5th Gen PRNG Help / Info - RNG Reporter 9.96.5, PPRNG 1.15.0 (Request in first post) - Page 641

Sprocket · Oct 17th, 2012, 6:24:31 PM

After more testing, I was definitely bouncing between a few different Timer0 and VCount combinations, mainly:

AC - 1671
AC - 1673
AD - 167D
AD - 167E

So not only is Timer0 wildly fluctuating in BW2, but now you need to know if your VCount is wildly fluctuating. At least on a 3DS XL, I haven't tried my other DS systems yet. White 2 for the record.

I was definitely using EonTimer which at least helped me to hit my time consistently, but it was little help for me in hitting the proper VCount and Timer0 combo. Almost makes me pine for C-gear seeds again.

Ewokese · Oct 17th, 2012, 6:54:07 PM

Just a question about the encounter slot tables:
Is there a place telling us which location is which? I'm currently only seeing each place labled as "Location X" so you can understand it is rather difficult finding out which corresponds to where.

Cereza · Oct 17th, 2012, 7:28:09 PM

guys! what's the earliest location where you can find your parameters in B2? By that I mean, a place without wandering NPCs ^

Thank you ^.^

The Agonist · Oct 17th, 2012, 7:35:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Cereza

guys! what's the earliest location where you can find your parameters in B2? By that I mean, a place without wandering NPCs ^

Thank you ^.^

Virbank Complex (exterior). Though, they're like levels 10-12 :/

If you choose to wait a little bit, you can do it in Castelia's Park, which are levels 15-18.

Sprocket · Oct 17th, 2012, 8:24:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat The Agonist

Virbank Complex (exterior). Though, they're like levels 10-12 :/

If you choose to wait a little bit, you can do it in Castelia's Park, which are levels 15-18.

Virbank Complex would probably be easiest if you trade over a ton of Rare Candies and a Sweet Scent Pokemon.

goldursaring · Oct 17th, 2012, 9:13:06 PM

I can't seem to hit the right seed for Reshiram. I was able to RNG Genesect, but following the settings in Titan's RNG Guide isn't working at all. I might take a step back, and redo all my calibrations. Or am I missing some sort of change?

Hozu · Oct 17th, 2012, 9:16:54 PM

The seed period? Or just the spread you're after?

If you're verifying by Chatot pitch neither Dragonspiral Tower (both B/W1 and 2) nor N's Castle (B/W1) has random PIDRNG advancements.

**voodoo pimp** · Oct 17th, 2012, 10:00:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Cereza

guys! what's the earliest location where you can find your parameters in B2? By that I mean, a place without wandering NPCs ^

Thank you ^.^

NPCs have nothing to do with parameters :P

goldursaring · Oct 17th, 2012, 10:12:28 PM

I can't seem to hit the right spread in BW2. Have any of the settings changed, or should I keep following the guide and blame it on timer0 trolls?

I had no problems doing so in BW.

~~Paul493~~ · Oct 17th, 2012, 10:16:16 PM

Is there a way to know what your PID frame is? I'm trying to catch a timid Borutorso(thunder genie), and do synchronizers work in this game for roamers?

Hozu · Oct 17th, 2012, 10:24:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat goldursaring

I can't seem to hit the right spread in BW2. Have any of the settings changed, or should I keep following the guide and blame it on timer0 trolls?

I had no problems doing so in BW.

Probably just Timer0. There are absolutely no RNG advancements in the area.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Paul493

Is there a way to know what your PID frame is? I'm trying to catch a timid Borutorso(thunder genie), and do synchronizers work in this game for roamers?

Sync doesn't work on roamers. You would first have to hit the correct IVs, then you check PID via characteristic/nature.

Rocket Boss Giovanni · Oct 17th, 2012, 10:53:54 PM

OK, Zekrom/Reshiram are shiny-locked, but can Kyurem in BW2 be shiny? Or did GameFreak shiny-lock Kyurem as well.

Sprocket · Oct 17th, 2012, 10:55:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Rocket Boss Giovanni

OK, Zekrom/Reshiram are shiny-locked, but can Kyurem in BW2 be shiny? Or did GameFreak shiny-lock Kyurem as well.

I'm actually attempting to catch a shiny Kyurem to find out, I'll follow up with what I find out (if it hasn't been found out already).

**voodoo pimp** · Oct 17th, 2012, 11:26:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Rocket Boss Giovanni

OK, Zekrom/Reshiram are shiny-locked, but can Kyurem in BW2 be shiny? Or did GameFreak shiny-lock Kyurem as well.

Kyurem can be shiny in all games (and, if you're curious, Kyurem-B/W retains the shininess).

Sprocket · Oct 17th, 2012, 11:28:24 PM

Is it just me, or for BW2 is the initial PIDRNG frame not matching what RNGReporter says it should be? I've gotten some extremely oddball results. Crazy things like the actual PIDRNG frame hit being +30 to +100 from what RNGReporter says it should be, without NPC interference even.

Cipher Admin Lovrina · Oct 17th, 2012, 11:41:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat chiizu

Thank you for confirming that the legendaries are received before the non-legendaries. This is useful information for everyone.

Ahaha, no worries! Yea, when I used the transfer, the animation showed Landorus first, then the two Shuckles and the items. I can most certainly confirm that legendaries take priority for slot 1 and presumably so on and so forth.

goldursaring · Oct 17th, 2012, 11:49:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Sprocket

Is it just me, or for BW2 is the initial PIDRNG frame not matching what RNGReporter says it should be? I've gotten some extremely oddball results. Crazy things like the actual PIDRNG frame hit being +30 to +100 from what RNGReporter says it should be, without NPC interference even.

I think I've been having these issues too.

ctom42 · Oct 18th, 2012, 12:17:45 AM

Hey so I was having a problem in version 9.6.1 that I hoped would be fixed in 9.6.2, but it was not. After checking the development notes I found that the bug is known, the discrepancy between the main page and time finder frames for Wondercard. However it appears you do not know the cause and I think I have found it out. I edited my profile and unclicked the memory link checkbox and the discrepancy went away, the two frames matched. It appears the main page is not correctly taking memory link into account even in the black and white 2 button is checked. Hope this helps.

Manafii101 · Oct 18th, 2012, 12:29:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat ctom42

Hey so I was having a problem in version 9.6.1 that I hoped would be fixed in 9.6.2, but it was not. After checking the development notes I found that the bug is known, the discrepancy between the main page and time finder frames for Wondercard. However it appears you do not know the cause and I think I have found it out. I edited my profile and unclicked the memory link checkbox and the discrepancy went away, the two frames matched. It appears the main page is not correctly taking memory link into account even in the black and white 2 button is checked. Hope this helps.

I didn't have memory link checked and I still had the 2 frame difference so I don't think that's it.

On another note, how much do the NPC's advance the PID frame when going for a shiny starter in BW2? Do I just need to do it trail-by-error and hope I save the right number?

Sprocket · Oct 18th, 2012, 12:32:56 AM

I give up RNGing a shiny Kyurem in White 2, I just can't get a consistent nature even when I can hit the same IV seed repeatedly. There must be some underlying cause.

For example, seed 7E4BB60BF1219538. IVs are confirmed the same
PID no advance = naughty nature (RNG reporter says it should be Docile)
1 advance = Docile (+1 above Naughty, no problem)
repeat, 1 advance = Impish (+2 above the previous test)

tjtoot · Oct 18th, 2012, 12:33:22 AM

for the 2 frame difference, do i do 2 chatots less or 2 chatots more

Rocket Boss Giovanni · Oct 18th, 2012, 1:44:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Sprocket

I give up RNGing a shiny Kyurem in White 2

To confirm though, you were able to get it shiny even if you were having trouble getting the natures?

Sprocket · Oct 18th, 2012, 1:55:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Rocket Boss Giovanni

To confirm though, you were able to get it shiny even if you were having trouble getting the natures?

I can't confirm. Though if you really want a shiny Kyurem, it's easy enough to get one in BW1.

mew420 · Oct 18th, 2012, 2:03:41 AM

at what point are kyurem-b's iv's set? is it when you engage in battle just after it has fused, when you cannot use pokeballs? or in a later battle (i presume you actually get a chance to capture it further on).

Sprocket · Oct 18th, 2012, 2:06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat mew420

at what point are kyurem-b's iv's set? is it when you engage in battle just after it has fused, when you cannot use pokeballs? or in a later battle (i presume you actually get a chance to capture it further on).

The later battle, where you get the chance to capture him normally. When you capture him, he's just regular Kyurem at that point.

Oct 17th, 2012, 6:24:31 PM	#16001
Sprocket Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,487 Phoenix, AZ	After more testing, I was definitely bouncing between a few different Timer0 and VCount combinations, mainly: AC - 1671 AC - 1673 AD - 167D AD - 167E So not only is Timer0 wildly fluctuating in BW2, but now you need to know if your VCount is wildly fluctuating. At least on a 3DS XL, I haven't tried my other DS systems yet. White 2 for the record. I was definitely using EonTimer which at least helped me to hit my time consistently, but it was little help for me in hitting the proper VCount and Timer0 combo. Almost makes me pine for C-gear seeds again. __________________ Black FC: 2537-3042-2350 VGC2012 Analysis: Slowbro (Uploaded)

Oct 17th, 2012, 9:16:54 PM	#16007
Hozu RNGenius Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 1,181 Orre	The seed period? Or just the spread you're after? If you're verifying by Chatot pitch neither Dragonspiral Tower (both B/W1 and 2) nor N's Castle (B/W1) has random PIDRNG advancements. __________________ McGillicuddy's Bazaar - Hidden Grotto encounter RNG guide for RNG reporter - Emerald Egg PID RNG guide - Misc 3rd gen info - incl. Emerald frontier/Orre Colosseum, frame offsets - Free events If I CMT in your thread please respond in mine. If I really wanted a Pokémon that is more common than herpes, I'd get it myself from Pokécheck.

Oct 17th, 2012, 10:53:54 PM	#16012
Rocket Boss Giovanni Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 344 Viridian City	OK, Zekrom/Reshiram are shiny-locked, but can Kyurem in BW2 be shiny? Or did GameFreak shiny-lock Kyurem as well. __________________ SoulSilver FC: 1162 9116 7392 Black 2 FC: 0433 6091 3741

Oct 17th, 2012, 11:28:24 PM	#16015
Sprocket Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,487 Phoenix, AZ	Is it just me, or for BW2 is the initial PIDRNG frame not matching what RNGReporter says it should be? I've gotten some extremely oddball results. Crazy things like the actual PIDRNG frame hit being +30 to +100 from what RNGReporter says it should be, without NPC interference even. __________________ Black FC: 2537-3042-2350 VGC2012 Analysis: Slowbro (Uploaded)

Oct 18th, 2012, 12:32:56 AM	#16020
Sprocket Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,487 Phoenix, AZ	I give up RNGing a shiny Kyurem in White 2, I just can't get a consistent nature even when I can hit the same IV seed repeatedly. There must be some underlying cause. For example, seed 7E4BB60BF1219538. IVs are confirmed the same PID no advance = naughty nature (RNG reporter says it should be Docile) 1 advance = Docile (+1 above Naughty, no problem) repeat, 1 advance = Impish (+2 above the previous test) __________________ Black FC: 2537-3042-2350 VGC2012 Analysis: Slowbro (Uploaded)

Oct 17th, 2012, 6:54:07 PM	#16002
Ewokese Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 70 Derby, England	Just a question about the encounter slot tables: Is there a place telling us which location is which? I'm currently only seeing each place labled as "Location X" so you can understand it is rather difficult finding out which corresponds to where.

Oct 17th, 2012, 7:28:09 PM	#16003
Cereza Tastes Like Candy Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,143 Long Island	guys! what's the earliest location where you can find your parameters in B2? By that I mean, a place without wandering NPCs ^ Thank you ^.^

Oct 17th, 2012, 9:13:06 PM	#16006
goldursaring Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 43 NY	I can't seem to hit the right seed for Reshiram. I was able to RNG Genesect, but following the settings in Titan's RNG Guide isn't working at all. I might take a step back, and redo all my calibrations. Or am I missing some sort of change?

Oct 17th, 2012, 10:12:28 PM	#16009
goldursaring Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 43 NY	I can't seem to hit the right spread in BW2. Have any of the settings changed, or should I keep following the guide and blame it on timer0 trolls? I had no problems doing so in BW.

Oct 17th, 2012, 10:16:16 PM	#16010
~~Paul493~~ Banned deucer. Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4	Is there a way to know what your PID frame is? I'm trying to catch a timid Borutorso(thunder genie), and do synchronizers work in this game for roamers?

Oct 18th, 2012, 12:17:45 AM	#16018
ctom42 Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 6	Hey so I was having a problem in version 9.6.1 that I hoped would be fixed in 9.6.2, but it was not. After checking the development notes I found that the bug is known, the discrepancy between the main page and time finder frames for Wondercard. However it appears you do not know the cause and I think I have found it out. I edited my profile and unclicked the memory link checkbox and the discrepancy went away, the two frames matched. It appears the main page is not correctly taking memory link into account even in the black and white 2 button is checked. Hope this helps.

Oct 18th, 2012, 12:33:22 AM	#16021
tjtoot Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 229	for the 2 frame difference, do i do 2 chatots less or 2 chatots more __________________ charizard is the only pokemon who cried twice in the first movie, therefore he is the lamest. My Trade Thread If I put CMT in your thread, It would be sweet If you responded in my thread! <3 charmeleon

Oct 18th, 2012, 2:03:41 AM	#16024
mew420 Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 155 au	at what point are kyurem-b's iv's set? is it when you engage in battle just after it has fused, when you cannot use pokeballs? or in a later battle (i presume you actually get a chance to capture it further on). __________________ My Trade Thread Black FC: 0777 2539 7757 Platinum Scramble