more games or what? Seems unfair given how crazy the ladder usually is. Ironically, my other alt is just a few under at 1833 lol.

**Pocket** · Oct 10th, 2012, 8:43:08 PM

Master of the Six Kings, I didn't update your rank, because then you would be ineligible for HoF :0 (your glicko2 is below 1950)

Ladder reset shouldn't matter, since you not only need the ladder ranking, but also the glicko2 threshold to enter HoF!

Master of the Six Kings · Oct 10th, 2012, 9:05:54 PM

Oh, lol missed that.

But still, i have 1957 glicko and only at 1854 im at 59. Seems too easy mode.

leproof

Sets/thoughts

Swampert @ Leftovers
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 204 Def / 252 HP / 4 Atk / 48 Spd
- Stealth Rock
- Roar
- Earthquake
- Scald

Mismagius @ Expert Belt
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 SAtk / 4 HP
Timid Nature
- Shadow Ball
- Thunderbolt
- Energy Ball
- Hidden Power [Fighting]

Initially, i set out to ladder Swampert, as he is an old favorite from Gen 4 OU, providing that perfect SR/Roar/Dual Stab set that is still viable but no where near as effective. When thinking of partners, i wanted a strong Ghost type with some specially defensive prowess to balance Swampert's physical oreination and deal with the more common offensive spinners in Starmie and Tentacruel. Gengar has as much bulk as Kiera Knightly and Jellicent made my mini-core super weak to Grass, and then I thought of Mismagus. Her high Quiver Dance stats and access to Thunderbolt let her counter the spinners i wanted, while Energy Ball and Levitate also covered Donphan. I wanted HP Fire to cover Forretress as well, but found Fighting was more helpful for better neautral coverage/T-tar etc, and even just firing off Shadow Balls and T-bolts could beat most Forretress.
I had general expectations for how the too would work, and included threats like Scarf Mence, Banded Scizor and Sub Terrakion to cover some major threats, and Starmie to spin and provide more Special attacking options but let me tell ya. Mismagius far outpreformed my expectations multiple times, filling my Spin blocking role perfectly, but taking out threats like Lucario, Latios, Tyranitar, Politoed and the like more often than i would have ever expected and completely shut down Deoxys-D and Espeons i faced. Swampert generally preformed how i imagined, but as i rounded towards peaking on the ladder, i was met with Energy Ball Latios, Grass Knot Infernape and Giga Drain, Expert Belt Genesect that really hampered the poor mudfish. Still, most games he preformed his basic tasks as well as i could've asked for. If Mismagius ever gets access to a decent special Fire or Fighting move, OU better watch its back.

I guess since glicko determines where you are and the number is arbitrary it doesnt really matter. I really enjoyed the laddering with Swampy and Mismagius. Wrote up my thoughts and sets and stuff. Gonna take some time to try and ladder a bit higher with both my Mons before i pick another later tonight. Going for the record on DH's achieved in a month (even if i lose some of them, i'm still counting xD). Although, there's Molk, so i'll prolly have to deal with second.

The Great Mighty Doom · Oct 10th, 2012, 10:25:30 PM

After some more laddering I have peaked #1 on the ladder!!! I have updated my OP with the screenshot. I may make a new alt later on and attempt to complete this challenge with a team of 4+ DH mons, but for now I'm finished with this challenge (I'll still take part in the discussion though.) Thanks again to Birkal, Pocket, alkinesthetase and ginganinja for the time they put in to running this project.

DarkBlazeR · Oct 11th, 2012, 2:41:35 AM

Pokemon Showdown! Username: Gojira
Hall of Fame Standing: ~~Grandmaster~~ Platinum
Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Deoxys-D
Current Ladder Standing: 1000

;0

Temp V1 · Oct 11th, 2012, 2:42:37 AM

Great work Doom, and congratulations on topping the ladder.

Oct 9th, 2012, 7:04:28 PM	#251
ClubbingSealCub Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 385 Spheal @ Thick Club	Okay, gonna call this round early for me (peaked at only 1730 Glicko2 :c ) because I'm getting like -20 for every loss and +3 for every win, and quite frankly, the last 3 games have been hax-plagued and I'm not enjoying playing this stall-ish team anymore. However, Shaymin is a god damn beast. Seed Flare demolishes pretty much everything, Earth Power brings down whatever Seed Flare doesn't and with HP Fire and Leech Seed there's usually one switch-in to you - Dragonite, and he doesn't enjoy taking Leech Seeds. Jellicent is an amazing pokémon, he pretty much shuts stall on it's own (except for the rare Sableye), spinblocks and is great against rain. Shits on Ferro too. Hippo is bulky as hell, we all know that. But his SpDef set is one of, if not THE best weather starter. Here are the sets I used, in case someone wants to give them a try: ... Jellicent @ Leftovers Trait: Water Absorb EVs: 248 HP / 44 Spd / 216 Def Bold Nature - Will-O-Wisp - Taunt - Recover - Shadow Ball Shaymin @ Leftovers Trait: Natural Cure EVs: 4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk Timid Nature - Seed Flare - Earth Power - Hidden Power [Fire] - Leech Seed Hippowdon @ Leftovers Trait: Sand Stream EVs: 4 Def / 252 HP / 252 SDef Careful Nature - Stealth Rock - Whirlwind - Slack Off - Earthquake I used them in a semi-stallish team with a RestTalk Shed Shell Heatran, Forretress, and the last poke alternated between AcroGliscor and SD Landorus for wallbreaking - and I have to say it was better than what I had originally expected. __________________ RMT: Dune Walkers - Featuring Sandslash Tobes: Infernape is still #22 in standard OU. You all sicken me.

Oct 9th, 2012, 8:47:11 PM	#253
Myzozoa Buffalo Soldier Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,106 It could be anywhere most likely could be any frontier any hemisphere	Played 31 games, went 25-6. 5 losses to Venemoth sleep powder miss. 42nd on the ladder with 79 deviation and 2039 ACRE. Basically Venemoth is a perfect passer to balloon Heatran or Keldeo, and my team was solid enough that I could win games even without a pass. Even when Venemoth couldn't pass quiver dance, it could still sleep something which is valuable all by itself. The team: ... Venomoth @ Leftovers Trait: Tinted Lens EVs: 252 Spd / 252 HP / 4 SAtk Timid Nature - Quiver Dance - Baton Pass - Bug Buzz - Sleep Powder Heatran @ Air Balloon Trait: Flash Fire EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 HP / 252 Spd Timid Nature - Fire Blast - Earth Power - Hidden Power [Grass] - Dragon Pulse Keldeo @ Leftovers Trait: Justified EVs: 252 Spd / 252 SAtk / 4 SDef Timid Nature - Hydro Pump - Secret Sword - Hidden Power [Ice] - Calm Mind Mew @ Normal Gem Trait: Synchronize EVs: 252 Spd / 4 Atk / 252 HP Jolly Nature - Taunt - Explosion - Stealth Rock - Zen Headbutt Alakazam @ Focus Sash Trait: Magic Guard EVs: 252 Spd / 252 SAtk / 4 HP Timid Nature - Focus Blast - Psyshock - Shadow Ball - Hidden Power [Ice] Hydreigon @ Leftovers Trait: Levitate EVs: 252 Spd / 252 SAtk / 4 SDef Timid Nature - Dragon Pulse - Substitute - Fire Blast - Dark Pulse __________________ The simplicity of the ghostlike beast The purity of what he wants And where it goes Always love Always loves you Always loves with, infrared love

Oct 9th, 2012, 8:50:52 PM	#254
Jobriq Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 58 In a Pineapple Under the Sea	Zebraiken is NU cuz manectric? Pokemon Showdown! Username: Loligant Hall of Fame Standing: I forget Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Lilligant Current Ladder Standing on Pokemon Showdown!: 1728 ± 83 Loligant (Lilligant) @ Leftovers Trait: Chlorophyll EVs: 72 Def / 252 SAtk / 184 Spd Modest Nature - Giga Drain - Quiver Dance - Sleep Powder - Hidden Power (Fire/Rock/Ground) __________________ (04:26:54) TryHardJobriq: why isn't kyurem-B faster than kyurem-W?(04:28:16) The Gr8 Mighty Doom: the chains on his legs are slowin him down %jobriq: :D <==I was driver for 5 seconds http://pastebin.com/RBk8rPHZ Bidoof<3 chaos: if im timestalled i go super saiyan Last edited by Jobriq; Oct 10th, 2012 at 12:41:29 PM. Reason: Update

Oct 10th, 2012, 10:11:56 AM	#258
locopoke indulges in unsavory behavior Moderator Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 2,744	Pokemon Showdown! Username: locopoke Hall of Fame Standing: Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Mr. Mime and Mawile Current Ladder Standing on Pokemon Showdown!: 1000 Last edited by locopoke; Oct 10th, 2012 at 10:33:01 AM.

Oct 10th, 2012, 11:31:29 AM	#260
alkinesthetase <MrE> SPIDERS /\/\;,,;/\/\ Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 696 <ala> canadabros is the strongest bros you can be Mentor	dark nikuman, i would prefer it if you registered BEFORE laddering. you also cannot change dark horses without changing alts as well (ie if your current alt is on gothitelle, you cannot switch to celebi). finally, you cannot stop at that peak with gothitelle, because ginga's peak with gothitelle is higher than yours and therefore his hall of fame position holds. if you want to hall of fame with gothitelle you need to beat his peak. same with celebi, who has been claimed by molk already. __________________ <%yee> i will summon a spider to kill alkines my massive mafia roles list

Oct 10th, 2012, 9:12:58 AM	#256
Groudon ex Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 148 Blighty	Pokemon Showdown! Username: pogeymanz mastar Hall of Fame Standing: nope.avi Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Charizard Current Ladder Standing on Pokemon Showdown!: 1000 Heh, why not?

Oct 10th, 2012, 9:29:47 AM	#257
Dark Nikuman Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 90	The pokemon I used: Gothitelle @ Choice Specs Trait: Shadow Tag EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd Timid Nature - Psychic - Thunderbolt - Signal Beam - Trick Pokemon Showdown! Username: Whistle Baby Hall of Fame Standing: Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With:Gothitelle Current Ladder Standing on Pokemon Showdown!: 2052 This challenge is very easy! I'll start with another alt usin something standard and as a dark horse celebi.

Oct 10th, 2012, 10:47:15 AM	#259
Dark Nikuman Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 90	User: darkhorsedboy Format ACRE GXE Glicko2 W L T ou 1761 84 1943 ± 129 (provisional) 8 0 0 I'll inish tomorrow the challenge with celebi.

Oct 10th, 2012, 11:48:04 AM	#261
ganj4lF Nobody is safe from the power of science! Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 688 Italy	Giving up on Dusclops. Also, I don't know if I will have time to attempt this or not, however... Pokemon Showdown! Username: EvilGrin13 (can I reserve more than 1 nick? in case of hax streaks or similar events I'll switch to 14 and 15 :D) Hall of Fame Standing: -- Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Poliwrath, Roserade, Sableye Current Ladder Standing on Pokemon Showdown!: -- __________________ Counter that Pokemon project: Mk III (over) & Warstory \| Mk IV (running) RMTs: The HOutsiders (also the other ones if anyone likes lurking my old posts) Take a look at this before starting an argument Not accepting rating requests anymore. Sorry! Last edited by ganj4lF; Oct 10th, 2012 at 12:20:08 PM.

Oct 10th, 2012, 12:13:54 PM	#262
ClubbingSealCub Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 385 Spheal @ Thick Club	Gonna try my hand at Hyper Offense Pokemon Showdown! Username:ClubbingSpheal Hall of Fame Standing: previous bronze Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: PTERODACTYL FUCK YEAH Current Ladder Standing on Pokemon Showdown!: EDIT: Left at 1970 with like 90 deviation, will continue later __________________ RMT: Dune Walkers - Featuring Sandslash Tobes: Infernape is still #22 in standard OU. You all sicken me. Last edited by ClubbingSealCub; Oct 10th, 2012 at 1:49:26 PM.

Oct 10th, 2012, 12:31:27 PM	#263
The Great Mighty Doom Tyger Tyger, burning bright, In the forests of the night; What immortal hand or eye, Could frame thy fearful symmetry? Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 597 New Zealand	I updated my OP and I now have the highest Glicko2 out of everyone who entered this challenge... unforunately I'm not in the top 3 on the ladder :( So, I'll have settle with platinum for now. I've now stolen Stoutland from Molk. And thank you very much to Birkal, ginganinja, alkinesthetase and Pocket for your amazing work on this equally amazing projec :) __________________ *VM / PM me for a BW2 OU Rate.* *Sharpedo Shenanigans - A BW2 OU Weatherless RMT* *Need help enhancing your battling skills? Get a tutor from Battling 101* Last edited by The Great Mighty Doom; Oct 10th, 2012 at 12:54:09 PM.

Oct 10th, 2012, 12:44:58 PM	#264
alkinesthetase <MrE> SPIDERS /\/\;,,;/\/\ Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 696 <ala> canadabros is the strongest bros you can be Mentor	oh snap, nice laddering doom, you did indeed take stoutland from molk! blood is being shed in the hall of fame today, ladies and gentlemen! __________________ <%yee> i will summon a spider to kill alkines my massive mafia roles list

Oct 10th, 2012, 1:36:38 PM	#265
Lady Alex So, I dashed all over the mansion, and I re-killed them; they were pretty alive when I found them Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 418 Stuck between a Stealth Rock and a hard place	Getting 1 point for a majority of matches is really stupid... __________________

Oct 10th, 2012, 3:14:58 PM	#266
TropiOUs Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 414 North Korea	... Got to at least Bronze with the mighty shiftry for now(going for at least silver later). Set used: Shiftry @ Life Orb Trait: Chlorophyll EVs: 164 Spd / 108 Atk / 236 SAtk Naive Nature - Nature Power - Sucker Punch - Leaf Storm - Hidden Power [Ice] EVS explanation: 108 attack is to guarante OHKOing Latios with Sucker Punch in case I can't get SR up. 164 speed allows Shiftry to outspeed Scarf Keldeo/Terrakion and allow it to Leaf Storm before he takes a hit. The leftovers sp.A were for sp.A to pump up its special attacks and allow me to use his physical moves easier later in the game. Moves: Nature Power is Obvious is the main reason I'm using it over Venusaur; it gives me a pseudo earthquake that is quite easy to fit for any Shiftry set, this is important because it eliminates Heatran without even trying. Leaf Storm is because Giga Drain didn't kill its main targets( Keldeo and Terrakion), and because it allowed to hide the fact that Shiftry was actually mixed. Sucker Punch is a cool move to have to pick weak opponents from ruining the fun for this guy. The Hidden power was mostly filler, but I picked Ice because I already had plenty of stuff to hit Genesect and bulky steel-types . It also helps me in preventing Landorus-I from trying to set up a Rock Polish and sweep me if I used a physical move earlier in the game. I also wanted to use Growth when I first wanted to try this guy, but without using Memento with Dugtrio, this was pretty hard to do. __________________ 16:46 <TLCNU> Esca literally is 2HKO'd by Stoutland Fire Fang

Oct 10th, 2012, 4:58:06 PM	#267
Pocket Bakuman ;< Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 7,170 Bergenfield	2 Platinum promotions by DarkBlazeR and The Great Mighty Doom, each time topping the previous Platinum challengers. You guys are impressive. Doom, don't f'n give up - Grandmaster is right before your eyes x_x __________________ Dark Horse Project: Conquer the Ladder! \| Word of Wisdom for Trainers \| Smogon Doubles: Let's Make It Official!

Oct 10th, 2012, 6:52:39 PM	#268
Ernesto Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 231 Santa Fe, Argentina	I'm gonna try this out, but I don't expect to succeed greatly with it. Pokémon Showdown Username: slowbrotest Dark Horse Pokemon: Slowbro, Amoonguss, Rotom-H, Snorlax and Bronzong (only the last two will work for HoF) Hall of Fame Standing: Current Ladder Standing: I wish Garchomp was freed so that Bronzong and Slowbro had more work to do, but I guess I'll have to wait for that EDIT: I'm close to giving up, since Scarf Politoed's HP Grass went from doing 27% to my Slowbro to 94% with a crit, I don't know if it's the simulator or what, but when that makes me lose a battle it's a little beyond pure hax (which I can live with to some point). I had made an awesome comeback in that match and ended up losing after that, since I lost my Slowbro and therefore my remaining Mamoswine counter (I'd already sacked Bronzong to get a free switch in). I'm gonna keep trying because that strategy is amazing at changing games, but I'm pretty sure I won't be able to succeed with it in this metagame (not because of the strategy in itself, but because of me) Last edited by Ernesto; Oct 11th, 2012 at 9:47:30 AM.

Oct 10th, 2012, 6:58:41 PM	#269
alkinesthetase <MrE> SPIDERS /\/\;,,;/\/\ Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 696 <ala> canadabros is the strongest bros you can be Mentor	all of them are legal dark horses, so don't worry - if you ladder enough, you can potentially take them ALL to the hall of fame. however some of those horses are up in platinum so it's up to you how far you wanna take it =P also myzo, might wanna add the screenshot cause we might miss it the next time we go for a hof cleanup; i think pocket missed you this time around here's one for posterity just in case __________________ <%yee> i will summon a spider to kill alkines my massive mafia roles list

Oct 10th, 2012, 8:43:08 PM	#271
Pocket Bakuman ;< Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 7,170 Bergenfield	Master of the Six Kings, I didn't update your rank, because then you would be ineligible for HoF :0 (your glicko2 is below 1950) Ladder reset shouldn't matter, since you not only need the ladder ranking, but also the glicko2 threshold to enter HoF! __________________ Dark Horse Project: Conquer the Ladder! \| Word of Wisdom for Trainers \| Smogon Doubles: Let's Make It Official!

Oct 10th, 2012, 9:05:54 PM	#272
Master of the Six Kings Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 791 Where soccer is the correct terminology and bacon isn't dishonest	Oh, lol missed that. But still, i have 1957 glicko and only at 1854 im at 59. Seems too easy mode. leproof Sets/thoughts Swampert @ Leftovers Trait: Torrent EVs: 204 Def / 252 HP / 4 Atk / 48 Spd - Stealth Rock - Roar - Earthquake - Scald Mismagius @ Expert Belt Trait: Levitate EVs: 252 Spd / 252 SAtk / 4 HP Timid Nature - Shadow Ball - Thunderbolt - Energy Ball - Hidden Power [Fighting] Initially, i set out to ladder Swampert, as he is an old favorite from Gen 4 OU, providing that perfect SR/Roar/Dual Stab set that is still viable but no where near as effective. When thinking of partners, i wanted a strong Ghost type with some specially defensive prowess to balance Swampert's physical oreination and deal with the more common offensive spinners in Starmie and Tentacruel. Gengar has as much bulk as Kiera Knightly and Jellicent made my mini-core super weak to Grass, and then I thought of Mismagus. Her high Quiver Dance stats and access to Thunderbolt let her counter the spinners i wanted, while Energy Ball and Levitate also covered Donphan. I wanted HP Fire to cover Forretress as well, but found Fighting was more helpful for better neautral coverage/T-tar etc, and even just firing off Shadow Balls and T-bolts could beat most Forretress. I had general expectations for how the too would work, and included threats like Scarf Mence, Banded Scizor and Sub Terrakion to cover some major threats, and Starmie to spin and provide more Special attacking options but let me tell ya. Mismagius far outpreformed my expectations multiple times, filling my Spin blocking role perfectly, but taking out threats like Lucario, Latios, Tyranitar, Politoed and the like more often than i would have ever expected and completely shut down Deoxys-D and Espeons i faced. Swampert generally preformed how i imagined, but as i rounded towards peaking on the ladder, i was met with Energy Ball Latios, Grass Knot Infernape and Giga Drain, Expert Belt Genesect that really hampered the poor mudfish. Still, most games he preformed his basic tasks as well as i could've asked for. If Mismagius ever gets access to a decent special Fire or Fighting move, OU better watch its back. I guess since glicko determines where you are and the number is arbitrary it doesnt really matter. I really enjoyed the laddering with Swampy and Mismagius. Wrote up my thoughts and sets and stuff. Gonna take some time to try and ladder a bit higher with both my Mons before i pick another later tonight. Going for the record on DH's achieved in a month (even if i lose some of them, i'm still counting xD). Although, there's Molk, so i'll prolly have to deal with second. Last edited by Master of the Six Kings; Oct 10th, 2012 at 9:48:53 PM.

Oct 10th, 2012, 10:25:30 PM	#273
The Great Mighty Doom Tyger Tyger, burning bright, In the forests of the night; What immortal hand or eye, Could frame thy fearful symmetry? Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 597 New Zealand	After some more laddering I have peaked #1 on the ladder!!! I have updated my OP with the screenshot. I may make a new alt later on and attempt to complete this challenge with a team of 4+ DH mons, but for now I'm finished with this challenge (I'll still take part in the discussion though.) Thanks again to Birkal, Pocket, alkinesthetase and ginganinja for the time they put in to running this project. __________________ *VM / PM me for a BW2 OU Rate.* *Sharpedo Shenanigans - A BW2 OU Weatherless RMT* *Need help enhancing your battling skills? Get a tutor from Battling 101*

Oct 11th, 2012, 2:41:35 AM	#274
DarkBlazeR Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 352	Pokemon Showdown! Username: Gojira Hall of Fame Standing: ~~Grandmaster~~ Platinum Dark Horse Pokemon Currently Working With: Deoxys-D Current Ladder Standing: 1000 ;0 Last edited by DarkBlazeR; Oct 11th, 2012 at 3:00:45 AM.

Oct 11th, 2012, 2:42:37 AM	#275
Temp V1 Movin' at the speed of life and I can't slow down Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 111 Australia	Great work Doom, and congratulations on topping the ladder.