Hardest Relative NPC - Page 4

Alice in Strings · Oct 12th, 2012, 4:56:13 PM

Protip: Don't give your rival the Tepig in B2/W2. The final battle against him has you fighting his Emboar...which can easily OHKO things using Flamethrower. Nearly wiped my entire team, though thankfully Gothitelle has such stellar defenses.

Antihaxxer · Oct 12th, 2012, 5:32:03 PM

Seriously ? I found Hugh easy in my Jap run

chuckeroo777 · Oct 12th, 2012, 8:29:38 PM

ELESA
In both BW B2W2 she just crushes my team. Emolga in general is just freaking annoying!
"Emolga! Drilbur, use rock throw!"
*volt switches to zebstrika*
Drilbur! Use mud slap!
*Volt switches to emolga*
FUUUUUUUUUUUUU...

Not to mention she can crush all three starters. Pignite and snivy fall to emolga's air attacks, and Oshawott of course is fried.
Plus, Flaafy is the Paralyze QUEEN
Not to mention in my B2 game, I was using Genesect as my main... and zeb has a fire attack...

DEMo_Gorgon47 · Oct 12th, 2012, 8:51:33 PM

How has no one mentioned Galactic Admin Mars' Purugly??? I mean seriously, wtf was that? "Oh ok, she has a Zubat, that is easy to kill *KO's, Purugly comes in*... WHAT IS THAT HIDEOUS BEAST???" And then it procedes to KO you with an insanely powerful Scratch attack.... It even manages to shrug off Fighting type attacks

Galactic Admin Jupiter in Eterna is pretty much in the same boat.

Alice in Strings · Oct 13th, 2012, 4:24:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat chuckeroo777

ELESA
In both BW B2W2 she just crushes my team. Emolga in general is just freaking annoying!
"Emolga! Drilbur, use rock throw!"
*volt switches to zebstrika*
Drilbur! Use mud slap!
*Volt switches to emolga*
FUUUUUUUUUUUUU...

Not to mention she can crush all three starters. Pignite and snivy fall to emolga's air attacks, and Oshawott of course is fried.
Plus, Flaafy is the Paralyze QUEEN
Not to mention in my B2 game, I was using Genesect as my main... and zeb has a fire attack...

But Drilbur is immune to Electric, so that example doesn't exactly work. Set a Magnemite in front of her, and Sonicboom to your heart's content.

Count Serperior · Oct 14th, 2012, 1:34:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Alice in Strings

Protip: Don't give your rival the Tepig in B2/W2. The final battle against him has you fighting his Emboar...which can easily OHKO things using Flamethrower. Nearly wiped my entire team, though thankfully Gothitelle has such stellar defenses.

This is terrifying since I am currently doing a mono-Grass Challenge run my my copy of W2
TT_TT

Aqua Tail Serperior for the win...! >_>

Green Thunder · Oct 14th, 2012, 10:38:43 AM

*spoilers*kinda but not really...

I had trouble with EVERY triple and rotational battle in B2/W2
especially at the later routes in the game.
like, there was this veteran lady with a kingdra, donphan, and skarmory who spammed eathquake and used lond distance dragon pulses to just terrorize me
;-;

TM13IceBeam · Oct 14th, 2012, 10:43:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Alice in Strings

But Drilbur is immune to Electric, so that example doesn't exactly work. Set a Magnemite in front of her, and Sonicboom to your heart's content.

Flame Charge 2HKOs and you can't paralyse zeb

:<

also i do remember having my psychic lucario zip past the rival's emboar or something

TorinWS · Oct 14th, 2012, 11:09:53 AM

I didn't think Elesa was that annoying in B2, i think i had Trapinch waste her team (bulldoze and rock slide)

As for Ghestis in B1, for me it wasn't the fact that hydreigon was a beast and took forever to kill along with most of my pokemon, its that that damn bouffalant was waiting behind it, and me not not knowing about its colossal attack with only my poor serperior to stand in its way

Diana · Oct 14th, 2012, 12:52:03 PM

It's probably not the hardest but it surely was quite tough: Iris in BW2 is actually really tough without the right Pokemon. She leads off with a Hydreigon that not only has Dragon Pulse but has the special movepool to hit everything that resists Dragon super-effectively. I wasn't carrying a Fighting-type which may be why I had problems here but it's still rough.

Then at the end she has that Haxorus... With Dragon Dance and a Focus Sash, meaning you're not just about to go in and OHKO even if you have something able to do that. I lost half my team to that thing...

Ugly Man · Oct 14th, 2012, 11:43:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Professor Science

I beat Misty's Starmie with my Beedrill, only one or two levels higher than it. I outsped and OHKO'd with Twineedle. (although one of the hits may have been a crit). Just saying.

The first time I played Red, I went with a Squirtle. When I fought Misty, Wartortle and Starmie had an absolute epic of a fight, trading bite for tackle. It as brutal.

I did the exact same thing in Fire Red and two shot the poor thing with Dark type Bite.

Foxoftherose · Oct 15th, 2012, 2:22:48 PM

The only two in-game trainers that have given me any trouble recently were Colress, because I decided that it would be 'fun' to go after his entire team with just my Metagross, and Elesa, because I never have anything to counter electric types that early, and Volt Tackle is difficult at best for me.
Whitney is always tough, and an overleveled Geodude is usually all that gets me through that battle.

Chou Toshio · Oct 15th, 2012, 2:54:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Professor Science

I beat Misty's Starmie with my Beedrill, only one or two levels higher than it. I outsped and OHKO'd with Twineedle. (although one of the hits may have been a crit). Just saying.

Too bad Beedrill sux ballz overall and there's no way I'd want to grind one to a higher level than Misty's Starmie, let alone feed it trainer experience to get there. If I'm going to waste that much early game time/experience, I'd rather invest it in a Magikarp, which will kill Misty and the rest of the game too lol.

TCskux · Oct 17th, 2012, 12:02:15 AM

Am I the only person who had trouble with the Galactic Admin who uses Purugly at the start of DPPT? :( That thing SUCKED

Vodoun · Oct 17th, 2012, 12:56:22 AM

I just battled Veteran Tiffany on Victory Road in Pokemon White,

and she sort of threw me through a loop; I had to use a few Revives.

Her Heatmor was a nifty counter to my already in bad-shape team;

she had Fire moves to counter my Serperior, and Shadow Sneak,

which badly damaged my comparatively under-leveled Lampert.

Count Serperior · Oct 17th, 2012, 1:32:39 AM

Ok, seriously, am I the only one who suffered this much against Cheren?
I lost 7+ times in my JPN copy, and barely won with a crit in my ENG copy.

[Granted I could've used T-wave/Growl spam Mareep but I had some self-imposed restrictions; doesn't change the fact that i got annihilated in my JPN copy]

I find it weird since my two younger brothers got past him like it was nothing. How come they didn't get destroyed by that Work Up + Tackle Lilipup and I did? So embarrassing...

Hemp Man · Oct 17th, 2012, 1:42:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Chou Toshio

Too bad Beedrill sux ballz overall and there's no way I'd want to grind one to a higher level than Misty's Starmie, let alone feed it trainer experience to get there. If I'm going to waste that much early game time/experience, I'd rather invest it in a Magikarp, which will kill Misty and the rest of the game too lol.

Yeah but Twineedling Erikas whole gym is fun as hell.

Magikarp is better in the long run though.

TM13IceBeam · Oct 17th, 2012, 1:48:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Count Serperior

Ok, seriously, am I the only one who suffered this much against Cheren?
I lost 7+ times in my JPN copy, and barely won with a crit in my ENG copy.

[Granted I could've used T-wave/Growl spam Mareep but I had some self-imposed restrictions; doesn't change the fact that i got annihilated in my JPN copy]

I find it weird since my two younger brothers got past him like it was nothing. How come they didn't get destroyed by that Work Up + Tackle Lilipup and I did? So embarrassing...

this was my battle against cheren
L11 Lillipup solo'd him

Turn 1:
Lillipup used Leer
Patrat used Work Up

Turn 2:
Lillipup used Tackle
Patrat used Work Up

Turn 3:
Lillipup used Tackle
Patrat fainted

Turn 4:

Lillipup used Leer
Foe Lillipup used Work Up

Turn 5:

Lillipup used Tackle
Foe Lillipup used Tackle

Turn 6:

Lillipup used Tackle
Foe Lillipup fainted

:/

**R_N** · Oct 17th, 2012, 2:37:39 AM

Cheren seems to have exactly two outputs:
1. People beat him with complete ease. Maybe they're lowering stats, maybe through sheer power, maybe through luck. There are no issues
2. People are destroyed by him. Repeatedly!

There is no middle ground

Count Serperior · Oct 17th, 2012, 3:21:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat R_N

Cheren seems to have exactly two outputs:
1. People beat him with complete ease. Maybe they're lowering stats, maybe through sheer power, maybe through luck. There are no issues
2. People are destroyed by him. Repeatedly!

There is no middle ground

My best friend and I were in the 2nd group then. What I came up with is the Mareep T-wave/Growl spam method, you don't even have to level up the Mareep.
I guess anyone else who's having trouble can do that too, it completely neuters him.

Slobroking · Oct 17th, 2012, 6:14:43 AM

Roxie is pretty hard (on Challenge Mode) without Magnemite if you chose Snivy. I lost 4 times to her. lol

Count Serperior · Oct 17th, 2012, 6:47:35 AM

I solo'd her and Burgh using Servine only, and I wasn't even over levelled.

What you need to do is Leech Seed, then use Growth a few times (...ok a lot) and use potions when necessary, then sweep with Return.

For Roxie I made Servine hold an HP-healing berry (the blue one), and an Eviolite for Burgh.

Good luck!!

Its_A_Random · Oct 17th, 2012, 7:06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat R_N

Cheren seems to have exactly two outputs:
1. People beat him with complete ease. Maybe they're lowering stats, maybe through sheer power, maybe through luck. There are no issues
2. People are destroyed by him. Repeatedly!

There is no middle ground

The last sentence is false; I had 5 Pokemon to take in against Cheren on Normal Mode, only won 2-0 after a tough encounter prolly because the three who fainted were under-levelled relative to the ones who survived, but w/e), Snivy & Lillipup so strong...Just saying.

tako · Oct 19th, 2012, 1:30:02 AM

i know this is going to sound bad, but the first big trainer fight after beating the elite 4 in white 2, you know the guy with the one lvl 70 pokemon with the uber stats? yeah he had 8 lvls on my highest guy and was faster than every single one of my guys and would OHKO all of them as well, rather than go and train til i could beat him i used up 45 revives stalling out all of his PP so i could finally keep a guy alive. really not my best moment there.

Present · Oct 20th, 2012, 5:47:49 AM

The only notable battle I have had in White 2 pre-elite four was against Clay. It outsped my lucario and killed it with bulldoze. I had to rebattle him twice because he kept critting my Dewott.

In the white treehollow, I had some difficulties with Boss Trainer Elie, as Claydol activated its quick claw and used rain dance, after which Omastar went on a choice specs swift swim hydro pump sweep. Samurott brought it down to red, but got 2hko'd and I had to sac some things to wear out turns of rain before killing it with Lucario. All boss trainers after her were much easier.

EDIT: The guy above me talks about N. I still have to fight his weather based teams, but I think 'they will not be so easy, seeing as he will have swift swimmers / chlorophyll users with boosted stab. Anyone have any bad experiences fighting him?

Oct 12th, 2012, 8:51:33 PM	#79
DEMo_Gorgon47 Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 307 You have to get good and lost to find places which cannot be found	How has no one mentioned Galactic Admin Mars' Purugly??? I mean seriously, wtf was that? "Oh ok, she has a Zubat, that is easy to kill KO's, Purugly comes in... WHAT IS THAT HIDEOUS BEAST???" And then it procedes to KO you with an insanely powerful Scratch attack.... It even manages to shrug off Fighting type attacks Galactic Admin Jupiter in Eterna is pretty much in the same boat. __________________ My CAB ASB Team My Pokemon Challenge Archive Join The Legend of Avatar if you are a fan of the "Avatar: The Last Airbender" Awesome battle between two great teams: Shout out to GarytheGengar who's team was the basis for both teams battling.

Oct 14th, 2012, 12:52:03 PM	#85
Diana Fennekin the cutest Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,258	It's probably not the hardest but it surely was quite tough: Iris in BW2 is actually really tough without the right Pokemon. She leads off with a Hydreigon that not only has Dragon Pulse but has the special movepool to hit everything that resists Dragon super-effectively. I wasn't carrying a Fighting-type which may be why I had problems here but it's still rough. Then at the end she has that Haxorus... With Dragon Dance and a Focus Sash, meaning you're not just about to go in and OHKO even if you have something able to do that. I lost half my team to that thing... __________________ C&C work: 34 done, 2 partly done, finished 4th gen moveset errors

Oct 17th, 2012, 12:02:15 AM	#89
TCskux Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 13 Sunshine Coast.	Am I the only person who had trouble with the Galactic Admin who uses Purugly at the start of DPPT? :( That thing SUCKED __________________ Black2: 4943 3321 3184

Oct 17th, 2012, 1:32:39 AM	#91
Count Serperior Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 131 Dubai	Ok, seriously, am I the only one who suffered this much against Cheren? I lost 7+ times in my JPN copy, and barely won with a crit in my ENG copy. [Granted I could've used T-wave/Growl spam Mareep but I had some self-imposed restrictions; doesn't change the fact that i got annihilated in my JPN copy] I find it weird since my two younger brothers got past him like it was nothing. How come they didn't get destroyed by that Work Up + Tackle Lilipup and I did? So embarrassing... __________________ Serperior :: Starmie :: Garchomp

Oct 17th, 2012, 6:47:35 AM	#97
Count Serperior Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 131 Dubai	I solo'd her and Burgh using Servine only, and I wasn't even over levelled. What you need to do is Leech Seed, then use Growth a few times (...ok a lot) and use potions when necessary, then sweep with Return. For Roxie I made Servine hold an HP-healing berry (the blue one), and an Eviolite for Burgh. Good luck!! __________________ Serperior :: Starmie :: Garchomp

Oct 12th, 2012, 4:56:13 PM	#76
Alice in Strings Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 249	Protip: Don't give your rival the Tepig in B2/W2. The final battle against him has you fighting his Emboar...which can easily OHKO things using Flamethrower. Nearly wiped my entire team, though thankfully Gothitelle has such stellar defenses.

Oct 12th, 2012, 5:32:03 PM	#77
Antihaxxer Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 335	Seriously ? I found Hugh easy in my Jap run

Oct 12th, 2012, 8:29:38 PM	#78
chuckeroo777 Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 77	ELESA In both BW B2W2 she just crushes my team. Emolga in general is just freaking annoying! "Emolga! Drilbur, use rock throw!" volt switches to zebstrika Drilbur! Use mud slap! Volt switches to emolga FUUUUUUUUUUUUU... Not to mention she can crush all three starters. Pignite and snivy fall to emolga's air attacks, and Oshawott of course is fried. Plus, Flaafy is the Paralyze QUEEN Not to mention in my B2 game, I was using Genesect as my main... and zeb has a fire attack...

Oct 14th, 2012, 10:38:43 AM	#82
Green Thunder Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 360 calm mind	spoilerskinda but not really... I had trouble with *EVERY* triple and rotational battle in B2/W2 especially at the later routes in the game. like, there was this veteran lady with a kingdra, donphan, and skarmory who spammed eathquake and used lond distance dragon pulses to just terrorize me ;-;

Oct 14th, 2012, 11:09:53 AM	#84
TorinWS Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 3	I didn't think Elesa was that annoying in B2, i think i had Trapinch waste her team (bulldoze and rock slide) As for Ghestis in B1, for me it wasn't the fact that hydreigon was a beast and took forever to kill along with most of my pokemon, its that that damn bouffalant was waiting behind it, and me not not knowing about its colossal attack with only my poor serperior to stand in its way

Oct 15th, 2012, 2:22:48 PM	#87
Foxoftherose Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 1 Alabama, USA	The only two in-game trainers that have given me any trouble recently were Colress, because I decided that it would be 'fun' to go after his entire team with just my Metagross, and Elesa, because I never have anything to counter electric types that early, and Volt Tackle is difficult at best for me. Whitney is always tough, and an overleveled Geodude is usually all that gets me through that battle.

Oct 17th, 2012, 12:56:22 AM	#90
Vodoun Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 33	I just battled Veteran Tiffany on Victory Road in Pokemon White, and she sort of threw me through a loop; I had to use a few Revives. Her Heatmor was a nifty counter to my already in bad-shape team; she had Fire moves to counter my Serperior, and Shadow Sneak, which badly damaged my comparatively under-leveled Lampert.

Oct 17th, 2012, 2:37:39 AM	#94
R_N Moderator Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,301	Cheren seems to have exactly two outputs: 1. People beat him with complete ease. Maybe they're lowering stats, maybe through sheer power, maybe through luck. There are no issues 2. People are destroyed by him. Repeatedly! There is no middle ground

Oct 17th, 2012, 6:14:43 AM	#96
Slobroking Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,203	Roxie is pretty hard (on Challenge Mode) without Magnemite if you chose Snivy. I lost 4 times to her. lol

Oct 19th, 2012, 1:30:02 AM	#99
tako Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 1	i know this is going to sound bad, but the first big trainer fight after beating the elite 4 in white 2, you know the guy with the one lvl 70 pokemon with the uber stats? yeah he had 8 lvls on my highest guy and was faster than every single one of my guys and would OHKO all of them as well, rather than go and train til i could beat him i used up 45 revives stalling out all of his PP so i could finally keep a guy alive. really not my best moment there.

Oct 20th, 2012, 5:47:49 AM	#100
Present Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 331 By choice or chance, you cannot control what you are not aware of.	The only notable battle I have had in White 2 pre-elite four was against Clay. It outsped my lucario and killed it with bulldoze. I had to rebattle him twice because he kept critting my Dewott. In the white treehollow, I had some difficulties with Boss Trainer Elie, as Claydol activated its quick claw and used rain dance, after which Omastar went on a choice specs swift swim hydro pump sweep. Samurott brought it down to red, but got 2hko'd and I had to sac some things to wear out turns of rain before killing it with Lucario. All boss trainers after her were much easier. EDIT: The guy above me talks about N. I still have to fight his weather based teams, but I think 'they will not be so easy, seeing as he will have swift swimmers / chlorophyll users with boosted stab. Anyone have any bad experiences fighting him?