The Official Name-Pronunciation Guide - Page 2

DHR-107 · Nov 21st, 2012, 5:43:33 PM

Great thread, but nowadays I guess there only a few people disagree on. Milotic, Gyarados, Arceus and Giratina have already been mentioned. I generally go by how the anime pronounces names (unless it sounds super stupid).

Generally when I'm talking to my friends about it, we all know each others pronunciations. I think we've got some "Sewy-coon-ee" and some "Sue-coon" going on. Giratina tends to be changed between hard and soft G's at the start which is kinda strange. I've also heard it pronounced with the start as all hard letters -"Ji-Rah-tinah".

RedMeowth · Nov 22nd, 2012, 1:45:12 AM

I remember seeing Marriland talking about Pokedex 3D Pro a week or so ago, and in that video, he showed off the pages for Zweilous and Hydreigon. And to my eternal horror, they pronounced the "ei" part like "eye":
Zweilous: "ZVI-lus"
Hydreigon: "hi-DRI-gun"
All I can say to this is "I'm pronouncing Pokemon names in ways that make sense, so screw you."

To me, pronouncing the "ei" part as "ay" (like in the word "neighbor") makes more sense. Partly, it's because of that grade-school phonics trick: "I before E except after C or when sounded like 'AY' as in 'neighbor' or 'weigh'". Partly, I prefer "ay" because when I see the "ei" in Deino, the name Damien (often associated with a demon child) comes to mind. It sounds like it fits for what is essentially a demon dragon. Besides, just calling a Pokemon "dino" sounds a little bland somehow.

Maybe this is just a personal issue, but I can't say I'm willing to trust what Pokedex 3D Pro says.

TM13IceBeam · Nov 22nd, 2012, 2:42:41 AM

i'm pretty sure Deino, Zweilous and Hydreigon have german origins for the syllables you highlighted, so English styles of speaking don't necessary apply.

i'm no speaker of german myself, but it's like how favor in 'por favor' is pronounced as 'fah-vour' and not 'fay-vour'

Jangrafess · Nov 22nd, 2012, 5:54:23 AM

Yeah, it's because ein, zwei and drei are one, two and three in German. It definitely makes more sense in this context to use the German pronunciation. Having some basic German, I've always said 'Zv-iy-less' and 'Hi-dry-gun'.

The ei is more like the i in wine than in 'eye' though really. It sounds slightly different and is really hard to convey through text format from one non-native speaker to another. Deino, phonetically, is Deino rather than Dino. There's a difference that this post can't really make distinct enough. In my Zweilous example above I used 'iy' rather than 'eye' which kinda forces me to make a slightly different shape with my mouth and thus a different noise.

Ashenlock · Nov 22nd, 2012, 8:46:29 PM

Wasn't Arceus pronounced as "Arseus" in PBR? If it's based off of 'Archeus,' though, the former would make sense.

***Wild Eep**** · Nov 23rd, 2012, 1:20:13 AM

Anyone who pronounces Ferrothorn like "fer-ROTH-orn" is dead to me.

"FER-ro-thorn." It's Ferro + thorn. Say it like that.

Ashenlock · Nov 23rd, 2012, 5:03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Ashenlock

Wasn't Arceus pronounced as "Arseus" in PBR? If it's based off of 'Archeus,' though, the former would make sense.

Confirmed that "Arseus" is how Arceus is pronounced in Battle Revolution. I don't think this pokedex is canon, or else Gamefreak decided to revamp its pronunciations.

breh · Nov 24th, 2012, 2:45:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Wild Eep

Anyone who pronounces Ferrothorn like "fer-ROTH-orn" is dead to me.

"FER-ro-thorn." It's Ferro + thorn. Say it like that.

Uh... is fe-ro-thorn ok?

And arceus is indeed "arseus" going by japanese names (I realize this isn't foolproof, but it works here).

Man, I can accept Deino = "dino" and Zweilous = "Zwilous", but Hydreigon just doesn't read well as "Hidrygun".

Antihaxxer · Nov 24th, 2012, 3:37:05 AM

For a French like me, it's even harder to pronunce it well :D

Deino = DEY-no
Zweilous = ZEY-lous
Hydreigon = I don't pronunce it :D

Jangrafess · Nov 24th, 2012, 4:16:19 AM

I'm finding it really hard to pronounce it as anything other than Hy-dry-gun!

Shining Kestral · Nov 24th, 2012, 4:20:48 AM

Arceus has had three different pronunciations in official media. Along with the official (according to Pokemon.com) "Ark-ee-us" and the PBR/commonly used "Ar-see-us," a trailer for Arceus and the Jewel of Life used "Ar-say-us" which is what ended up sticking with me.

Seth Vilo · Jan 20th, 2013, 9:19:23 PM

Update time!

Generation 5, ONE of Generation 2 thanks to the Smogcast, and all we know of Generation 6 are UP!!! Three gens to go, and they should be on soon.

Serarundqualyetaighaineon · Jan 20th, 2013, 9:36:52 PM

You guys do all know that we also have the anime for pronunciations?

Seth Vilo · Jan 20th, 2013, 10:13:39 PM

And Generation 4 is now up as well. I'm on a roll.

And yes we do, Sera___eon, but here they're all in one place to refer back to instead of having to find them either in a show or something.

Basileus · Jan 20th, 2013, 10:15:28 PM

Rayquaza is gonna start a fight...just saying

Gokuzbu · Jan 20th, 2013, 10:44:12 PM

I say Groudon as Grow-don unlike Groo-don on the anime

Seth Vilo · Jan 20th, 2013, 10:47:43 PM

Gen 3 UP!!! ONE TO GO!!!!

Seth Vilo · Jan 20th, 2013, 11:17:35 PM

The guide is now complete with everything we have so far, save Meloetta cause I can't get her on my Dex app. Once I do I'll update that. I'll also keep it up to date with the new Gen 6 Pokemon as they're coming out!

Enjoy everybody!

whoop double post

Cobraroll · Jan 21st, 2013, 5:11:52 AM

Siz-or? You kidding me?

Also, SAY-bel-eye? I don't see the extra E. Always called it SAB-lay.

LARE-on?!? Now well... time to unlearn LAI-ron. EDIT: Ahh.... I see. LARE as in one syllable, not two.

MANE-EK-trick? Four syllables? Huh?!? EDIT: Wait, I see. Mayn-EK-trick?

Spoink; SPOINK - I chuckled. Same goes for KLINK and KLANG. The way I read it, you're meant to shout. Right?

AR-kee-is? I have no qualms about AR-kee-us, but -is?!?

Cobalion; co-BAY-lee-in? Same goes here. co-BAY-lee-on, thank you.

Other than that, fantastic job. Well done and thank you!

P.S.: You may also want to have a second look at Magmortar's sprite.

Jean mi · Jan 21st, 2013, 6:51:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Serarundqualyetaighaineon

You guys do all know that we also have the anime for pronunciations?

Not everyone watches the anime as far as I know. I personally don't and the few episodes I watched was in French, my native language so I won't refer to the anime. This thread is gonna be very helpful for me.

ll_Calypso_ll · Jan 21st, 2013, 7:01:21 AM

Quite comical how many 1st Gen Pokemon I've been mispronouncing for ~15 years. Although my Glaswegian accent probably accounts for most of them. Some are just plain stupid though (WEEN-gull, really!?)

Basileus · Jan 21st, 2013, 11:27:40 AM

Most of these are wrong....

Pokemasta77 · Jan 21st, 2013, 11:32:25 AM

I always say ar-see-us. Some pronunciations are weird.

Snarbolax · Jan 21st, 2013, 11:51:46 AM

I have no idea how I managed to find this but...

Archeops' image is a Whimsicott. Not quite the killer raptor bird.

celever · Jan 21st, 2013, 12:11:29 PM

Can I just say that I love this thread, simply because all of the ones that people think should be wrong are the way I've been saying all this time! Like Lairon, forever I've been saying LARE-on, whereas everyone else has said LIE-ron! :D
Same goes for Houn-dower! :D

Nov 21st, 2012, 5:43:33 PM	#26
DHR-107 Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 420 Their World	Great thread, but nowadays I guess there only a few people disagree on. Milotic, Gyarados, Arceus and Giratina have already been mentioned. I generally go by how the anime pronounces names (unless it sounds super stupid). Generally when I'm talking to my friends about it, we all know each others pronunciations. I think we've got some "Sewy-coon-ee" and some "Sue-coon" going on. Giratina tends to be changed between hard and soft G's at the start which is kinda strange. I've also heard it pronounced with the start as all hard letters -"Ji-Rah-tinah". __________________ I'm on a mission to train every Pokemon Family during a playthrough of 3rd to 5th Gen! Currently at: 532/602! Current Team (White 2 [4 badges]): Vulpix/Zoroark/Mr Mime/Cherrim/Deerling/Marshtomp Current Team (Black 2): Solrock/Emboar/Sunflora/Crobat/Dunsparce/Azumarill

Nov 22nd, 2012, 1:45:12 AM	#27
RedMeowth Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 128	I remember seeing Marriland talking about Pokedex 3D Pro a week or so ago, and in that video, he showed off the pages for Zweilous and Hydreigon. And to my eternal horror, they pronounced the "ei" part like "eye": Zweilous: "ZVI-lus" Hydreigon: "hi-DRI-gun" All I can say to this is "I'm pronouncing Pokemon names in ways that make sense, so screw you." To me, pronouncing the "ei" part as "ay" (like in the word "neighbor") makes more sense. Partly, it's because of that grade-school phonics trick: "I before E except after C or when sounded like 'AY' as in 'neighbor' or 'weigh'". Partly, I prefer "ay" because when I see the "ei" in Deino, the name Damien (often associated with a demon child) comes to mind. It sounds like it fits for what is essentially a demon dragon. Besides, just calling a Pokemon "dino" sounds a little bland somehow. Maybe this is just a personal issue, but I can't say I'm willing to trust what Pokedex 3D Pro says. __________________ "Death is certain; it's hour, uncertain." The images used for Pokemon + Nobunaga's Ambition are BADASS!

Nov 22nd, 2012, 2:42:41 AM	#28
TM13IceBeam Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 3,246 stuck in the past, locked in the present, banned from the future	i'm pretty sure Deino, Zweilous and Hydreigon have german origins for the syllables you highlighted, so English styles of speaking don't necessary apply. i'm no speaker of german myself, but it's like how favor in 'por favor' is pronounced as 'fah-vour' and not 'fay-vour' __________________ Start of turn 24 Natu used Grass Knot! It's super effective! The foe's Corsola lost 31% of its health! Riolu ftw Amazing Rotom-S is amazing KAKUNA i'm dead, don't bother contacting me

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Jangrafess Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 140 Manchester, UK.	Yeah, it's because ein, zwei and drei are one, two and three in German. It definitely makes more sense in this context to use the German pronunciation. Having some basic German, I've always said 'Zv-iy-less' and 'Hi-dry-gun'. The ei is more like the i in wine than in 'eye' though really. It sounds slightly different and is really hard to convey through text format from one non-native speaker to another. Deino, phonetically, is Deino rather than Dino. There's a difference that this post can't really make distinct enough. In my Zweilous example above I used 'iy' rather than 'eye' which kinda forces me to make a slightly different shape with my mouth and thus a different noise. __________________ My Red Scramble. My HeartGold Scramble. My Randomizer Nuzlocke (Emerald)

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Nov 24th, 2012, 3:37:05 AM	#34
Antihaxxer Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 336	For a French like me, it's even harder to pronunce it well :D Deino = DEY-no Zweilous = ZEY-lous Hydreigon = I don't pronunce it :D

Nov 24th, 2012, 4:16:19 AM	#35
Jangrafess Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 140 Manchester, UK.	I'm finding it really hard to pronounce it as anything other than Hy-dry-gun! __________________ My Red Scramble. My HeartGold Scramble. My Randomizer Nuzlocke (Emerald)

Nov 24th, 2012, 4:20:48 AM	#36
Shining Kestral Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 322 is still here, just with nothing to say	Arceus has had three different pronunciations in official media. Along with the official (according to Pokemon.com) "Ark-ee-us" and the PBR/commonly used "Ar-see-us," a trailer for Arceus and the Jewel of Life used "Ar-say-us" which is what ended up sticking with me. __________________ Soul Silver FC: 1205 5489 1946

Jan 20th, 2013, 9:19:23 PM	#37
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Jan 20th, 2013, 9:36:52 PM	#38
Serarundqualyetaighaineon Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 5	You guys do all know that we also have the anime for pronunciations? __________________ You can call me Sera.

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Seth Vilo Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 426 US East Coast	And Generation 4 is now up as well. I'm on a roll. And yes we do, Sera___eon, but here they're all in one place to refer back to instead of having to find them either in a show or something. __________________ This is a haiku. Sometimes haiku's do not rhyme. Refrigerator. Professional Lurker since March, 2009 (And it's Vilo: veye-low, like the i in pie) {Projects: How do I pronounce that Pokemon...?; ...}

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Basileus Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 267 The ice kingdom	Rayquaza is gonna start a fight...just saying __________________ ~Arguing with a fool proves there are two~

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Gokuzbu Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 131	I say Groudon as Grow-don unlike Groo-don on the anime

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Seth Vilo Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 426 US East Coast	Gen 3 UP!!! ONE TO GO!!!! __________________ This is a haiku. Sometimes haiku's do not rhyme. Refrigerator. Professional Lurker since March, 2009 (And it's Vilo: veye-low, like the i in pie) {Projects: How do I pronounce that Pokemon...?; ...}

Jan 20th, 2013, 11:17:35 PM	#43
Seth Vilo Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 426 US East Coast	The guide is now complete with everything we have so far, save Meloetta cause I can't get her on my Dex app. Once I do I'll update that. I'll also keep it up to date with the new Gen 6 Pokemon as they're coming out! Enjoy everybody! whoop double post __________________ This is a haiku. Sometimes haiku's do not rhyme. Refrigerator. Professional Lurker since March, 2009 (And it's Vilo: veye-low, like the i in pie) {Projects: How do I pronounce that Pokemon...?; ...}

Jan 21st, 2013, 5:11:52 AM	#44
Cobraroll Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 708	Siz-or? You kidding me? Also, SAY-bel-eye? I don't see the extra E. Always called it SAB-lay. LARE-on?!? Now well... time to unlearn LAI-ron. EDIT: Ahh.... I see. LARE as in one syllable, not two. MANE-EK-trick? Four syllables? Huh?!? EDIT: Wait, I see. Mayn-EK-trick? Spoink; SPOINK - I chuckled. Same goes for KLINK and KLANG. The way I read it, you're meant to shout. Right? AR-kee-is? I have no qualms about AR-kee-us, but -is?!? Cobalion; co-BAY-lee-in? Same goes here. co-BAY-lee-on, thank you. Other than that, fantastic job. Well done and thank you! P.S.: You may also want to have a second look at Magmortar's sprite. Last edited by Cobraroll; Jan 21st, 2013 at 6:53:00 AM.

Jan 21st, 2013, 7:01:21 AM	#46
ll_Calypso_ll Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 32	Quite comical how many 1st Gen Pokemon I've been mispronouncing for ~15 years. Although my Glaswegian accent probably accounts for most of them. Some are just plain stupid though (WEEN-gull, really!?)

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Basileus Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 267 The ice kingdom	Most of these are wrong.... __________________ ~Arguing with a fool proves there are two~

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Jan 21st, 2013, 12:11:29 PM	#50
celever Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,088 I HATE COD	Can I just say that I love this thread, simply because all of the ones that people think should be wrong are the way I've been saying all this time! Like Lairon, forever I've been saying LARE-on, whereas everyone else has said LIE-ron! :D Same goes for Houn-dower! :D