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Borat's Guide to GSC - Part 2 [GP 0/2]
Part 1: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51778 (outdated, but still good)
Part 2: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=65122 Part 3: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=81313 Part 4: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=84227 Part 5: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=84449 Part 6: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3447576 best one One thing you have to drop is the idea of "new" team. If you're not using a certain move, or a certain pokemon because it would be "copying" someone else's idea and not it being an original creation, that's idiotic. Between the fundamental sets and strategies (restbell, curselax, sleep talk) developed by the 00-02 foundational players, and vil/celia/bob/whatever developing most of the defensive conceptual shit, and my developing everything else, there's very little, if any "new" left. The concept of "new" teams revolves around a "new" idea, of which there really aren't any. Changing surf to hydro pump, or cloyster to forretress, doesn't really destroy the core foundational function of the team, so for all intents and purposes, it's still the same team. That's why if I try to "rate" teams, I really just end up giving them a worser version of a team I already made. So this started off as a warstory, but after 6 natty lights, I realize I’m no good at creative writing. I’m pretty good with satire, but in an alcohol induced state, I tend to rant (exhibit A). Anywho, this has become more of a “inside the mind of competitive battling” kind of thing really. A guide to competitive battling if you will. Or a part 2 to my guide. If there’s one thing I learned about competitive Pokemon, it’s about prediction. Notice, it’s “about” prediction. If there’s one thing you know about competitive Pokemon, it’s the importance of prediction. That’s how skill is determined right? Wrong. You can’t really learn prediction, it’s something you already know, it’s intuition, it’s something you grow accustomed to, something you improve through learning other things (like playstyles and play patterns), without those things, prediction only exists in one state. It’s ONLY possible to predict against lesser opponents, when faced against equal/greater opponents, it’s known as GUESSING. That’s what you’re doing for the most part, it’s not prediction whatsoever. Prediction implies beating the odds, against better/equal opponents, that won’t happen. You’re playing the odds, and exactly the odds. And, by the way, this thread will it’ll be a three-part issue. Consider it a treat. First, I’d like to introduce you to a little gem of mine. Evolution of Competitive GSC: http://www.scribd.com/doc/23651544/E...ompetitive-GSC Yes that’s mine. I started writing it one nostalgic day 2 years ago. Don’t ask why, just appreciate the fact that it exists. The second, the battle itself. Read the commentary, it’s good stuff. Really, I promise. Will induce thought and make you a better battler. I sign on for the first time in 18 months, feeling nostalgic. I go away (since I'm too cool for Pokemon obviously) and get a message from poke god: "hai wants play?!". That's not what he said. But that's the gist of it. He challenges me, I notice "Apply PP Ups", which I'm not too fond of in the realm of GSC. But it was a rated match and not that unrated pussyshit so it's cool, instant +10 respect for not being a record whore. But then again, there's so few people on for that to even matter. Show enemy HP wasn't ticked, so I wasn't in full NB 0.9.6 nostalgia mode. So later on I find out this is actually Bob, since he ran the same team under his Professor Pokemon or whatever alias. Not important. Anyway, high off his victories over some former vets, smurfing the hell out of vil/havoc, and some cruel wins over whatever remains of the GSC community, he decides to get cute with me. So I retaliate with some cuteness of my own. Truth be told though, I couldn't care less. I didn't expect a challenge, not knowing who he is, and he certainly didn't expect a challenge either. Chatlog confirms this. This is actually only my third time playing Bob. The first two ended in a draw back in early 2004 or so, after 564 (arbitrary) turns of not being able to do anything against each other. I won in the end, via struggle 5-0, but I think we both gave up at that point, so I consider it a draw. This battle is just as long (as of writing, it’s 75 pages long), but it was on-your-toes the whole way through. There was never a hopeless moment for either team, ‘til about turn 300 or so. Even then, should I misplay, I’d still lose. This isn’t one of the best battles I have, but it’s definitely one of the best out of my available 4 logs. Spoiler warning: After reading through it, there’s very little satire. It comes off as a pretty strong in-your-face competitive-Pokemon-is-serious-business kind of notion. But it’s really good info though, a lot of which will make you better battlers, GSC and other generations as well I hope. poke god vs Borat. Begin! poke god sent out Tyranitar (Lv.100 Tyranitar)! Borat sent out Raikou (Lv.100 Raikou)! My Raikou start gives me the edge on pretty much every common starter, with the exception of Nidoking. Prior to this game, I've always ran Roar Raikou... and that hasn't changed (didn't expect that did you?). What did change, though, is that I forwent Crunch in favor of Reflect. Experimentation really, based on the idea that Crunch usually ends up hitting Steelix, Nidoking, Marowak, or Rhydon. Steelix couldn't careless, Nidoking and Rhydon both pose no reasonable threats, and Marowak is... well, again... "experimentation". Anywho, this matchup isn't really ideal, but hey, I might as well begin with the "experimention". Begin Turn #1 poke god withdrew Tyranitar! poke god sent out Marowak (Lv.100 Marowak)! --------------------------------- Raikou used Reflect! Borat's team's Reflect raised Defense! --------------------------------- End of turn #1 poke god's Marowak: 100% HP Borat's Raikou: 383 HP Cool, the one Pokemon I don't have justification for running Reflect over Crunch. Begin Turn #2 poke god withdrew Marowak! poke god sent out Skarmory (Lv.100 Skarmory)! --------------------------------- Borat withdrew Raikou! Borat sent out Suicune (Lv.100 Suicune)! --------------------------------- End of turn #2 poke god's Skarmory: 100% HP Borat's Suicune: 403 HP I was almost surprised to find Suicune on the team, then I realized I made another experimental change before the battle. I’ve always had Starmie in this slot to cover up the Machamp weakness, as well as anti-spikes coverage. Begin Turn #3 Borat withdrew Suicune! Borat sent out Raikou (Lv.100 Raikou)! --------------------------------- Skarmory used Thief! (19 damage) Skarmory stole Raikou's Leftovers! --------------------------------- End of turn #3 poke god's Skarmory: 100% HP Borat's Raikou: 364 HP Ideal matchup for Raikou. Losing leftovers with Raikou is eh, unless he's packing Zapdos/Raikou with spike support, it doesn't really matter. This is where I begin scouting the team. I like knowing what I'm dealing with, and I emphasize it for any advanced player. You don't want to sacrifice Pokemon blindly unless you know exactly what to expect. Losing to a last poke drum/curselax, drumzard, druidcruel, growtheon, is not cool. He doesn't scout me out, which costs him later. You'll see. Begin Turn #4 poke god withdrew Skarmory! poke god sent out Tyranitar (Lv.100 Tyranitar)! --------------------------------- Raikou used Roar! Tyranitar fled from battle! Starmie (Lv.100 Starmie) was dragged out! --------------------------------- End of turn #4 poke god's Starmie: 100% HP Borat's Raikou: 364 HP Okay, so Marowak, Skarmory, Tyranitar, and Starmie. Marowak's the only threat so far. Begin Turn #5 poke god withdrew Starmie! poke god sent out Marowak (Lv.100 Marowak)! --------------------------------- Raikou used Roar! Marowak fled from battle! Skarmory (Lv.100 Skarmory) was dragged out! --------------------------------- Borat's team's Reflect wore off! End of turn #5 poke god's Skarmory: 100% HP Borat's Raikou: 364 HP Bantorra GSC has started watching. Begin Turn #6 poke god withdrew Skarmory! poke god sent out Marowak (Lv.100 Marowak)! --------------------------------- Raikou used Roar! Marowak fled from battle! Starmie (Lv.100 Starmie) was dragged out! --------------------------------- End of turn #6 poke god's Starmie: 100% HP Borat's Raikou: 364 HP Begin Turn #7 Raikou used Thunderbolt! (92% damage) It's super effective! --------------------------------- Starmie used Surf! (104 damage) --------------------------------- Starmie's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #7 poke god's Starmie: 14% HP Borat's Raikou: 260 HP Prediction. This was really a rub in the face really for the past 5 correct predictions. A "I read you like a book" if you will. I begin to get cocky here. Begin Turn #8 poke god withdrew Starmie! poke god sent out Marowak (Lv.100 Marowak)! --------------------------------- Raikou used Roar! Marowak fled from battle! Miltank (Lv.100 Miltank) was dragged out! --------------------------------- End of turn #8 poke god's Miltank: 100% HP Borat's Raikou: 260 HP Borat: is snorlax your 6th? Borat: starmie marowak skarm Borat: ttar Borat: miltank poke god: you tell me It was. Anywho, at this point, I pretty much realized if he was any good, he's running the same strategy as me. Two differences in the team that are ultimately inconsequential, Tyranitar/Starmie vs Raikou/Suicune. Marowak is a threat to every team, but I have as much Marowak coverage as one could have. Snorlax is obviously a threat, especially with an unknown set. My guess was drumlax which takes advantage of SD wak. Begin Turn #9 poke god withdrew Miltank! poke god sent out Marowak (Lv.100 Marowak)! --------------------------------- Raikou used Reflect! Borat's team's Reflect raised Defense! --------------------------------- End of turn #9 poke god's Marowak: 100% HP Borat's Raikou: 260 HP Danbear has started watching. Borat: show me some respect :( Begin Turn #10 poke god withdrew Marowak! poke god sent out Starmie (Lv.100 Starmie)! --------------------------------- Borat withdrew Raikou! Borat sent out Skarmory (Lv.100 Skarmory)! --------------------------------- Starmie's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #10 poke god's Starmie: 20% HP Borat's Skarmory: 333 HP poke god: y'd i do that Borat: because i'm better obviously poke god: ok cool i got starm in poke god: =) poke god: nah poke god: im gona win 6-0 poke god: im pretty sure Friendly chit-chat. Starmie recovers, but it doesn't really matter in my mind. I don't get to be as careless with Marowak though. I eat my words a little bit after, but whatever. Begin Turn #11 Starmie used Recover! Starmie regained health! --------------------------------- Skarmory used Whirlwind! Starmie was blown away! Snorlax (Lv.100 Snorlax) was dragged out! --------------------------------- End of turn #11 poke god's Snorlax: 100% HP Borat's Skarmory: 333 HP Yep Snorlax. Begin Turn #12 poke god withdrew Snorlax! poke god sent out Skarmory (Lv.100 Skarmory)! --------------------------------- Skarmory used Drill Peck! (10% damage) It's not very effective... --------------------------------- Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #12 poke god's Skarmory: 96% HP Borat's Skarmory: 333 HP Begin Turn #13 poke god withdrew Skarmory! poke god sent out Tyranitar (Lv.100 Tyranitar)! --------------------------------- Borat withdrew Skarmory! Borat sent out Snorlax (Lv.100 Snorlax)! --------------------------------- Borat's team's Reflect wore off! End of turn #13 poke god's Tyranitar: 100% HP Borat's Snorlax: 523 HP Begin Turn #14 poke god withdrew Tyranitar! poke god sent out Skarmory (Lv.100 Skarmory)! --------------------------------- Borat withdrew Snorlax! Borat sent out Suicune (Lv.100 Suicune)! --------------------------------- Borat: i can save you a lot of time Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #14 poke god's Skarmory: 100% HP Borat's Suicune: 403 HP Borat: if you'd tell me lax's 4 moves His playstyle is similar to mine as well. I'm getting use to his switching pattern, and vice-versa. I begin to take the battle a bit more seriously, respecting his plays and expecting the unexpected. Begin Turn #15 poke god withdrew Skarmory! poke god sent out Snorlax (Lv.100 Snorlax)! --------------------------------- Suicune used Surf! (39% damage) A critical hit! --------------------------------- Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #15 poke god's Snorlax: 67% HP Borat's Suicune: 403 HP poke god: i duno poke god: play to find out :D Begin Turn #16 Suicune used Surf! (18% damage) --------------------------------- Snorlax used Body Slam! (98 damage) --------------------------------- Suicune's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #16 poke god's Snorlax: 55% HP Borat's Suicune: 330 HP Begin Turn #17 Borat withdrew Suicune! Borat sent out Skarmory (Lv.100 Skarmory)! --------------------------------- Snorlax used Curse! Snorlax's Attack rose! Snorlax's Defense rose! Snorlax's Speed fell! --------------------------------- Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #17 poke god's Snorlax: 61% HP Borat's Skarmory: 333 HP Ahh, curselax with Body Slam. This was pretty much my worst fear. With DE/Return, I could send skarm in on Snorlax all day, but with Body Slam, paralysis becomes a hassel. I couldn't send Miltank in yet, not without knowing whether or not it packed Belly Drum as well. And with Marowak waiting on the wings, probably SD kind, flinch + para becomes an issue for skarm. This followed the exact same offensive strategy that my team relied on. Begin Turn #18 Skarmory used Curse! Skarmory's Attack rose! Skarmory's Defense rose! Skarmory's Speed fell! --------------------------------- Snorlax used Body Slam! (44 damage) It's not very effective... --------------------------------- Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #18 poke god's Snorlax: 67% HP Borat's Skarmory: 310 HP Begin Turn #19 Snorlax used Curse! Snorlax's Attack rose! Snorlax's Defense rose! Snorlax's Speed fell! --------------------------------- Skarmory used Whirlwind! Snorlax was blown away! Starmie (Lv.100 Starmie) was dragged out! --------------------------------- Starmie's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #19 poke god's Starmie: 76% HP Borat's Skarmory: 331 HP Borat: ok Borat: you can't possibly win Borat: ttar can't touch suicune poke god: you cant possibly kil one of my pokemon Borat: rofl Borat: duel of egos proceed! I think I summarized this nicely in my last statement. Begin Turn #20 poke god withdrew Starmie! poke god sent out Tyranitar (Lv.100 Tyranitar)! --------------------------------- Borat withdrew Skarmory! Borat sent out Raikou (Lv.100 Raikou)! --------------------------------- End of turn #20 poke god's Tyranitar: 100% HP Borat's Raikou: 260 HP poke god: ok just kep going Begin Turn #21 Borat withdrew Raikou! Borat sent out Suicune (Lv.100 Suicune)! --------------------------------- Tyranitar used Crunch! (83 damage) --------------------------------- Suicune's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #21 poke god's Tyranitar: 100% HP Borat's Suicune: 272 HP Begin Turn #22 poke god withdrew Tyranitar! poke god sent out Starmie (Lv.100 Starmie)! --------------------------------- Borat withdrew Suicune! Borat sent out Snorlax (Lv.100 Snorlax)! --------------------------------- Starmie's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #22 poke god's Starmie: 83% HP Borat's Snorlax: 523 HP He's still feeling me out. I take the initiative. Begin Turn #23 poke god withdrew Starmie! poke god sent out Skarmory (Lv.100 Skarmory)! --------------------------------- Snorlax used Belly Drum! Snorlax cut its own HP and maximized Attack! --------------------------------- Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #23 poke god's Skarmory: 100% HP Borat's Snorlax: 295 HP Begin Turn #24 Snorlax used Body Slam! (76% damage) A critical hit! It's not very effective... --------------------------------- Skarmory used Whirlwind! Snorlax was blown away! Marowak (Lv.100 Marowak) was dragged out! --------------------------------- Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #24 poke god's Skarmory: 30% HP Borat's Marowak: 323 HP Borat: do i win? Borat: i think so Borat: gg though poke god: well Borat: nt poke god: that critical hit was pretty big for you Borat: right Major turn of events. I get a low-roll CH (a high roll would've sealed the deal). A para from snorlax would've done the same tbh. Rock Slide does 22-26% on Skarm, so I couldn't KO. Begin Turn #25 Skarmory used Drill Peck! (84 damage) --------------------------------- Marowak used Swords Dance! Marowak's Attack sharply rose! --------------------------------- Borat: a para woulda done the same Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #25 poke god's Skarmory: 37% HP Borat's Marowak: 239 HP DP was a high-risk move, with the only benefit being Marowak is now in KO range for Starmie. But even then, he has to make another correct prediction to get out of the scenario. It would’ve also been the right move had he assumed I’ve been a 4 move mixed sweeper with Fire Blast. I predicted he'd Rest since he'd think I'd switch since RS couldn't kill. Confusing? Probably. You have to know when to think, but not overthink. But this time, he just went right over my head. Either way, SD was the right move. He thought if he had used WW, there was more or less a 30% chance that I'd win the game should I RS. A CH/Flinch would've pretty much ended it, and a WW to Skarm/Snorlax would've kept the game going. WW would've been my choice. Begin Turn #26 poke god withdrew Skarmory! poke god sent out Marowak (Lv.100 Marowak)! --------------------------------- Marowak used Rock Slide! (31% damage) It's not very effective... --------------------------------- End of turn #26 poke god's Marowak: 69% HP Borat's Marowak: 239 HP I half expected Starmie, and half expected Skarmory to stay in for the WW. Probably 44/56 between the Earthquake and Rock Slide paying off after factoring CH chances/accuracy, so I just picked the latter. I didn't expect him to sacrifice someone this early, which is the safest route to keep the game going. From his perspective, here are six options: Sacrifice Snorlax: Well this doesn't make any sense. Marowak alone poses no threat whatsoever to his team. Sacrifice Starmie: I'd have to sacrifice another as well, since Starmie is the only thing that can stop Marowak via OHKO at this point. Sacrifice Miltank: Without Miltank, my Marowak (which ran the same set as me) would be stupidly slow. So no Miltank = no Marowak. Sacrifice Skarmory: That unleashes his two offensive threats with pretty much no drawback. Sacrifice Tyranitar: I only know 5 of his Pokemon, and should his 6th be Misdreavus, that becomes a huge hassel as my offense now relies on Marowak once again. Sacrifice Marowak: Offense relies on Snorlax, but as a bonus, he doesn't know my 4th move yet. Had he scouted all 6 of my Pokemon, he probably would've sacrificed Tyranitar, completely changing the game. Begin Turn #27 Marowak used Earthquake! (70% damage) Marowak fainted! poke god sent out Starmie (Lv.100 Starmie)! --------------------------------- Starmie's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #27 poke god's Starmie: 89% HP Borat's Marowak: 239 HP I win the 50/50, but my Marowak wasn't really in KO range for his EQ anyway. My cockiness comes back now as I take the lead. poke god sent out Starmie (Lv.100 Starmie)! --------------------------------- Starmie's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #27 poke god's Starmie: 89% HP Borat's Marowak: 239 HP Well at least DP wasn't a complete waste. Begin Turn #29 poke god withdrew Starmie! poke god sent out Snorlax (Lv.100 Snorlax)! --------------------------------- Snorlax used Rest! Snorlax went to sleep! --------------------------------- Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #29 poke god's Snorlax: 74% HP Borat's Snorlax: 523 HP (Slp) Begin Turn #30 Borat withdrew Snorlax! Borat sent out Miltank (Lv.100 Miltank)! --------------------------------- Snorlax used Body Slam! (111 damage) --------------------------------- Miltank's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #30 poke god's Snorlax: 80% HP Borat's Miltank: 307 HP My Miltank finally makes an appearance, as he probably realized sacrificing Marowak was the wrong move. Begin Turn #31 Miltank used Body Slam! (23% damage) --------------------------------- Snorlax used Curse! Snorlax's Attack rose! Snorlax's Defense rose! Snorlax's Speed fell! --------------------------------- Miltank's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #31 poke god's Snorlax: 63% HP Borat's Miltank: 332 HP Curselax. Begin Turn #32 Miltank used Growl! Snorlax's Attack fell! --------------------------------- Snorlax used Curse! Snorlax's Attack rose! Snorlax's Defense rose! Snorlax's Speed fell! --------------------------------- Miltank's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #32 poke god's Snorlax: 70% HP Borat's Miltank: 357 HP I begin to get suspicious here... what's he doing? Begin Turn #33 Miltank used Growl! Snorlax's Attack fell! --------------------------------- Snorlax used Curse! Snorlax's Attack rose! Snorlax's Defense rose! Snorlax's Speed fell! --------------------------------- Miltank's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #33 poke god's Snorlax: 76% HP Borat's Miltank: 382 HP No... what's his fourth move? Begin Turn #34 Miltank used Growl! Snorlax's Attack fell! --------------------------------- Snorlax used Curse! Snorlax's Attack rose! Snorlax's Defense rose! Snorlax's Speed fell! --------------------------------- Miltank's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #34 poke god's Snorlax: 82% HP Borat's Miltank: 393 HP It couldn't be... Begin Turn #35 Miltank used Growl! Snorlax's Attack fell! --------------------------------- Snorlax used Curse! Snorlax's Attack rose! Snorlax's Defense rose! Snorlax's Speed fell! --------------------------------- Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #35 poke god's Snorlax: 89% HP Borat's Miltank: 393 HP Danbear has left. It probably is... Begin Turn #36 Miltank used Growl! Snorlax's Attack fell! --------------------------------- Snorlax used Curse! Snorlax's Attack rose! Snorlax's Defense rose! Snorlax's Speed fell! --------------------------------- Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #36 poke god's Snorlax: 95% HP Borat's Miltank: 393 HP Which means any second now... Begin Turn #37 Miltank used Growl! Snorlax's Attack fell! --------------------------------- Snorlax used Belly Drum! Snorlax cut its own HP and maximized Attack! --------------------------------- Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #37 poke god's Snorlax: 51% HP Borat's Miltank: 393 HP Yep. Well fuck. I had ruled out a drumcurselax on the account that he hasn't shown the greatest of skill and has been outplayed to this point. Had I been more cautious and continued on my original plan of scouting out Snorlax's moveset, I wouldn't be in this position. I couldn't risk Skarm getting para'd/CH'd on the switch, so I decide to sacrifice either Raikou or Suicune to get Skarm in safely. He doesn't seem to pack Thunder Misdreavus, and for whatever reason, I still felt his Tyranitar was a mixed sweeper, so Raikou was more or less dead to me. Suicune had a better chance of shutting down his presumed mixtar than my Raikou had of making an impact with Reflect. Had I known Tyranitar packed neither Rock Slide nor EQ, I would've sacrificed Suicune. Respect comes back. In hindsight, I should've known he ran pursuittar. A team that focuses on a Snorlax that can't touch ghosts isn't very reliable, and someone as skilled as to make a team like his certainly knows that, hence a reliable way to deal with said ghosts must be necessary. Enter Pursuit Tyranitar. Whatever. Begin Turn #38 Borat withdrew Miltank! Borat sent out Raikou (Lv.100 Raikou)! --------------------------------- Snorlax used Body Slam! (260 damage) Raikou fainted! Borat sent out Skarmory (Lv.100 Skarmory)! --------------------------------- Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #38 poke god's Snorlax: 58% HP Borat's Skarmory: 333 HP Begin Turn #39 Skarmory used Curse! Skarmory's Attack rose! Skarmory's Defense rose! Skarmory's Speed fell! --------------------------------- Snorlax used Body Slam! (82 damage) It's not very effective... --------------------------------- Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #39 poke god's Snorlax: 64% HP Borat's Skarmory: 272 HP Borat: very nice Borat: that's my set poke god: easy now boss Borat: against me Curseskarm was made to shutdown drumlaxes. Begin Turn #40 Skarmory used Curse! Skarmory's Attack rose! Skarmory's Defense rose! Skarmory's Speed fell! --------------------------------- Snorlax used Body Slam! (66 damage) It's not very effective... --------------------------------- Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #40 poke god's Snorlax: 70% HP Borat's Skarmory: 227 HP Teh Unknown has started watching. Begin Turn #41 poke god withdrew Snorlax! poke god sent out Tyranitar (Lv.100 Tyranitar)! --------------------------------- Skarmory used Curse! Skarmory's Attack rose! Skarmory's Defense rose! Skarmory's Speed fell! --------------------------------- Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #41 poke god's Tyranitar: 100% HP Borat's Skarmory: 248 HP Begin Turn #42 Borat withdrew Skarmory! Borat sent out Suicune (Lv.100 Suicune)! --------------------------------- Tyranitar used Thunderbolt! (142 damage) It's super effective! --------------------------------- Suicune's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #42 poke god's Tyranitar: 100% HP Borat's Suicune: 155 HP Begin Turn #43 Suicune used Rest! Suicune went to sleep! --------------------------------- Tyranitar used Thunderbolt! (135 damage) It's super effective! --------------------------------- Suicune's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #43 poke god's Tyranitar: 100% HP Borat's Suicune: 293 HP (Slp) Begin Turn #44 Suicune is fast asleep. Suicune used Sleep Talk! Suicune used Surf! (53% damage) It's super effective! --------------------------------- Tyranitar used Pursuit! (41 damage) --------------------------------- Suicune's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Tyranitar's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #44 poke god's Tyranitar: 54% HP Borat's Suicune: 277 HP (Slp) I maintain that ST Suicune shuts down a stupidly large number of non-setup Pokemon. Begin Turn #45 poke god withdrew Tyranitar! poke god sent out Starmie (Lv.100 Starmie)! --------------------------------- Suicune is fast asleep. Suicune used Sleep Talk! Suicune used Rest! Suicune went to sleep! --------------------------------- Starmie's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #45 poke god's Starmie: 100% HP Borat's Suicune: 403 HP (Slp) Begin Turn #46 poke god withdrew Starmie! poke god sent out Snorlax (Lv.100 Snorlax)! --------------------------------- Borat withdrew Suicune! Borat sent out Snorlax (Lv.100 Snorlax)! --------------------------------- Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #46 poke god's Snorlax: 76% HP Borat's Snorlax: 523 HP (Slp) Borat: no prediction required for me anymore Borat: :( That's not true. If he gets lucky with the paras, my Skarm still struggles with drumlax. I knew that, he knew that. I temporarily put my offense on hold while I try to PP waste the last of his offensive threats. Begin Turn #47 Borat withdrew Snorlax! Borat sent out Skarmory (Lv.100 Skarmory)! --------------------------------- Snorlax used Curse! Snorlax's Attack rose! Snorlax's Defense rose! Snorlax's Speed fell! --------------------------------- Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #47 poke god's Snorlax: 83% HP Borat's Skarmory: 269 HP Curse forces Skarm in everytime. Sending Miltank in is suicide for the most part. Begin Turn #48 Skarmory used Curse! Skarmory's Attack rose! Skarmory's Defense rose! Skarmory's Speed fell! --------------------------------- Snorlax used Body Slam! (43 damage) It's not very effective... Skarmory is paralyzed! It may be unable to move! --------------------------------- Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #48 poke god's Snorlax: 89% HP Borat's Skarmory: 247 HP (Par) Exactly what I feared. I was prepared to use all 8 Heal Bells curing skarm's paralysis. Begin Turn #49 poke god withdrew Snorlax! poke god sent out Tyranitar (Lv.100 Tyranitar)! --------------------------------- Skarmory is paralyzed! It can't move! --------------------------------- Tyranitar's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #49 poke god's Tyranitar: 60% HP Borat's Skarmory: 268 HP (Par) Begin Turn #50 poke god withdrew Tyranitar! poke god sent out Skarmory (Lv.100 Skarmory)! --------------------------------- Borat withdrew Skarmory! Borat sent out Miltank (Lv.100 Miltank)! --------------------------------- Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #50 poke god's Skarmory: 43% HP Borat's Miltank: 393 HP Oh God, I forgot that even existed. I realize I'm back at square one with my offensive efforts now. Had I been more aware, I would've made Marowak a bigger part of my prediction priority, as a low HP Skarm and Starmie isn't really a Marowak stopper by any means. Begin Turn #51 Miltank used Heal Bell! A bell chimed! --------------------------------- Skarmory used Rest! Skarmory went to sleep! --------------------------------- End of turn #51 poke god's Skarmory: 100% HP (Slp) Borat's Miltank: 393 HP Teh Unknown has left. Keeping Skarm status free was crucial to stalling out the Body Slam cursedrumlax. Begin Turn #58 poke god withdrew Skarmory! poke god sent out Starmie (Lv.100 Starmie)! --------------------------------- Marowak used Rest! Marowak went to sleep! --------------------------------- End of turn #58 poke god's Starmie: 100% HP Borat's Marowak: 323 HP (Slp) Resting up Marowak allows me to take a hit against Starmie. Begin Turn #59 poke god withdrew Starmie! poke god sent out Snorlax (Lv.100 Snorlax)! --------------------------------- Borat withdrew Marowak! Borat sent out Suicune (Lv.100 Suicune)! --------------------------------- Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #59 poke god's Snorlax: 95% HP Borat's Suicune: 403 HP He's use to my switches now as well. Once you're stalling instead of executing your offense, you become more predictable. Take notes guys. Begin Turn #60 Borat withdrew Suicune! Borat sent out Skarmory (Lv.100 Skarmory)! --------------------------------- Snorlax used Body Slam! (44 damage) It's not very effective... --------------------------------- Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #60 poke god's Snorlax: 100% HP Borat's Skarmory: 245 HP Packing both curse and drum, I'm almost forced to send in Skarm everytime now. Begin Turn #61 poke god withdrew Snorlax! poke god sent out Tyranitar (Lv.100 Tyranitar)! --------------------------------- Skarmory used Drill Peck! (9% damage) It's not very effective... --------------------------------- Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Tyranitar's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #61 poke god's Tyranitar: 52% HP Borat's Skarmory: 266 HP Drill peck for two reasons: 1. Weakens drumlax, you want it to hover right above the 50-75% mark. Anything higher lets it drum with relatively no repurcussions, anything lower lets it do the glitch drum (+2 attack). 2. Leftovers recovery. 2 leftovers recovery negates the damage of a single Body Slam. I don't want to get caught having to Rest when he can drum. The latter took place obviously. Begin Turn #62 poke god withdrew Tyranitar! poke god sent out Snorlax (Lv.100 Snorlax)! --------------------------------- Borat withdrew Skarmory! Borat sent out Suicune (Lv.100 Suicune)! --------------------------------- End of turn #62 poke god's Snorlax: 100% HP Borat's Suicune: 403 HP Stalling makes you predictable. Begin Turn #63 Borat withdrew Suicune! Borat sent out Skarmory (Lv.100 Skarmory)! --------------------------------- Snorlax used Body Slam! (44 damage) It's not very effective... Skarmory is paralyzed! It may be unable to move! --------------------------------- Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #63 poke god's Snorlax: 100% HP Borat's Skarmory: 243 HP (Par) …Very, very predictable. And it results in a pretty bad scenario for me. In hindsight, I probably could've switched to Suicune or something to eat a Body Slam since I realize he's just trying to hit me on the switch instead of Cursing up first to deter any other Pokemon. Begin Turn #64 Snorlax used Body Slam! (43 damage) It's not very effective... --------------------------------- Skarmory used Whirlwind! Snorlax was blown away! Starmie (Lv.100 Starmie) was dragged out! --------------------------------- Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #64 poke god's Starmie: 100% HP Borat's Skarmory: 221 HP (Par) He predicted I'd switch to Miltank to HB up. I predicted he'd drum predicting I'd switch to Miltank. We were both wrong. Begin Turn #65 poke god withdrew Starmie! poke god sent out Snorlax (Lv.100 Snorlax)! --------------------------------- Borat withdrew Skarmory! Borat sent out Miltank (Lv.100 Miltank)! --------------------------------- End of turn #65 poke god's Snorlax: 100% HP Borat's Miltank: 393 HP This is the worst position I could be in. Risk vs Reward analysis My two options: Heal Bell Body Slam His two options: Curse Belly Drum Results: 1. If he drummed, I could've used Body slam and we both could've been in KO range. A CH from either side would've resulted in death. Had I Heal Belled on the turn he used Belly Drum, something probably would've died. 2. If he used curse, I could've belled up and switched to Skarm on the following turn. Had I used Body Slam, I had a chance to para/fp/both (which it did), CH and prevent a subsequent Drum, or if neither happened, would've probably lost someone. Going with Heal Bell was pretty much a 50/50 and a pure test of prediction. Going with Body Slam was roughly a 64/36 factoring in para, fp, and ch in my favor to come out without a scratch. Begin Turn #66 Miltank used Body Slam! (23% damage) Snorlax is paralyzed! It may be unable to move! --------------------------------- Snorlax is paralyzed! It can't move! --------------------------------- Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #66 poke god's Snorlax: 83% HP (Par) Borat's Miltank: 393 HP Risk vs Reward round 2 The same two options are available to us once again. Results: 1. If he drummed, I could've used Body Slam. That would put him in a horrible position. Heal Belling this turn would've put him at 39% HP, me at full, with Body Slam doing about 23% a turn. In the subsequent turn, anything that ISN'T him critting my Miltank would've ended badly for him. 2. If he cursed, I could've Heal Belled, allowing me to bring in a "fresh" Skarm. Body Slam would be inconsequential. Going with Belly Drum, odds are greatly against him for him to come out beneficial in the exchange. Curse was the clear choice, and I played accordingly. Begin Turn #67 Miltank used Heal Bell! A bell chimed! --------------------------------- Snorlax used Curse! Snorlax's Attack rose! Snorlax's Defense rose! Snorlax's Speed fell! --------------------------------- Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #67 poke god's Snorlax: 89% HP (Par) Borat's Miltank: 393 HP This isn't a matter of me predicting correctly, but merely me analyzing the situation. Don't overpredict if you don't have to. Sometimes playing the numbers is the way to go. Begin Turn #68 Borat withdrew Miltank! Borat sent out Skarmory (Lv.100 Skarmory)! --------------------------------- Snorlax is paralyzed! It can't move! --------------------------------- Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #68 poke god's Snorlax: 96% HP (Par) Borat's Skarmory: 242 HP Probably Body Slam attempt to re-paralyze my Skarmory. Begin Turn #69 Skarmory used Curse! Skarmory's Attack rose! Skarmory's Defense rose! Skarmory's Speed fell! --------------------------------- Snorlax is paralyzed! It can't move! --------------------------------- Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #69 poke god's Snorlax: 100% HP (Par) Borat's Skarmory: 263 HP Probably Body Slam attempt to re-paralyze my Skarmory. Begin Turn #70 poke god withdrew Snorlax! poke god sent out Miltank (Lv.100 Miltank)! --------------------------------- Skarmory used Drill Peck! (32% damage) --------------------------------- Miltank's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #70 poke god's Miltank: 74% HP Borat's Skarmory: 284 HP Begin Turn #71 Borat withdrew Skarmory! Borat sent out Snorlax (Lv.100 Snorlax)! --------------------------------- Miltank used Heal Bell! A bell chimed! --------------------------------- Miltank's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #71 poke god's Miltank: 80% HP Borat's Snorlax: 523 HP Definitely a misplay on my part. Should've took my chances with a full HP Marowak instead of the Snorlax. Oh well. Begin Turn #72 poke god withdrew Miltank! poke god sent out Skarmory (Lv.100 Skarmory)! --------------------------------- Borat withdrew Snorlax! Borat sent out Suicune (Lv.100 Suicune)! --------------------------------- End of turn #72 poke god's Skarmory: 100% HP Borat's Suicune: 403 HP Begin Turn #83 Skarmory used Drill Peck! (22% damage) --------------------------------- Snorlax used Body Slam! (45 damage) It's not very effective... --------------------------------- Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #83 poke god's Snorlax: 84% HP Borat's Skarmory: 237 HP In the last two meetings where my Skarm met his Snorlax, I used curse. He thought he'd get a free para attempt, and I thought that as well. Hence Drill Peck. Begin Turn #84 Skarmory used Drill Peck! (21% damage) --------------------------------- Snorlax used Body Slam! (41 damage) It's not very effective... --------------------------------- Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #84 poke god's Snorlax: 70% HP Borat's Skarmory: 217 HP Again. Begin Turn #85 poke god withdrew Snorlax! poke god sent out Tyranitar (Lv.100 Tyranitar)! --------------------------------- Skarmory used Curse! Skarmory's Attack rose! Skarmory's Defense rose! Skarmory's Speed fell! --------------------------------- Tyranitar's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #85 poke god's Tyranitar: 47% HP Borat's Skarmory: 238 HP Bleh whatever. Begin Turn #86 Borat withdrew Skarmory! Borat sent out Suicune (Lv.100 Suicune)! --------------------------------- Tyranitar used Thunderbolt! (242 damage) A critical hit! It's super effective! --------------------------------- Suicune's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Tyranitar's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #86 poke god's Tyranitar: 53% HP Borat's Suicune: 186 HP Begin Turn #87 poke god withdrew Tyranitar! poke god sent out Snorlax (Lv.100 Snorlax)! --------------------------------- Suicune used Rest! Suicune went to sleep! --------------------------------- Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #87 poke god's Snorlax: 76% HP Borat's Suicune: 403 HP (Slp) Borat: i still think How gay is Suicune? Very. He starts to realize he can force a Suicune vs Snorlax matchup at will with Tyranitar though. And he can force a Tyranitar vs Skarm matchup at will with Snorlax. I begin to give up the pure stalling and try to execute my own offense. The safe route was taking too long and could probably cost me the match if luck didn’t go my way. Spoiler: Luck didn’t go my way for pretty much the rest of the battle. Begin Turn #88 Borat withdrew Suicune! Borat sent out Skarmory (Lv.100 Skarmory)! --------------------------------- Snorlax used Body Slam! (44 damage) It's not very effective... --------------------------------- Borat: you should give credit where do Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #88 poke god's Snorlax: 82% HP Borat's Skarmory: 215 HP Borat: if you catch my drift Begin Turn #89 Skarmory used Drill Peck! (22% damage) --------------------------------- Snorlax used Body Slam! (46 damage) It's not very effective... Skarmory is paralyzed! It may be unable to move! --------------------------------- Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #89 poke god's Snorlax: 66% HP Borat's Skarmory: 190 HP (Par) Danbear has started watching. Begin Turn #90 poke god withdrew Snorlax! poke god sent out Tyranitar (Lv.100 Tyranitar)! --------------------------------- Skarmory is paralyzed! It can't move! --------------------------------- Tyranitar's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #90 poke god's Tyranitar: 60% HP Borat's Skarmory: 211 HP (Par) Borat: sec door I wanted to switch to Miltank to heal up, since I knew his HP wasn't in drum range, but I had a brain fart. That's my excuse. This is a misplay, but whatever. Begin Turn #91 Tyranitar used Pursuit! (58 damage) It's not very effective... --------------------------------- Borat withdrew Skarmory! Borat sent out Marowak (Lv.100 Marowak)! --------------------------------- Tyranitar's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #91 poke god's Tyranitar: 66% HP Borat's Marowak: 323 HP I start counting Body Slams here, since I realize he had to be short at this point. This must be true since he's doubling up on the Skarm pounding. He probably also realized Thunderbolting a ST Cune does nothing, bar a CH crit on the switch while I'm sleeping. Begin Turn #92 poke god withdrew Tyranitar! poke god sent out Skarmory (Lv.100 Skarmory)! --------------------------------- Marowak used Swords Dance! Marowak's Attack sharply rose! --------------------------------- Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #92 poke god's Skarmory: 93% HP Borat's Marowak: 323 HP Executing my offense. Begin Turn #93 Marowak used Rock Slide! (49% damage) --------------------------------- Skarmory flinched! --------------------------------- Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #93 poke god's Skarmory: 50% HP Borat's Marowak: 323 HP Chance for victory #1: 36% Sweet! Either a critical hit or a flinch would win the game right there on the spot. Note: This is the last time I get lucky in the battle. Begin Turn #94 Marowak used Rock Slide! (48% damage) --------------------------------- Skarmory used Whirlwind! Marowak was blown away! Skarmory (Lv.100 Skarmory) was dragged out! --------------------------------- Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #94 poke god's Skarmory: 8% HP Borat's Skarmory: 174 HP (Par) Begin Turn #95 Borat withdrew Skarmory! Borat sent out Marowak (Lv.100 Marowak)! --------------------------------- Skarmory used Rest! Skarmory went to sleep! --------------------------------- End of turn #95 poke god's Skarmory: 100% HP (Slp) Borat's Marowak: 323 HP Begin Turn #96 poke god withdrew Skarmory! poke god sent out Miltank (Lv.100 Miltank)! --------------------------------- Marowak used Swords Dance! Marowak's Attack sharply rose! --------------------------------- Miltank's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #96 poke god's Miltank: 87% HP Borat's Marowak: 323 HP Begin Turn #97 Miltank used Heal Bell! A bell chimed! --------------------------------- Marowak used Earthquake! (86% damage) Miltank fainted! poke god sent out Skarmory (Lv.100 Skarmory)! --------------------------------- End of turn #97 poke god's Skarmory: 100% HP Borat's Marowak: 323 HP She was only a minor nuisance with his Marowak already gone, but a kill is a kill. Paralyzing Tyranitar/Starmie would be awesome at this stage. Freezing is also invaluable now. Begin Turn #98 Marowak used Rock Slide! (49% damage) --------------------------------- Skarmory used Whirlwind! Marowak was blown away! Snorlax (Lv.100 Snorlax) was dragged out! --------------------------------- Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #98 poke god's Skarmory: 57% HP Borat's Snorlax: 358 HP Begin Turn #99 Borat withdrew Snorlax! Borat sent out Miltank (Lv.100 Miltank)! --------------------------------- Skarmory used Drill Peck! (83 damage) --------------------------------- Miltank's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #99 poke god's Skarmory: 63% HP Borat's Miltank: 335 HP Begin Turn #100 poke god withdrew Skarmory! poke god sent out Snorlax (Lv.100 Snorlax)! --------------------------------- Miltank used Heal Bell! A bell chimed! --------------------------------- Miltank's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #100 poke god's Snorlax: 73% HP Borat's Miltank: 360 HP Danbear has left. Begin Turn #101 Miltank used Body Slam! (22% damage) --------------------------------- Snorlax used Curse! Snorlax's Attack rose! Snorlax's Defense rose! Snorlax's Speed fell! --------------------------------- Miltank's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #101 poke god's Snorlax: 58% HP Borat's Miltank: 385 HP A Body Slam here puts him out of drum range. Begin Turn #102 Borat withdrew Miltank! Borat sent out Skarmory (Lv.100 Skarmory)! --------------------------------- Snorlax used Body Slam! (68 damage) It's not very effective... Skarmory is paralyzed! It may be unable to move! --------------------------------- Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #102 poke god's Snorlax: 64% HP Borat's Skarmory: 127 HP (Par) Damnit, I just got rid of that. Begin Turn #103 Snorlax used Body Slam! (60 damage) It's not very effective... --------------------------------- Skarmory used Whirlwind! Snorlax was blown away! Skarmory (Lv.100 Skarmory) was dragged out! --------------------------------- Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #103 poke god's Skarmory: 70% HP Borat's Skarmory: 88 HP (Par) HP is becoming a problem now, in addition to the status. That misplay earlier is costing me now. Begin Turn #104 poke god withdrew Skarmory! poke god sent out Snorlax (Lv.100 Snorlax)! --------------------------------- Skarmory is paralyzed! It can't move! --------------------------------- Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #104 poke god's Snorlax: 70% HP Borat's Skarmory: 109 HP (Par) For the record, I used WW. Begin Turn #105 Snorlax used Belly Drum! Snorlax cut its own HP and maximized Attack! --------------------------------- Skarmory used Curse! Skarmory's Attack rose! Skarmory's Defense rose! Skarmory's Speed fell! --------------------------------- Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #105 poke god's Snorlax: 27% HP Borat's Skarmory: 130 HP (Par) Borat: fp to win it Borat: hint Borat: min dmage 28% A 999 attack STABed Body Slam does 81-95 to a +1 Skarm. A CH or FP would've killed me. On the other side of the coin, a +1 Skarm does 28-33% damage to a +0 snorlax. From his perspective: 26% chance of him killing me should he choose to attack, 74% chance of either me killing him or me resting off the damage and him wasting PP. Begin Turn #106 Snorlax used Curse! Snorlax's Attack won't go higher! Snorlax's Defense rose! Snorlax's Speed fell! --------------------------------- Skarmory used Drill Peck! (22% damage) --------------------------------- Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #106 poke god's Snorlax: 11% HP Borat's Skarmory: 151 HP (Par) Borat: there you go Borat: ! Brilliant move! Many less experienced players would've chosen to go with Rest this turn, which is actually the worst possible option (save a second Belly Drum). Using curse was a way for him to keep Snorlax alive should I get through para, and at the same time, should I FP, he would've been in a position to go on the offensive. From a defensive perspective, the only way his Snorlax could've died that turn is if I CH'd him through para, which is about a 4.5% chance. So Rest is an inconsequentially right move 4.5% of the time. Body Slam is the right move 26% of the time (26% chance to win the game really). Curse is the inconsequentially right move 92.5% of the time, and 3% (triple FP or FP + CH would've won the game; .25^3+.25*.0625) chance to win the game. Respect is at an all time high here. Begin Turn #107 Snorlax used Rest! Snorlax went to sleep! --------------------------------- Skarmory used Whirlwind! Snorlax was blown away! Skarmory (Lv.100 Skarmory) was dragged out! --------------------------------- Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #107 poke god's Skarmory: 76% HP Borat's Skarmory: 172 HP (Par) Begin Turn #108 Skarmory used Drill Peck! (22 damage) It's not very effective... --------------------------------- Skarmory used Rest! Skarmory went to sleep! --------------------------------- Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #108 poke god's Skarmory: 82% HP Borat's Skarmory: 333 HP (Slp) Both are at full. Begin Turn #123 poke god withdrew Starmie! poke god sent out Snorlax (Lv.100 Snorlax)! --------------------------------- Suicune used Ice Beam! (13% damage) --------------------------------- Suicune's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #123 poke god's Snorlax: 92% HP Borat's Suicune: 400 HP Figured I'd try to freeze something. Begin Turn #124 Borat withdrew Suicune! Borat sent out Skarmory (Lv.100 Skarmory)! --------------------------------- Snorlax used Belly Drum! Snorlax cut its own HP and maximized Attack! --------------------------------- Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #124 poke god's Snorlax: 49% HP Borat's Skarmory: 333 HP Begin Turn #125 Skarmory used Curse! Skarmory's Attack rose! Skarmory's Defense rose! Skarmory's Speed fell! --------------------------------- Snorlax used Body Slam! (179 damage) A critical hit! It's not very effective... Skarmory is paralyzed! It may be unable to move! --------------------------------- Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #125 poke god's Snorlax: 55% HP Borat's Skarmory: 175 HP (Par) Curseskarm proves to be invaluable. I can rest off the damage where others would be in quite the situation. Anyway, anything part another CH or double FPs and I'm fine. Begin Turn #126 poke god withdrew Snorlax! poke god sent out Tyranitar (Lv.100 Tyranitar)! --------------------------------- Skarmory used Rest! Skarmory went to sleep! --------------------------------- Tyranitar's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #126 poke god's Tyranitar: 68% HP Borat's Skarmory: 333 HP (Slp) Didn't expect a switch, which means he must be really low on Body Slams. Begin Turn #138 poke god withdrew Starmie! poke god sent out Skarmory (Lv.100 Skarmory)! --------------------------------- Snorlax used Body Slam! (12% damage) It's not very effective... --------------------------------- Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #138 poke god's Skarmory: 83% HP Borat's Snorlax: 523 HP Count the number of times I successfully paralyze something. Para chance: 0/1 Begin Turn #150 poke god withdrew Tyranitar! poke god sent out Skarmory (Lv.100 Skarmory)! --------------------------------- Marowak used Rest! Marowak went to sleep! --------------------------------- Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #150 poke god's Skarmory: 96% HP Borat's Marowak: 323 HP (Slp) Tried executing my offense here. I had a full HP Snorlax, so if I could get that in... Using what I know about his switch pattern, I force the issue. Begin Turn #151 poke god withdrew Skarmory! poke god sent out Tyranitar (Lv.100 Tyranitar)! --------------------------------- Borat withdrew Marowak! Borat sent out Suicune (Lv.100 Suicune)! --------------------------------- Tyranitar's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #151 poke god's Tyranitar: 74% HP Borat's Suicune: 403 HP Begin Turn #152 poke god withdrew Tyranitar! poke god sent out Starmie (Lv.100 Starmie)! --------------------------------- Borat withdrew Suicune! Borat sent out Snorlax (Lv.100 Snorlax)! --------------------------------- Starmie's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #152 poke god's Starmie: 73% HP Borat's Snorlax: 523 HP There we go. Begin Turn #153 poke god withdrew Starmie! poke god sent out Skarmory (Lv.100 Skarmory)! --------------------------------- Snorlax used Belly Drum! Snorlax cut its own HP and maximized Attack! --------------------------------- Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #153 poke god's Skarmory: 100% HP Borat's Snorlax: 295 HP Begin Turn #154 Snorlax used Body Slam! (40% damage) It's not very effective... --------------------------------- Skarmory used Whirlwind! Snorlax was blown away! Skarmory (Lv.100 Skarmory) was dragged out! --------------------------------- Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #154 poke god's Skarmory: 66% HP Borat's Skarmory: 333 HP Para chance: 0/2 Begin Turn #165 Miltank used Body Slam! (21% damage) A critical hit! It's not very effective... --------------------------------- Skarmory used Drill Peck! (157 damage) A critical hit! --------------------------------- Miltank's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #165 poke god's Skarmory: 38% HP (Par) Borat's Miltank: 206 HP 95% of me knew he was going to use Rest and begged me to switch to Marowak. Begin Turn #166 Miltank used Body Slam! (11% damage) It's not very effective... --------------------------------- Skarmory used Rest! Skarmory went to sleep! --------------------------------- Miltank's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #166 poke god's Skarmory: 100% HP (Slp) Borat's Miltank: 231 HP The 5% prevailed. Begin Turn #167 Borat withdrew Miltank! Borat sent out Marowak (Lv.100 Marowak)! --------------------------------- Skarmory is fast asleep. --------------------------------- End of turn #167 poke god's Skarmory: 100% HP (Slp) Borat's Marowak: 323 HP Chance for victory #2: 12% Switching a turn late changes my odds of winning on the spot from 36% to 12%. A high roll CH or a Flinch + Flinch or Flinch + CH would've won. It was a long shot anyway. Begin Turn #168 Marowak used Swords Dance! Marowak's Attack sharply rose! --------------------------------- Skarmory is fast asleep. --------------------------------- End of turn #168 poke god's Skarmory: 100% HP (Slp) Borat's Marowak: 323 HP Begin Turn #169 Marowak used Rock Slide! (48% damage) --------------------------------- Skarmory woke up! Skarmory used Whirlwind! Marowak was blown away! Suicune (Lv.100 Suicune) was dragged out! --------------------------------- Suicune's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #169 poke god's Skarmory: 59% HP Borat's Suicune: 363 HP Begin Turn #170 poke god withdrew Skarmory! poke god sent out Starmie (Lv.100 Starmie)! --------------------------------- Borat withdrew Suicune! Borat sent out Snorlax (Lv.100 Snorlax)! --------------------------------- Starmie's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #170 poke god's Starmie: 86% HP Borat's Snorlax: 361 HP Begin Turn #171 poke god withdrew Starmie! poke god sent out Skarmory (Lv.100 Skarmory)! --------------------------------- Snorlax used Body Slam! (12% damage) It's not very effective... --------------------------------- Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #171 poke god's Skarmory: 53% HP Borat's Snorlax: 394 HP Para chance: 0/3 Begin Turn #172 Skarmory used Rest! Skarmory went to sleep! --------------------------------- Snorlax used Body Slam! (14% damage) It's not very effective... --------------------------------- Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #172 poke god's Skarmory: 93% HP (Slp) Borat's Snorlax: 427 HP Begin Turn #173 Borat withdrew Snorlax! Borat sent out Marowak (Lv.100 Marowak)! --------------------------------- Skarmory is fast asleep. --------------------------------- Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #173 poke god's Skarmory: 99% HP (Slp) Borat's Marowak: 323 HP Begin Turn #174 Marowak used Swords Dance! Marowak's Attack sharply rose! --------------------------------- Skarmory is fast asleep. --------------------------------- Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #174 poke god's Skarmory: 100% HP (Slp) Borat's Marowak: 323 HP Chance for victory #3: 12% Begin Turn #175 Marowak used Rock Slide! (50% damage) --------------------------------- Skarmory woke up! Skarmory used Whirlwind! Marowak was blown away! Snorlax (Lv.100 Snorlax) was dragged out! --------------------------------- Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #175 poke god's Skarmory: 56% HP Borat's Snorlax: 460 HP Begin Turn #176 Skarmory used Drill Peck! (116 damage) --------------------------------- Snorlax used Body Slam! (13% damage) It's not very effective... --------------------------------- Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #176 poke god's Skarmory: 49% HP Borat's Snorlax: 377 HP Para chance: 0/4 Begin Turn #177 Skarmory used Drill Peck! (100 damage) --------------------------------- Snorlax used Body Slam! (13% damage) It's not very effective... Skarmory is paralyzed! It may be unable to move! --------------------------------- Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #177 poke god's Skarmory: 42% HP (Par) Borat's Snorlax: 310 HP Para chance: 1/5 95% of me wanted to switch to Marowak... Begin Turn #178 Snorlax used Body Slam! (25% damage) A critical hit! It's not very effective... --------------------------------- Skarmory used Rest! Skarmory went to sleep! --------------------------------- Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #178 poke god's Skarmory: 100% HP (Slp) Borat's Snorlax: 343 HP And the 5% prevailed once again. So many misplays contributed through 3 years of not playing anything half as challenging as a down to earth match of Pokemon GSC. Oh well... Begin Turn #179 Borat withdrew Snorlax! Borat sent out Marowak (Lv.100 Marowak)! --------------------------------- Skarmory is fast asleep. --------------------------------- End of turn #179 poke god's Skarmory: 100% HP (Slp) Borat's Marowak: 323 HP Begin Turn #180 Marowak used Swords Dance! Marowak's Attack sharply rose! --------------------------------- Skarmory is fast asleep. --------------------------------- End of turn #180 poke god's Skarmory: 100% HP (Slp) Borat's Marowak: 323 HP Chance for victory #4: 12% Begin Turn #181 Marowak used Rock Slide! (50% damage) --------------------------------- Skarmory woke up! Skarmory used Whirlwind! Marowak was blown away! Snorlax (Lv.100 Snorlax) was dragged out! --------------------------------- Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #181 poke god's Skarmory: 57% HP Borat's Snorlax: 376 HP Begin Turn #182 Skarmory used Drill Peck! (104 damage) --------------------------------- Snorlax used Body Slam! (12% damage) It's not very effective... --------------------------------- Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #182 poke god's Skarmory: 51% HP Borat's Snorlax: 305 HP Para chance: 1/6 Begin Turn #183 Snorlax used Body Slam! (13% damage) It's not very effective... --------------------------------- Skarmory used Whirlwind! Snorlax was blown away! Suicune (Lv.100 Suicune) was dragged out! --------------------------------- Suicune's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #183 poke god's Skarmory: 44% HP Borat's Suicune: 388 HP Para chance: 1/7 Begin Turn #184 Suicune used Surf! (40% damage) --------------------------------- Skarmory used Rest! Skarmory went to sleep! --------------------------------- Suicune's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #184 poke god's Skarmory: 100% HP (Slp) Borat's Suicune: 403 HP Technically a CH would've won it, but there was nothing forcing the issue, so I don’t really consider this a chance at victory. Begin Turn #185 Suicune used Surf! (38% damage) --------------------------------- Skarmory is fast asleep. --------------------------------- Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #185 poke god's Skarmory: 69% HP (Slp) Borat's Suicune: 403 HP Cool. He thought I'd go to Marowak again, but I was really short on Rock Slides. Couldn't take the 12% chances anymore. Begin Turn #186 poke god withdrew Skarmory! poke god sent out Starmie (Lv.100 Starmie)! --------------------------------- Borat withdrew Suicune! Borat sent out Snorlax (Lv.100 Snorlax)! --------------------------------- Starmie's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #186 poke god's Starmie: 92% HP Borat's Snorlax: 338 HP Begin Turn #187 poke god withdrew Starmie! poke god sent out Tyranitar (Lv.100 Tyranitar)! --------------------------------- Borat withdrew Snorlax! Borat sent out Suicune (Lv.100 Suicune)! --------------------------------- Tyranitar's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #187 poke god's Tyranitar: 96% HP Borat's Suicune: 403 HP Begin Turn #188 poke god withdrew Tyranitar! poke god sent out Starmie (Lv.100 Starmie)! --------------------------------- Suicune used Ice Beam! (11% damage) It's not very effective... Starmie was frozen solid! --------------------------------- Starmie's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #188 poke god's Starmie: 87% HP (Frz) Borat's Suicune: 403 HP Fun. I can Rock Slide with Marowak without repercussions now. And I don't have to keep Marowak at full HP for a sweep anymore. Too bad none of that comes into play... Begin Turn #189 poke god withdrew Starmie! poke god sent out Skarmory (Lv.100 Skarmory)! --------------------------------- Borat withdrew Suicune! Borat sent out Marowak (Lv.100 Marowak)! --------------------------------- Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #189 poke god's Skarmory: 75% HP (Slp) Borat's Marowak: 323 HP Begin Turn #190 Marowak used Swords Dance! Marowak's Attack sharply rose! --------------------------------- Skarmory is fast asleep. --------------------------------- Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #190 poke god's Skarmory: 81% HP (Slp) Borat's Marowak: 323 HP Chance for victory #5: 36% Begin Turn #191 Marowak used Rock Slide! (45% damage) --------------------------------- Skarmory woke up! Skarmory used Whirlwind! Marowak was blown away! Snorlax (Lv.100 Snorlax) was dragged out! --------------------------------- Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #191 poke god's Skarmory: 42% HP Borat's Snorlax: 371 HP Borat: dfsgfdgsdfgsd Borat: fg Borat: sdfg Borat: sd It’s getting frustrating at this point. Luck is bailing him out time and time again. Begin Turn #196 Borat withdrew Snorlax! Borat sent out Marowak (Lv.100 Marowak)! --------------------------------- Skarmory woke up! Skarmory used Rest! Skarmory went to sleep! --------------------------------- End of turn #196 poke god's Skarmory: 100% HP (Slp) Borat's Marowak: 323 HP Begin Turn #197 Marowak used Swords Dance! Marowak's Attack sharply rose! --------------------------------- Skarmory is fast asleep. --------------------------------- End of turn #197 poke god's Skarmory: 100% HP (Slp) Borat's Marowak: 323 HP Begin Turn #198 Marowak used Rock Slide! (47% damage) --------------------------------- Skarmory is fast asleep. --------------------------------- Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #198 poke god's Skarmory: 60% HP (Slp) Borat's Marowak: 323 HP Chance for victory #6: 36% Begin Turn #199 Marowak used Rock Slide! (45% damage) --------------------------------- Skarmory woke up! Skarmory used Whirlwind! Marowak was blown away! Snorlax (Lv.100 Snorlax) was dragged out! --------------------------------- Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #199 poke god's Skarmory: 22% HP Borat's Snorlax: 420 HP Begin Turn #200 Snorlax used Belly Drum! Snorlax cut its own HP and maximized Attack! --------------------------------- Skarmory used Whirlwind! Snorlax was blown away! Miltank (Lv.100 Miltank) was dragged out! --------------------------------- Miltank's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #200 poke god's Skarmory: 28% HP Borat's Miltank: 256 HP Good for him. What can I say. Begin Turn #216 Borat withdrew Suicune! Borat sent out Marowak (Lv.100 Marowak)! --------------------------------- Snorlax is fast asleep. --------------------------------- Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #216 poke god's Snorlax: 88% HP (Slp) Borat's Marowak: 323 HP Danbear has started watching. Danbear: very fast paced action here aye? Begin Turn #217 poke god withdrew Snorlax! poke god sent out Skarmory (Lv.100 Skarmory)! --------------------------------- Marowak used Swords Dance! Marowak's Attack sharply rose! --------------------------------- End of turn #217 poke god's Skarmory: 100% HP (Slp) Borat's Marowak: 323 HP Chance for victory #7: 12% Begin Turn #218 Marowak used Rock Slide! Marowak's attack missed! --------------------------------- Skarmory woke up! Skarmory used Whirlwind! Marowak was blown away! Miltank (Lv.100 Miltank) was dragged out! --------------------------------- Miltank's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #218 poke god's Skarmory: 100% HP Borat's Miltank: 258 HP Begin Turn #219 poke god withdrew Skarmory! poke god sent out Tyranitar (Lv.100 Tyranitar)! --------------------------------- Miltank used Body Slam! (11% damage) It's not very effective... --------------------------------- Miltank's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Tyranitar's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #219 poke god's Tyranitar: 49% HP Borat's Miltank: 283 HP Para chance: 1/8 Begin Turn #220 Miltank used Body Slam! (11% damage) It's not very effective... --------------------------------- Tyranitar used Crunch! (119 damage) --------------------------------- Miltank's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Tyranitar's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #220 poke god's Tyranitar: 44% HP Borat's Miltank: 189 HP Para chance: 1/9 Begin Turn #221 Miltank used Milk Drink! Miltank regained health! --------------------------------- Tyranitar used Crunch! (121 damage) --------------------------------- Miltank's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Tyranitar's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #221 poke god's Tyranitar: 50% HP Borat's Miltank: 289 HP Begin Turn #222 Miltank used Body Slam! (11% damage) It's not very effective... --------------------------------- Tyranitar used Crunch! (107 damage) --------------------------------- Miltank's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Tyranitar's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #222 poke god's Tyranitar: 46% HP Borat's Miltank: 207 HP Para chance: 1/10 Begin Turn #223 Miltank used Body Slam! (10% damage) It's not very effective... --------------------------------- Tyranitar used Crunch! (112 damage) --------------------------------- Miltank's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Tyranitar's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #223 poke god's Tyranitar: 42% HP Borat's Miltank: 120 HP Para chance: 1/11 Begin Turn #224 Miltank used Milk Drink! Miltank regained health! --------------------------------- Tyranitar used Crunch! (232 damage) A critical hit! --------------------------------- Miltank's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Tyranitar's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #224 poke god's Tyranitar: 48% HP Borat's Miltank: 109 HP Begin Turn #225 Miltank used Milk Drink! Miltank regained health! --------------------------------- Tyranitar used Crunch! (111 damage) Miltank's Special Defense fell! --------------------------------- Miltank's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Tyranitar's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #225 poke god's Tyranitar: 54% HP Borat's Miltank: 219 HP Always fun to get CH'd then spc downed. Begin Turn #236 Miltank used Heal Bell! A bell chimed! --------------------------------- Snorlax woke up! Snorlax used Curse! Snorlax's Attack rose! Snorlax's Defense rose! Snorlax's Speed fell! --------------------------------- Miltank's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #236 poke god's Snorlax: 80% HP Borat's Miltank: 344 HP Begin Turn #237 Borat withdrew Miltank! Borat sent out Skarmory (Lv.100 Skarmory)! --------------------------------- Snorlax used Belly Drum! Snorlax cut its own HP and maximized Attack! --------------------------------- Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #237 poke god's Snorlax: 36% HP Borat's Skarmory: 333 HP Begin Turn #238 Skarmory used Curse! Skarmory's Attack rose! Skarmory's Defense rose! Skarmory's Speed fell! --------------------------------- Snorlax used Body Slam! (87 damage) It's not very effective... --------------------------------- Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #238 poke god's Snorlax: 42% HP Borat's Skarmory: 267 HP Begin Turn #239 Skarmory used Drill Peck! (20% damage) --------------------------------- Snorlax used Body Slam! (93 damage) It's not very effective... Skarmory is paralyzed! It may be unable to move! --------------------------------- Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #239 poke god's Snorlax: 28% HP Borat's Skarmory: 195 HP (Par) How does he do it? Begin Turn #240 Snorlax used Body Slam! (94 damage) It's not very effective... --------------------------------- Skarmory is paralyzed! It can't move! --------------------------------- Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #240 poke god's Snorlax: 34% HP Borat's Skarmory: 122 HP (Par) Rest attempt fail #1. Begin Turn #241 Snorlax used Body Slam! (92 damage) It's not very effective... --------------------------------- Skarmory is paralyzed! It can't move! --------------------------------- Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #241 poke god's Snorlax: 41% HP Borat's Skarmory: 51 HP (Par) Rest attempt fail #2. Begin Turn #242 Snorlax used Body Slam! (51 damage) A critical hit! It's not very effective... Skarmory fainted! Borat sent out Marowak (Lv.100 Marowak)! --------------------------------- Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #242 poke god's Snorlax: 47% HP Borat's Marowak: 323 HP Borat: wow Borat: wrong Borat: move Borat: that was your last body slam right It was. I can't count worth a damn. 2 years of not playing Pokemon reduces one's ability to count to 24. For the record, I had a 344 HP Miltank, which could’ve survived a 999 STAB'd Body Slam. Begin Turn #248 poke god withdrew Starmie! poke god sent out Skarmory (Lv.100 Skarmory)! --------------------------------- Snorlax used Body Slam! (12% damage) It's not very effective... Skarmory is paralyzed! It may be unable to move! --------------------------------- Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #248 poke god's Skarmory: 94% HP (Par) Borat's Snorlax: 523 HP Sweet. Para chance: 2/12 Begin Turn #249 Snorlax used Belly Drum! Snorlax cut its own HP and maximized Attack! --------------------------------- Skarmory used Drill Peck! (100 damage) --------------------------------- Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #249 poke god's Skarmory: 100% HP (Par) Borat's Snorlax: 195 HP Para kick in please! Or at least WW to Marowak. Begin Turn #250 Snorlax used Body Slam! (37% damage) It's not very effective... --------------------------------- Skarmory used Whirlwind! Snorlax was blown away! Miltank (Lv.100 Miltank) was dragged out! --------------------------------- Miltank's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #250 poke god's Skarmory: 69% HP (Par) Borat's Miltank: 369 HP Double fail. Begin Turn #251 Borat withdrew Miltank! Borat sent out Marowak (Lv.100 Marowak)! --------------------------------- Skarmory used Rest! Skarmory went to sleep! --------------------------------- End of turn #251 poke god's Skarmory: 100% HP (Slp) Borat's Marowak: 323 HP Begin Turn #252 Marowak used Swords Dance! Marowak's Attack sharply rose! --------------------------------- Skarmory is fast asleep. --------------------------------- End of turn #252 poke god's Skarmory: 100% HP (Slp) Borat's Marowak: 323 HP Begin Turn #253 Marowak used Rock Slide! (50% damage) --------------------------------- Skarmory is fast asleep. --------------------------------- Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #253 poke god's Skarmory: 56% HP (Slp) Borat's Marowak: 323 HP Chance for victory #8: 36% Begin Turn #254 Marowak used Rock Slide! (42% damage) --------------------------------- Skarmory woke up! Skarmory used Whirlwind! Marowak was blown away! Miltank (Lv.100 Miltank) was dragged out! --------------------------------- Miltank's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #254 poke god's Skarmory: 20% HP Borat's Miltank: 393 HP Begin Turn #255 Borat withdrew Miltank! Borat sent out Marowak (Lv.100 Marowak)! --------------------------------- Skarmory used Rest! Skarmory went to sleep! --------------------------------- End of turn #255 poke god's Skarmory: 100% HP (Slp) Borat's Marowak: 323 HP Begin Turn #256 Marowak used Swords Dance! Marowak's Attack sharply rose! --------------------------------- Skarmory is fast asleep. --------------------------------- End of turn #256 poke god's Skarmory: 100% HP (Slp) Borat's Marowak: 323 HP Begin Turn #257 Marowak used Rock Slide! (44% damage) --------------------------------- Skarmory is fast asleep. --------------------------------- Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #257 poke god's Skarmory: 62% HP (Slp) Borat's Marowak: 323 HP Chance for victory #9: 36% I had 3 Rock Slides left at this point. Begin Turn #258 Marowak used Rock Slide! (47% damage) --------------------------------- Skarmory woke up! Skarmory used Whirlwind! Marowak was blown away! Suicune (Lv.100 Suicune) was dragged out! --------------------------------- Suicune's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #258 poke god's Skarmory: 21% HP Borat's Suicune: 253 HP Figures. Now this becomes somewhat tough for me. Without Marowak, killing Skarm just became that much harder. Begin Turn #262 Starmie is frozen solid! --------------------------------- Suicune used Surf! (11% damage) It's not very effective... Starmie fainted! poke god sent out Snorlax (Lv.100 Snorlax)! --------------------------------- Suicune's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #262 poke god's Snorlax: 53% HP Borat's Suicune: 353 HP For the record, Starmie remained frozen for 6 turns. Odds of that happening are .9^6= ~53%, more than half the time. Begin Turn #275 Suicune is fast asleep. Suicune used Sleep Talk! Suicune used Rest! Suicune went to sleep! --------------------------------- Tyranitar used Thunderbolt! (130 damage) It's super effective! --------------------------------- Suicune's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Tyranitar's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #275 poke god's Tyranitar: 100% HP Borat's Suicune: 298 HP (Slp) Begin Turn #276 Suicune is fast asleep. Suicune used Sleep Talk! Suicune used Ice Beam! (18% damage) --------------------------------- Tyranitar used Thunderbolt! (129 damage) It's super effective! --------------------------------- Suicune's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Tyranitar's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #276 poke god's Tyranitar: 89% HP Borat's Suicune: 194 HP (Slp) Begin Turn #277 Suicune is fast asleep. Suicune used Sleep Talk! Suicune used Ice Beam! (17% damage) --------------------------------- Tyranitar used Thunderbolt! (194 damage) A critical hit! It's super effective! Suicune fainted! Borat: eh Borat sent out Marowak (Lv.100 Marowak)! --------------------------------- Tyranitar's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #277 poke god's Tyranitar: 78% HP Borat's Marowak: 323 HP Had I hit Rest in either one of the two prior STs, or if he didn't CH, I would've been alive. Honestly, odds were something like 98% or 49:1 in my favor of Suicune surviving the ordeal. Oh well. Begin Turn #281 Skarmory used Drill Peck! (76 damage) --------------------------------- Marowak used Swords Dance! Marowak's Attack sharply rose! --------------------------------- End of turn #281 poke god's Skarmory: 100% HP Borat's Marowak: 247 HP With Starmie gone and Snorlax without attacks, I could more freely play around with Marowak's HP. Begin Turn #290 Borat withdrew Snorlax! Borat sent out Marowak (Lv.100 Marowak)! --------------------------------- Skarmory used Drill Peck! (156 damage) A critical hit! --------------------------------- End of turn #290 poke god's Skarmory: 100% HP Borat's Marowak: 91 HP Ate my words not 10 turns later. I wasn't staying in, seeing as my luck is horrendous. Since I was out of Rock Slides at this point, I had to find another way to win. Neither of us had enough offense to break the other. What I did have though, is two Pokemon extremely adept at taking advantage of Struggle, whereas he had one. Slowly but surely, I'd waste my PP so that I can deliver a 999 attack Struggle. I was careful not to use up all my Earthquakes so I can keep Skarmory active instead of the other two. Begin Turn #291 Borat withdrew Marowak! Borat sent out Snorlax (Lv.100 Snorlax)! --------------------------------- Skarmory used Drill Peck! (102 damage) --------------------------------- Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #291 poke god's Skarmory: 100% HP Borat's Snorlax: 365 HP Begin Turn #307 Borat withdrew Miltank! Borat sent out Marowak (Lv.100 Marowak)! --------------------------------- Snorlax is fast asleep. --------------------------------- End of turn #307 poke god's Snorlax: 100% HP (Slp) Borat's Marowak: 91 HP [b]Always an opening.[b/] Begin Turn #308 Marowak used Rest! Marowak went to sleep! --------------------------------- Snorlax is fast asleep. --------------------------------- End of turn #308 poke god's Snorlax: 100% HP (Slp) Borat's Marowak: 323 HP (Slp) Begin Turn #334 Marowak used Rest! Marowak went to sleep! --------------------------------- Skarmory used Whirlwind! Marowak was blown away! Snorlax (Lv.100 Snorlax) was dragged out! --------------------------------- End of turn #334 poke god's Skarmory: 100% HP Borat's Snorlax: 523 HP At this point, I was counting everything. I had to be sure he was out of either Whirlwinds or before I could abuse 999 attack struggle. In order to do that, I had to force Skarm to use attacks instead of mindlessly switching around. And I had the Pokemon to do that. Whereas I could waste PP via switching, he HAD to keep Skarmory in versus Marowak or risk an EQ if he decides to get cute with prediction Begin Turn #421 Marowak used Earthquake! (97% damage) --------------------------------- Snorlax used Rest! Snorlax went to sleep! --------------------------------- End of turn #421 poke god's Snorlax: 100% HP (Slp) Borat's Marowak: 323 HP Case in point. Sort of. The next one’s better. Begin Turn #428 Borat withdrew Marowak! Borat sent out Miltank (Lv.100 Miltank)! --------------------------------- Skarmory used Whirlwind! Miltank was blown away! Snorlax (Lv.100 Snorlax) was dragged out! --------------------------------- End of turn #428 poke god's Skarmory: 100% HP Borat's Snorlax: 523 HP (Slp) Last whirlwind... meaning he had no way to get rid of my Snorlax, who also packed nothing but EQs, forcing Skarm's hand. Or if you want to get cute with predictions again: the real case in point. Begin Turn #436 Snorlax woke up! Snorlax used Earthquake! (100% damage) It's super effective! Tyranitar fainted! poke god sent out Skarmory (Lv.100 Skarmory)! --------------------------------- End of turn #436 poke god's Skarmory: 100% HP Borat's Snorlax: 523 HP Begin Turn #460 Skarmory used Rest! Skarmory's HP is full! --------------------------------- Snorlax used Rest! Snorlax went to sleep! --------------------------------- End of turn #460 poke god's Skarmory: 100% HP Borat's Snorlax: 523 HP (Slp) Horrible misplay here, should've used drum. Getting rid of drum as soon as possible ensures that your last attack will be Rest before your 999 attack struggles and not something that destroys half your life. But then again, I didn't bother to check his PP. I knew he was out of Drill Pecks, but I thought he had a lot more PP left of Rest, giving me plenty of opportunities to drum. At this point: 1. My vision was blurring. 2. I honestly didn't care that much anymore. 3. I started drinking. Begin Turn #463 poke god withdrew Snorlax! poke god sent out Skarmory (Lv.100 Skarmory)! --------------------------------- Snorlax woke up! Snorlax used Belly Drum! Snorlax cut its own HP and maximized Attack! --------------------------------- Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #463 poke god's Skarmory: 100% HP Borat's Snorlax: 295 HP I realized a turn too late, that I had an extra drum left. Begin Turn #464 Skarmory used Struggle! (45 damage) Skarmory is hit with recoil! --------------------------------- Snorlax used Earthquake! It doesn't affect Skarmory... --------------------------------- Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #464 poke god's Skarmory: 100% HP Borat's Snorlax: 283 HP Drumming here would get me killed. Begin Turn #465 Skarmory used Struggle! (49 damage) Skarmory is hit with recoil! --------------------------------- Snorlax used Rest! Snorlax went to sleep! --------------------------------- Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #465 poke god's Skarmory: 99% HP Borat's Snorlax: 523 HP (Slp) Begin Turn #466 poke god withdrew Skarmory! poke god sent out Snorlax (Lv.100 Snorlax)! --------------------------------- Snorlax is fast asleep. --------------------------------- End of turn #466 poke god's Snorlax: 100% HP (Slp) Borat's Snorlax: 523 HP (Slp) He was keeping count of my drum/rest PP. Clever, he needed me at full HP to ensure I couldn't drum twice. If he had kept Skarm in, I would've been able to drum, bringing myself to <40%, allowing myself to drum once again. Begin Turn #467 Snorlax is fast asleep. --------------------------------- Snorlax is fast asleep. --------------------------------- End of turn #467 poke god's Snorlax: 100% HP (Slp) Borat's Snorlax: 523 HP (Slp) Begin Turn #468 poke god withdrew Snorlax! poke god sent out Skarmory (Lv.100 Skarmory)! --------------------------------- Snorlax woke up! Snorlax used Belly Drum! Snorlax cut its own HP and maximized Attack! --------------------------------- Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #468 poke god's Skarmory: 100% HP Borat's Snorlax: 295 HP Ugh. I would’ve been in a position to win had I not misplayed the Drum/Rests. Begin Turn #469 Skarmory used Struggle! (49 damage) Skarmory is hit with recoil! --------------------------------- Snorlax used Struggle! (29% damage) Snorlax is hit with recoil! --------------------------------- Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #469 poke god's Skarmory: 70% HP Borat's Snorlax: 231 HP Begin Turn #470 poke god withdrew Skarmory! poke god sent out Snorlax (Lv.100 Snorlax)! --------------------------------- Snorlax used Struggle! (34% damage) Snorlax is hit with recoil! --------------------------------- Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #470 poke god's Snorlax: 72% HP (Slp) Borat's Snorlax: 176 HP He still needed Skarmory for my Miltank. Begin Turn #471 Snorlax used Struggle! (67% damage) A critical hit! Snorlax is hit with recoil! Snorlax fainted! Eh, not much I can do here. 30 turns of PP wasting, ensue as I realize I don't have enough Body Slams to take down Skarm. His Snorlax comes in on my mispredictions and heal up. Begin Turn #503 poke god withdrew Skarmory! poke god sent out Snorlax (Lv.100 Snorlax)! --------------------------------- Borat withdrew Miltank! Borat sent out Marowak (Lv.100 Marowak)! --------------------------------- Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #503 poke god's Snorlax: 30% HP (Slp) Borat's Marowak: 323 HP I'm careful not to make the same mistake again with Marowak. I make certain that Rest is my last move before struggling. It's times like these where Leftovers Marowak doesn't seem that out of whack. Begin Turn #522 poke god withdrew Snorlax! poke god sent out Skarmory (Lv.100 Skarmory)! --------------------------------- Marowak woke up! Marowak used Struggle! (32% damage) Marowak is hit with recoil! --------------------------------- Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #522 poke god's Skarmory: 74% HP (Par) Borat's Marowak: 234 HP Avatars has started watching. Begin Turn #523 Marowak used Struggle! (29% damage) Marowak is hit with recoil! --------------------------------- Skarmory used Struggle! (35 damage) Skarmory is hit with recoil! --------------------------------- Skarmory's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #523 poke god's Skarmory: 46% HP (Par) Borat's Marowak: 151 HP Begin Turn #524 Marowak used Struggle! (46% damage) A critical hit! Marowak is hit with recoil! Skarmory fainted! poke god sent out Snorlax (Lv.100 Snorlax)! --------------------------------- Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #524 poke god's Snorlax: 62% HP Borat's Marowak: 74 HP Avatars has left. Borat: how much pp do you have left poke god: whats struggles power poke god: thats what matters Cute Leader Cassy: it's 50 Borat: yeah 50 Begin Turn #525 Marowak used Struggle! (32% damage) Marowak is hit with recoil! Marowak fainted! Borat sent out Miltank (Lv.100 Miltank)! --------------------------------- Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #525 poke god's Snorlax: 36% HP Borat's Miltank: 393 HP Inevitable now really, he has more Belly Drum PPs than Rest PP, he would have to Drum twice and when he does, I can just Body Slam for the win. I have enough Growl PPs to outlast his Drum + Rest waste. Begin Turn #537 Miltank used Growl! Snorlax's Attack fell! --------------------------------- Snorlax woke up! Snorlax used Belly Drum! Snorlax cut its own HP and maximized Attack! --------------------------------- Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #537 poke god's Snorlax: 56% HP Borat's Miltank: 393 HP Begin Turn #538 Miltank used Growl! Snorlax's Attack fell! --------------------------------- Snorlax used Belly Drum! Snorlax cut its own HP and maximized Attack! --------------------------------- Snorlax's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #538 poke god's Snorlax: 13% HP Borat's Miltank: 393 HP Begin Turn #539 Miltank used Body Slam! (13% damage) Snorlax fainted! End Battle! Borat wins! Score: 0 to 1 poke god: lol poke god: gg =\ Borat: gg NetBattle v1.0.52 Log saved 12/3/2009 at 10:01:45 PM After this battle, he goes on ranting about him being in the midst of creating some revolutionary poker playing program that'd win money for him, despite how moronically impossible to anyone half-adept at understanding the very basics of the limits of artificial intelligence. Crazy fool. I admire his perseverance, ignorance really is bliss. Props Lucky CH early on. Him being a complete asshole. My being a complete asshole. Drumlax + SD/Rest Marowak is stupidly synergistic for breaking stalls. Raikou taking one for the team. I know buddy, it should’ve been Suicune. Being drunk for most of the latter half of the battle. Slops The only lucky move on my part throughout the entire game, resulting in the game lasting more than twice as long as it had to. Odds of me failing all 9 chances to win the game: .64*.88*.88*.88*.64*.64*.88*.64*.64 = 6.4%. Snorlax sucking at paralyzing. Miltank sucking at paralyzing. Marowak sucking at flinching/CHing. Suicune being suspetible to CHes during times of bad STs. Downplaying the existence of drumcurselax outside of myself. A surprising number of misplays on my part. Not being able to count to 24. Being drunk for most of the latter half of the battle. Honestly though, the battle could've gone either way from beginning to end, even when we resorted to PP wasting and whatnot, we knew one wrong move could result in some pretty devastating 999 attack struggles. That's what I like. And that's usually the result of GSC battles between two teams that were more or less, equal. This was ultimately a mirror match. Had this battle been replayed, my knowing his Pokemon and his knowing mine, it would've really just been a matter of execution and para/flinch/CH rolls. My Raikou allows me to drum more freely, whereas his t-tar could wear down my skarm much quicker with pursuit. Suicune and Starmie, for the most part, is there for show. If one of us ran Drumfable instead of the waters, it would've given him a huge advantage over the other. If I ran DE instead of Body Slam on Snorlax, I probably could've broken down skarm much quicker. Anyway, there's a lot of hypothetical situations that don't really matter. On-to part three, team analysis (because I like doing these) My team Code:
Raikou @ Leftovers - Reflect - Rest - Roar - Thunderbolt Marowak (M) @ Thick Club - Earthquake - Rest - Rock Slide - Swords Dance Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers - Curse - Drill Peck - Rest - Whirlwind Snorlax (M) @ Leftovers - Belly Drum - Body Slam - Earthquake - Rest Suicune @ Leftovers - Ice Beam - Rest - Sleep Talk - Surf Miltank (F) @ Leftovers - Body Slam - Growl - Heal Bell - Milk Drink Code:
Tyranitar (M) @ Leftovers - Crunch - Dynamicpunch - Pursuit - Thunderbolt Marowak (M) @ Thick Club - Earthquake - Rest - Rock Slide - Swords Dance Skarmory (M) @ (No Item) - Drill Peck - Rest - Thief - Whirlwind Snorlax (M) @ Leftovers - Belly Drum - Body Slam - Curse - Rest Starmie @ Leftovers - Psychic - Rapid Spin - Recover - Surf Miltank (F) @ Leftovers - Body Slam - Growl - Heal Bell - Milk Drink As aforementioned, should our teams ever clash, it just be a matter of skill and luck, the team dynamics are virtually identical in terms of breaking each other, so it comes down to execution. Versus other teams Similarities are in the coverages: regular curseshit is handled nicely by a combination of Skarmory + Miltank, the usual threats (drumzard, druidcruel, joltwak, etc) are also covered nicely. The teams dish out enough damage against quicker teams to make that matchup a tossup, and are much quicker than the slower, even more methodical teams. Because he chooses to forgo the legendary duo of Suicune + Raikou, he’s very susceptible to mixed sweepers. A mixlax, especially one running LK can have a field day here, as well as Nidoking, Dragonite, and other Tyranitars. Miltank can only hold the forte for so long. Also, oddities like growth vaporeon, cursecune, etc are also huge headaches from turn one. But if there’s one weakness my team has that his doesn’t is against certain spikes teams. Whereas I’m forced to outplay most teams running Spikes, he can generally get it out of the way without too much hassle. Starmie is the best spinner in the game, and because it packs both Psychic and Surf, it all of the spikers hard. Running Psychic also means stupid shit like Gengar can’t wall spin, and should the opponent run Misdreavus, there’s always pursuittar waiting in the wings. There are some defensive loopholes however. There’s no real answer to clefable, granted, it would have a hard time switching in in the first place. Against a growth passing team, it’s really all about attacking. It’s no different from any other team. The one-two punch delivered by Marowak + Snorlax are generally more than enough to break through even the sturdiest of stall teams. Thief on Skarmory is an interesting choice that I’ve considered myself. However, it needed to steal leftovers from either Marowak, Snorlax, or other Skarmory in order for it to really make a difference for my team. Curse offers awesome defensive coverage against drumlax; skarms are susceptible to CH Des, which OHKO. After a curse, regardless of ch, I’ll survive the ordeal. After the drum/hit ordeal, Snorlax (assuming initially full HP) will be at 62% HP, and I’ll be at 69%, versus the 62%/50% without curse. In addition, Skarm’s speed is reduced to 159 after a curse, just enough to outspeed Snorlax. And because Skarm deals an average of about 30% damage to Snorlax, that’s a 2hko, potentially ohko should I CH, which forces Snorlax to either switch or heal up. On a numerical scale, here’s how I’d rate the teams: Team #1 Offense: 7/10; enough to break every team, but you’ll be in a jiff should luck not go your way with flinch/CH/paras Defense: 8/10; will wall most orthodox sets to hell and back, “weak” to quicker spiking teams, Drumfable is deadly Consistency: 8/10; with Raikou, Snorlax, Suicune, Miltank, and Skarmory on the team, there’s very little that can go wrong against rogue opponents. Team #2: Offense: 8/10; with Pursuit Tyranitar, offense is flawless. It’s the not the quickest of teams, but with the anti-spike coverage, it’ll have plenty of opportunities. Defense: 7/10; defense against spikes teams is as good as it gets; weak to mixed sweepers and most NYPC shit; God forbid if they run two ghosts; general coverage is pretty good. Consistency: 8/10; Starmie, Skarmory, Snorlax, and Miltank is plenty coverage should you go wrong. Spoiler: There’s actually a part 4 to this, where I kind of go off ranting about GSC. Stay tuned. EDIT: Both of these teams suck. Use Starmie over Suicune. Hidden Power Raikou to update.
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all of this was made by borat not me! just gonna push it through gp first.
this was made very informally so ill skim through it and correct any grammar before the 5 gpers it will take to check this go at it edit: ready for gp. i doubt i got even half of the mistakes but this thing is long as hell
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I actually don't really want to support this part. It'll be here if anyone wants to look at it, but I honestly don't approve. Just my .02.
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Okay so maybe ill just call this something like "insight into gsc battling by borat" and get the othr stuff done first and come back to this??? who else think it
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OK me and Jelli had actually talked about this earlier, sorry for not replying.
When you go back to Borat's Part 2, it's actually split into 4 parts. This first part, the warstory/log, should really only be on the forums in the warstory archive, or in a Letter for the eventual RoA Hub (if Borat is cool with that). As for the second post, idk if that actually belongs anywhere as it's mostly just commentary and opinion, and not really facts. However, the third and fourth posts should really be morphed into a GSC threatlist. That's really all I had envisioned with this Part 2. Borat I assume you know what the other threatlists look like, how does that sound to you?
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ill try to get it done during the break cause school friggin sucks with borat's approval duh
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I rather this be scrapped altogether. It'd be a lot easier whipping one up from scratch.
I think Jorgen and I, and maybe M Dragon were suppose to whip up a threatlist something together last year but never got around to it. I don't have too much time nowadays to do any real writing/editing on a larger scale, but I'm here for comments and general analysis stuff. But everything I write will probably need proof-reading. Any who, I think Jorgen is still active, so if he's free to collaborate on a threat list, we could do that. I think most of this is his work: http://wiki.pokemon-online.eu/wiki/2...OU_Threat_List. It's pretty comprehensive, but I don't quite agree with all of it. Also, I would need someone to really explain to me what a threat list really is. And how it differentiates itself from something like an in-depth tiers list. Like an example of something that is a top OU but isn't per say a top threat, or a low crappy OU or even a BL but is a top threat. Last edited by Borat; Dec 11th, 2012 at 1:58:24 AM. |
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That threat list is, outside of the tier description page, the one GSC thing I'm not pretty much solely responsible for on the PO Wiki. I just edited it. Either way I cringe at half the stuff I wrote back then, so it would be a base at best.
Also something like this is probably what he has in mind for a threat list? Like, just a list of the biggest offensive and defensive hurdles you'd need to face, along with the names of their most common sets. I really don't think it's more than just an in-depth tier list, the difference is in how it's organized and used. The tier list proper is helpful for knowing what to use, the threat list is all in one place so you know what to focus on beating and what your team is weak against. One thing I think would need to be different for a GSC threat list would be the removal of separate offensive/defensive lists, since offense and defense are one and the same for the biggest threats so things would get pretty redundant pretty quickly. Last edited by Jorgen; Dec 11th, 2012 at 11:06:47 AM. |
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So are we nitpicking then? That's to say, there's more priority in something specializing and being amazing in it, rather than someone's that's kinda good at everything, but doesn't excel in any of them.
Case in point, tyranitar probably isn't a huge threat in GSC compared to something like Smeargle, where the next move decides the game. Speaking of Smeargle, the Smeargle analysis needs a huge update. All of the movesets are whack. Disable? Really? And is Smeargle really allowed in UU? It's BL at least. Smeargle + quagsire TOO GOOD. And it makes no sense moving quagsire to BL. |
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Well that I'm aware of, since I made that list...
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What we mean by threat list is something like this, which Umby, Triangles, and Shrapn3l did in RoA a few months back (it was originally a top 10 list, but it evolved into an on-site article). If you guys wanna start one up here for GSC, that'd be awesome.
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Would something like this work?
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That's the basic premise yes, though we'd convert it to break it down by Pokemon to fit the other threatlists we have.
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cool info here! nice to read this
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