5th Gen PRNG Help / Info - RNG Reporter 9.96.5, PPRNG 1.15.0 (Request in first post) - Page 643

Hozu · Oct 18th, 2012, 10:16:12 PM

Hidden Grotto encounter type. Setting the proper gender and gender ratio is VERY important.

Slashmolder · Oct 18th, 2012, 10:21:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Cefiro

Wow, I didn't even know this. Being in a different fraction of your target second can offset Timer0s or something?
Will keep in mind for the future.

To some degree yes but don't count on it.

Rocket Boss Giovanni · Oct 18th, 2012, 10:21:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Hozu

Hidden Grotto encounter type. Setting the proper gender and gender ratio is VERY important.

No I mean once the Pokemon has spawned in the Grotto. I haven't quite figured out how to RNG the regeneration of the Hidden Grotto, what I meant was once the Pokemon has spawned there is it a stationary encounter?

The Agonist · Oct 18th, 2012, 10:30:02 PM

it has it's own type of encounter, but yes, it's RNGed like a stationary.

Cereza · Oct 18th, 2012, 10:35:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat voodoo pimp

NPCs have nothing to do with parameters :P

so that means I could perfectly find my parameters in a place such as route 5?

Belle · Oct 18th, 2012, 10:39:34 PM

Two more questions:

- If I activated Memory Link, do I check Memory Link in Time Finder?
- Does saving the game still advance the PIDRNG by 1?

Thank you again!

**voodoo pimp** · Oct 18th, 2012, 10:41:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Rocket Boss Giovanni

No I mean once the Pokemon has spawned in the Grotto. I haven't quite figured out how to RNG the regeneration of the Hidden Grotto, what I meant was once the Pokemon has spawned there is it a stationary encounter?

Gender and gender ratio matter even after you've spawned it, because they affect the PID. It also has its own encounter type - it's only similar to a regular stationary in that there are no encounter slots and the IVs/nature are set when you talk to it.

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Originally Posted by Fat Cereza

so that means I could perfectly find my parameters in a place such as route 5?

Right. All that matters is the IVs.

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Originally Posted by Fat Belle

Two more questions:

- If I activated Memory Link, do I check Memory Link in Time Finder?
- Does saving the game still advance the PIDRNG by 1?

Thank you again!

It should be in your profile, not Time Finder, and yes.

Manafii101 · Oct 18th, 2012, 11:22:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Manafii101

On another note, how much do the NPC's advance the PID frame when going for a shiny starter in BW2? Do I just need to do it trail-by-error and hope I save the right number?

My initial PID frame is 48 I think, and my Shiny target is 60. Will the NPC's advance it past my target?

Cefiro · Oct 19th, 2012, 12:07:49 AM

Wait, for Hidden Groto the IVs and Pokemon are set ahead of time so you can't RNG them?

Then what is the point of RNGing in the Hidden Groto at all?

**voodoo pimp** · Oct 19th, 2012, 12:14:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Cefiro

Wait, for Hidden Groto the IVs and Pokemon are set ahead of time so you can't RNG them?

Then what is the point of RNGing in the Hidden Groto at all?

The species and gender are set ahead of time, but you can RNG them right after emptying the grotto. The IVs and nature are set when you encounter it (like a stationary).

Cefiro · Oct 19th, 2012, 12:19:02 AM

Oh, so you CAN RNG the IV and nature upon encounter; cool.
How hard is it to RNG the species you want?

Also, is the gift Evee RNG-able, or do the CPUs screw you up?

**voodoo pimp** · Oct 19th, 2012, 12:22:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Cefiro

Oh, so you CAN RNG the IV and nature upon encounter; cool.
How hard is it to RNG the species you want?

Also, is the gift Evee RNG-able, or do the CPUs screw you up?

RNGing the species is exactly as hard as RNGing anything else in a NPC-free area (read: not hard at all unless Timer0 really hates you), and it only takes a few seconds to find a seed so it's a lot faster as well.

I don't know if there are wandering NPCs in Eevee's area, but even if there are you can still do it, you just have to account for their advances (through either trial and error or Chatot pitches).

Rocket Boss Giovanni · Oct 19th, 2012, 12:42:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat voodoo pimp

The species and gender are set ahead of time, but you can RNG them right after emptying the grotto. The IVs and nature are set when you encounter it (like a stationary).

So I put this in Time Finder to generate the IVs

In the main window of RNG Reporter, do I use the Encounter type of Stationary Pokemon or Hidden Grotto. Sorry in advance about all the questions, I want to make sure I'm doing this right.

OR

Slashmolder · Oct 19th, 2012, 12:53:59 AM

Encounter type is Hidden Grotto.

Cefiro · Oct 19th, 2012, 12:58:10 AM

So you empty the room, save, then you RNG when in the groto?
And that generates what you want?

**voodoo pimp** · Oct 19th, 2012, 1:12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Cefiro

So you empty the room, save, then you RNG when in the groto?
And that generates what you want?

That's right. Save immediately after emptying it (after either picking up the item or battling the Pokémon), then hit your seed and walk 256 steps. Leave the grotto, come back in, and you should see the Pokémon you want. If you don't see it, then either you hit the wrong Timer0 or you made a mistake somewhere.

nico209 · Oct 19th, 2012, 7:37:16 AM

im waiting for a RNG Reporter which supports german black/white 2, too. pls give it to me

Roflumilast · Oct 19th, 2012, 7:42:48 AM

So I tried to reset my TID. I ran some tests: I started the game on 19.10.2012 @ 13:30:25, new game. I check my TID and use it in the Pandora's Box to "Find Seed Hit". It says Frame 25, Initial Frame 38, Time 13:30:33.

How is this even possible? I know how to hit the second, I have done it countless times before. But everytime I do the above mentioned procedure, I get a time, that's a random number of seconds late, the initial Frame varies between 26 und 38 and how can the Frame even be lower than the Initial Frame?

I checked my timer0 and it's almost consistently 1635. Sometimes 1634. But that's not the problem.

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Originally Posted by Fat nico209

im waiting for a RNG Reporter which supports german black/white 2, too. pls give it to me

As far as I know german white 2 is supported now. (If not, this could explain my problems...)

mew420 · Oct 19th, 2012, 7:54:08 AM

hey guys. i just rng'ed a flawless timid genesect, and am now restarting my game to for other natures.

what i was wondering is if the parameters would stay the same on the new save file, or will i need to recalibrate?

nico209 · Oct 19th, 2012, 8:05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Roflumilast

As far as I know german white 2 is supported now. (If not, this could explain my problems...)

there is a german option, and there are other european options, too, but if u choose it and want it to say your seed, it doesnt work, because there comes a probleme of "RNG Reporter doenst work". if u try it with japanese(for example) ,it will work. i've already tried it out.

LudwiG · Oct 19th, 2012, 8:54:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Cefiro

Wow, I didn't even know this. Being in a different fraction of your target second can offset Timer0s or something?
Will keep in mind for the future.

I almost always hit my Timer0 when I press A exactly when the seconds change to one before my target and always never hit it when I press A at another time.

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Originally Posted by Fat Manafii101

My initial PID frame is 48 I think, and my Shiny target is 60. Will the NPC's advance it past my target?

If the NPC is running and you are using sweet scent, it should advance the PIDRNG in the area of 20-25 frames. If it's just random turning and/or a few steps, it's a lot less.

kiddu · Oct 19th, 2012, 9:56:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat nico209

there is a german option, and there are other european options, too, but if u choose it and want it to say your seed, it doesnt work, because there comes a probleme of "RNG Reporter doenst work". if u try it with japanese(for example) ,it will work. i've already tried it out.

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The Agonist · Oct 19th, 2012, 10:30:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat LudwiG

I almost always hit my Timer0 when I press A exactly when the seconds change to one before my target and always never hit it when I press A at another time.

If the NPC is running and you are using sweet scent, it should advance the PIDRNG in the area of 20-25 frames. If it's just random turning and/or a few steps, it's a lot less.

Just a nitpick, but if the NPC is moving in a set pattern, there isn't any PIDRNG advancement.

Onicon · Oct 19th, 2012, 11:31:10 AM

We have our problems with a few of the page's instructions:

Abount advancing the IV frame:

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Move 128 steps with # Pokemon in your party.

So turns technically aren't steps, are they?
Edit: I forgot to ask whether there is a difference between going and running.

About advancing the PID frame:

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Walking or turning in an area with wild Pokemon increases frame advances 2 per step.

Do we understand correctly? When we are moving in an area with no wild Pokemon like on the top of the Dragonspiral Tower, the PID frame will not be advanced?

xShinji · Oct 19th, 2012, 11:45:51 AM

*a quick question* is initial timer0 for 3DS XL differ from 3DS??

If not ...so the current RNG reporter cant generate correct timer0 for 3DS XL?

Everytime I check my timer0 ... it is the same...*concise?*

but terrakion stats chgs everytime as well as the seed....

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Cefiro Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 140	Oh, so you CAN RNG the IV and nature upon encounter; cool. How hard is it to RNG the species you want? Also, is the gift Evee RNG-able, or do the CPUs screw you up? __________________ Pokemon Diamond Friend Code: 1678 2454 2881

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Belle Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 19	Two more questions: - If I activated Memory Link, do I check Memory Link in Time Finder? - Does saving the game still advance the PIDRNG by 1? Thank you again!

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Cefiro Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 140	So you empty the room, save, then you RNG when in the groto? And that generates what you want? __________________ Pokemon Diamond Friend Code: 1678 2454 2881

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nico209 Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4	im waiting for a RNG Reporter which supports german black/white 2, too. pls give it to me

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mew420 Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 155 au	hey guys. i just rng'ed a flawless timid genesect, and am now restarting my game to for other natures. what i was wondering is if the parameters would stay the same on the new save file, or will i need to recalibrate? __________________ My Trade Thread Black FC: 0777 2539 7757 Platinum Scramble

Oct 19th, 2012, 11:45:51 AM	#16075
xShinji Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 7	a quick question is initial timer0 for 3DS XL differ from 3DS?? If not ...so the current RNG reporter cant generate correct timer0 for 3DS XL? Everytime I check my timer0 ... it is the same...concise? but terrakion stats chgs everytime as well as the seed.... Last edited by xShinji; Oct 19th, 2012 at 11:57:36 AM.