5th Gen PRNG Help / Info - RNG Reporter 9.96.5, PPRNG 1.15.0 (Request in first post) - Page 681

Tesseraction · Nov 15th, 2012, 9:08:40 PM

As for wandering NPCs, they don't mess with your IV frame so they shouldn't be hurting anything. It really sounds like you've input something incorrectly.

You can do parameters anywhere, really, as long as you have a reliable way of checking IVs.

If you PM Me your info and the IVs of a caught Pokemon I can try to see if I can find your parameters for you.

**voodoo pimp** · Nov 15th, 2012, 9:10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat TheAllyKat

Curious: is anything other than chances of Shininess affected by trading an egg to another game before hatching it? (Its just a personal quirk but I would prefer to hatch everything I can on the game that I will be bringing to VGC.)

OT and ID/SID (and shininess, by extension) are determined when it hatches, everything else is determined when the egg is first received.

dtruth · Nov 15th, 2012, 9:17:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Tesseraction

As for wandering NPCs, they don't mess with your IV frame so they shouldn't be hurting anything. It really sounds like you've input something incorrectly.

You can do parameters anywhere, really, as long as you have a reliable way of checking IVs.

If you PM Me your info and the IVs of a caught Pokemon I can try to see if I can find your parameters for you.

Yeah input error, happen to be hitting a second before my target....Thanks for the help.

TheAllyKat · Nov 15th, 2012, 9:22:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat voodoo pimp

OT and ID/SID (and shininess, by extension) are determined when it hatches, everything else is determined when the egg is first received.

So, as long as I have entered the ID/SID of game that I want it hatched on on the RNG Reporter (leaving everything else to the data relevant to the game it will be RNG'd on) it will be shiny if that's my aim. That's all I needed to confirm.

kiddu · Nov 15th, 2012, 9:57:52 PM

As long as you're not using international parents.

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Originally Posted by Fat religiousjedi

I might, but you'd have to get on #smogonwifi.

......I take this to mean that 9.96.6 is in the pre-release testing stage, then?

fabv · Nov 15th, 2012, 11:05:01 PM

I need some help please, I'm very familiar with rng. For black/white when I tried to hit a right seed, I presed A in the ds screen. But I'm tring to rng in a R4 (3ds R4iGold) to enter the game in the R4 I must wait 4 seconds (a loading screen appears) then the game runs (the white screen, nintendo logo, etc.) And for that reason I cannot do the calibration for that game (that loading screen before runing the game screws all) any advice? or ti's implosible rng in a R4iGold

**voodoo pimp** · Nov 15th, 2012, 11:40:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat TheAllyKat

So, as long as I have entered the ID/SID of game that I want it hatched on on the RNG Reporter (leaving everything else to the data relevant to the game it will be RNG'd on) it will be shiny if that's my aim. That's all I needed to confirm.

The only other consideration is that you can't use international parents or the shiny charm - since the PID rerolls are checked against the ID/SID of the game you receive the egg on, it won't work properly if you trade it.

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Originally Posted by Fat fabv

I need some help please, I'm very familiar with rng. For black/white when I tried to hit a right seed, I presed A in the ds screen. But I'm tring to rng in a R4 (3ds R4iGold) to enter the game in the R4 I must wait 4 seconds (a loading screen appears) then the game runs (the white screen, nintendo logo, etc.) And for that reason I cannot do the calibration for that game (that loading screen before runing the game screws all) any advice? or ti's implosible rng in a R4iGold

See this post from the previous page.

Lrrr · Nov 16th, 2012, 12:24:34 AM

Is the Eevee you get from Amanita unable to be shiny? RNG'd it and it wasn't shiny

So I guess the Deerling, Jellicent, other DW gifts/interactables can't be shiny either?

Dark Ray · Nov 16th, 2012, 12:45:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Lrrr

Is the Eevee you get from Amanita unable to be shiny? RNG'd it and it wasn't shiny

So I guess the Deerling, Jellicent, other DW gifts/interactables can't be shiny either?

The stationary DW Mandibuzz, Braviary, Musharna and Darmanitan are the only DW Pokemon that can be captured shiny, all others have a shiny lock on them.

Gajeel · Nov 16th, 2012, 5:39:11 AM

If you delete your save file and start a new game, do your parameters change? *prays that they do*

Riski · Nov 16th, 2012, 7:29:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Gajeel

If you delete your save file and start a new game, do your parameters change? *prays that they do*

No, they stay the same.

kiddu · Nov 16th, 2012, 7:45:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat fabv

I need some help please, I'm very familiar with rng. For black/white when I tried to hit a right seed, I presed A in the ds screen. But I'm tring to rng in a R4 (3ds R4iGold) to enter the game in the R4 I must wait 4 seconds (a loading screen appears) then the game runs (the white screen, nintendo logo, etc.) And for that reason I cannot do the calibration for that game (that loading screen before runing the game screws all) any advice? or ti's implosible rng in a R4iGold

No it doesn't. All it does is add to your actual seconds and how early you have to start the game. As long as it stays consistent (and it should until you update something) there's no reason you can't take it into account when calibrating and RNG abusing. You said you were already very familiar with RNG, so you should already be fully aware of this.

It's the other problems in the quote voodoo pimp linked to that'll get you.

**religiousjedi** · Nov 16th, 2012, 10:40:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat kiddu

......I take this to mean that 9.96.6 is in the pre-release testing stage, then?

Not that I know of. I was under the assumption that AllyKat wanted someone with PPRNG to be a guide.

kiddu · Nov 16th, 2012, 10:53:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat religiousjedi

Not that I know of. I was under the assumption that AllyKat wanted someone with PPRNG to be a guide.

But AllyKat also said (s)he was on Windows, so that wouldn't help when RNG Reporter doesn't have the capability for Dream Radar RNG yet.

Gajeel · Nov 16th, 2012, 11:04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Riski

No, they stay the same.

So even the Timer0 stays the same? (I mean the most common one)

Cereza · Nov 16th, 2012, 11:07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Gajeel

So even the Timer0 stays the same? (I mean the most common one)

everything stays the same, Timer0 included

**religiousjedi** · Nov 16th, 2012, 11:10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat kiddu

But AllyKat also said (s)he was on Windows, so that wouldn't help when RNG Reporter doesn't have the capability for Dream Radar RNG yet.

I know that. The help intended would be me searching for the seed and comparing results on my side. That's why I said if (s)he would get on #smogonwifi.

Gajeel · Nov 16th, 2012, 11:10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Cereza

everything stays the same, Timer0 included

I have another question then, one of moral issue... I was planing on starting a new game, and RNGing all the legends again (to use different sets/natures etc). But since the parameters stay the same, then the seeds I used would give me pokemon with the same PIDs (because I RNGed all the legeds as shiny), so are two pokemon with the same PID (but different OT/ID/SID/Nature) considered illegitimate (like on a same team etc, because I assume such a thing shouldn't exist)? If so I will have trouble finding new seeds, because i've used all the good ones (and I don't really feel like doing seeds with 3 impossible keypresses). What would be your views on this?

Cereza · Nov 16th, 2012, 11:14:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Gajeel

I have another question then, one of moral issue... I was planing on starting a new game, and RNGing all the legends again (to use different sets/natures etc). But since the parameters stay the same, then the seeds I used would give me pokemon with the same PIDs (because I RNGed all the legeds as shiny), so are two pokemon with the same PID (but different OT/ID/SID/Nature) considered illegitimate (like on a same team etc, because I assume such a thing shouldn't exist)? If so I will have trouble finding new seeds, because i've used all the good ones (and I don't really feel like doing seeds with 3 impossible keypresses). What would be your views on this?

I would say that everyone who RNGs has used the same seed for various pokemon at least once; there's nothing wrong with that.

Gajeel · Nov 16th, 2012, 11:18:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Cereza

I would say that everyone who RNGs has used the same seed for various pokemon at least once; there's nothing wrong with that.

I have been avoiding that, because I wanted my shiny legends to be unique. But as I said I'm running out of seeds, I still need to do Latios and Azelf and I only have one good seed (31/x/31/31/31/31), and even that one requires two keypresses :/ Guess I'll have to re-use some of the seeds, or go deep into the future (years 2015 and onward)

Gajeel · Nov 16th, 2012, 11:27:55 AM

Ohh I guess I just answered my own question, if the parameters stay the same but my ID/SID changes, then the shiny legends would be on different frames within the same seeds that I use now, and therefor different PIDs (hopefully still a synchronize frame)

Deszaras · Nov 16th, 2012, 3:01:37 PM

How do I handle multiple WNPCs at RNGing? After a while I can handle how one WNPC moves, but three or even four o.O

Gajeel · Nov 16th, 2012, 3:03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Deszaras

How do I handle multiple WNPCs at RNGing? After a while I can handle how one WNPC moves, but three or even four o.O

From my experience they advance the frame to a same state each time you hit your seed... Though I could be wrong, I had no problem using it on Uxie (am guessing there are a lot of wandering NPCs in Nacrene)

The Agonist · Nov 16th, 2012, 3:58:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Deszaras

How do I handle multiple WNPCs at RNGing? After a while I can handle how one WNPC moves, but three or even four o.O

mash A through the season screen, open up your menu as quickly as you can, and sweet scent, and capture whatever you find, and see what PID frame you hit. Then subtract whatever frame you hit from your shiny frame, and do the advance the remaining frames again, after hitting your seed again (don't save after capturing the first Pokémon).

AlternateMew · Nov 16th, 2012, 5:50:36 PM

Is it possible to be trolled by timer0 with the PIDRNG?

I can hit my seed for a flawless spread easily by now, but the moment I try to use chatots on it to change the nature/encounter slot/etc, it screws it up big time, like I hit a totally different seed. This happens consistently, I've tried the same thing a good twenty times. I go from a naive/often dozes off to a mild/impetuous and silly. Using chatots on a different seed, however, works like it should.

Just wondering what is going on with my flawless IV setup.

Nov 15th, 2012, 9:08:40 PM	#17001
Tesseraction Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 496 Aleph-null bottles of rum on the wall, aleph-null bottles of rum..	As for wandering NPCs, they don't mess with your IV frame so they shouldn't be hurting anything. It really sounds like you've input something incorrectly. You can do parameters anywhere, really, as long as you have a reliable way of checking IVs. If you PM Me your info and the IVs of a caught Pokemon I can try to see if I can find your parameters for you. __________________ 毎度、好きやねん。

Nov 16th, 2012, 12:24:34 AM	#17008
Lrrr Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 39	Is the Eevee you get from Amanita unable to be shiny? RNG'd it and it wasn't shiny So I guess the Deerling, Jellicent, other DW gifts/interactables can't be shiny either? Last edited by Lrrr; Nov 16th, 2012 at 12:35:50 AM.

Nov 16th, 2012, 5:39:11 AM	#17010
Gajeel Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 32	If you delete your save file and start a new game, do your parameters change? prays that they do __________________ "I will make this guy my cat!"

Nov 16th, 2012, 11:27:55 AM	#17021
Gajeel Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 32	Ohh I guess I just answered my own question, if the parameters stay the same but my ID/SID changes, then the shiny legends would be on different frames within the same seeds that I use now, and therefor different PIDs (hopefully still a synchronize frame) __________________ "I will make this guy my cat!"

Nov 15th, 2012, 11:05:01 PM	#17006
fabv Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 8	I need some help please, I'm very familiar with rng. For black/white when I tried to hit a right seed, I presed A in the ds screen. But I'm tring to rng in a R4 (3ds R4iGold) to enter the game in the R4 I must wait 4 seconds (a loading screen appears) then the game runs (the white screen, nintendo logo, etc.) And for that reason I cannot do the calibration for that game (that loading screen before runing the game screws all) any advice? or ti's implosible rng in a R4iGold

Nov 16th, 2012, 3:01:37 PM	#17022
Deszaras Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 18 Germany	How do I handle multiple WNPCs at RNGing? After a while I can handle how one WNPC moves, but three or even four o.O

Nov 16th, 2012, 5:50:36 PM	#17025
AlternateMew Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 9	Is it possible to be trolled by timer0 with the PIDRNG? I can hit my seed for a flawless spread easily by now, but the moment I try to use chatots on it to change the nature/encounter slot/etc, it screws it up big time, like I hit a totally different seed. This happens consistently, I've tried the same thing a good twenty times. I go from a naive/often dozes off to a mild/impetuous and silly. Using chatots on a different seed, however, works like it should. Just wondering what is going on with my flawless IV setup.