Slowking (Update) - UNRESERVED (QC 0/3)

~~Asterat~~ · Sep 24th, 2012, 9:43:48 PM

http://www.smogon.com/gs/pokemon/slowking

Updates:
Calm mind is very good
can no longer surely wall moltres with hazards because of hurricane :(
Specs is best set
trick>grass knot on specs
psyshock>HP grass on nasty plot

[SET]
name: Choice specs
move 1: Surf
move 2: Psyshock
move 3: Fire Blast
move 4: Trick
item: Choice Specs
ability: Regenarator
nature: Modest
evs: 248 HP / 252 SAtk / 8 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
- Slowking's best set and very powerful
- Better than bulky because slowking is often 2HKOed with moltres hurricane without hazards
- Even with no SpD or Def investment slowking is very bulky and plays like a tank
- Regenarator makes slowking an exceptional tank, because it is not worn down as much by entry hazards
- Surf is strong STAB and so is psyshock. Fire blast roasts tangrowth ferroseed, and others. Trick is used over grass knot HP grass because they sucked
- Flamethrower is still strong enough to hit most grass types for OHKO without specs
- EVs allow for maximum bulk and power

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
- 248 Hp to switch into stealth rock more
- Pokemons that can take less than 50% from specs slowking attacks

...

Yeah pretty strong dude. pokes in RU in bold. Pokes in NU in smnaller font
[SET]
name: Defensive
move 1: Scald
move 2: Psyshock/Fire Blast
move 3: Slack off
move 4: Toxic/Calm Mind/Thunder Wave
item: Leftovers
ability: Regenerator
nature: Calm
evs: 248 HP / 144 Def / 116 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]
- Standard defensive slowking, very good
- Can wall lots of threats because of amazing defensive typing (resistance to fire fight and water)
- Not as good as it was because moltres can 2HKO
- Even super effective STAB moves will often fail to KO slowking
- Scald is standard STAB defensive for water types
- Psyshock is other STAB and is used over psychic for pokemon like gallade
- Slack off recovers health
- Toxic cripples annoying walls
- Calm mind allows slowking to sweep as many peoples switch ins are special attackers
- Thunder wave slows down faster threats
- Fire blast could be used for tangrwoth, escavalier, and ferroseed

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
- 248 HP for stealth rock
- Slowking gets dragon tail which could work for phazing
- Slowking has lots of other moves as well
- Tangrowtrh utterly walls this set although it hates being burned or poisoned
[SET]
name: Nasty Plot
move 1: Nasty Plot
move 2: Surf
move 3: Psyshock/Trick Room
move 4: Fire Blast/Trick Room
item: Leftovers
ability: Regenerator
nature: Modest
evs: 248 HP / 252 SAtk / 8 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]
- Slowking has access to nasty plot
- With a meh special attack stat after two special attack boosts it is dangerous
- Nasty plot boosts slowkings special attack (really?)
- Surf hits targets as slowkings best water STAB (no hydro pump)
- Psyshock hits water types that would otherwise wall this set
- Fire blast hits tangrwoth, ferroseed, and, escavalier
- Trick room could be used because slowking is a slow sh*t

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
- Leftovers give recovery
Life orb could be used but slowking has amazing bulk and resistances and not taking advantage of them is silly. It could work with trick room but again the resistances are too good
- 248 for stealth rock
- Speed lowering nature should be used with trick room
- Could use slack off (should I slash this last on moves 3 and 4?)
- HP grass or grass knot could work but their main target is opposing slowking
-should NastyRoom and normal nasty plot be combined? Idk.

[Other Options]
psychic, curse, ice beam, light screen, shadow ball, amnesia, iron defense, psych up, focus blast, dragon tail, magic coat, rain dance
Trick room + 3 attacks
Different EVs
expert belt
defensive trick room

[Checks and Counters]
difficult because of versatility, almost impossible to wall
opposing slowking
when locked into a move, almost anything
CB spiritomb
Easily revenge killed by bug types and electivire
Not easy to revenge kill when using CM
Tangrowth if it lacks fire blast (or isnt locked into it)
Grass types
lanturn
altaria
shelgon

Ready for QC???

Swamp-Rocket · Oct 10th, 2012, 9:35:22 PM

you don't have an overview or any partners listed for any set :o

To be honest, with a different spread, Timid Life Orb Moltres is unable to 2HKO Slowking with Hurricane after Leftovers. So I propose the new spread should be like this...

evs: 248 HP / 76 Def / 184 SpD

With this Moltres can do a maximum of 52.93% damage, enough to avoid a 2HKO from Hurricane since Leftovers heals it. In this case, Moltres is either a) dead after Stealth Rock damage or b) is almost dead after Life Orb damage and a hit from Scald, maybe even paralyzed.

**Pocket** · Nov 11th, 2012, 12:40:26 AM

Asterat quit Smogon temporarily, so Slowking should be re-assigned if it still needs a revamp.

**DittoCrow** · Nov 11th, 2012, 1:29:49 PM

Post here and in the index thread if you want to write this!

Swamp-Rocket · Nov 15th, 2012, 5:48:30 PM

I'll do it, DittoCrow

Sep 24th, 2012, 9:43:48 PM	#1
~~Asterat~~ Banned deucer. Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 495 ♥ Raticate ♥	Slowking (Update) - UNRESERVED (QC 0/3) http://www.smogon.com/gs/pokemon/slowking Updates: Calm mind is very good can no longer surely wall moltres with hazards because of hurricane :( Specs is best set trick>grass knot on specs psyshock>HP grass on nasty plot [SET] name: Choice specs move 1: Surf move 2: Psyshock move 3: Fire Blast move 4: Trick item: Choice Specs ability: Regenarator nature: Modest evs: 248 HP / 252 SAtk / 8 Spe [SET COMMENTS] - Slowking's best set and very powerful - Better than bulky because slowking is often 2HKOed with moltres hurricane without hazards - Even with no SpD or Def investment slowking is very bulky and plays like a tank - Regenarator makes slowking an exceptional tank, because it is not worn down as much by entry hazards - Surf is strong STAB and so is psyshock. Fire blast roasts tangrowth ferroseed, and others. Trick is used over grass knot HP grass because they sucked - Flamethrower is still strong enough to hit most grass types for OHKO without specs - EVs allow for maximum bulk and power [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS] - 248 Hp to switch into stealth rock more - Pokemons that can take less than 50% from specs slowking attacks ... Slowking Zweilous Alomomola Shelgon Regigigas Hypno Mandibuzz Druddigon Grumpig Gardevoir Munchlax Togetic Lickilicky Cradily Lapras Regice Miltank Ludicolo Lanturn Audino Yeah pretty strong dude. pokes in RU in bold. Pokes in NU in smnaller font [SET] name: Defensive move 1: Scald move 2: Psyshock/Fire Blast move 3: Slack off move 4: Toxic/Calm Mind/Thunder Wave item: Leftovers ability: Regenerator nature: Calm evs: 248 HP / 144 Def / 116 SpD [SET COMMENTS] - Standard defensive slowking, very good - Can wall lots of threats because of amazing defensive typing (resistance to fire fight and water) - Not as good as it was because moltres can 2HKO - Even super effective STAB moves will often fail to KO slowking - Scald is standard STAB defensive for water types - Psyshock is other STAB and is used over psychic for pokemon like gallade - Slack off recovers health - Toxic cripples annoying walls - Calm mind allows slowking to sweep as many peoples switch ins are special attackers - Thunder wave slows down faster threats - Fire blast could be used for tangrwoth, escavalier, and ferroseed [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS] - 248 HP for stealth rock - Slowking gets dragon tail which could work for phazing - Slowking has lots of other moves as well - Tangrowtrh utterly walls this set although it hates being burned or poisoned [SET] name: Nasty Plot move 1: Nasty Plot move 2: Surf move 3: Psyshock/Trick Room move 4: Fire Blast/Trick Room item: Leftovers ability: Regenerator nature: Modest evs: 248 HP / 252 SAtk / 8 SpD [SET COMMENTS] - Slowking has access to nasty plot - With a meh special attack stat after two special attack boosts it is dangerous - Nasty plot boosts slowkings special attack (really?) - Surf hits targets as slowkings best water STAB (no hydro pump) - Psyshock hits water types that would otherwise wall this set - Fire blast hits tangrwoth, ferroseed, and, escavalier - Trick room could be used because slowking is a slow sht [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS] - Leftovers give recovery Life orb could be used but slowking has amazing bulk and resistances and not taking advantage of them is silly. It could work with trick room but again the resistances are too good - 248 for stealth rock - Speed lowering nature should be used with trick room - Could use slack off (should I slash this last on moves 3 and 4?) - HP grass or grass knot could work but their main target is opposing slowking -should NastyRoom and normal nasty plot be combined? Idk. [Other Options] psychic, curse, ice beam, light screen, shadow ball, amnesia, iron defense, psych up, focus blast, dragon tail, magic coat, rain dance Trick room + 3 attacks Different EVs expert belt defensive trick room [Checks and Counters] difficult because of versatility, almost impossible to wall opposing slowking when locked into a move, almost anything CB spiritomb Easily revenge killed by bug types and electivire Not easy to revenge kill when using CM Tangrowth if it lacks fire blast (or isnt locked into it) Grass types lanturn altaria shelgon Ready for QC??? Last edited by Asterat; Sep 27th, 2012 at 9:35:05 PM.*

Oct 10th, 2012, 9:35:22 PM	#2
Swamp-Rocket Give me the number for 911! Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 544 USA	you don't have an overview or any partners listed for any set :o To be honest, with a different spread, Timid Life Orb Moltres is unable to 2HKO Slowking with Hurricane after Leftovers. So I propose the new spread should be like this... evs: 248 HP / 76 Def / 184 SpD With this Moltres can do a maximum of 52.93% damage, enough to avoid a 2HKO from Hurricane since Leftovers heals it. In this case, Moltres is either a) dead after Stealth Rock damage or b) is almost dead after Life Orb damage and a hit from Scald, maybe even paralyzed. __________________ kawakimi: UR DUM kawakimi: N WEIRD Completed Analyses: 16 In Progress: 2 Last edited by Swamp-Rocket; Nov 6th, 2012 at 9:45:57 AM.

Nov 11th, 2012, 12:40:26 AM	#3
Pocket Bakuman ;< Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 7,188 Bergenfield	Asterat quit Smogon temporarily, so Slowking should be re-assigned if it still needs a revamp. __________________ Dark Horse Project: Conquer the Ladder! \| Word of Wisdom for Trainers \| Smogon Doubles: Let's Make It Official!

Nov 11th, 2012, 1:29:49 PM	#4
DittoCrow Moderator Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,149 Mentor	Post here and in the index thread if you want to write this! __________________ Last edited by DittoCrow; Nov 11th, 2012 at 4:17:23 PM.

Nov 15th, 2012, 5:48:30 PM	#5
Swamp-Rocket Give me the number for 911! Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 544 USA	I'll do it, DittoCrow __________________ kawakimi: UR DUM kawakimi: N WEIRD Completed Analyses: 16 In Progress: 2