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Old Nov 4th, 2012, 12:25:45 PM   #1
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Ah, sweet youth.

The Challenge
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I need to train, even though I have zero items.

One Open Challenge for thinkers coming up!

4v4 LC Doubles
2 Day DQ (Ref can take 3 IF AND ONLY IF flavour)
3 subs / 1 recovery / 3 Chills per mon
Unown Soup

Items = Training is fine by me.
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Okay I'll drop my second pending challenge to take this one up.

Switch = NO
Abilities = ALL
Items = TRAINING
The Contenders

Fox's Cubs
Overcast the Monohm
Barbarian the Nidoran♂
Flintlock the Magby
Kerchief the Minccino

Zheng's Little Ones
Wendy the Chikorita
Charla the Staryu
Erza the Rebble
Lucy the Ralts


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Ready? FIGHT
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Going three against a Monohm. Failed to win the last two. And they say third time's the charm. Let's make it work. And really, soup is great breakfast, lunch and dinner. Let's go girls (seriously, I have an all girls team here, so yeah.) Charla and Lucy, remember to have fun! Oh, and I'm a poor soul so I can't give my girls any items unless it's allowed for people to loan me any :(


"Keep your pride, and you'd better check on Gray and Natsu - they'll be at each others' throats soon enough."


"Oh, a Poison-type... For their sake, I must hold on! Charla seems much more confident..."
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"Overcast @ EXP Share and Kerchief @ Lucky Egg, its up to you. Boy are three subs excessive in a match like this but we might as well use them!"

Overcast: Thunderbolt (Charala) > Unown Frenzy Plant (Charla) > Dragon Rage (Lucy)
IF
Charla is under the effects of Protective/Evasive action when you would target it THEN Thunderbolt (Lucy) and push actions back
IF Unown F is unavailable when you come to use it THEN use Unown Solar Beam instead

Kerchief: Unown Dark Void > Swift (Lucy) > Tail Slap (Lucy)
IF
Unown D is unavailable when you come to use it THEN use Unown Bolt Strike (Charla) instead
IF Lucy is under the effects of Protective/Evasive action when you would target it THEN redirect to Charla
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Oh no you don't. I'm definitely not going to stand by while you put my girls to sleep with intention to take advantage of them. Shame on you, Kerchief-Minccino, when you're a lady-in-waiting yourself, chaperoned by such a gentlemanly elder. And I did ask for a thinking match - hence we're standing above a cauldron of bubbling stew with three bits of wits about us to prepare for almost every contingency. But that Technical Skill you have with your tail is quite intriguing. Let's see if Lucy-Ralts can Trace that while Charla-Staryu dazzles you with her brilliance!


"Better make sure Wendy and the others have an easier time. Though Erza can probably do this better."

"May I have this dance for you, young miss? We could learn much from each other."


Charla-Staryu [Activate Ability - Illuminate] : Scald (Kerchief-Monohm) > Unown Mirror Coat > Aurora Beam (Overcast-Monohm)
IF Unown Frenzy Plant missed Charla-Staryu A2, THEN replace A2 with Aurora Beam (Overcast-Monohm)
Lucy-Ralts [Activate Ability - Trace Technician Minccino] : Unown Wide Guard > Will-O-Wisp (Kerchief-Minccino) > Icy Wind (Both)
IF Kerchief-Minccino is already Burned at A1, THEN redirect to Overcast-Monohm
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I am so reffing this in the morning.
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Pre-Round

"I'm fluffy!"
-Overcast @ -
HP: 90
EN: 100
Abilities: Shield Dust / Static
Stats: 1 / 3 / 3 / 3
Body: Size 1 / Weight 2
Speed: 60
Status:
Modifiers:
Actions: Thunderbolt (Staryu) | Unown Frenzy Plant (Staryu) > Dragon Rage (Ralts)


"I'm furry!"
-Kerchief @ -
HP: 90
EN: 100
Abilities: Cute Charm / Technician
Stats: 2 / 2 / 2 / 1
Body: Size / Weight
Speed: 87 / +17 Accuracy
Status:
Modifiers:
Actions: Unown Dark Void | Swift | Tail Slap (Ralts)

VS.


"Better make sure Wendy and the others have an easier time."
-Charla-
HP: 90
EN: 100
Abilities: Illuminate / Natural Cure
Stats: 1 / 2 / 4 / 2
Body: Size 2 / Weight 3
Speed: 85
Status:
Modifiers:
Actions: [Activate Ability - Illuminate] | Scald (Minccino) | Unown Mirror Coat | Aurora Beam (Monohm)


"May I have this dance for you, young miss?"
-Lucy-
HP: 90
EN: 100
Abilities: Synchronize / Trace
Stats: 1 / 2 / 2 / 2
Body: Size 1 / Weight 1
Speed: 34 / -10 Evade
Status:
Modifiers:
Actions: [Activate Ability - Trace: Technician] | Unown Wide Guard | Will-O-Wisp (Monohm) | Icy Wind



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"And they're off!"

Some notes:
Swift hits all opponents in doubles
"IF Unown Frenzy Plant missed Charla-Staryu A2, THEN replace A2 with Aurora Beam (Overcast-Monohm)" is an illegal substitution, so Staryu uses Mirror Coat A2


Round 1 Calculations


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Post Round

"Hot hot hot!"
-Overcast @ -
HP: 65
EN: 80
Abilities: Shield Dust / Static
Stats: 1 / 3 / 3 / 3
Body: Size 1 / Weight 2
Speed: 34
Status: Burned
Modifiers: -1 Speed, -1 Accuracy
Actions: Thunderbolt (Staryu) | Unown Frenzy Plant (Staryu) > Dragon Rage (Ralts)


"MY TAIL IS ON FIRE"
-Kerchief @ -
HP: 47
EN: 78
Abilities: Cute Charm / Technician
Stats: 2 / 2 / 2 / 1
Body: Size / Weight
Speed: 49 / +17 Accuracy
Status: Burned
Modifiers: -1 Speed, -1 Accuracy
Actions: Unown Dark Void | Swift | Tail Slap (Ralts)


VS.


"That stings."
-Charla-
HP: 60
EN: 74
Abilities: Illuminate / Natural Cure
Stats: 1 / 2 / 4 / 2
Body: Size 2 / Weight 3
Speed: 85
Status:
Modifiers:
Actions: [Activate Ability - Illuminate] | Scald (Minccino) | Unown Mirror Coat | Aurora Beam (Monohm)


"Charla..?"
-Lucy-
HP: 61
EN: 74
Abilities: Synchronize / Trace (Technician 3a)
Stats: 1 / 2 / 2 / 2
Body: Size 1 / Weight 1
Speed: 34 / -10 Evade
Status: Tracing Technician
Modifiers:
Actions: [Activate Ability - Trace: Technician] | Unown Wide Guard | Will-O-Wisp (Monohm) | Icy Wind

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Well, it appears that we have some speed advantage for now. Let's see if the fates favour us totally. But in the meantime, let's do something about Overcast-Monohm's annoying shocks. Also, we need to ensure my girls' longetivity. By my calculations, this should bring them both to knockout range by the next round, and after that things should go a lot smoother. Alright, Charla-Staryu, let's try tossing Kerchief-Minccino into the soup with your Psychic attack. Hopefully the stew will drench her fur and make her a better conductor to future Electric-type attacks. (You better acknowledge this even if you didn't approve, Box.)

EDIT : Tail Slap from Kerchief-Minccino minus Burn nerf (-3 BPA) 1 less damage. Sorry nitpick.


"No ref should put words into my mouth. Time to set the record and show Wendy that cloud dragons are not invulnerable."

"Doing fine as always, Charla - impressive posture! Now remember to go through the steps slowly - take it easy."

Charla-Stayu : Unown Imprison (Thunderbolt, Swift, Thunder Wave) > Aurora Beam (Overcast-Monohm) > Aurora Beam (Overcast-Monohm)
IF Charla-Staryu is targeted with Snatch A1 THEN use Unown Ice Beam (Overcast-Monohm) instead at A1.
IF Charla-Staryu is Tormented THEN replace A3 with Swift (both).

Lucy-Ralts : Heal Pulse (Charla-Staryu) > Icy Wind (both) > Icy Wind (both)
IF Lucy-Ralts is targeted with Taunt THEN use Unown Protect and push remaining actions back.

IF Lucy-Ralts is targeted with Snatch THEN use Icy Wind (both) and push remaining actions back.
IF Lucy-Ralts is Tormented THEN replace second instance of Icy Wind with Confusion (Kerchief-Minccino).
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"I think it is me doing the healing today and not you. Sorry friend."

Overcast: Volt Switch (Charla) > Volt Switch (Charla) > Unown Giga Drain (Charla)
Kerchief: Unown Heal Block > Encore (Lucy) > Helping Hand (Overcast)
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How the hell do I keep missing this? Reffing soon, I'm really really sorry.
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God damn you guys are going to need a subref for this. I simply have too much shit on-hand atm.

I'm really sorry :/
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Subreffing this. Also I hate formats with too many tags, so I'll change this into a less pretty yet simpler layout, k? tks

Deadfox081's Team

Hp: 65
En: 80
1/3/3/3/60(34.28)
Other: Burn, -1acc, -1spe
Item: Exp. Share


Hp: 47
En: 78
2/2/2/1/87(49.7)
Other: Burn, -1acc, -1spe
Item: Lucky Egg

Box's Team

Hp: 60
En: 74
1/2/4/2/85
Other:
Item:


Hp: 61
En: 74
1/2/2/2/34
Other: Technician for 3a
Item:

My ref queue is saying to me that I can't do flavor. Sorry!

data


Deadfox081's Team

Hp: 46
En: 56
1/3/3/3/60
Other: Burn
Item: Exp. Share


Hp: 41
En: 47
2/2/2/1/87(49.7)
Other: Burn, -1spe
Item: Lucky Egg

Box's Team
Heal Block for 3r

Hp: KO
En: KO
1/2/4/2/85
Other:
Item:


Hp: 61
En: 25
1/2/2/2/34
Other:
Item:

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Heal Block only covers opponent's however so Monohm should have still healed. Also Imprison goes away since Staryu is KOed.

But mostly thanks for subreffing!
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Quote:
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Oy, that was supposed to be me. Minccino should be back to normal speed, and deadfox was right - Heal Block only affects my team, though I don't know about the Imprison thing...

Anyway, I'm sending out Wendy-Chikorita.

"Charla's sacrifice must not be in vain.."

EDIT: According to C$FP on IRC, Imprison does expire when the user faints. So bad for me :(
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My understanding of Imprison is basically an aura that a mon lets out preventing opponents from using a certain number of moves that said mon knows. Hence why it is able to effect both of my mons. I'll hold off on ordering until this is confirmed.
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1) I misread the Heal Block description. Fixed.

2) Imprison is a target-self attack. If the "self" targetted goes back to the pokeball, whatever effect it had goes with it. So no Imprison. Fixed.

3) I don't know why I put Box <_>
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"Okay then, lets capitalise on this strong position."

Overcast: Unown Shadow Force (Lucy) > Flamethrower (Wendy) > Thunderbolt (Lucy)
IF
Unown S is unavailable THEN use Unown Night Daze (Lucy)

Kerchief: Swift > Unown Bug Buzz (Lucy) > Swift
IF
Lucy uses Protective/Evasive action THEN use Unown Pursuit (Lucy)
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A strong position, you say? Well they do say there are all forms of strength, and ordering second is always a strength of the mind. Time to turn your Pursuing tactics against you, by Protecting Lucy herself.

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Wendy-Chikorita: Light Screen > PoisonPowder (Lucy-Ralts) > Magical Leaf (Kerchief Minccino)
Lucy-Ralts: Confusion (Kerchief-Minccino) > Chill > Unown Protect
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Round is up.

Deadfox081's Team

Hp: 46
En: 56
1/3/3/3/60
Other: Burn
Item: Exp. Share


Hp: 41
En: 47
2/2/2/1/87(49.7)
Other: Burn, -1spe
Item: Lucky Egg

ZT's Team
Heal Block for 3r

Hp: 90
En: 100
1/3/2/4/45
Other:
Item:


Hp: 61
En: 25
1/2/2/2/34
Other:
Item:

data


Deadfox081's Team

Hp: 40
En: 33
1/3/3/3/60
Other: Burn
Item: Exp. Share


Hp: 15
En: 32
2/2/2/1/87(49.7)
Other: Burn
Item: Lucky Egg

ZT's Team
Heal Block for 2r
Light Screen for 3a

Hp: 71
En: 82
1/3/2/4/45
Other:
Item:


Hp: 22
En: 25
1/2/2/2/34
Other: poison
Item:

ZT's Turn!
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I probably should've read Bulbapedia and Veekun more, but DAT's description is so damned foggy. Also, Mincccino's Swift should've dealt (9*0.75)+3+(3-3) = 9.75 damage to Ralts A1, resulting in 22 HP after the round (I know, only one extra HP, but I'm about that desperate).

Still, placeholder for my actions. (EDIT: Okay no need to wait for that one extra HP, time to go suicidal. At least this one will be a 2-0 at least)
And thus we all crossed our fingers, crossed our heart, held our palms together. The odds are even, but I'm backed and will not falter. Lucy, remember to use your last energies as should be. I... I'm not what you wished for in a trainer.

"It's okay, we'll be alright. It's not that bad to lose fairly, when we are going against a Pike victor..."

"Hey... Shh... I chose to go my way. That's how we live, right? Fall back down, and choose to get back up again. Besides, there's Erza."

Wendy-Chikorita: Magical Leaf (Kerchief-Minccino) > PoisonPowder (Overcast-Monohm) > AncientPower (Overcast-Monohm)
IF Kerchief-Minccino is under the effects of Protective/Evasive actions A1, THEN replace orders with PoisonPowder (Overcast-Monohm) > Magical Leaf (Kerchief Minccino) > AncientPower (Overcast-Monohm)
Lucy-Ralts: Teleport + Icy Wind {Key of Aquarius: Swift Tidal Freeze!!} (both) > combo cooldown (Chill) > Confusion (Overcast-Monohm)
IF Kerchief-Minccino is under the effects of Protective/Evasive actions A1, THEN replace orders with Confusion (Overcast-Monohm) > Teleport + Icy Wind {Key of Aquarius: Swift Tidal Freeze!!} (both) > combo cooldown (Chill)
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"Well that combo seems all kinds of ridiculous, but no sense taking any chances."

Overcast: Unown Aromatherapy > Dragon Rage (Lucy) > Sonicboom (Wendy)

Kerchief: Endure > Helping Hand (Overcast) > Unown V-create (Wendy)


Ps Frosty, would be great if you could keep some kind of official list of the used up Unowns in your reffing.
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Hp: 40
En: 33
1/3/3/3/60
Other: Burn
Item: Exp. Share


Hp: 15
En: 32
2/2/2/1/87
Other: Burn
Item: Lucky Egg

ZT's Team
Heal Block for 2r
Light Screen for 3a

Hp: 71
En: 82
1/3/2/4/45
Other:
Item:


Hp: 22
En: 25
1/2/2/2/34
Other: poison
Item:

Unown: A B C E J K L N O Q R T U V X Y Z

Kerchief the Minccino starts this round by pumping up adrenaline to Endure all future assaults. TBH I don't know why, since it won't be hit that much, BUT, better be safe than sorry I guess.

As part B of the "keep-mincinno-around" master plan, Overcast grabs one Unown and use Aromatherapy to create a soothing aroma that heals Deadfox's team.

Unown A: "Unooooown" (translation: I suggest you don't ask how I managed to wipe out that aroma!)

....oh god *gasp*.

...anyway, unaware of Deadfox's plan, Wendy continues to follow her orders, as she throws a couple Magical Leafs toward the Minccino, cutting in more than one location, but not enough to make it falter. Lucy, in the other hand, tried a combo that, and I quote, was "all kinds of ridiculous". Since she couldn't combine both Teleport and Icy Wind (and c'mon those attacks have nothing to do with each other), she decides to just use Teleport now to go back to the pokeball for a quick rest than to the battle feeling...pretty much the same. plus poison.

On the second turn, Overcast and Kerchief joins forces to bypass Light Screen and defeat Ralts with Helping Hand and then Dragon Rage. Rawr.

Now alone, Wendy doesn't give up and continue the assault by poisoning the Monohm with Poisonpowder.

Finally, Minccino grabs an Unown, the V one and holding it tight, proceeds to attack Wendy with V-Create, using the Unown's power.

Unown-V: Unoooown (translation: for Victory!)

or something like that.

Overcast also attacks with Sonicboom and in return is hit by a...rather weak Ancientpower

...things are NOT looking good for ZhengTann. That is for sure.


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Deadfox081's Team

Hp: 31
En: 15
1/3/3/3/60
Other: Poison
Item: Exp. Share


Hp: 4
En: 1
2/2/2/1/87
Other: can't endure for 1r, -1def, spdef and spe for 2r
Item: Lucky Egg

ZT's Team
Heal Block for 1r

Hp: 36
En: 68
1/3/2/4/45
Other:
Item:


Hp: KO
En: KO
1/2/2/2/34
Other: poison
Item:

Unown: B C E J K L N O Q R T U X Y Z

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"Perhaps we should have calculated if Endure was actually necessary. Looks like we are probably both going down this round anyhow."

Overcast: Flamethrower (Lucy) > Hydro Pump (Erza) > Flamethrower (Lucy)
Kerchief: Unown Doom Desire (Erza) > Mud Slap (Erza) > Mud Slap (Erza)
IF
Unown D is unavailable THEN Unown Superpower (Erza)
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Oh come on, I just expected to have a boosted priority weak attack - and even that was too much? Dodge is non-combinable, for sure, but even the ASB Council is ruling out Teleport / Agility's evasive maneuvers should it is combo'ed with an attack to give increased priority. Sigh... But thank you for making a leftover-Unown list. Alright, we've worn them down this much, so let's just end this as quick as possible while safeguarding ourselves whenever possible. Wendy, activate the double screening, to minimise our damage input while Erza goes all out.


"Twice the odds put against us... Still, they're not going to laugh for having the fates in their favour."

"Hit fast, hit hard, they say. They've been a good team, but we're not shirking away for that."

Wendy-Chikorita: Light Screen > Reflect > Chill
Erza-Rebble: Vacuum Wave (Kerchief-Minccino) > Mud Shot (Overcast-Monohm) > Mud Shot (Overcast-Monohm)
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Old Dec 3rd, 2012, 6:12:42 PM   #24
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Hp: 31
En: 15
1/3/3/3/60
Other: Poison
Item: Exp. Share


Hp: 4
En: 1
2/2/2/1/87(49.7)
Other: can't endure for 1r, -1def, spdef and spe for 2r
Item: Lucky Egg

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Heal Block for 1r

Hp: 36
En: 68
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Hp: KO
En: KO
1/3/3/3/60
Other: Poison
Item: Exp. Share


Hp: KO
En: KO
2/2/2/1/87(49.7)
Other: can't endure for 1r, -1def, spdef and spe for 2r
Item: Lucky Egg

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Old Dec 4th, 2012, 8:36:13 AM   #25
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"Well, dual screens are going to be a little tough to get through but lets see what we can manage. Barbarian you can have a Lucky Egg while Flintlock takes an EXP Share. Also this is a good time to point out that Rebble is actually genderless and therefore Rivalry does not hinder me against it."
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