Pokémon Black/White in-game discussion

[TM13IceBeam]

its true krookodile > scrafty, but scraggy > sandile, since the latter has bad moves and he doesn't have any existing STABs (outside of maybe dig, i think you get it in the same place?)

also blitzle does better against elesa because
1. occasionally AI fucks up and uses an electric attack on you giving you free spa/spe boost, while it never does that on sandile because its already immune
2. blitzle can paralyse emolga so even if it dies it makes beating them a lot easier

[Progeusz]

All monkeys are horrible. They learn Acrobatics (their only, or one of two decent attacks) at late lv 31 when everything in wild grass one/two shots them.
Sandile has Bite when you catch it, you get Dig and Rock Tomb at that time too. Sandile also learns Crunch just before evolving. Scraggy is slow and has to wait till 39 for evolution. I think Sandile is better in-game.
That's true, Blitzle is better vs Elesa (Sandile dies too fast to Flying attacks and Rock Tomb has shaky accuracy) but fails to be really useful after Skyla.

Agree with Stoutland being great, very solid mon. His Return is strong because you train him since lv 2-4.

[TM13IceBeam]

Scraggy has better STABs (Faint Attack then gets Brick Break/Payback shortly) while making better use of Eviolite. Stoutland is great but imo he does have issues midgame where he kind of gets stale (idk, but it happens for me) and ends up getting ditched for Deerling or some other scrub.

As for the monkeys, imo Panpour is somewhat salvageable because of Scald, but it requires you to use a shit starter (Snivy).

[PrimeMinister]

Originally Posted by Fat TM13IceBeam

As for the monkeys, imo Panpour is somewhat salvageable because of Scald, but it requires you to use a shit starter (Snivy).

No, panpour is not, because simipour looks like a gay fish monkey.

I've noticed that although it evolves very late, bisharp is incredible in-game. Excellent typing and atk.

Is Emboar or samurott better? I can't decide, but Im leaning towards Emboar.

[diamondfan1910]

Yeah, I'd like to know which starter people prefer too. I used Oshawott and found it pretty useful, it has a good movepool (especially considering how poor Snivy and Tepig's pools of useful moves are) and Razor Shell is really fun when you get it. He keeps his use later in the game too, since Samurott gets some insanely strong moves such as Megahorn and Revenge. Emboar, on the other hand, learns 1 Fighting attack levelling up (arm thrust lololol) and doesn't have access to another until the Brick Break TM in Icirrus IIRC. His Fire STABs are really weird too; Flame Charge is useful but very weak, Heat Crash is unreliable and Flamethrower comes really late and also uses Emboar's lower offensive stat. Flare Blitz at 62 is way too late for the main story and it has recoil anyway, which is a bit undesirable (though not crippling in-game due to item spam). The thing is though, Fighting STAB absolutely destroys Unova due to the multitude of Darks and Normals used not only by Plasma Grunts but also normal trainers. This alone makes Tepig usable in my book (since a 3-hit Arm Thrust is usually enough to OHKO) and the added usefulness in Pinwheel, around Icirrus and against Lenora is just a bonus. So yeah, which do you guys prefer, Oshawott or Tepig?

[TM13IceBeam]

Oshawott > Tepig, but Tepig's advantages also cannot be overlooked: Flame Charge is great and helps his speed issues (heat crash sux btw). For what it's worth, Emboar can also use Scald.

[Akaigo]

My in game teams are as follows:
Darmanitan / Lilligant / Samurott / Excadrill

I tend to teach at least 1 HM move to each Pokemon, but I'm still trying to figure out a good Flying type. What do you think is the better flier in game?
Archeops / Golurk / Unfezant / Braviary / Mandibuzz / Swanna?
I'm leaning towards Braviary.

[Purimpopoie]

Originally Posted by Fat Akaigo

My in game teams are as follows:
Darmanitan / Lilligant / Samurott / Excadrill

I tend to teach at least 1 HM move to each Pokemon, but I'm still trying to figure out a good Flying type. What do you think is the better flier in game?
Archeops / Golurk / Unfezant / Braviary / Mandibuzz / Swanna?
I'm leaning towards Braviary.

Of the ones listed, I'd go with Archeops. It comes pretty early and can probably hit hard if it's not in Defeatist range. Golurk and Swanna, I think, can be good, too, but Unfezant's stats aren't matched well with the moves it learns and Braviary/Mandibuzz come much too late ingame (right before the Elite Four) to be of much use.

[MB Espeon]

Golurk's pretty cool. It can take some pretty strong hits (I recall using it to take a hit and still have the chance to attack attack a certain endgame fossil...) and it's pretty beefy as well.

It got some good use on some of the elite 4 as well (More than I should have, maybe)

I don't know how it compares, really, but just throwing in my two cents. No idea how good Golurk is but I wouldn't call it bad.

There is the problem of not having Golett until after seven gyms, though. And then longer to evolve it.

[Mhai]

I like these games because of the HM-like TMs :)

[Rajaion Tagami]

The problem I've had with Tepig and Snivy is that they're severely outclassed by just about every pre-E4 fire and grass type (except for Monkeys, Heatmor, Maractus, and arguably Foongus). Liligant and Darmanitan are two of the best Pokemon in-game, Leavanny has a better offenses and a nice Bug STAB for the E4, Whimsicott is just fun, Sawsbuck has a better movepool, Ferrothorn hits hard and has a great defensive typing, and Chandelure has nice immunities and hits absurdly hard.