Sandshrew

Feel the Aura · Aug 28th, 2012, 6:07:22 PM

Sandshrew

Stats: 50hp/75atk/85def/20satk/30sdef/40spe
Abilities: Sand Veil Sand Rush

Notable Moves:

-Earthquake
-Rock Slide
-Swords Dance
-Rapid Spin
-Stealth Rock
-Toxic

Thanks to the Dream World, Sandshrew has been blessed with an amazing ability: Sand Rush! This allows Sandshrew to outspeed the unboosted metagame with little investment in speed, swords dance up and sweep, use become a fast, bulky spinner. Sandshrew's greatest niche over Drilbur is its phenomenal physical bulk (28 with max+ and Eviolite), and so the ability to stay around longer and spin. Sandshrew also has access to STAB Earthquake as well as support moves like Toxic and Stealth Rock. Sandshrew is a great Pokemon in Little Cup- Discuss its potential!

Gengan · Aug 28th, 2012, 6:59:38 PM

Although RushShrew is good, Drilbur does this better because of its Attack (85) and Speed (68). Also, Drilbur can still use Eviolite and have decent defenses, although this set is very unheard of.

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Originally Posted by Fat OP

Sandshrew also has access to STAB EQ as well as support moves like Toxic and Stealth Rock.

Drilbur gets STAB EQ, Lileep gets Toxic, and they both get SR. Lileep would do a better job of Toxic + SR since Sandshrew lacks decent (or any, iirc) recovery and because Lileep's defenses, typing, and ability are overall superior, while Drilbur's EQ hits harder.

Nonetheless, Sandshrew is still pretty decent with Sand Rush now, so it's always usable if you want a change of pace in your sand team.

Also, did you get this approved? That was my mistake on the Elgyem topic >_>

Feel the Aura · Aug 28th, 2012, 7:03:18 PM

I agree, but Sandshrew is arguably a better defensive spinner. You could also use a double dance type strategy with Shrew and Drilbur.

And no, I haven't actually heard of that and don't know how! -_-
Hope that isn't a terriblie thing..

Gengan · Aug 28th, 2012, 7:05:20 PM

The Double-Dance thing could work! However, the best defensive Spinner is Staryu, so Sandshrew shouldn't really run much outside of a SD + 3 attacks set.

Shinji Mimura · Aug 28th, 2012, 7:39:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Feel the Aura

You could also use a double dance type strategy with Shrew and Drilbur.

You mean double dragon. Double dance is a Pokemon with Dragon Dance and Swords Dance on it.

This strategy worked in DW with Excadrill and Sandslash both with Sand Rush. Not sure if that'd transfer to LC, but it did work and is a good strat (albeit you're going to need to cover their 3 shared weaknesses)

comatthew6 · Aug 28th, 2012, 7:44:08 PM

Sandshrew, even if it does run an SD + 3 attacks set, is still outclassed by Drilbur. It's slower than Drilbur and doesn't have the same strength, and whatever physical defense Sandshrew has doesn't really come into play because its main weaknesses (Water, Grass, Ice) are mainly Special Attacks and neither will be able to live attacks anyways. Sandshrew is a nice Pokemon with a solid choice of defensive options, but shouldn't be used for offensive purposes as Drilbur is a better option and should be relegated to a physically bulky rapid spinner.

iss · Aug 28th, 2012, 8:30:06 PM

The only viable usage for Sandshrew is with Drilbur. Sandshrew weakens Drilbur's counters enough for Drilbur to sweep. The probem is that you lack support, so anything like Choice Scarf Snover or Choice Scarf Porygon will absolutely rip through your team. It also makes you much more dependent on getting and keeping sand up.

Also, please please please get these threads approved.

JillNess · Aug 29th, 2012, 5:10:49 AM

I am also an biggest fan of it.

Feel the Aura · Aug 29th, 2012, 6:46:11 PM

On a sand team it is a decent defense spinner- though I must agree it's best option is paired with Drilbur for a "Double Dragon" Strategy.

iss: Yeah, sorry about that, I had no idea. Will do in the future!

Superpowerdude · Oct 11th, 2012, 4:52:13 PM

Sandshrew is outclassed by Drilbur due to insignificant offensive stats when compaired to Drilbur. When Sandshrew is used offensively it is almost always with Drilbur to form "Double Rush" Where Sandshrew weakens Drilburs checks so he can sweep. Personally i dont really think Double Rush is that good. Because it can single handedly be beaten by Shell Smash Tirtouga as well as Scarf Snover and Porygon. These three pokemon can also beat Hippopotas as well. If you are looking for a pokemon to assist a Drilbur sweep you can't look past Magnemite who also happens to be a nice check to Choice Scarf Snover. However this thread is about Sandshrew not Drilbur. The only real advantage that Sandshrew has over Drilbur is his physical defence so he can take Mach Punch's and Sucker Punch's better.

Has any of you had succes with a defensive Rapid Spin set? Oh and Feel the Aura you may want to add some Sandshrew sets in the op.

comatthew6 · Oct 11th, 2012, 5:54:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Superpowerdude

Sandshrew is outclassed by Drilbur due to insignificant offensive stats when compaired to Drilbur. When Sandshrew is used offensively it is almost always with Drilbur to form "Double Rush" Where Sandshrew weakens Drilburs checks so he can sweep. Personally i dont really think Double Rush is that. Because it can single handedly be beaten by Shell Smash Tirtouga as well as Scarf Snover and Porygon. These three pokemon can also beat Hippopotas as well. If you are looking for a pokemon to assist a Drilbur sweep you cant look past Magnemite who also happens to be a nice check to Choice Scarf Snover. However this thread is about Sandshrew not Drilbur. The only real advantage that Sandshrew has over Drilbur is his physical defence so he can take Mach Punch's and Sucker Punch's better.

Have any of you had succes with a defensive Rapid Spin set? Oh and Feel the Aura you may want to add some Sandshrew sets in the op.

I apologise for bad grammer i am on my phone and i will edit this when i have time.

Sandshrew is a complement to Drilbur, not a replacement. Whatever Sandshrew can do Drilbur does better, but they are best paired together on a team for the most optimal performance.

Golgi Body · Oct 11th, 2012, 6:53:53 PM

Like everyone is saying in this thread, Drilbur does outclass Sandshrew in almost every way. Sandshrew could successfully run a defensive spinning set, but Drilbur with Eviolite seems like it does good enough in the current metagame. Like comatthew6 said, Drilbur and Sandshrew can be used together, like the Gorebyss and Simipour combo in NU. I'm sure that if Drilbur ever gets banned for any reason, we will see a rapid rise in Sandshrew usage.

Aug 28th, 2012, 6:07:22 PM	#1
Feel the Aura Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 29	Sandshrew Sandshrew Stats: 50hp/75atk/85def/20satk/30sdef/40spe Abilities: Sand Veil Sand Rush Notable Moves: -Earthquake -Rock Slide -Swords Dance -Rapid Spin -Stealth Rock -Toxic Thanks to the Dream World, Sandshrew has been blessed with an amazing ability: Sand Rush! This allows Sandshrew to outspeed the unboosted metagame with little investment in speed, swords dance up and sweep, use become a fast, bulky spinner. Sandshrew's greatest niche over Drilbur is its phenomenal physical bulk (28 with max+ and Eviolite), and so the ability to stay around longer and spin. Sandshrew also has access to STAB Earthquake as well as support moves like Toxic and Stealth Rock. Sandshrew is a great Pokemon in Little Cup- Discuss its potential!

Aug 28th, 2012, 7:05:20 PM	#4
Gengan Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 545 We bought boobs	The Double-Dance thing could work! However, the best defensive Spinner is Staryu, so Sandshrew shouldn't really run much outside of a SD + 3 attacks set. __________________ Pokemon LP Center \| My Analysis \| Best Thread 2012 \| Feebas, the Mighty <Gengan> .qm Will you marry me NOW? <QMark> Gengan: Eww, you're a squishy human. Of course not!

Aug 28th, 2012, 7:44:08 PM	#6
comatthew6 # fucks I give = lim(x-->0)[cos(x) - 1]/x Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,584 New Jersey	Sandshrew, even if it does run an SD + 3 attacks set, is still outclassed by Drilbur. It's slower than Drilbur and doesn't have the same strength, and whatever physical defense Sandshrew has doesn't really come into play because its main weaknesses (Water, Grass, Ice) are mainly Special Attacks and neither will be able to live attacks anyways. Sandshrew is a nice Pokemon with a solid choice of defensive options, but shouldn't be used for offensive purposes as Drilbur is a better option and should be relegated to a physically bulky rapid spinner. __________________ * BarackObama gives channel operator status to comatt6 * V0x get down on knees # of facebook statuses user: jumpluff has liked: 7 My purpose is clear. My targets - doomed.

Aug 28th, 2012, 8:30:06 PM	#7
iss perpetual semifinalist Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,977 sirndpt <3	The only viable usage for Sandshrew is with Drilbur. Sandshrew weakens Drilbur's counters enough for Drilbur to sweep. The probem is that you lack support, so anything like Choice Scarf Snover or Choice Scarf Porygon will absolutely rip through your team. It also makes you much more dependent on getting and keeping sand up. Also, please please please get these threads approved. __________________ "Mienfoo is a shitty Pokemon." - blarajan ~CHINCHOUS~

Aug 29th, 2012, 5:10:49 AM	#8
JillNess Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1	I am also an biggest fan of it. __________________ australian aviation air charter

Aug 28th, 2012, 7:03:18 PM	#3
Feel the Aura Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 29	I agree, but Sandshrew is arguably a better defensive spinner. You could also use a double dance type strategy with Shrew and Drilbur. And no, I haven't actually heard of that and don't know how! -_- Hope that isn't a terriblie thing..

Aug 29th, 2012, 6:46:11 PM	#9
Feel the Aura Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 29	On a sand team it is a decent defense spinner- though I must agree it's best option is paired with Drilbur for a "Double Dragon" Strategy. iss: Yeah, sorry about that, I had no idea. Will do in the future!

Oct 11th, 2012, 4:52:13 PM	#10
Superpowerdude A Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 907 Australia Mentor	Sandshrew is outclassed by Drilbur due to insignificant offensive stats when compaired to Drilbur. When Sandshrew is used offensively it is almost always with Drilbur to form "Double Rush" Where Sandshrew weakens Drilburs checks so he can sweep. Personally i dont really think Double Rush is that good. Because it can single handedly be beaten by Shell Smash Tirtouga as well as Scarf Snover and Porygon. These three pokemon can also beat Hippopotas as well. If you are looking for a pokemon to assist a Drilbur sweep you can't look past Magnemite who also happens to be a nice check to Choice Scarf Snover. However this thread is about Sandshrew not Drilbur. The only real advantage that Sandshrew has over Drilbur is his physical defence so he can take Mach Punch's and Sucker Punch's better. Has any of you had succes with a defensive Rapid Spin set? Oh and Feel the Aura you may want to add some Sandshrew sets in the op. __________________ #ratemyteam \| Smog Work\| Rater Of the Week \| RMT \| Dogbirds Join #dogbirds on irc!!! Last edited by Superpowerdude; Oct 12th, 2012 at 1:11:41 AM. Reason: ..

Oct 11th, 2012, 6:53:53 PM	#12
Golgi Body Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 23 We've got the right to live, fight to use it	Like everyone is saying in this thread, Drilbur does outclass Sandshrew in almost every way. Sandshrew could successfully run a defensive spinning set, but Drilbur with Eviolite seems like it does good enough in the current metagame. Like comatthew6 said, Drilbur and Sandshrew can be used together, like the Gorebyss and Simipour combo in NU. I'm sure that if Drilbur ever gets banned for any reason, we will see a rapid rise in Sandshrew usage.