5th Gen PRNG Help / Info - RNG Reporter 9.96.5, PPRNG 1.15.0 (Request in first post)

[Xerain]

Originally Posted by Fat voodoo pimp

Try setting a higher maximum frame. And it means you just need a new seed for that TID/SID.

Use whatever TID/SID matches the save you are going to use to capture the Pokémon in question.

Let me give some more details to make sure I am understanding correctly. One I have my seed and frame, I put those into the ID/SID manipulation tool, along with my desired TID.

In the search parameters I am putting 28 min frame and 75 max frame. For teh Date I am using either 11/x/2012 or 10/x/2012, because I want my trainer card to say I started my journey at some point after the game was actually released.

Of the results I pick one that stays Starter True because I want to try for a shiny starter (even though they kinda suck). It will report a frame as well as an initial frame, which I ignore because it is always wrong. Then I hit the displayed seed and start a new game. I enter my name and my rival's name, making sure never to hit 'no' to anything because I want to enter the game on the initial frame.

I then take the TID from my trainer card, and in put it into the Seed finder. If the Seed matches the one I used, I look at the displayed Frame and Initial frame. These are the real target frame and initial frame, respectively. If I push were to 'no' when talking to juniper to hit the target frame, then using that same seed I woudl get my desired TID instead of the one I just ran the test on.

Also of note is in the seed Finder box, I set the min and max frames wider than what I searched for. This way I'll still get a result telling me if I hit the seed or not even if the real frames are outside of the range I searched for.

The problem here is the value of "frame" Is always something really low, like in the low 20s or less (19, 22, 26, etc). The Initial frame is always at least 30 or 40, and is usually divisible by 5 or 10. <-- after further testing this line is not true.

Is this just flat out "bad luck?" Is there anything special about the default date that gives better results?

[Slashmolder]

Originally Posted by Fat Misdreavus

Were there variations in VCount with Japanese games on DSi/3DS? Wouldn't it be unusual for something like this to change for the international release?

No it wasn't but it's still possible. We'll need so more testing. I personally haven't seen any changes on my carts.

Originally Posted by Fat Cipher Admin Lovrina

These are the Timer0s I got in about an hour of checking on the Unova Key thing... What do I enter in my parameters? Which should I consider my dominant Timer0s/focus on getting?

I see 1105 more than anything else so stick with that. If you start seeing more of a different one change it to that.

[chiizu]

Originally Posted by Fat Teddiursa Bear

Oh the gender isn't abuseable? I have both versions so if it's not a female I'll just abuse it on my White 2 before it spawns I guess.

Gender is abuseable. You need to clear out the grotto and abuse the grotto generation process. There's a guide here for PPRNG, and I think there's another guide out there somewhere for RNG Reporter.

[masterbreeder]

Originally Posted by Fat masterbreeder

Whenever I try to close the RNG Profiles window of RNG Reporter 9.96 Beta, I get the same message:

"Unhandled exception has occurred in your application. If you click Continue, the application will ignore this error and attempt to continue. If you click Quit, the application will close immediately.

Access to the path 'C:\Windows\system32\profiles.xml' is denied"

When I click Continue, the window stays open, and when I click Quit, the window stays open.

The thing is, I can't even find that file or folder. I've tried redownloading the program, but nothing works. Could someone please give me some detailed help on this? Or at least a way use 9.96 Beta without having to save a Profile?

Can RNG Reporter 9.96 Beta work even if you can't close the Profiles Window? Just as a temporary fix until I figure out what's going on in the program.

Could my RNG Reporter 9.95 be causing the bugs in 9.96?

Can someone please help me here? I need answers.

One more thing; in Hidden Grottoes, is the Pokemon's Gender set when the Grotto regenerates, or is it resettable?

[Teddiursa Bear]

Originally Posted by Fat chiizu

Gender is abuseable. You need to clear out the grotto and abuse the grotto generation process. There's a guide here for PPRNG, and I think there's another guide out there somewhere for RNG Reporter.

If the pokemon I want is there I read you can only catch one, but if I defeat it do you know if it'll respawn so I can abuse it?

[Xerain]

Originally Posted by Fat Xerain

Of the results I pick one that stays Starter True because I want to try for a shiny starter (even though they kinda suck). It will report a frame as well as an initial frame, which I ignore because it is always wrong. Then I hit the displayed seed and start a new game. I enter my name and my rival's name, making sure never to hit 'no' to anything because I want to enter the game on the initial frame.

Wait wait, after typing all that out something's clicking. I only ignore the initial frame... the frame listed here is the correct one. When I do the test run, I use that to get the initial frame only... So I take the initial frame from the seed hit, but use that with the target frame form the actual seed...

If that's the case I've wasted waay to much time XD.

[chiizu]

Originally Posted by Fat Teddiursa Bear

If the pokemon I want is there I read you can only catch one, but if I defeat it do you know if it'll respawn so I can abuse it?

Did you read what I wrote?
Did you read the guide I linked to?

After you clear out the grotto (capture or KO the Pokemon, take the item, whatever) you can then abuse the process which generates the grotto contents, including which species of Pokemon and what gender it is.

[Teddiursa Bear]

Originally Posted by Fat chiizu

Did you read what I wrote?
Did you read the guide I linked to?

After you clear out the grotto (capture or KO the Pokemon, take the item, whatever) you can then abuse the process which generates the grotto contents, including which species of Pokemon and what gender it is.

So you can have multiple of one poke appear? Let's say the dragonite was already spawned. Apparently I can't RNG the gender at this point, and I read if I catch it the Dragonite won't spawn anymore. Is that last statement false, or is there something I'm missing?

[religiousjedi]

Originally Posted by Fat Teddiursa Bear

So you can have multiple of one poke appear? Let's say the dragonite was already spawned. Apparently I can't RNG the gender at this point, and I read if I catch it the Dragonite won't spawn anymore. Is that last statement false, or is there something I'm missing?

Where did you read that last part of your statement? Because it's false.

[Teddiursa Bear]

Originally Posted by Fat religiousjedi

Where did you read that last part of your statement? Because it's false.

Someone told me they read it somewhere, but thanks for the info I'll tell them.

[Iccirrus]

I've downloaded RNG reporter 9.96.1 for obvious reasons, but before I can do anything it tells me I have to set up a profile. I have 2 problems-
I don't know what to put in any of the fields on the right(VCount, GxStat,VFrame,Timer0Min,and Timer0 Max).

also, leaving these blank, if I click ok (which I assume is supposed to save the profile and add it to the list) it just closes the profile creator and leaves the profile list blank. Any ideas on what I should do?

Also, as a side question, using this tool is it possible to RNG for a Shiny stationary legendary with specific IVs and Nature?

[Deltablazy]

One question.


Why is the timer0 in "M black 2" a 3 digit hex (version 9.96.0) but is a 4 digit hex in the current version. I thought DS lite can only have 3 digit hex timer0 values.

[Hozu]

Things change with new hardware (read: games). B/W2 has a Timer0 of around 1100 (in hex).

[masterarab]

What kind of RNG do we use for the starters in BW2?

[Cefiro]

I found a seed that's on frame 81 in the time finder, but when I check it to find the initial PIDRNG frame, it is suddenly on frame 79. What's going on there...?

EDIT: Apparently the frame in time finder was the determinant one. Still weird.

[Silverwarp]

I'm trying to rng my starter, but without any first hand knowledge of the range of Timer0s that people normally see on White 2. I'm trying to do an educated guess on what it would be based on trying to get a pokemon over and over and checking its range of IVs and using the adjacent seed tool, but it doesn't seem to match anything.

I'm also wondering if the Standard Seed frame for gift pokemon advanced by 2 in B2W2 compared to BW. I noticed that difference in RNG Reporter, but I'm wondering if the skipped frame affect the starter pokemon.

Also, does anyone have a list of Timer0s that they get on White 2? I'm using a DS Lite btw, if it matters. Thanks in advance.

[The Agonist]

Originally Posted by Fat masterarab

What kind of RNG do we use for the starters in BW2?

same as BW1

[s3vere1]

Anyone know if the Intial PID Frame is higher in B/W2?

I ID/SID abused for a shiny on frame 57 (kinda low I know) but according to the wild poke I just caught the PID frame I start is 81???? I've never seen the Intial PID Frame that that high.

I caught it in Floccessy Ranch or whatever just after finding the missing Herdier so there aren't any roaming NPC's just wanted to know if it's just this seed or should I ID abuse for a much higher shiny frame.

Edit - Crap nevermind. Just remembered all of those Mareep moving around.

[Aryach]

Originally Posted by Fat voodoo pimp

Are you sure the Eevee is legitimate? And did you enter the correct ID/SID?

Edit: turns out it I'm an idiot, it had Adaptability, not Anticipation.
Thanks for the help anyway.

[Xerain]

Originally Posted by Fat Xerain

Wait wait, after typing all that out something's clicking. I only ignore the initial frame... the frame listed here is the correct one. When I do the test run, I use that to get the initial frame only... So I take the initial frame from the seed hit, but use that with the target frame form the actual seed...

If that's the case I've wasted waay to much time XD.

Well I finally succeeded. But I had forgotten to delete my save file first, so I've finally succeeded again!

All in all, durr. The "frame" not the "initial frame" you get from going through the beginning without advancing any frames is the initial frame for the seed you want to hit. So I needed to advance form 27 to 49 and not from teh '39' listed in the initial frame box to 49.

I found this out by testing the TIDs I got, and having the seed checker show me what seed I hit and what frame. I woudl advance 10 frames, and it showed the proper seed, but the current frame was 12 behind where it should be. Thus I figured it out the hard way.

HOWEVER! Something very strange happened. As I said earlier, I hit the seed, advanced 22 frames, got my ID, but couldn't save it. When I was going for it the SECOND time, the calibration was different. After 22 advances, hitting the seed, and checking the incorrect ID, I noticed the frames had advanced much higher than they should have... The 39 in the initial frame boxed suddenly started to be correct, and not the 27 I had calibrated to.

The moral of this story is REMEMBER TO DELETE YOUR SAVE FILE BEFORE DOING TID/SID MANIPULATION!!! It throws the initial frame off! And compensating for it is pointless because you can't save anyway!

[masterarab]

Originally Posted by Fat Xerain

Well I finally succeeded. But I had forgotten to delete my save file first, so I've finally succeeded again!

All in all, durr. The "frame" not the "initial frame" you get from going through the beginning without advancing any frames is the initial frame for the seed you want to hit. So I needed to advance form 27 to 49 and not from teh '39' listed in the initial frame box to 49.

I found this out by testing the TIDs I got, and having the seed checker show me what seed I hit and what frame. I woudl advance 10 frames, and it showed the proper seed, but the current frame was 12 behind where it should be. Thus I figured it out the hard way.

HOWEVER! Something very strange happened. As I said earlier, I hit the seed, advanced 22 frames, got my ID, but couldn't save it. When I was going for it the SECOND time, the calibration was different. After 22 advances, hitting the seed, and checking the incorrect ID, I noticed the frames had advanced much higher than they should have... The 39 in the initial frame boxed suddenly started to be correct, and not the 27 I had calibrated to.

The moral of this story is REMEMBER TO DELETE YOUR SAVE FILE BEFORE DOING TID/SID MANIPULATION!!! It throws the initial frame off! And compensating for it is pointless because you can't save anyway!

Thank you for posting! I had gone through the same thing you were going through. I also had finally hit my seed. Only problem was that I couldn't save my file since I had a save file already >_<

So now I'm trying to hit my seed to finally get my TID/SID.

[Jaden]

guys please help me
ive downloaded rng reporter 9.96.1 and when i open it it doesnt open or nothing happens?
note that the older versons works fine but why this not? i double click on it and then nothing happens
iam using win7 btw 32bit

[Musica]

Finally got my TID/SID combo wanted. >_> After a looooooooooong process of trial and error...

[coolbiz]

Originally Posted by Fat voodoo pimp

I mean, what you said didn't really make sense, so what exactly was the process you did?

I did it like a normal RNG abuse in black, standard seed.

[Musica]

Is there a possibility for a Standard Seed to occur multiple times? I mean a different date but still the same seed to hit.