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Join Date: Mar 2009
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Heracross, Chandelure, Zapdos, Flygon, Arcanine (offensive) and Darmanitan have all got to be scarfed or else they are out sped and KO'd by Stone Edge or Close Combat at +2 after SR.
EDIT: This is Jolly LO Virizion. I know that's relying on Stone Edge which isn't a great plan, but just saying it's got a chance.
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Look, guys, what beats Heracross? What beats *everything* that beats Heracross? That is UU right now.
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You win some you lose some, I guess. Virizion does get to set up on a lot of Bulky Waters at the very least, but then it comes to the issue of wanting a Lum Berry for Scald burns, which is what I did for Virizion.
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Join Date: Sep 2012
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Meloetta deserves more love. This is the set I've been using and it absolutely rapes:
Meloetta @ Leftovers Trait: Serene Grace EVs: 252 HP / 252 SDef / 4 SAtk Calm Nature - Calm Mind - Psychic - Thunderbolt - Substitute This can set up on any special attacker in the tier. For example: 252+ SpA Life Orb Zapdos Thunderbolt vs. +1 252 HP / 252+ SpD Meloetta: 97-114 (26 - 30.56%) -- possible 4HKO And even uninvested, 128 SpA is very powerful. After a few boosts, very little can stand up to it. For example: +2 4 SpA Meloetta Psychic vs. 80 HP / 176 SpD Snorlax: 189-223 (39.29 - 46.36%) -- guaranteed 3HKO |
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Join Date: Nov 2012
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Umm why is Blastoise so high? he is way to easy to take out and is almost always defenseless against anything that can do reasonable amounts of damage
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Join Date: Oct 2010
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Join Date: Sep 2010
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Simple he is a) a Rapid spinner b) fills role of bulky water to check the fire types and c) can phase (meaning he's not set up bait). Having those multiple roles in one Poke its little wonder why he'd be quite up there.
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Yea, I echo SJCrew's undying sentiments for Blastoise's spinning capacities. It beats Chandelure with ease and even Frosslass & Cofagrigus if it scores a Scald burn. Even against Sableye, it can use Foresight or Toxic on the switch to spin / wear it down.
What I like most about Blastoise is that it's not set-up bait thanks to Roar. It's also a decent check to quite a few threats, most notably the ubiquitous fire-types. When Spike-stacking be sure to have Blastoise in mind if you want any success in pulling it off. Azelf & Nidoqueen are amazing SR setter for this reason, since Tbolt discourages Blastoise from coming in. Same reason why Roserade and Froslass are great Spikers; Roserade has Giga Drain (or even better, Leaf Storm if Toxic Spikes), and Frosslass can spinblock by virtue of its typing + Taunt or Thunderbolt. Blastoise spins... LIKE A BOSS |
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Join Date: Jan 2011
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Here just to say that Bolt Strike Victini is coming to town, ladies (see Serebii). I doubt Bolt Strike will make much difference but the +30 power is highly appreciated.
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Join Date: Jun 2012
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Wowza, it also has blue flare... and galciate... >.< Probably the worst ice type move ever. Victini would have loved ice beam...
Just for fun... 252 Jolly Choice Band Victini Bolt strike VS 252/252+ Slowbro =60.41-71.57% Guaranteed 2HKO w/o SR! That's incredible, considering it couldn't normally do that with fusion bolt. Factoring in victory star, Bolt strike and fusion flare have a 93% accuracy, not bad. Victini will likely replace fire blast for fusion flare and fusion bolt for bolt strike. It's going to be a tad stronger, I doubt this will push victini to suspect though. |
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Yeah that's pretty cool but I doubt it'll make too much of a difference. I'm thinking it might make Expert Belt sets a bit better but that's about it.
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This is huge ive been testing a Trick Room/ Sunny Day/V-Create/Fusion Bolt Victini and with Bolt Strike It can 2HKO Evrey bulky water in the teir even without sunny Create(Well swampert but he cant switch in when sun is up fearing v create)with Life Orb oh god,This also (Blue Flare) allows vic. To run half a decent specs set.But trick room LO Tini just got a HUGE BOOST in bolt strike as Bolt Strike and 4 SpA Grass Knot 2HKOS ecrey bulky water in the teir and V-Create is as powerfull as ever.
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Wow it gets bolt strike now?
Oh gosh, that would make walling it with bulky waters a little more difficult (whereas Fusion would barely 2hko them and sometimes miss if its scarfed, bolt strike basically nets the 2hko on every single bulky water in UU). Not really a cause for concern, but Victini's a scarier threat now. EDIT: Blue Flare too? Sweeeeet. I am sooo running a pure special attacking set now.
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