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Old Oct 13th, 2012, 10:42:52 PM   #15801
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I need to clarify something on BW2 RNG:

1.) How do you define "first interaction with Lati@s?" is it when you first see it as you enter the dreamyard or before you battle it (since you have to catch it)?

2.) Can Reshiram/Zekrom be shiny (Dragonspiral Tower)?

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Old Oct 13th, 2012, 10:54:24 PM   #15802
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1) Once you take the last step to encounter it that's when it gets set.
2) Nope.
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Old Oct 13th, 2012, 10:57:33 PM   #15803
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So if I just caught Riolu and Munna on my dream radar, I can only rng one? Also, do you rng with the dream radar a 3ds?
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Old Oct 13th, 2012, 11:31:07 PM   #15804
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So if I just caught Riolu and Munna on my dream radar, I can only rng one? Also, do you rng with the dream radar a 3ds?
Yes, you can only choose one to RNG abuse. You have to send the data with the 3DS obviously, but after it saves the data to your BW2 cart, you're free to use whatever model of DS or 3DS to RNG abuse it.

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Old Oct 13th, 2012, 11:44:27 PM   #15805
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calibrating my DSi, I remember the last time I RNGed, it was 2 seconds behind, so when entering the exact time for calibration should I just enter the one on the clock (seconds included, of course) or should I subtract the two seconds?
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Old Oct 13th, 2012, 11:54:54 PM   #15806
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calibrating my DSi, I remember the last time I RNGed, it was 2 seconds behind, so when entering the exact time for calibration should I just enter the one on the clock (seconds included, of course) or should I subtract the two seconds?
When I say exact time, I mean exact time. So no, don't subtract two seconds. That's what calibration is for.
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Old Oct 14th, 2012, 12:28:04 AM   #15807
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I'm also currently trying to RNG a starter on Black 2 myself. I'm fairly sure the reason why the natures are all over the place is because of the wandering NPCs. I've gotten varying natures simply by waiting a couple of seconds before obtaining the starters whilst still getting the same IV's.

The characteristics also match quite high frames, around the hundreds. Unless I'm going completely wrong somewhere, is it possible for the NPCs to advance the frame that quickly after starting the game?
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Edit: Outrage is right, there are 5 NPCs in the area and this is why the results are all over the place. If radishes was missing his/her timer0 then he/she most likely wouldn't be getting those flawless characteristics, so NPCs seem to be the problem... Radishes, for finding your starting frame, try picking your starter ASAP (be really fast) and see what you get. Then, use this as your ssf and try again by saving the right amount of times. I'm not sure how saving in B2/W2 works, but if you can't save multiple times while staying in the menu (which stops NPC advancements) then RNGing a starter in B2/W2 seems pretty difficult, and not really worth it Imo.
Ah, I was afraid those NPCs would count as wandering, but it explains a lot.
I guess I just picked a difficult seed to determine starting frames for to begin with, as well - I used the generate adjacent seed tool to look at the spreads for the other timer0s, and turns out that the second before mine has a spread with a flawless attack stat and the one after has a flawless HP stat. So it seems the only reliable characteristic to determine frame my off of is 'Mischievous' on the current seed. Also, saving exits you out of the menu, so RNGing a starter is indeed difficult, unfortunately... though out of sheer stubbornness I'm going try a few more times and see what happens. x_x

Outrage, I'm curious, are you hitting those frames in the hundreds after waiting a few seconds, or is that right after you boot the game and talk to Bianca? I want to retry my process with a different seed but I've no idea what to shoot for, since it seems I've gotten from as low as the 50s to as high as the 100s depending on how long I wait.
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Old Oct 14th, 2012, 1:24:11 AM   #15808
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Does changing your Trainer ID/Secret ID with a save editor screw things up? I changed my IDs in Black and Diamond, and in both games when I tried to breed shinies, I got my Pokemon to hatch with everything on the target frame *except* for the shininess. I'm 100% sure that I entered my IDs correctly... am I just doing something else wrong?
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Old Oct 14th, 2012, 1:37:10 AM   #15809
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Does changing your Trainer ID/Secret ID with a save editor screw things up? I changed my IDs in Black and Diamond, and in both games when I tried to breed shinies, I got my Pokemon to hatch with everything on the target frame *except* for the shininess. I'm 100% sure that I entered my IDs correctly... am I just doing something else wrong?
don't edit your ID/SID.
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Old Oct 14th, 2012, 2:36:18 AM   #15810
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How are the Shiny Haxorus, Shiny Gible, and Shiny Dratini generated in BW2? Are they RNG'd like a normal encounter, or is there something else that needs to be done?
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Old Oct 14th, 2012, 2:53:44 AM   #15811
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How are the Shiny Haxorus, Shiny Gible, and Shiny Dratini generated in BW2? Are they RNG'd like a normal encounter, or is there something else that needs to be done?
Haxorus is a stationary, as for the other two I've got no clue, as there isn't any point in RNGing those eggs.
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Old Oct 14th, 2012, 3:24:22 AM   #15812
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Hey guys, starting up RNGing again with the release of BW2, and I've been using PPRNG to try Unova Link my parameters, and just making sure but would any of these be off? (Since I feel the Timer0 is incredibly high compared to what I've seen what others are getting)

T0: 167B-1688
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Old Oct 14th, 2012, 3:25:13 AM   #15813
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Question: Do I start at my initial PID frame when capturing Kyurem in BW2?
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Old Oct 14th, 2012, 3:28:23 AM   #15814
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I've been trying to do RNG abuse on my Pokemon White. It hasn't been working :( I've looked up countless youtube videos and read through the Smogon guide, but it still isn't working.

I'm only trying to get the IV RNG to work for now.

I calibrated the game, and then tried to use Time Finder, but the Pokemon I get do not have good IVs. What am I doing wrong? I'm following the steps exactly as written

Here's what I did:

1) calibration:
Saved at victory road
Changed DS clock to 10/13/2012 10:30
Started game at 10:30 + 30 secs, used Sweet Scent caught Durant, input IVs
Input mac address, selected version/language etc. in DS Parameters Setup
Pressed Generate
Saved DS Parameters in Time Finder

2) time finder
Used seed in time finder
Changed desired IVs to 31/31/31/31/31/31
Min/Max frame = 1
Allowed 3 keystrokes
Started game at the time specified, pressed keystroke
used sweet scent

System: DS Lite
Version: Pokemon White

Any help is appreciated. Thanks!

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Old Oct 14th, 2012, 3:30:58 AM   #15815
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Question: Do I start at my initial PID frame when capturing Kyurem in BW2?
yeah, unless there are WNPCs in the area (there aren't afaik).
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Old Oct 14th, 2012, 3:34:14 AM   #15816
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Ok maybe something went wrong with my RNG...

Scenario:
I used the same seed to capture a Reshiram at Dragonspiral Tower and using it again on the same game to capture Kyurem... I get the same IV's but the PID frame advanced (I think) since the nature is not the initial PID frame nature which I got for Reshiram... I'll try again hitting the seed anyway...

Thanks!

EDIT: Ok I found out that the PID frame for Kyurem advanced by 4 frames for my RNG... I don't know why since there aren't any NPC's on the area...
Captured a RNG'ed Kyurem anyway ^^
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Old Oct 14th, 2012, 4:01:03 AM   #15817
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Is setting up DS parameters for black 2 on a DS lite
The exact same as doing it for black 1?
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Old Oct 14th, 2012, 4:03:30 AM   #15818
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What is the earliest place in the game to Sweet Scent for calibrating?
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Old Oct 14th, 2012, 4:03:57 AM   #15819
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Hey guys, I had no trouble RNGing in DP and BW1, but B2 is killing me lol.

Just a questions about RNG reporter:

I've generated a seed for 31 IVs in every stat, for frame 1. However, when I go to adjacent seed checker, I see that it is in fact frame 3 of the standard IV seed which yields perfect IVs, not frame 1. This is the same for several seeds I have tested.

Does this happen because the standard IV seed starts on frame 3, and so RNG reporter takes care of this by making it frame 1?

Also, with Pandora's box ID/SID abuse, when you enter a frame to make shiny for a certain seed, it generates ID/SID combos which make the frame 3 prior shiny.

I am trying to RNG my starter (something I've done many times in BW1) but am having lots of trouble. I think it might be because of the WNPCs in the starting town.

Just wanna check also, does saving in BW2 advance your PID 1 frame still? Or has this changed in BW2?
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Old Oct 14th, 2012, 5:25:51 AM   #15820
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Is setting up DS parameters for black 2 on a DS lite
The exact same as doing it for black 1?
yes, unless you happen to have a Mac and PPRNG, in which case you can use the Unova Link to find your parameters.

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Virbank Complex (not the interior, just the one directly beneath Virbank City) doesn't have any WNPCs, however, the Pokemon are only level 10-12.

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Hey guys, I had no trouble RNGing in DP and BW1, but B2 is killing me lol.

Just a questions about RNG reporter:

I've generated a seed for 31 IVs in every stat, for frame 1. However, when I go to adjacent seed checker, I see that it is in fact frame 3 of the standard IV seed which yields perfect IVs, not frame 1. This is the same for several seeds I have tested.

Does this happen because the standard IV seed starts on frame 3, and so RNG reporter takes care of this by making it frame 1?

Also, with Pandora's box ID/SID abuse, when you enter a frame to make shiny for a certain seed, it generates ID/SID combos which make the frame 3 prior shiny.

I am trying to RNG my starter (something I've done many times in BW1) but am having lots of trouble. I think it might be because of the WNPCs in the starting town.

Just wanna check also, does saving in BW2 advance your PID 1 frame still? Or has this changed in BW2?
there are quite a few WNPCs in Aspertia (five or six iirc), so it's a bit difficult to get the right nature. And yes, afaik, saving still advances the PIDRNG by one.
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Old Oct 14th, 2012, 6:53:22 AM   #15821
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guys please help me
ive downloaded rng reporter 9.96.1 and when i open it it doesnt open or nothing happens?
note that the older versons works fine but why this not? i double click on it and then nothing happens
iam using win7 btw 32bit
any help guys :(
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Old Oct 14th, 2012, 7:36:09 AM   #15822
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Virbank Complex (not the interior, just the one directly beneath Virbank City) doesn't have any WNPCs, however, the Pokemon are only level 10-12.
That's fine, I can just send it to my White game and RC the hell out of it. Thanks.
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Old Oct 14th, 2012, 7:56:03 AM   #15823
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Ah, I was afraid those NPCs would count as wandering, but it explains a lot.
I guess I just picked a difficult seed to determine starting frames for to begin with, as well - I used the generate adjacent seed tool to look at the spreads for the other timer0s, and turns out that the second before mine has a spread with a flawless attack stat and the one after has a flawless HP stat. So it seems the only reliable characteristic to determine frame my off of is 'Mischievous' on the current seed. Also, saving exits you out of the menu, so RNGing a starter is indeed difficult, unfortunately... though out of sheer stubbornness I'm going try a few more times and see what happens. x_x

Outrage, I'm curious, are you hitting those frames in the hundreds after waiting a few seconds, or is that right after you boot the game and talk to Bianca? I want to retry my process with a different seed but I've no idea what to shoot for, since it seems I've gotten from as low as the 50s to as high as the 100s depending on how long I wait.
I'm hitting the high frames after a few seconds. If I talk to Bianca right away I hit a way earlier frame, around the 50s just like you. I don't think it's worth RNGing a starter now really. I just want to start playing the game!
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Old Oct 14th, 2012, 8:19:20 AM   #15824
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I'm hitting the high frames after a few seconds. If I talk to Bianca right away I hit a way earlier frame, around the 50s just like you. I don't think it's worth RNGing a starter now really. I just want to start playing the game!
I know the feel bro, but I eventually RNG'd a perfect oshawott. Just took for friggen ever.
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Old Oct 14th, 2012, 8:22:18 AM   #15825
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Anyone else getting a different VCount and Timer0 combo? I'm postive that I have hit a different VCount-Timer0 combo. The first VC-T0 combo I got was AD-1675 (getting WC Genesect), next was AC-1673 (TID/SID abuse), and now AC-1671 (been consistently hit for a while now while calibrating). I'm not sure if this is a problem with my cartridge or my console. =/


Other weird parameters I've hit while calibrating...

AD - 1676
AD - 1677
AD - 1679

Please help me to choose what I should really use =/
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