The CAP Kitchen: Non-Competitive Discussion Goes Here

[Deck Knight]

Originally Posted by Fat capefeather

Weirdly enough, the only Pokémon with No Guard and Close Combat is the Machamp line, which gets STAB on it. Pinsir gets non-STAB Close Combat, though.

Staraptor also gets non-STAB Close Combat, and it's the reason it got shunted to BL in Gen 4 because Brave Bird + Close Combat nuked the metagame - it was also quite popular in ALL CAP since it was quite adept at wiping out Arghonaut and Collossoil, with the SubRoost Set causing problems for Syclant, Pyroak, and Voodoom. It was even strong enough to be able to threaten Kitsunoh with a 2HKO from Brave Bird.

So yeah, Close Combat has nothing to do with fists/arms. (The Natural/Breed list now even includes Growlithe. Snubbull, Teddiurda, and Zangoose [Level-up] could all get it before)

I wouldn't worry about flavor when it comes to movepools. Most of the movepools that tend to win combine good competitive and flavor elements. Or at least, I always try to balance those in my submissions. I thought Tomohawk's movepool went a bit overboard, but I'm a harsh critic of those things.

[Gerard]

Would Air Slash be allowed in Aurumoth?, It's not really great as a coverage move due to it not really hitting anything that Bug or Psychic don't hit SE already bar fellow Bugs, all of which are neutral to it (in OU at least) and it's weaker than most other coverage moves, so it's more of a flavour move for the Moth/Butterfly-like mons than anything.

[Verminator]

I dunno, the animation and description for it implies that it's for something that can move very suddenly, and Aurumoth seems kind of a little too floaty for me to picture using it. How about Air Cutter instead? I can picture that one better, as I can imagine it waving its shells in quick succession to create wind.

[bugmaniacbob]

Originally Posted by Fat Gerard

Would Air Slash be allowed in Aurumoth?, It's not really great as a coverage move due to it not really hitting anything that Bug or Psychic don't hit SE already bar fellow Bugs, all of which are neutral to it (in OU at least) and it's weaker than most other coverage moves, so it's more of a flavour move for the Moth/Butterfly-like mons than anything.

Nope. It's a VGM and I never specified it as Allowed.

Same goes for Aerial Ace, Hurricane, Drill Peck and pretty much any other half-decent Flying-type attack.

Air Cutter, on the other hand, is not a VGM and as such is fair game.

[capefeather]

My comments about Close Combat never mentioned hands... I'm not even saying that Close Combat on Aurumoth would be a horrible slight on its movepool flavour, nor am I even telling people not to put Close Combat in their movepools due to flavour. I am just pointing out what kind of precedent the move has on similar Pokémon, and people can take that any way they want. That's what I thought this thread "was for".

Also I keep forgetting to say this, but if anyone is worried about how legendary vs pseudolegendary is going to work on Aurumoth in terms of precedent, both already don't fit extremely well. Namely, no 600 BST Pokémon has three abilities.

[B.Reinquist]

Am I the only one that think that Aurumoth could be Genesect before it was genetically altered by Team Plasma. You could make a whole game about that.

Team Plasma finds a fallen angel Pokemon and use it's DNA to create their own super being. It's like Giovanni and Mewtwo all over again.

I think we could make vague reference to that in the description, just something like, "Scientists are interested in it's potential". I can totally imagine Aurumoth being encased in armour and maving it's wings removed (That sounds morbid...sorry)

Genesect's description:

"This ancient bug Pokémon was altered by Team Plasma. They upgraded the cannon on its back."
"This Pokémon existed 300 million years ago. Team Plasma altered it and attached a cannon to its back."

That could so be Aurumoth

[Mari]

Aerial Ace and Acrobatics are not allowed? I think that they would be no competitive reason to use these moves ... But they would fit into the butterfly theme -> flavour. Are at least Bounce and Pluck allowed?

[GRs Cousin]

Originally Posted by Fat B.Reinquist

Am I the only one that think that Aurumoth could be Genesect before it was genetically altered by Team Plasma. You could make a whole game about that.

Team Plasma finds a fallen angel Pokemon and use it's DNA to create their own super being. It's like Giovanni and Mewtwo all over again.

I think we could make vague reference to that in the description, just something like, "Scientists are interested in it's potential". I can totally imagine Aurumoth being encased in armour and maving it's wings removed (That sounds morbid...sorry)

Genesect's description:

"This ancient bug Pokémon was altered by Team Plasma. They upgraded the cannon on its back."
"This Pokémon existed 300 million years ago. Team Plasma altered it and attached a cannon to its back."

That could so be Aurumoth

I can't see that... At all. Aurumoth and Genesect aren't even based on the same type of bug. Even if you could argue that Aurumoth is more of a paleozoic roach than a moth, they still resemble nothing of eachother beyond their Bug-typing. I could honestly go on, but nobody else is likely to even humor the idea, so no. If you want to submit that during the Dex submission stage, though, go ahead and do that.

[srk1214]

WAIT WAIT, what? Since when is Aerial Ace in any way a VGM (on Aurumoth) that needs to be restricted? What in the world is Aurumoth ever going to use unstabbed Aerial Ace on?

Furthermore, it fits flavor absolutely fine, and WASN'T disallowed.

There's a difference between VGMs and VGMs for a CAP. For example, is Charge Beam a VGM on Aurumoth? I have a hard time believing it is if the movepool also contains Tail Glow and Thunderbolt. I'm looking for clarification now, rather than later, when my movepool is deemed illegal for speculative reasons.

[jagged_angel]

Originally Posted by Fat Mari

Aerial Ace and Acrobatics are not allowed? I think that they would be no competitive reason to use these moves ... But they would fit into the butterfly theme -> flavour. Are at least Bounce and Pluck allowed?

I don't think Pluck fits Aurumoth at all, the description mentions pecking and Aurumoth has nothing to peck with. It's reserved for bird-pokemon (and Rattata/Bidoof for some reason), while Aurumoth doesn't even have visible mouthparts.

Acrobatics also doesn't fit that well - only Flying types, high-speed or monkey pokemon get it. The only ones that don't fit the bill have some playful/tumbling aspect like Volbeat/Illumise making patterns in the sky. The exception is Eelektross which I can't explain, but that does have Levitate so it is like a Flying-type in that respect. It's also a VGM.

Originally Posted by Fat srk1214

WAIT WAIT, what? Since when is Aerial Ace in any way a VGM (on Aurumoth) that needs to be restricted? What in the world is Aurumoth ever going to use unstabbed Aerial Ace on?

This does seem weird. Surely perfect accuracy moves and non-bird-related Flying moves are great flavour on this CAP. Surely it's only a VGM for Scyther. I love Scyther.

[bugmaniacbob]

Originally Posted by Fat srk1214

WAIT WAIT, what? Since when is Aerial Ace in any way a VGM (on Aurumoth) that needs to be restricted? What in the world is Aurumoth ever going to use unstabbed Aerial Ace on?

Furthermore, it fits flavor absolutely fine, and WASN'T disallowed.

There's a difference between VGMs and VGMs for a CAP. For example, is Charge Beam a VGM on Aurumoth? I have a hard time believing it is if the movepool also contains Tail Glow and Thunderbolt. I'm looking for clarification now, rather than later, when my movepool is deemed illegal for speculative reasons.

We have an unchanging list of VGMs specifically so we don't get situations like these where people say "but it's fine so who cares" and try to add stuff that wasn't allowed. It doesn't make the slightest bit of difference what you think will or will not be competitive because that isn't the point - the point of the whole system is to avoid bloating movepools.

If you wanted it to be Allowed, you should have pointed it out during the Attacking Moves Discussion. As it stands, nobody bothered to do so and as such it isn't on any lists, thus is disallowed.

Note that I had already added Aerial Ace to my list of "which VGMs should be removed?" in the thread on that subject, so very likely it will not be a VGM next CAP if others share your opinion (and to be honest, I am of the same opinion really). But you're not helping anyone by complaining here.

To clarify, you are not allowed to add any VGMs that I didn't specify as being Allowed on the move lists and if you do have one then your movepool won't be slated.

EDIT:

Originally Posted by Fat jagged_angel

This does seem weird. Surely perfect accuracy moves and non-bird-related Flying moves are great flavour on this CAP. Surely it's only a VGM for Scyther.

It's not a VGM for Scyther, it's a VGM for... well, last generation some people used it to get a guaranteed OHKO on Breloom and Heracross. It should really have been taken off when I updated the lists last, but for some reason I didn't do so. But abilities do not affect the VGM lists, remember, hence why Dynamicpunch is not a VGM.

I love Scyther.

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[jagged_angel]

Originally Posted by Fat bugmaniacbob

It's not a VGM for Scyther, it's a VGM for... well, last generation some people used it to get a guaranteed OHKO on Breloom and Heracross. It should really have been taken off when I updated the lists last, but for some reason I didn't do so. But abilities do not affect the VGM lists, remember, hence why Dynamicpunch is not a VGM.



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Ahh that explains it. And yes to Scyther-love! I am looking forward to the day when genetic-technology evolves to the point where Scyther can be created by splicing Mantis DNA with Grim Reaper DNA.

And so this post contains something of value I should point out Flash is a cool move for Aurumoth. Also Sky Attack would be nice as it's highest level-up move since it says on the first turn that the user is glowing. Very angelic, non? It's Japanese name is also God Bird, and what is that descriptive of if not an angel? Also, it's not just for birds - Sigilyph gets it, although it does seem to be Flying-type only. Might be a nice semi-legendary mark though - like Hurricane on Volcarona.

[zyrefredric]

I have a question: Given that Aerial Ace is disallowed. If I adhere to the current M-M Guidelines, giving Auru Bug Buzz necessitates that it should have Aerial Ace as well. Which rule should be followed?

[bugmaniacbob]

Originally Posted by Fat zyrefredric

I have a question: Given that Aerial Ace is disallowed. If I adhere to the current M-M Guidelines, giving Auru Bug Buzz necessitates that it should have Aerial Ace as well. Which rule should be followed?

No, the current Move-Move guidelines recommend that it should have Aerial Ace as well. Not quite the same thing.

So yeah Topic Leader edicts take precedence.

[Solstice]

Originally Posted by Fat B.Reinquist

Am I the only one that think that Aurumoth could be Genesect before it was genetically altered by Team Plasma. You could make a whole game about that.

Team Plasma finds a fallen angel Pokemon and use it's DNA to create their own super being. It's like Giovanni and Mewtwo all over again.

I think we could make vague reference to that in the description, just something like, "Scientists are interested in it's potential". I can totally imagine Aurumoth being encased in armour and maving it's wings removed (That sounds morbid...sorry)

Genesect's description:

"This ancient bug Pokémon was altered by Team Plasma. They upgraded the cannon on its back."
"This Pokémon existed 300 million years ago. Team Plasma altered it and attached a cannon to its back."

That could so be Aurumoth

Actually if you look at Kabutops and Genesect they actually have the same body type, Genesect is a few inches taller (the cannon), same basic facial features. Although its not a bug type it does have the same look.

I would have to say I prefer Aurumoth as a stand-alone pseudo-legendary, without any ties into former Pokemon.

[zyrefredric]

Thanks for the quick response bmb. So jiust to clarify: the type-move and move-move guidelines are only "suggestions" and not hard requirements? That means a movepool submission not strictly adhering to them can be accepted?

[bugmaniacbob]

Originally Posted by Fat zyrefredric

Thanks for the quick response bmb. So just to clarify: the type-move and move-move guidelines are only "suggestions" and not hard requirements? That means a movepool submission not strictly adhering to them can be accepted?

At the moment, yes. We may look into making the Guidelines back into hard Requirements in the future, but for the purposes of CAP 4 alone, a movepool that doesn't adhere to them is perfectly eligible for the slate.

[Birkal*]

So... I went into #cap today around 3:30pm and said "let's make a cap :>". People apparently bought it, so we went right into it. We worked for about 45 minutes, then I left to go eat Thanksgiving dinner. After that, we reconvened to finish the final product for about 10 minutes. The final result is as follows. You can check out the pastebin if you like; it's the same information presented here. I'll do a play-by-play at the end. I need to emphasize that this is not an official CAP Pokemon and never will be. It's just something fun we did in the chat to pass the time, nothing more.


Froxbite - The Climate Pokemon
Height: 3'6"
Weight: 80.0 lb.
Egg Group: Fairy

Concept: Hailmon

Discussion: Not a bulky offense mon.

Typing:
Ice / Fire

Abilities:
Flash Fire / Cute Charm / Snow Warning (DW)

Stats:
70 HP / 135 Atk / 63 Def / 120 SpA / 55 SpD / 112 Spe
BST Total: 555

Art:


Sprite:


New Move:
Flare Dash
40 BP Fire - Special Attack
Has +1 Priority

Movepool:
00 Scratch
00 Tail Whip
05 Howl
10 Ember
15 Leer
20 Powder Snow
25 Flame Wheel
30 Icy Wind
35 Flare Dash
35 Ice Shard
40 Encore
45 Baton Pass
50 Flamethrower
55 Will-o-wisp
60 Ice Beam
65 Flare Blitz
70 Icicle Crash

TM01 Hone Claws
TM05 Roar
TM06 Toxic
TM07 Hail
TM10 Hidden Power
TM11 Sunny Day
TM12 Taunt
TM13 Ice Beam
TM14 Blizzard
TM15 Hyper Beam
TM17 Protect
TM21 Frustration
TM27 Return
TM32 Double Team
TM35 Flamethrower
TM38 Fire Blast
TM42 Facade
TM43 Flame Charge
TM44 Rest
TM48 Round
TM50 Overheat
TM59 Incinerate
TM61 Will-O-Wisp
TM68 Giga Impact
TM75 Swords Dance
TM79 Frost Breath
TM83 Work Up
TM87 Swagger
TM90 Substitute
HM04 Strength

Egg
Hydro Pump

Pokedex Entries:
Black: Its fur coat is desired around the world for its ability to be both warm in the winter and cool in the summer.

White: Its genetic makeup changed when its habitat was destroyed by human activity. It now lives only for revenge.

BW2: Froxbite are known to alter the weather on a whim. People avoid them because of their unstable nature.



So, jas61292 say "ok" to my silly request, so the train got rolling. I asked what our concept should be, and Flarephoenix responded with HAILMON. Our discussion was nonexistent; I said we weren't having a bulky attacker (like every other Gen5 CAP does), so we went with that. jas and I determined immediately that we should do Ice/Fire and were met with little resistance. paintseagull suggested we make some sort of "cute arctic fox that is considered an eco-terrorist because it changes the weather." It was hilarious so we went with it. Some of our artists started getting interested, and CBMeadow whipped up a hilarious "artic cat" in MSPaint in under a minute. That served as the basis for Kadew's final draft, which you can see above. Wyverii was working on a sprite secretly in the background and had to do a complete 180 when Kadew posted her speedpaint.

Meanwhile, we were working hard on the competitive side of things. I posted a rough draft stat spread that had big offensive stats and around 80 defenses and HP. jas helped me tone down the defenses to make it less bulky; we made sure we survive neutral Scizor BP or something. We also wanted to outspeed Terrakion at minimum (suggested by Flarephoenix); I went up to 115; jas brought it down to 112 so we had a 555 BST.

After that, we talked about key moves. I pretty much mandated that we have only Fire and Ice-type STABs with a few other moves. We put in Hydro Pump for some fun coverage, but decided we didn't want anything else for the physical side. Flarephoenix also suggested we have a custom move called "Flare Dash" to give us some other priority outside of Ice Shard. It also gives us a fun niche by taking on Scizor and Sun sweepers. No Close Combat and no set up moves besides Swords Dance a la Weavile. And Howl. Aroooooooooooo

The artists and competitive people reconvened to put everything together. I said in the chat that we'd put up the first three Pokedex entries that anyone typed; we went with on by psg, Kadew, and myself. psg wanted us to do Eco-terrorist Pokemon, but I put a wall on that so we'd go for Climate Pokemon. In return, DHR refused to let me have my 10 foot tall arctic fox, so we settled on 3'6" and 80lbs. jas61292 finished up the final movepool, which was a good rough draft. The level up was nightmareish though, so DHR went in and made some edits to make it more manageable. We went Fairy group because Field has Smeargle and that's a headache. Wyverii finished up her sprite, and we were pretty much done! That's the story of Froxbite. If I can get the entire IRC log, I'll post it here.

What do you think? Well, if you've never visited IRC, you should! You can use Mibbit to join #cap and talk with all the CAP greats in real time. We don't usually make Pokemon like this, but we generally have a good time all around. Hope to see you there =)

[jas61292]

For anyone interested in the above, I thought I would post a log of how it came into being. After all, the creation is the fun part.

[11/22/12 | 16:12] <Birkal> we should
[11/22/12 | 16:12] <Birkal> make a pokemon :>
[11/22/12 | 16:12] <jas61292> Good idea. Lets do it.

The Process (Yes it's long. It's a 2.25 hour chat log)

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[11/22/12 | 16:12] <Birkal> ok
[11/22/12 | 16:12] <Birkal> what's the concept
[11/22/12 | 16:12] <Flarephoenix> Hailmon
[11/22/12 | 16:12] <paintseagull> hailmon!!!!
[11/22/12 | 16:12] <Birkal> alright hailmon
[11/22/12 | 16:12] <Flarephoenix> :D
[11/22/12 | 16:12] <Flarephoenix> This is going so well.
[11/22/12 | 16:12] <Birkal> what type is it?
[11/22/12 | 16:12] <jas61292> Fire/Ice
[11/22/12 | 16:12] <paintseagull> HAIL TYPE
[11/22/12 | 16:13] <Birkal> Fire/Ice
[11/22/12 | 16:13] <Birkal> perfect
[11/22/12 | 16:13] <Flarephoenix> lol
[11/22/12 | 16:13] <Birkal> abilities?
[11/22/12 | 16:13] <Birkal> I presume Snow Warning
[11/22/12 | 16:13] <Birkal> what else
[11/22/12 | 16:13] <Flarephoenix> Just Snow Warning?
[11/22/12 | 16:13] <Birkal> nahh
[11/22/12 | 16:13] <Birkal> let's do
[11/22/12 | 16:13] <Birkal> Flash Fire
[11/22/12 | 16:13] <Birkal> imo
[11/22/12 | 16:13] <jas61292> Sure
[11/22/12 | 16:13] <Flarephoenix> Snow Warning/Flash Fire/Ice Body?
[11/22/12 | 16:13] <jas61292> helps for heatran
[11/22/12 | 16:13] <Birkal> nahh, no ice body, imo
[11/22/12 | 16:13] <Flarephoenix> :(
[11/22/12 | 16:13] <paintseagull> ugghhh are you kidding the art will be a nightmare
[11/22/12 | 16:14] <Birkal> I only want two competitively viable abilities
[11/22/12 | 16:14] <Birkal> and ice body means
[11/22/12 | 16:14] <Flarephoenix> Lol
[11/22/12 | 16:14] <Birkal> it's gonna be bulky
[11/22/12 | 16:14] <jas61292> Snow Cloak :>
[11/22/12 | 16:14] <Birkal> and we're building a not bulky mon
[11/22/12 | 16:14] * Birkal smack jas
[11/22/12 | 16:14] <Birkal> ok what do we need
[11/22/12 | 16:14] <Birkal> uhh
[11/22/12 | 16:14] <Birkal> stats
[11/22/12 | 16:14] <Flarephoenix> Wait
[11/22/12 | 16:14] <DHR> not bulky
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[11/22/12 | 16:14] <DHR> fuck bulky
[11/22/12 | 16:14] <DHR> no more bulky
[11/22/12 | 16:14] <Birkal> ^
[11/22/12 | 16:14] <Flarephoenix> If we give it DW Snow Cloak, any moves it comes with are banned, right?
[11/22/12 | 16:14] <DHR> yeah
[11/22/12 | 16:14] <paintseagull> no snow cloak/flash fire
[11/22/12 | 16:14] <DHR> Oh
[11/22/12 | 16:14] <DHR> No wait
[11/22/12 | 16:15] <paintseagull> that fucks flavour up
[11/22/12 | 16:15] <Flarephoenix> lol
[11/22/12 | 16:15] <DHR> the new breed mechanics might change illegalities :|
[11/22/12 | 16:15] <Birkal> 80 HP / 135 Atk / 75 Def / 120 SpA / 70 SpD / 105 Spe
[11/22/12 | 16:15] <Birkal> yarr
[11/22/12 | 16:15] <Birkal> and no snow cloak
[11/22/12 | 16:15] <Birkal> it's just Flash Fire
[11/22/12 | 16:15] <paintseagull> cute charm
[11/22/12 | 16:16] <Birkal> ok change of plans
[11/22/12 | 16:16] <Birkal> Flare Fire / Cute Charm / Snow Warning (DW)
[11/22/12 | 16:16] <paintseagull> perfect
[11/22/12 | 16:16] <jas61292> I like it
[11/22/12 | 16:16] <Birkal> jas let's do stats
[11/22/12 | 16:16] <Birkal> what do you think of my above stats
[11/22/12 | 16:16] <Birkal> and DHR too
[11/22/12 | 16:16] <Birkal> and others
[11/22/12 | 16:17] <Flarephoenix> Hmm
[11/22/12 | 16:17] <Flarephoenix> I want it to out speed Terrakion.
[11/22/12 | 16:17] <Flarephoenix> Because.
[11/22/12 | 16:17] <Birkal> dang with those stats
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[11/22/12 | 16:17] <jas61292> I like the offenses, thouhg I feel we can go frailer. No real need for any bulk, imo
[11/22/12 | 16:17] <Birkal> yeah I agree, terra is a pretty big thread
[11/22/12 | 16:17] <Birkal> yeah, let's go frailer
[11/22/12 | 16:18] <Flarephoenix> Hmm
[11/22/12 | 16:18] <Birkal> 70 HP / 135 Atk / 70 Def / 120 SpA / 75 SpD / 115 Spe
[11/22/12 | 16:18] <Birkal> meh, more frail
[11/22/12 | 16:18] <Birkal> 70 HP / 135 Atk / 55 Def / 120 SpA / 75 SpD / 115 Spe
[11/22/12 | 16:18] <Flarephoenix> What's the min to survive a neutral CB Scizor BP?
[11/22/12 | 16:18] <jas61292> ^
[11/22/12 | 16:18] <Birkal> I dunno
[11/22/12 | 16:18] <jas61292> That is what I was thinking
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[11/22/12 | 16:18] <Birkal> that's what we gotta hit though
[11/22/12 | 16:19] <Flarephoenix> Man, that thing would crumble.
[11/22/12 | 16:19] <Flarephoenix> Particularly with that x4 SR weakness.
[11/22/12 | 16:19] <Birkal> it's meant to switch in and just wreck
[11/22/12 | 16:19] <Flarephoenix> Okay :D
[11/22/12 | 16:19] <Birkal> but yeah
[11/22/12 | 16:19] <Birkal> I think if we ever did hailmon for real
[11/22/12 | 16:19] <Birkal> we should go really bulky
[11/22/12 | 16:19] <Birkal> but like, not really offensive
[11/22/12 | 16:20] <Flarephoenix> Dusk had this idea for Ice/Steel
[11/22/12 | 16:20] <jas61292> 70/63 is never OHKOd by bullet punch
[11/22/12 | 16:20] <Birkal> just more of a mon that can take hits
[11/22/12 | 16:20] <Flarephoenix> with monster defenses.
[11/22/12 | 16:20] <Birkal> ok let's do that jas
[11/22/12 | 16:20] <Birkal> 70 HP / 135 Atk / 63 Def / 120 SpA / 75 SpD / 115 Spe
[11/22/12 | 16:20] <Birkal> is that speed good?
[11/22/12 | 16:20] <DHR> Birkal wants to remake Syclant with different typing :|
[11/22/12 | 16:20] <Flarephoenix> OH
[11/22/12 | 16:20] <Flarephoenix> OH
[11/22/12 | 16:20] <Flarephoenix> Give it a Fire-type Ice Shard
[11/22/12 | 16:20] <Flarephoenix> with Ice Shard
[11/22/12 | 16:20] <Flarephoenix> :3
[11/22/12 | 16:20] <Birkal> no DHR
[11/22/12 | 16:20] <Birkal> it's SR weak
[11/22/12 | 16:21] <Birkal> and no TG
[11/22/12 | 16:21] <jas61292> I'd put the speed at 112. I like my round BSTs
[11/22/12 | 16:21] <Flarephoenix> lol
[11/22/12 | 16:21] <Birkal> ok
[11/22/12 | 16:21] <Birkal> 70 HP / 135 Atk / 63 Def / 120 SpA / 75 SpD / 112 Spe
[11/22/12 | 16:21] <Birkal> psg you working on art?
[11/22/12 | 16:21] <Birkal> anyways we need a movepool now
[11/22/12 | 16:22] <paintseagull> I'm imagining an adorable arctic animal that is threatened by climate change
[11/22/12 | 16:22] <Flarephoenix> d'awwww
[11/22/12 | 16:22] <Birkal> just do like
[11/22/12 | 16:22] <Birkal> a 2 minute sketch
[11/22/12 | 16:22] <Birkal> lol
[11/22/12 | 16:22] <paintseagull> haha I have a presentation tomorrow otherwise I would
[11/22/12 | 16:22] <Flarephoenix> We're going to present this to the rest of the forum as a pre-production effort for CAP 5.
[11/22/12 | 16:22] <Birkal> CBmeadow
[11/22/12 | 16:22] <paintseagull> Birkal you do it!!
[11/22/12 | 16:22] <Birkal> n
[11/22/12 | 16:23] <Birkal> I am
[11/22/12 | 16:23] <Birkal> making a pkmn
[11/22/12 | 16:23] <Birkal> >:|
[11/22/12 | 16:23] <Birkal> ok so moves
[11/22/12 | 16:23] <paintseagull> o
[11/22/12 | 16:23] <Birkal> what moves we wnanan give it
[11/22/12 | 16:23] <Birkal> blizzard
[11/22/12 | 16:23] <Birkal> fire blast
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[11/22/12 | 16:23] <Birkal> and then what about hydro pump
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[11/22/12 | 16:23] <Birkal> I like hydro on it
[11/22/12 | 16:23] <jas61292> Sure
[11/22/12 | 16:23] <paintseagull> penguin pokemon?
[11/22/12 | 16:23] <Birkal> ok physically it gets ice shard
[11/22/12 | 16:23] <DHR> .... no
[11/22/12 | 16:23] <Birkal> YES
[11/22/12 | 16:23] <Birkal> flare blitz
[11/22/12 | 16:23] <DHR> You cant have Blizzard and fire blast
[11/22/12 | 16:23] <Birkal> icicle crash
[11/22/12 | 16:23] <Flarephoenix> Omg
[11/22/12 | 16:23] <Birkal> why not DHR :<
[11/22/12 | 16:24] <paintseagull> hm there are already a bunch of penguins
[11/22/12 | 16:24] <paintseagull> well there's one
[11/22/12 | 16:24] <Flarephoenix> But..
[11/22/12 | 16:24] <DHR> Are we Ice/Fire?
[11/22/12 | 16:24] <Pwnemon> HEY BIRKAL WHAT IS POKESCHOOL
[11/22/12 | 16:24] <Pwnemon> HA I REMEMBERED
[11/22/12 | 16:24] <jas61292> yes
[11/22/12 | 16:24] <Flarephoenix> And Empoleon has the best name.
[11/22/12 | 16:24] <Birkal> yes DHR
[11/22/12 | 16:24] <Birkal> we're Ice/Fire
[11/22/12 | 16:24] <Flarephoenix> Flare Blitz, Ice Shard, Fire-type Prio move
[11/22/12 | 16:24] <Flarephoenix> Blizzard, Ice Beam, Flamethrower, Fire Blast
[11/22/12 | 16:24] <Pwnemon> BIRKAL YOU SAID NOBODY WOULD REMEMBER POKESCHOOL
[11/22/12 | 16:24] <Birkal> fire-type prio
[11/22/12 | 16:24] <Birkal> that's nuts
[11/22/12 | 16:24] <Birkal> lol
[11/22/12 | 16:24] <Pwnemon> I DID :D
[11/22/12 | 16:24] <Birkal> is it special
[11/22/12 | 16:25] <Birkal> or physical
[11/22/12 | 16:25] <Flarephoenix> It would be amazing.
[11/22/12 | 16:25] <jas61292> I want a special one, but either works
[11/22/12 | 16:25] <Birkal> yeah I agree
[11/22/12 | 16:25] <Birkal> let's do special
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[11/22/12 | 16:25] <Birkal> we need moar special priority
[11/22/12 | 16:25] <Flarephoenix> <.<
[11/22/12 | 16:25] <Birkal> what's the BP on it
[11/22/12 | 16:25] <Birkal> should be pretty weak
[11/22/12 | 16:25] <Birkal> how about 150
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[11/22/12 | 16:25] <jas61292> lol
[11/22/12 | 16:25] <Flarephoenix> Let's "fix" Charizard with this Fire-type special prio.
[11/22/12 | 16:25] <Birkal> for real, what aboust 60
[11/22/12 | 16:26] <Flarephoenix> Isn't Prio automatically 40?
[11/22/12 | 16:26] <jas61292> Well, not all.
[11/22/12 | 16:26] <jas61292> 40 for most
[11/22/12 | 16:26] <Birkal> ok let's do 40 then
[11/22/12 | 16:26] <jas61292> 80 for ESpeed and Sucker Punch
[11/22/12 | 16:26] <Birkal> that's cool
[11/22/12 | 16:26] <Birkal> what's it called
[11/22/12 | 16:26] <jas61292> (and 30 for Feint)
[11/22/12 | 16:26] <Birkal> let's call it BURNING DESIRE
[11/22/12 | 16:26] <paintseagull> lame
[11/22/12 | 16:27] <Birkal> or or Torquin' Toesies
[11/22/12 | 16:27] <DHR> Nooo
[11/22/12 | 16:27] <DHR> should be like
[11/22/12 | 16:27] <Birkal> it could be something lame
[11/22/12 | 16:27] <Birkal> like "Fire Rush"
[11/22/12 | 16:27] <DHR> Yeah
[11/22/12 | 16:27] <DHR> All the "cool" fire names have been done
[11/22/12 | 16:27] <Birkal> "Rocket"
[11/22/12 | 16:27] <CBMeadow> "ice/fire" "adorable arctic animal" http://i.imgur.com/NwGWB.png ?
[11/22/12 | 16:27] <paintseagull> A+ CBMeadow
[11/22/12 | 16:27] <Birkal> yes perfect
[11/22/12 | 16:28] <DHR> omg
[11/22/12 | 16:28] <Birkal> good work
[11/22/12 | 16:28] <DHR> why is he so sad
[11/22/12 | 16:28] <Birkal> adorable
[11/22/12 | 16:28] <Kadew> what the is going on in here
[11/22/12 | 16:28] <DHR> SO SAD D:
[11/22/12 | 16:28] <Birkal> he's sad because he's about to kill
[11/22/12 | 16:28] <CBMeadow> because the sun is shining
[11/22/12 | 16:28] <Birkal> all of his friends
[11/22/12 | 16:28] <Birkal> with his super cool moves
[11/22/12 | 16:28] <jas61292> I like it
[11/22/12 | 16:28] <paintseagull> DHR: his habitat has been destroyed by climate change
[11/22/12 | 16:28] <Birkal> can we call it
[11/22/12 | 16:28] <Birkal> "Fire Pounce"
[11/22/12 | 16:28] <jas61292> That sounds too physical
[11/22/12 | 16:28] <Birkal> oh yeah
[11/22/12 | 16:29] <Birkal> ok we'll just do Fire Rush
[11/22/12 | 16:29] <Birkal> unless someone has a stroke of genius
[11/22/12 | 16:29] <Birkal> what is itsname
[11/22/12 | 16:29] <Kadew> flash fire would be nice if it weren't already an ability
[11/22/12 | 16:29] <paintseagull> SubwayJ's not here :\
[11/22/12 | 16:29] <Birkal> Snopurr
[11/22/12 | 16:29] <Birkal> purrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[11/22/12 | 16:29] <CBMeadow> heat burst spitfire flame rush
[11/22/12 | 16:30] <paintseagull> it's a FOX
[11/22/12 | 16:30] <Kadew> call it firefox
[11/22/12 | 16:30] <Birkal> lol
[11/22/12 | 16:30] <paintseagull> fice
[11/22/12 | 16:30] <Kadew> hailfire
[11/22/12 | 16:30] <Birkal> Fuzzburn
[11/22/12 | 16:30] <Birkal> fox cat
[11/22/12 | 16:31] <Birkal> yo CB, Spitfire is a good name for fire priority move
[11/22/12 | 16:31] <Birkal> let's do that
[11/22/12 | 16:31] <Birkal> still needs a name though
[11/22/12 | 16:31] <Kadew> foxtbite
[11/22/12 | 16:31] <Birkal> haha
[11/22/12 | 16:31] <Kadew> like frostbite
[11/22/12 | 16:31] <Kadew> but fox
[11/22/12 | 16:31] <Birkal> I like that
[11/22/12 | 16:31] <Birkal> Foxtbite
[11/22/12 | 16:32] <paintseagull> Froxbite
[11/22/12 | 16:32] <paintseagull> lol no
[11/22/12 | 16:32] <Kadew> and spitfire is good for the priority fire
[11/22/12 | 16:32] <paintseagull> foxtbite is good
[11/22/12 | 16:32] <Kadew> I shall sketch foxtbite right away
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[11/22/12 | 16:33] <Birkal> ok Foxtbite
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[11/22/12 | 16:33] <Birkal> does it have any non-attacking moves
[11/22/12 | 16:33] <jas61292> Not many
[11/22/12 | 16:33] <Birkal> how about encore
[11/22/12 | 16:33] <Birkal> and taunt
[11/22/12 | 16:33] <Birkal> but that's good for me
[11/22/12 | 16:33] <jas61292> Sure
[11/22/12 | 16:33] <paintseagull> it needs Revenge
[11/22/12 | 16:33] <Birkal> than generic stuff, like toxic
[11/22/12 | 16:34] <Kadew> hail, of course
[11/22/12 | 16:34] <Birkal> yo can we give it
[11/22/12 | 16:34] <Birkal> baton pass?
[11/22/12 | 16:34] <Kadew> sunnny day too?
[11/22/12 | 16:34] <Birkal> like, not really any set up moves
[11/22/12 | 16:34] <Birkal> but just give it baton pass?
[11/22/12 | 16:34] <Birkal> yeah sunny day
[11/22/12 | 16:34] <paintseagull> wait
[11/22/12 | 16:34] <Kadew> custom sunny day move called global warming
[11/22/12 | 16:34] <Kadew> no different except the name
[11/22/12 | 16:34] <Birkal> lol
[11/22/12 | 16:35] <paintseagull> will people use this on sun teams :\
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[11/22/12 | 16:35] <Birkal> maybe with flash fire
[11/22/12 | 16:35] <Birkal> I dunno
[11/22/12 | 16:35] <Birkal> probably not, imo
[11/22/12 | 16:35] <Birkal> it's such a weak mon
[11/22/12 | 16:35] <CBMeadow> I think Fawksbite might look less weird?
[11/22/12 | 16:35] <jas61292> SolarBeam y/n?
[11/22/12 | 16:35] <Birkal> yeah Fawksbite is better, imo
[11/22/12 | 16:35] <paintseagull> yeah
[11/22/12 | 16:35] <Birkal> and I don't think solar beam
[11/22/12 | 16:35] <Kadew> fawk makes me think of hawk
[11/22/12 | 16:36] <Kadew> RAWK HAWK
[11/22/12 | 16:36] <Birkal> what is your reasoning, jas
[11/22/12 | 16:36] <jas61292> No idea. I'm just looking through TM moves
[11/22/12 | 16:36] <Birkal> ahh
[11/22/12 | 16:36] <Birkal> imo
[11/22/12 | 16:36] <Birkal> it should pretty much have all fire/ice moves
[11/22/12 | 16:36] <Birkal> and hydro pump
[11/22/12 | 16:36] <Birkal> and then taunt, encore, and bpass
[11/22/12 | 16:37] <Kadew> flare blitz, or too small and cute for that, like flareon?
[11/22/12 | 16:37] <Birkal> no hazards, no rapid spin, not really any status outside of toxic
[11/22/12 | 16:37] <Birkal> yah flare blitz
[11/22/12 | 16:37] <Kadew> no will-o-wisp?
[11/22/12 | 16:37] <Birkal> oh yeah wow is fine
[11/22/12 | 16:37] <Birkal> it probably won't use it much, tbh
[11/22/12 | 16:37] <Birkal> jas what do you think of
[11/22/12 | 16:37] <Birkal> fighting physical coversage
[11/22/12 | 16:37] <Kadew> give it rock smash!
[11/22/12 | 16:37] <jas61292> Hmm... maybe some, but not Close Combate
[11/22/12 | 16:37] <Kadew> only fighting move you need
[11/22/12 | 16:38] <Kadew> rawk smash
[11/22/12 | 16:38] <Birkal> I'm fine with no fighting coverage
[11/22/12 | 16:38] <Birkal> ok let's do that
[11/22/12 | 16:38] <Birkal> uhh is there anything else we need
[11/22/12 | 16:38] <Birkal> a sprite I guess, but meh no need
[11/22/12 | 16:38] <Kadew> pokedex entries!
[11/22/12 | 16:38] <DHR> height weight
[11/22/12 | 16:39] <DHR> pokedex entries @:P
[11/22/12 | 16:39] <Birkal> height: 10' 6"
[11/22/12 | 16:39] <DHR> 10 foot?
[11/22/12 | 16:39] <Kadew> ten foot fox what
[11/22/12 | 16:39] <DHR> the fuck
[11/22/12 | 16:39] <DHR> no
[11/22/12 | 16:39] <Birkal> weight: 130lb
[11/22/12 | 16:39] <Kadew> haha
[11/22/12 | 16:39] <Birkal> yar
[11/22/12 | 16:39] <DHR> 3 feet tops
[11/22/12 | 16:39] <Birkal> no I dunno
[11/22/12 | 16:39] <DHR> No
[11/22/12 | 16:39] <Birkal> yeah 3 feet is cool
[11/22/12 | 16:39] <DHR> 10 feet is stupid
[11/22/12 | 16:39] <DHR> Thats like
[11/22/12 | 16:39] <Birkal> haha I was kidding
[11/22/12 | 16:39] <DHR> WAY taller than DRAGONITE
[11/22/12 | 16:39] <Birkal> 3' 6"
[11/22/12 | 16:39] <Birkal> good
[11/22/12 | 16:39] <Birkal> weight at like 80lb
[11/22/12 | 16:39] <Birkal> ?
[11/22/12 | 16:40] <DHR> half my weight sounds about right yeah
[11/22/12 | 16:40] <jas61292> How does this look for a movepool: http://pastebin.com/AuJRzZpj
[11/22/12 | 16:40] <DHR> doesnt load
[11/22/12 | 16:40] <DHR> oh NOW it does -_-
[11/22/12 | 16:40] <Kadew> needs more egg moves
[11/22/12 | 16:40] <DHR> How shit is that level up movepool D: I feel sorry for it
[11/22/12 | 16:40] <Birkal> yeah jas put bp in there
[11/22/12 | 16:41] <jas61292> Well, anyways, Thanksgiving Dinner time. be back later
[11/22/12 | 16:41] <Kadew> what about pursuit?
[11/22/12 | 16:41] <DHR> Strongest move is flame wheel until level 63?!
[11/22/12 | 16:41] <Birkal> lol
[11/22/12 | 16:41] <Kadew> ouch, that is crap movepool
[11/22/12 | 16:41] <jas61292> I was doing this fast
[11/22/12 | 16:41] <Kadew> mid to low tier for ingame for sure
[11/22/12 | 16:41] <Birkal> kadew are you doing art
[11/22/12 | 16:41] <DHR> :P
[11/22/12 | 16:41] <DHR> We know Jas
[11/22/12 | 16:41] <Kadew> working on it
[11/22/12 | 16:41] <Birkal> or are we keepin' cb's
[11/22/12 | 16:41] <Birkal> ok
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[11/22/12 | 16:41] <Birkal> DHR, go to work on it
[11/22/12 | 16:41] <Birkal> I think it's a good skelly
[11/22/12 | 16:42] <Birkal> but wanna spruce it up a bit?
[11/22/12 | 16:42] <Birkal> also needs baton pass
[11/22/12 | 16:42] <Kadew> how do I make it ice type besides just being white?
[11/22/12 | 16:42] <DHR> blue
[11/22/12 | 16:42] <DHR> lol
[11/22/12 | 16:42] <Kadew> and furry
[11/22/12 | 16:42] <Kadew> haha, blue
[11/22/12 | 16:42] <Kadew> that's it!
[11/22/12 | 16:42] <Kadew> haha
[11/22/12 | 16:42] <CBMeadow> Mine was terrible but I just got SAI so let's have a CONTEST
[11/22/12 | 16:42] <Birkal> also Fire Rush = Spitfire
[11/22/12 | 16:42] <DHR> Spitfire is nice
[11/22/12 | 16:42] <DHR> Digimon move :|
[11/22/12 | 16:42] <Birkal> oh is it?
[11/22/12 | 16:42] <DHR> And epic WW2 plane ;)
[11/22/12 | 16:42] <Birkal> then just do Fire Rush
[11/22/12 | 16:42] <Birkal> lol
[11/22/12 | 16:43] <uwnim> Plenty of things share move names.
[11/22/12 | 16:43] <DHR> Well, Spit Fire is the default fire attack in Digimon World on the PS
[11/22/12 | 16:43] <Birkal> what is the type, psg?
[11/22/12 | 16:43] <Birkal> "The Climate Pokemon"
[11/22/12 | 16:43] <Birkal> ?
[11/22/12 | 16:43] <Kadew> The fur coat pokemon
[11/22/12 | 16:43] <DHR> rofl
[11/22/12 | 16:43] <Kadew> makes the most luxurious linings
[11/22/12 | 16:43] <DHR> a bit morbid
[11/22/12 | 16:43] <paintseagull> The Eco-Terrorist pokemon
[11/22/12 | 16:43] <Birkal> hahahahaha
[11/22/12 | 16:43] <Kadew> preys on delibird
[11/22/12 | 16:43] <paintseagull> or climate haha
[11/22/12 | 16:43] <Birkal> perfect
[11/22/12 | 16:44] <Birkal> climate is probably
[11/22/12 | 16:44] <Birkal> more appropriate
[11/22/12 | 16:44] <Birkal> let's have eco-terrorism in the dex entries
[11/22/12 | 16:44] <paintseagull> yes :)
[11/22/12 | 16:44] <paintseagull> okay :D
[11/22/12 | 16:44] <Kadew> should i give it a global warming protest sign?
[11/22/12 | 16:44] <paintseagull> no :p
[11/22/12 | 16:44] <Birkal> n
[11/22/12 | 16:44] <Birkal> ok we need dex entries
[11/22/12 | 16:44] <Birkal> first three written go in
[11/22/12 | 16:45] <paintseagull> Kadew did you not see CB's art?
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[11/22/12 | 16:45] <Kadew> yesh
[11/22/12 | 16:45] <Kadew> that's what I'm working off of
[11/22/12 | 16:45] <paintseagull> ok
[11/22/12 | 16:45] <Kadew> the "actic fox"
[11/22/12 | 16:45] <CBMeadow> "art"
[11/22/12 | 16:45] <Kadew> or "artic fox"
[11/22/12 | 16:45] <CBMeadow> it's not very good and I officially claim a CONTEST
[11/22/12 | 16:45] <Kadew> whichever spelling is the correct incorrect one
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[11/22/12 | 16:46] <paintseagull> Its genetic makeup changed when its habitat was destroyed by human activity. It now lives only for revenge.
[11/22/12 | 16:47] <paintseagull> (Dex entry)
[11/22/12 | 16:47] <Birkal> Fawksbite: It's known to change the weather on a whim. People avoid it because of its unstable nature.
[11/22/12 | 16:47] <DHR> We having any stat up moves?
[11/22/12 | 16:47] <Birkal> no DHR
[11/22/12 | 16:47] <Birkal> unless you think we should?
[11/22/12 | 16:47] <Kadew> It's fur coat is much desired around the world for the ability to be both warm in the winter and cool in the summer
[11/22/12 | 16:47] <Birkal> yo any sprites around?
[11/22/12 | 16:47] <Birkal> wyverii?
[11/22/12 | 16:47] <Kadew> as a result few exist in the wild
[11/22/12 | 16:47] <Wyverii> Wutwut?
[11/22/12 | 16:47] <Birkal> wyverii can you make a sprite
[11/22/12 | 16:47] <Birkal> in five minutes
[11/22/12 | 16:48] <Wyverii> Yes
[11/22/12 | 16:48] <Birkal> it's called
[11/22/12 | 16:48] <Birkal> speed spriting
[11/22/12 | 16:48] <Birkal> it is all the rage
[11/22/12 | 16:48] <Birkal> http://i.imgur.com/NwGWB.png
[11/22/12 | 16:48] <Birkal> we are almost done making this pokemon
[11/22/12 | 16:48] <CBMeadow> I'm doing BETTER ART
[11/22/12 | 16:48] <Birkal> halp
[11/22/12 | 16:48] <CBMeadow> 3:<
[11/22/12 | 16:48] <Birkal> oh cb is doing better
[11/22/12 | 16:48] <Birkal> apparently
[11/22/12 | 16:48] <Wyverii> BW size?
[11/22/12 | 16:48] <Kadew> I do not know how to draw fox
[11/22/12 | 16:48] <Birkal> 3'6"
[11/22/12 | 16:48] <Kadew> so I draw cat
[11/22/12 | 16:48] <Birkal> weight is 80lb
[11/22/12 | 16:48] <DHR> fox is a dog
[11/22/12 | 16:49] <DHR> not a cat
[11/22/12 | 16:49] <Birkal> DHR do you think
[11/22/12 | 16:49] <Birkal> we should have stat up moves?
[11/22/12 | 16:49] <Birkal> how about swords dance
[11/22/12 | 16:49] <Birkal> that should be all, imo
[11/22/12 | 16:50] <DHR> http://pastebin.com/FAf6yW7Z
[11/22/12 | 16:50] <DHR> sowrds dance doesnt make sense
[11/22/12 | 16:50] <DHR> Howl would work
[11/22/12 | 16:50] <Birkal> oh yeah do howl
[11/22/12 | 16:50] <DHR> Maybe Work Up cause they seem to have forgotten all abotu howl :|
[11/22/12 | 16:50] <Birkal> I guess
[11/22/12 | 16:50] <Birkal> or work up
[11/22/12 | 16:50] <Birkal> but dude stuff like
[11/22/12 | 16:51] <Birkal> weavile and landorous-t get Swords dance
[11/22/12 | 16:51] <Birkal> and lucario
[11/22/12 | 16:51] <DHR> they arent a dog :|
[11/22/12 | 16:51] <DHR> Well lucario is dubious
[11/22/12 | 16:51] <Birkal> lol
[11/22/12 | 16:51] <paintseagull> Vulpix you idiots
[11/22/12 | 16:51] <paintseagull> is the precedent
[11/22/12 | 16:51] <DHR> ????
[11/22/12 | 16:51] <Birkal> yarr
[11/22/12 | 16:51] <DHR> But Vulpix is shit
[11/22/12 | 16:51] <Birkal> no
[11/22/12 | 16:51] <Birkal> give it
[11/22/12 | 16:51] <Birkal> swords dance
[11/22/12 | 16:51] <Birkal> it makes sense competitivel
[11/22/12 | 16:52] <Birkal> >:|
[11/22/12 | 16:52] <DHR> our stats were mixed though?
[11/22/12 | 16:52] <Birkal> yah
[11/22/12 | 16:52] <DHR> Work Up + Sowrds Dance
[11/22/12 | 16:52] <Birkal> but it should have some sort of move
[11/22/12 | 16:52] <Birkal> yeah that's fine
[11/22/12 | 16:52] <DHR> And howl in early level up over Growl or something
[11/22/12 | 16:52] <Birkal> mhmm
[11/22/12 | 16:52] <paintseagull> Nasty Plot makes sense flavour wise
[11/22/12 | 16:52] <Birkal> do that
[11/22/12 | 16:52] <Birkal> NP makes me nervous
[11/22/12 | 16:52] <paintseagull> can you give it Defog
[11/22/12 | 16:52] <Birkal> because of Fire Rush
[11/22/12 | 16:52] <DHR> NP doesnt really
[11/22/12 | 16:52] <Birkal> and yeah defog for sure
[11/22/12 | 16:52] <DHR> Togekiss gets Nasty Plot remember
[11/22/12 | 16:52] <DHR> and its like the happiness and peace pokemon
[11/22/12 | 16:53] <paintseagull> haha
[11/22/12 | 16:53] <Birkal> yeah I think no NP
[11/22/12 | 16:53] <paintseagull> probably a weird translation
[11/22/12 | 16:53] <Birkal> ok DHR you make the updates?
[11/22/12 | 16:55] <Kadew> what about haze?
[11/22/12 | 16:55] <Kadew> or mist or whatever the counterpart is
[11/22/12 | 16:56] <DHR> Defog
[11/22/12 | 16:56] <DHR> why Defog
[11/22/12 | 16:56] <Flarephoenix> Defog should be mandatory on all competitve pokemon.
[11/22/12 | 16:56] <Birkal> dhr, because it changes climates
[11/22/12 | 16:56] <DHR> everything that can use it has wings
[11/22/12 | 16:56] <Birkal> it has wings of justice
[11/22/12 | 16:56] <Birkal> also it shoudl have
[11/22/12 | 16:56] <Birkal> every weather move
[11/22/12 | 16:56] <Birkal> lol
[11/22/12 | 16:56] <Kadew> jiiiiiuuusstiiiiice
[11/22/12 | 16:57] <Birkal> sandstorm / hail / sunny day / rain dance
[11/22/12 | 16:57] <Flarephoenix> Wait
[11/22/12 | 16:57] <Birkal> yarr
[11/22/12 | 16:57] <Flarephoenix> is this still Hailmon? I checked out.
[11/22/12 | 16:57] <Kadew> sandstorm makes negative sense
[11/22/12 | 16:57] <Birkal> lol it's a weather mon
[11/22/12 | 16:57] <Birkal> :<
[11/22/12 | 16:57] <DHR> No an all weather mon should be normal like Castform
[11/22/12 | 16:57] <Birkal> ok
[11/22/12 | 16:57] <Flarephoenix> Oh.
[11/22/12 | 16:57] <Flarephoenix> Sandstorm makes total sense.
[11/22/12 | 16:57] <Birkal> so just hail / sunny day / rain dance
[11/22/12 | 16:57] <Birkal> imo
[11/22/12 | 16:57] <Flarephoenix> A warming planet can create deserts.
[11/22/12 | 16:57] <Flarephoenix> And stronger winds. :I
[11/22/12 | 16:58] <paintseagull> and fucked up precipitation patterns
[11/22/12 | 16:58] <Birkal> nahh I'm fine without it
[11/22/12 | 16:58] <Birkal> it can do enough weather damage
[11/22/12 | 16:58] <paintseagull> i think it's overkill
[11/22/12 | 16:58] <Birkal> with those three
[11/22/12 | 16:58] <paintseagull> I think no rain dance though
[11/22/12 | 16:58] <Birkal> oh really
[11/22/12 | 16:59] <Birkal> ok sure, no rain dance
[11/22/12 | 16:59] <Birkal> fine by me
[11/22/12 | 16:59] <Birkal> DHR are you getting this
[11/22/12 | 16:59] <Birkal> or should I be recording it
[11/22/12 | 16:59] <Birkal> lol
[11/22/12 | 16:59] <Kadew> okay, i've got this
[11/22/12 | 16:59] <Kadew> http://i.imgur.com/K5oOv.png
[11/22/12 | 16:59] <Birkal> GWHAGHAGH
[11/22/12 | 16:59] <CBMeadow> baww :3
[11/22/12 | 16:59] <Kadew> that was a fun speed drawing :)
[11/22/12 | 17:00] <Birkal> needs more prominent eyebrows
[11/22/12 | 17:00] <paintseagull> yay!
[11/22/12 | 17:00] <Birkal> but adorable; I love it
[11/22/12 | 17:00] <Kadew> eyebrows?
[11/22/12 | 17:00] <Birkal> CB, are you working on one?
[11/22/12 | 17:00] <CBMeadow> I am
[11/22/12 | 17:00] <Birkal> lol kadew, I am just obsessed with eyebrows
[11/22/12 | 17:00] <Kadew> Meadow you already made one
[11/22/12 | 17:00] <Birkal> and ok cb we will do a vote
[11/22/12 | 17:00] <Birkal> if you want
[11/22/12 | 17:00] <CBMeadow> It looks quite different, and skirting the line of Pokemon like
[11/22/12 | 17:00] <Kadew> no takebacks
[11/22/12 | 17:00] <Birkal> lol
[11/22/12 | 17:00] <CBMeadow> YEAH BUT MINE WAS PAINT
[11/22/12 | 17:00] <Birkal> shush suhsh
[11/22/12 | 17:00] <Birkal> my artists
[11/22/12 | 17:00] <Birkal> we will vote
[11/22/12 | 17:01] <DHR> so it already had sunny day and hail in the moveset lol
[11/22/12 | 17:01] <Birkal> yeah that's fine
[11/22/12 | 17:01] <Birkal> swords dance
[11/22/12 | 17:01] <DHR> just not via Lv Up
[11/22/12 | 17:01] <Birkal> though >:|
[11/22/12 | 17:01] <DHR> Cause now it has like a million level ups lol
[11/22/12 | 17:01] <Birkal> yeah that's fine in just TM
[11/22/12 | 17:01] <Birkal> what are its egg groups
[11/22/12 | 17:02] <Birkal> Field?
[11/22/12 | 17:02] <Kadew> birkal
[11/22/12 | 17:02] <Kadew> I eyebrowed it
[11/22/12 | 17:02] <Kadew> and hahahahaha
[11/22/12 | 17:02] <Kadew> http://i.imgur.com/TDXKE.png
[11/22/12 | 17:02] <Birkal> haha lemme see
[11/22/12 | 17:02] <paintseagull> lol
[11/22/12 | 17:02] <Birkal> YES
[11/22/12 | 17:02] <Birkal> HAHAHAH
[11/22/12 | 17:02] <Birkal> the other one is better
[11/22/12 | 17:02] <Birkal> but the eyebrows are gahgeuz
[11/22/12 | 17:02] <Kadew> the best part is that
[11/22/12 | 17:02] <Kadew> with those eyebrows
[11/22/12 | 17:02] <Kadew> make it look just like one of my friends
[11/22/12 | 17:02] <Birkal> lol
[11/22/12 | 17:03] <Flarephoenix> THAT'S ADORABLE
[11/22/12 | 17:03] <Birkal> and let's just do Field egg group
[11/22/12 | 17:03] <Birkal> ok DHR :>
[11/22/12 | 17:03] <DHR> lol field ok
[11/22/12 | 17:03] <DHR> So it breeds with Wailord for Hydro Pump
[11/22/12 | 17:03] <DHR> Oh joy
[11/22/12 | 17:03] <Kadew> perfect
[11/22/12 | 17:04] <Kadew> (i'm not drawing that)
[11/22/12 | 17:04] <Birkal> hahaha
[11/22/12 | 17:04] <Birkal> excellent
[11/22/12 | 17:05] <DHR> well actually
[11/22/12 | 17:05] <Birkal> DHR are you doing a pastebin movepool
[11/22/12 | 17:05] <DHR> field causes more issues
[11/22/12 | 17:05] <Birkal> or should I be keeping track of it
[11/22/12 | 17:05] <DHR> cause like Smeargle is a dick
[11/22/12 | 17:05] <Birkal> oh really
[11/22/12 | 17:05] <DHR> http://pastebin.com/UTsPCBg1
[11/22/12 | 17:05] <Birkal> let's do Fairy then
[11/22/12 | 17:05] <Birkal> it looks pretty whimsical
[11/22/12 | 17:05] <Birkal> I am using that pastebin
[11/22/12 | 17:06] <paintseagull> ahhh this has been an awesome stress relief guys. gotta go though <3 (will be back online but not paying attention)
[11/22/12 | 17:06] <Birkal> anyways I gotta go for turkey day
[11/22/12 | 17:06] <Birkal> bye psg <3
[11/22/12 | 17:06] <paintseagull> ohhh happy turkey day
[11/22/12 | 17:06] <DHR> Well, I dunno, smeargle means its easy ot breed any of the field egg moves...it basically allows you to breed *anything* you want in terms of creating a movepool
[11/22/12 | 17:07] <Birkal> but cb we can vote when I get back
[11/22/12 | 17:07] <Birkal> DHR, you finish up movepool
[11/22/12 | 17:07] <Birkal> wyverii sprite
[11/22/12 | 17:07] <Birkal> boom we're done
[11/22/12 | 17:07] * Birkal is now known as Brbkal
[11/22/12 | 17:07] <Kadew> I like this sort of speed-CAP thing, is very fun :)
[11/22/12 | 17:07] <DHR> Do you want anything super random lol
[11/22/12 | 17:07] <Brbkal> hmm?
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[11/22/12 | 17:07] <Brbkal> idc, just don't give it anything else competitively
[11/22/12 | 17:07] <Kadew> explosion
[11/22/12 | 17:07] <Brbkal> YES
[11/22/12 | 17:07] <Brbkal> ok gotta go bye~
[11/22/12 | 17:08] <Kadew> how big is a gen 5 sprite? I want to try butchering one
[11/22/12 | 17:09] <uwnim> 96x96
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[11/22/12 | 17:13] <Kadew> Gosh I have not worked with sprites for, like, five years
[11/22/12 | 17:14] <Kadew> this is so bad
[11/22/12 | 17:14] <CBMeadow> My 'entry' is worse >:L
[11/22/12 | 17:14] <Kadew> Mine is not recognizeable as anything
[11/22/12 | 17:15] <CBMeadow> Eh
[11/22/12 | 17:15] <DHR> http://new.weavesilk.com/?flub
[11/22/12 | 17:16] <Kadew> Also, unrelated to the foxbite, I worked on embirch's leg does this look better http://i.imgur.com/XDf44.png
[11/22/12 | 17:16] <Kadew> before was http://i.imgur.com/PJBK8.png
[11/22/12 | 17:17] <CBMeadow> I think so!
[11/22/12 | 17:18] <Kadew> Are there any glaring flaws left?
[11/22/12 | 17:18] <Kadew> aside from the lack of hula skirt, of course
[11/22/12 | 17:18] <CBMeadow> You might take the knee-to-heel bit visible and make it a bit thicker <-> way, since our-right leg seems thicker than the left right now
[11/22/12 | 17:18] <CBMeadow> not by a lot though
[11/22/12 | 17:18] <DHR> Just giving you guya head up Ill be posting the Dex/Sprites threads tomorrow, so take that as like a 72~96 hour warning or something
[11/22/12 | 17:19] <Kadew> eep
[11/22/12 | 17:19] <Kadew> and i
[11/22/12 | 17:19] <Kadew> ve got to draw flarelm too
[11/22/12 | 17:19] <Kadew> D:
[11/22/12 | 17:20] <DHR> Yup:P
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[11/22/12 | 17:25] <CBMeadow> I officially vote that Kadew wins http://i.imgur.com/woEtw.png
[11/22/12 | 17:25] <Kadew> spriting be hard http://i.imgur.com/zSkTW.png
[11/22/12 | 17:25] <DHR> http://pastebin.com/index/UTsPCBg1 HERE MOVES << list for myself if I try to find this later
[11/22/12 | 17:25] <Kadew> yours scares me ;-;
[11/22/12 | 17:25] <Kadew> those eyes
[11/22/12 | 17:25] <CBMeadow> he's apparently RESENTFUL
[11/22/12 | 17:25] <CBMeadow> so
[11/22/12 | 17:26] <Wyverii> Nearly done with a speed sprite. Had to do a massive 180 when kadew posted art
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[11/22/12 | 17:27] <DHR> lol
[11/22/12 | 17:27] <Kadew> CBMeadow, is that made with your new tablet? :O
[11/22/12 | 17:28] <CBMeadow> Yeh
[11/22/12 | 17:28] <Kadew> how are you liking it so far?
[11/22/12 | 17:28] <Kadew> what kind did you get?
[11/22/12 | 17:28] <CBMeadow> Quite a bit
[11/22/12 | 17:28] <CBMeadow> Bamboo Create
[11/22/12 | 17:28] <CBMeadow> It was really frustrating before I got hooked up with SAI
[11/22/12 | 17:28] <CBMeadow> GIMP is infuriating
[11/22/12 | 17:28] <Kadew> get some photoshop, girl
[11/22/12 | 17:28] <CBMeadow> :<
[11/22/12 | 17:29] <Kadew> blar you got the create curse you
[11/22/12 | 17:29] <CBMeadow> The outside the lines was because I was rushing
[11/22/12 | 17:29] <Kadew> mine is the bamboo capture which is like half the size of the create
[11/22/12 | 17:29] <CBMeadow> D:
[11/22/12 | 17:29] <CBMeadow> Does it work well at least?
[11/22/12 | 17:29] <Kadew> it works infinitely better than a mouse
[11/22/12 | 17:30] <Kadew> it's just that the larger canvas is nice
[11/22/12 | 17:30] <CBMeadow> Yeah
[11/22/12 | 17:30] <Kadew> one day I shall be rich and get an intuos
[11/22/12 | 17:30] <CBMeadow> those ears are ginormous and I hate them :
[11/22/12 | 17:30] <Kadew> and there will be rejoiceing throughout the land
[11/22/12 | 17:30] <CBMeadow> Intuos?
[11/22/12 | 17:30] <CBMeadow> Are those like wizard magic?
[11/22/12 | 17:31] <Kadew> the higher-end wacom and they are lovely
[11/22/12 | 17:31] <Kadew> wizard magic, not quite
[11/22/12 | 17:31] <Kadew> that would be the cintique
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[11/22/12 | 17:31] <Kadew> cintiq are soooooo expensive
[11/22/12 | 17:31] <Kadew> but they're a computer screen at teh same time as a tablet
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[11/22/12 | 17:31] <Kadew> and they make me cry beautiful tears
[11/22/12 | 17:31] <CBMeadow> Is the actual tablet bit incredibly good?
[11/22/12 | 17:32] <Kadew> it's what the professionals use
[11/22/12 | 17:32] <Kadew> working on, like, i dunno pixar and stuff
[11/22/12 | 17:32] <Kadew> probably
[11/22/12 | 17:32] <Kadew> there's a 24 inch hd cintiq
[11/22/12 | 17:32] <Kadew> it's like a tv
[11/22/12 | 17:33] <Kadew> but a tablet computer moniter
[11/22/12 | 17:33] <CBMeadow> God. : P
[11/22/12 | 17:33] <Kadew> for like 3 or 4 thousand dollars
[11/22/12 | 17:33] <DHR> O_O
[11/22/12 | 17:33] <Kadew> professional means expensive
[11/22/12 | 17:33] <Kadew> but, man, can you imagine working with one @_@
[11/22/12 | 17:34] <CBMeadow> I would borrow one if I could just to see
[11/22/12 | 17:34] <Wyverii> http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u...sdhdwshfsj.png
[11/22/12 | 17:34] <CBMeadow> baww. :3
[11/22/12 | 17:34] <jas61292> Awww
[11/22/12 | 17:35] <Kadew> d'awww
[11/22/12 | 17:35] <jas61292> you guys are awesome. That art and that sprite
[11/22/12 | 17:35] <CBMeadow> Kadew still wins. :>
[11/22/12 | 17:35] <Kadew> My sprite certainly did not win
[11/22/12 | 17:36] <CBMeadow> but your art should
[11/22/12 | 17:36] <CBMeadow> s'what I meant : P
[11/22/12 | 17:36] <DHR> haha that is awesome wyv
[11/22/12 | 17:36] <Kadew> Fine, fine, i'll accept the win. I'd like to thank the academy for blah blar
[11/22/12 | 17:37] <CBMeadow> If I sprot mine I'd do a pose like this http://i.imgur.com/j36DM.png
[11/22/12 | 17:37] <Kadew> Wyverii you are a beautiful person for spriting so well
[11/22/12 | 17:37] <CBMeadow> Yes she(?) is
[11/22/12 | 17:37] <Wyverii> I do not even know why I did it
[11/22/12 | 17:37] <jas61292> Because you are an awesome person
[11/22/12 | 17:37] <Kadew> You did it because your talent demanded it of you
[11/22/12 | 17:37] <Wyverii> Also Kadew's art wins
[11/22/12 | 17:37] <Kadew> talent like that is meant to be shared in all avenues
[11/22/12 | 17:38] <CBMeadow> Birkal still needs to vote
[11/22/12 | 17:38] <Flarephoenix> :3
[11/22/12 | 17:38] <Flarephoenix> Hailmon for CAP 5.
[11/22/12 | 17:38] <Kadew> Didn't he leave to go turkey some dinner or something?
[11/22/12 | 17:39] <Kadew> for the name, did we decide on foxtbite, fawksbite, or foxbite?
[11/22/12 | 17:39] <CBMeadow> Birkal but cb we can vote when I get back
[11/22/12 | 17:39] <CBMeadow> I don't like foxtbite just because it looks weird
[11/22/12 | 17:40] <Kadew> yeah, too many consonants all mashed together in the middle
[11/22/12 | 17:40] <DHR> :(
[11/22/12 | 17:40] <DHR> i have to waitanother month for my turkey dinner
[11/22/12 | 17:40] <Kadew> call it freezerburn
[11/22/12 | 17:40] <Kadew> fox that climbs in the fridge and ruins your foodstuffs
[11/22/12 | 17:40] <CBMeadow> That might be a move
[11/22/12 | 17:41] <CBMeadow> A mini Ice Burn that has a chance to burn but no charge turn
[11/22/12 | 17:41] <DHR> Froxbite
[11/22/12 | 17:41] <Kadew> ^that's good
[11/22/12 | 17:41] <CBMeadow> Agreed
[11/22/12 | 17:41] <jas61292> Ice type Scald :>
[11/22/12 | 17:41] <CBMeadow> That's what I was looking for jas : P
[11/22/12 | 17:41] <jas61292> That would actually completely change the entire competitive game if it had any distribution
[11/22/12 | 17:42] <Kadew> dragons would go extinct
[11/22/12 | 17:42] <Kadew> forever
[11/22/12 | 17:42] <DHR> Hydreigon wouldnt care
[11/22/12 | 17:42] <Kadew> eh, special, true
[11/22/12 | 17:42] <jas61292> Well... it would care cause it is an 80 BP ice move
[11/22/12 | 17:42] <Kadew> but the physical dragons would throw a hissy fit
[11/22/12 | 17:42] <CBMeadow> It's not broken because it's not priority!1
[11/22/12 | 17:43] <Kadew> in hail, it gets priority too
[11/22/12 | 17:43] <Kadew> bam
[11/22/12 | 17:44] <CBMeadow> If froxbite got that move and nothing else did it would automatically fulfill making hail awesome
[11/22/12 | 17:44] <CBMeadow> Also
[11/22/12 | 17:44] <CBMeadow> It has snow warning
[11/22/12 | 17:45] <Kadew> did we just fulfill the dragonslayer concept too? it's very presence with a priority stab ice scald would destroy them
[11/22/12 | 17:45] <CBMeadow> Yep
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[11/22/12 | 17:46] <Flarephoenix> You people are insane.
[11/22/12 | 17:46] <jas61292> "priority stab ice scald" God, just hearing that makes me laugh.
[11/22/12 | 17:46] <Kadew> Of course we're insane
[11/22/12 | 17:46] <Kadew> we're artists ;)
[11/22/12 | 17:46] <Wyverii> Here's a more balanced sprite http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u...rii/artfox.png
[11/22/12 | 17:47] <Kadew> Ah, you pulled the head back
[11/22/12 | 17:47] <CBMeadow> I think the eyes might be a little too far apart
[11/22/12 | 17:47] <Kadew> I like it better that way
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[11/22/12 | 17:47] <CBMeadow> Maybe not though
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[11/22/12 | 17:47] <CBMeadow> but yeah this version's better in my opinion : P
[11/22/12 | 17:47] <Wyverii> Right, see you suckers
[11/22/12 | 17:47] <DHR> Night Wyverii
[11/22/12 | 17:48] * Wyverii blasts off in a cloud of chicken soup
[11/22/12 | 17:48] <Kadew> see you and thanks for the spriting you wizard
[11/22/12 | 17:48] <Kadew> haha
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[11/22/12 | 17:49] <DHR> someone needs to collect all we just did and send it to birkal
[11/22/12 | 17:50] <Kadew> It's a shame we can't turn this into a thread in the forum to show off our work
[11/22/12 | 17:50] <Brbkal> I'm here
[11/22/12 | 17:50] <Brbkal> gotta go in a minute
[11/22/12 | 17:50] <Brbkal> I'll add the sprite
[11/22/12 | 17:50] <Kadew> since the whole "don't make CAPs on your own" thing
[11/22/12 | 17:50] <Brbkal> kadew did you do a final piece of art?
[11/22/12 | 17:50] <Brbkal> and I think I'll post it in the kitchen
[11/22/12 | 17:50] <Brbkal> if that's cool with everyone
[11/22/12 | 17:50] <Kadew> http://i.imgur.com/K5oOv.png is as final as it is
[11/22/12 | 17:50] <Kadew> that's cool
[11/22/12 | 17:51] <Brbkal> of course
[11/22/12 | 17:51] <Brbkal> it's hot :D
[11/22/12 | 17:51] <DHR> haha really going to post it xD
[11/22/12 | 17:51] <Brbkal> why not
[11/22/12 | 17:51] <Kadew> cool like ice
[11/22/12 | 17:51] <Brbkal> it was fun
[11/22/12 | 17:51] <Kadew> hot like fire
[11/22/12 | 17:51] <Brbkal> ok gotta run again
[11/22/12 | 17:51] <Brbkal> will brb
[11/22/12 | 17:52] <SgtWoodsy> oh did we just make a cap
[11/22/12 | 17:52] <Kadew> Basically
[11/22/12 | 17:52] <DHR> p much
[11/22/12 | 17:52] <SgtWoodsy> k00l
[11/22/12 | 17:52] <DHR> in the sapce of about 40 minutes or something
[11/22/12 | 17:52] <CBMeadow> we should ALL GET BADGES
[11/22/12 | 17:52] <Kadew> you didn't contribute any art
[11/22/12 | 17:52] <Kadew> jk you can get a badge too ;)
[11/22/12 | 17:53] <Kadew> for the idea of the pic
[11/22/12 | 17:53] <Kadew> so, a pre-contributer or something?
[11/22/12 | 17:53] <Kadew> haha i don't even know how badges work
[11/22/12 | 17:54] <DHR> You have to do a fair amount for them
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[11/22/12 | 17:55] <CBMeadow> Kadew
[11/22/12 | 17:55] <CBMeadow> I finally understand what you mean about sketch vs lineart
[11/22/12 | 17:55] <CBMeadow> :C
[11/22/12 | 17:56] <Kadew> Lineart is sad days
[11/22/12 | 17:56] <Kadew> but then you get finished and can color a bunch of crap everywhere and it is joyful
[11/22/12 | 17:56] <Kadew> particularly since on the computer, color is eraseable
[11/22/12 | 17:56] <paintseagull> we got a sprite??
[11/22/12 | 17:56] <CBMeadow> http://i.imgur.com/LcfWh.png vs http://i.imgur.com/Ha89r.png
[11/22/12 | 17:57] <CBMeadow> Yep
[11/22/12 | 17:57] <Kadew> ah I shouldn't laugh but ahaha
[11/22/12 | 17:57] <Kadew> I'm sorry
[11/22/12 | 17:57] <CBMeadow> Nah it's fine
[11/22/12 | 17:57] <Kadew> yeah, lineart is rough
[11/22/12 | 17:58] <Kadew> Meadow, is this sorta what you meant with fattening the leg http://i.imgur.com/HquVD.png
[11/22/12 | 17:58] <CBMeadow> Believe so
[11/22/12 | 17:58] <Kadew> compared with http://i.imgur.com/XDf44.png
[11/22/12 | 17:59] <CBMeadow> Yep
[11/22/12 | 17:59] <Kadew> I see what you meant about the leg being skinny, but I'm not sure I like it peeking on the side like that
[11/22/12 | 17:59] <Kadew> also disregard that color
[11/22/12 | 17:59] <Kadew> I got bored and splashed poop brown all over that image
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[11/22/12 | 18:00] <CBMeadow> I think I prefer the peeking
[11/22/12 | 18:00] <CBMeadow> but I'm not positive
[11/22/12 | 18:00] <Kadew> I know I like it fatter
[11/22/12 | 18:00] <Kadew> maybe I could slide the foot over to hide the peeking, but keep the fatter leg...
[11/22/12 | 18:00] <CBMeadow> Try it, can't hurt
[11/22/12 | 18:01] <DHR> Night guys
[11/22/12 | 18:02] <DHR> Have fun making pretty pictures :D
[11/22/12 | 18:02] <CBMeadow> 'Night
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[11/22/12 | 18:09] <Kadew> nooooooo
[11/22/12 | 18:09] <Kadew> moving and rotating the foot went and got anti-aliasing all over it
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[11/22/12 | 18:10] <CBMeadow> D:
[11/22/12 | 18:10] <Mos_Quitoxe> D:?
[11/22/12 | 18:10] <Flarephoenix> o_o
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[11/22/12 | 18:10] <CBMeadow> Kadew nooooooo 18:09 Kadew moving and rotating the foot went and got anti-aliasing all over it
[11/22/12 | 18:10] <CBMeadow> drawing
[11/22/12 | 18:10] <Kadew> I try to keep the lineart in just pure black/pure white so that the paintbucket fills them properly
[11/22/12 | 18:10] <CBMeadow> yay!
[11/22/12 | 18:11] <Kadew> but now the foot is all blurred edges and the paintbukkit will leave little white spots when I flat it
[11/22/12 | 18:11] <Mos_Quitoxe> well that's what happens when you draw at too low resolution
[11/22/12 | 18:11] <Kadew> Also hi thar Mos_Quitoxe
[11/22/12 | 18:11] <Mos_Quitoxe> or are you trying a hard-pixel outline style?
[11/22/12 | 18:11] <CBMeadow> Flat it on a different layer
[11/22/12 | 18:11] <CBMeadow> below the lineart one
[11/22/12 | 18:11] <Mos_Quitoxe> like what nastyjungle does
[11/22/12 | 18:12] <Kadew> hard-pixel outline at high resolution, then shrink it so then the lines look smooth
[11/22/12 | 18:12] <Kadew> currently working at like 4x as big as what final will be
[11/22/12 | 18:12] <Mos_Quitoxe> do you not have the option for smooth lines to start with, or is this simply a design choice?
[11/22/12 | 18:13] <Kadew> design choice
[11/22/12 | 18:13] <Mos_Quitoxe> fair enough
[11/22/12 | 18:13] <Mos_Quitoxe> also did you ever get your tablet fixed?
[11/22/12 | 18:13] <Kadew> bought a new one
[11/22/12 | 18:13] <Mos_Quitoxe> ok
[11/22/12 | 18:13] <Mos_Quitoxe> :)
[11/22/12 | 18:13] <Kadew> also, what I"m workign on is this http://i.imgur.com/HquVD.png
[11/22/12 | 18:14] <CBMeadow> I have a tablet now Mos :>
[11/22/12 | 18:14] <Mos_Quitoxe> if you added it to the end of that sentence then it didn't show
[11/22/12 | 18:14] <Mos_Quitoxe> bloody mibbit
[11/22/12 | 18:14] <Kadew> http://i.imgur.com/HquVD .png
[11/22/12 | 18:14] <CBMeadow> http://i.imgur.com/HquVD. png
[11/22/12 | 18:14] <CBMeadow> aw
[11/22/12 | 18:14] <Mos_Quitoxe> and that's nice to hear, CB!
[11/22/12 | 18:15] <Mos_Quitoxe> aha
[11/22/12 | 18:16] <CBMeadow> I didn't say I was good at it
[11/22/12 | 18:16] <Kadew> hey, do you want to see my first ever tablet drawing? (hint: you don't)
[11/22/12 | 18:16] <CBMeadow> I DO
[11/22/12 | 18:17] <Kadew> it's five years old
[11/22/12 | 18:17] <Kadew> back when I was on deviantart and was retarded and awful at drawing
[11/22/12 | 18:17] <CBMeadow> SHOW ME
[11/22/12 | 18:17] <CBMeadow> I DEMAND THEE
[11/22/12 | 18:18] <Brbkal> yo I'm back
[11/22/12 | 18:18] <Kadew> oh goodness my eyes are bleeding just going through my ancient deviantart gallery
[11/22/12 | 18:18] <Kadew> ohhhh I feel like vomiting
[11/22/12 | 18:18] <CBMeadow> http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/f/20...ow-d3bvjla.png This is the oldest thing in mine
[11/22/12 | 18:19] <Kadew> http://tinyurl.com/awfulgarbage
[11/22/12 | 18:19] <Mos_Quitoxe> that's pretty good for emulating vasquez
[11/22/12 | 18:19] <Kadew> I was really really bad five years ago ;-;
[11/22/12 | 18:19] <jas61292> haha
[11/22/12 | 18:19] <CBMeadow> that's pretty hilarious : P
[11/22/12 | 18:19] <Mos_Quitoxe> kadew that is endearing
[11/22/12 | 18:19] <Mos_Quitoxe> not bad
[11/22/12 | 18:19] <CBMeadow> (not compared to my later imitations)
[11/22/12 | 18:19] <Mos_Quitoxe> it's sincere ' v'
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[11/22/12 | 18:21] <Mos_Quitoxe> unortunately I canno join in
[11/22/12 | 18:21] <Kadew> not all my junk from back then was bad
[11/22/12 | 18:21] <Kadew> http://tinyurl.com/lessgarbage is one of the best ones
[11/22/12 | 18:21] <Mos_Quitoxe> all my early stuf I deleted like a sensible person
[11/22/12 | 18:21] <jas61292> aww
[11/22/12 | 18:21] <Mos_Quitoxe> happyarados ' v '
[11/22/12 | 18:21] <bugmaniacbob> what are we discussing
[11/22/12 | 18:21] <Brbkal> guys
[11/22/12 | 18:21] <Brbkal> final product on fawksbite:
[11/22/12 | 18:21] <bugmaniacbob> and why is that so cute
[11/22/12 | 18:21] <Brbkal> http://pastebin.com/7VdnyHUN
[11/22/12 | 18:21] <jas61292> We made a Pokemon bmb
[11/22/12 | 18:22] <Brbkal> anything else
[11/22/12 | 18:22] <Brbkal> need to be addressed
[11/22/12 | 18:22] <Kadew> froxbite was decided to be a better name than fawkbite
[11/22/12 | 18:22] <Brbkal> oh ok
[11/22/12 | 18:22] <bugmaniacbob> also Birkal
[11/22/12 | 18:22] <Brbkal> yeah I like that too
[11/22/12 | 18:22] <CBMeadow> Correct the Black entry to Its fur coat
[11/22/12 | 18:22] <bugmaniacbob> if you saw
[11/22/12 | 18:22] <CBMeadow> not it's
[11/22/12 | 18:22] <Kadew> and I think ice/fire would be better than fire/ice
[11/22/12 | 18:22] <bugmaniacbob> I just spent quite a few hours updating Necturna
[11/22/12 | 18:22] <Kadew> looks more icy than firey
[11/22/12 | 18:22] <Kadew> if we're being dumb here
[11/22/12 | 18:22] <bugmaniacbob> if you could have a look at it in a bit
[11/22/12 | 18:22] <bugmaniacbob> that would be nice
[11/22/12 | 18:22] <bugmaniacbob> all sets are now ~1200 words
[11/22/12 | 18:22] <Brbkal> yeah for sure
[11/22/12 | 18:22] <Brbkal> =)
[11/22/12 | 18:22] <bugmaniacbob> if that helps
[11/22/12 | 18:23] <Brbkal> sure Ice/Fire
[11/22/12 | 18:23] <jas61292> Yeah, that's a good point Kadew
[11/22/12 | 18:23] <bugmaniacbob> aww that fox thing is cute
[11/22/12 | 18:23] <bugmaniacbob> is this 12-hour CAP or whatever it was
[11/22/12 | 18:23] <Kadew> More like 1 hour cap
[11/22/12 | 18:23] <bugmaniacbob> or were you just celebrating my absence
[11/22/12 | 18:24] <bugmaniacbob> 70 HP / 135 Atk / 63 Def / 120 SpA / 75 SpD / 112 Spe
[11/22/12 | 18:24] <jas61292> Its been around 2 hours
[11/22/12 | 18:24] <bugmaniacbob> qu'est-ce que
[11/22/12 | 18:24] <bugmaniacbob> what
[11/22/12 | 18:24] <bugmaniacbob> what kind of
[11/22/12 | 18:24] <bugmaniacbob> what
[11/22/12 | 18:24] <Brbkal> lol
[11/22/12 | 18:24] <jas61292> lol
[11/22/12 | 18:24] <Kadew> hahaha
[11/22/12 | 18:24] <CBMeadow> He's hiding machine guns in his fur
[11/22/12 | 18:24] <jas61292> The BST is a bit high...
[11/22/12 | 18:24] <jas61292> :p
[11/22/12 | 18:25] <Kadew> maybe we should make it only physical, or only special
[11/22/12 | 18:25] <Kadew> that would reduce the bst a lot
[11/22/12 | 18:25] <bugmaniacbob> you guys sort of lost semblance of reality after a bit, I can tell
[11/22/12 | 18:25] <jas61292> You know what it needs? Less SpD.
[11/22/12 | 18:25] <Brbkal> lol
[11/22/12 | 18:25] <Brbkal> less spd
[11/22/12 | 18:25] <Brbkal> ok
[11/22/12 | 18:25] <paintseagull> not exactly, we kind of started that way
[11/22/12 | 18:25] <Kadew> haha
[11/22/12 | 18:25] <Brbkal> how much less
[11/22/12 | 18:25] <bugmaniacbob> it totally needs Quiver Dance
[11/22/12 | 18:25] <bugmaniacbob> also
[11/22/12 | 18:25] <Brbkal> n
[11/22/12 | 18:25] <Brbkal> no set up moves
[11/22/12 | 18:25] <Brbkal> besides swords dance
[11/22/12 | 18:26] <Brbkal> and howl
[11/22/12 | 18:26] <bugmaniacbob> this needs to go on-site somewhere
[11/22/12 | 18:26] <Brbkal> aroooooooo
[11/22/12 | 18:26] <Brbkal> it is going in
[11/22/12 | 18:26] <Brbkal> the kitchen
[11/22/12 | 18:26] <Brbkal> as soon as we are done :>
[11/22/12 | 18:26] <bugmaniacbob> SEE BIRKAL
[11/22/12 | 18:26] <Brbkal> jas, what should SpD be
[11/22/12 | 18:26] <paintseagull> you know what would be amazing
[11/22/12 | 18:26] <jas61292> Hmm... 55 SpD would put the BST at a nice 555
[11/22/12 | 18:26] <Brbkal> YES
[11/22/12 | 18:26] <Brbkal> done
[11/22/12 | 18:26] <bugmaniacbob> THAT THREAD DOES HAVE A PURPOSE DOESN'T IT
[11/22/12 | 18:26] <bugmaniacbob> sorry
[11/22/12 | 18:26] <bugmaniacbob> I'm sad I missed that now
[11/22/12 | 18:26] <Brbkal> lol
[11/22/12 | 18:26] <paintseagull> if we did 50 or so 1-hour CAPS and put them in a simulator
[11/22/12 | 18:26] <Brbkal> we will do another one
[11/22/12 | 18:26] <Brbkal> some day
[11/22/12 | 18:27] <Brbkal> psg o-_o
[11/22/12 | 18:27] <jas61292> I'd play that
[11/22/12 | 18:27] <bugmaniacbob> but I had to get Necturna done and... I'm sure that my presence would have hurt proceedings in some fashion
[11/22/12 | 18:27] <jas61292> I'd play that so much
[11/22/12 | 18:27] <bugmaniacbob> also this should go on the simulator
[11/22/12 | 18:27] <bugmaniacbob> as an easter egg
[11/22/12 | 18:27] <bugmaniacbob> put it on the simulator during easter
[11/22/12 | 18:27] <bugmaniacbob> in randbats
[11/22/12 | 18:27] <Brbkal> lol
[11/22/12 | 18:27] <Kadew> hahaha
[11/22/12 | 18:27] <Brbkal> ok I am gonna post

[SgtWoodsy]

Fire Rush needs to be renamed Heatseeker because it's cooler.

[FurretFan300]

Im new to CAP and I cant offer art or tech stuff but I have ideas. Lots of them. And I can come up with new ones really easily so if anybody has something I can work with, I'll hear you out

[Birkal*]

Originally Posted by Fat FurretFan300

Im new to CAP and I cant offer art or tech stuff but I have ideas. Lots of them. And I can come up with new ones really easily so if anybody has something I can work with, I'll hear you out

Hiya! You'll have to keep on the look out for official project threads; we'll be starting on some pre-evolutions for Aurumoth shortly. Until then, you can always share your stuff in this thread. Welcome to Smogon =)

EDIT: Also did a few minor updates. Wyverii refused to settle on the sprite she made, and we decided in #cap to change it to Flare Rush because it's a lot cooler. Sorry SgtWoodsy; Heatseeker was my second choice.

[Darkhuaza517]

So can we discuss Aurumoth's prevolutions on this forum?

[jagged_angel]

Heatseeker is clearly reserved for a potential Fire type Pursuit!

Flare Dash is a good name - Flare Rush sounds like Dragon Rush which doesn't have priority. Just sayin.

Froxbite is great - I am impressed! Speed-CAPing should definitely become a thing. Particularly for rainy sunday afternoons.

Question - does an unboosted Flare Dash always OHKO Scizor outside of rain?

[jas61292]

Originally Posted by Fat jagged_angel

Question - does an unboosted Flare Dash always OHKO Scizor outside of rain?

Surprisingly, no. However, it depends on the set, and in most practical situations, it is probably taking Scizor out. If we assume 252/0 Scizor, then unboosted 0 SpA Flare Dash does 69.76 - 83.72%. Even with 252 SpA and Modest it does 95.34 - 112.79%, meaning Scizor has a chance to survive. However, as you would expect, items can really help out. With a Life Orb, you only need 100 EVs and a neutral nature to get the OHKO guaranteed.

Though one thing I was noticing after having made this move is that despite how awesome it seems, I don't think it would really get too much use. Beating a Scizor Bullet Punch is the only key thing it does, and while it is frail, one of the few competitive things I did calc while making it was that with 70/63 defenses, CB Scizor cannot KO from full health with Bullet Punch. Now of course, not taking 99% damage is preferable, but in general Froxbite is fast enough that priority might be wasted on it. Who knows though?

Originally Posted by Fat Darkhuaza517

So can we discuss Aurumoth's prevolutions on this forum?

While a mod may feel free to correct me if this is wrong, I think that is just the kind of thing this thread is for, so go right ahead. Hopefully I will be getting the prevos started before too long, but, especially until then, there is no better place to talk about them than here.