Wooper used ice butt! - Page 2

Organization Member XIV · Nov 28th, 2012, 7:30:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat LucaroarkZ

What I don't get about GameFreak is just one simple thing:

Snorlax gets Selfdestruct. Like seriously, can you imagine tiny bits of Snorlax just flying around everywhere? I can't.

Yup, just as crazy as Shadow Ball.

Zacchaeus · Nov 28th, 2012, 7:38:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat NixHex

Dugtrio gets Aerial Ace and that pretty much defies all logic, considering no one knows what its body looks like.

Aerial Ace doesn't directly relate to flight or the air in general as far as I can tell. The weird part is Dugtrio learning Slash. Once again the Japanese name of the attack could cause confusion (like Sucker Punch) but the in-game description of Slash identifies using claws or blades so it's ONE OF NATURE'S MYSTERIES

Organization Member XIV · Nov 28th, 2012, 7:50:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Zacchaeus

Aerial Ace doesn't directly relate to flight or the air in general as far as I can tell. The weird part is Dugtrio learning Slash. Once again the Japanese name of the attack could cause confusion (like Sucker Punch) but the in-game description of Slash identifies using claws or blades so it's ONE OF NATURE'S MYSTERIES

Also, Slash's Japanese name is Tear Into Pieces. How does Dugtrio do that again? >.> Trollfreak. Just >.>

Jimera0 · Nov 28th, 2012, 7:50:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat vileman

Im not sure if this belongs here but im REALLY mad at gyrados being flying and not dragon. I mean, look at it, being all big and learning all them dragon moves.
Also, lot of pokes seems to summon toxic out of nowhere. How blissey, the happinness pokemon, can make a pokemon get deeply poisoned?

http://www.rarecandytreatment.com/co...ou-know/#cpage

As for some of the other things, some of them are just technical things (Gastly gets the elemental punches because its evolution does and it's probably easier on everyone to not limit it until it evolves), others are translation issues (Roost and Sucker Punch for example).

As for some of the odder ones like Raticate using Ice Beam, I just wave it off as normal types having deep hidden magical powers of a sort. Like Normal is the base from which all types emerge, so normal types have bits and pieces of the characteristics of all the other types.

Protect I always imagined the Pokemon just doing some sort of defensive action that allows them to dodge or block the attack, rather than a psychic barrier of some sort.

No, what really gets me are things like Diglet and Dugtrio getting Slash and Scratch.

What the flying fuck? HOW DOES THAT WORK!?!??!

MapleDoom · Nov 28th, 2012, 7:59:50 PM

Ah, Gamefreak shennanigans...

NOMINEES
Gastly w/ Elemental Punches
Pikachu w/ Fly and Surf
Dugtrio w/ Cut, Slash, Sucker Punch, and Aerial Ace
Nidoking w/ Fire Blast, Ice Beam, and Thunderbolt

IMO, why does Gyrados gets Bounce? I just don't know how it flys/jumps... XD

**R_N** · Nov 28th, 2012, 8:02:00 PM

I figure Dugtrio got it due to actually having feet/claws but we just never see them

The Agonist · Nov 28th, 2012, 8:02:37 PM

iirc in the anime Gyarados is capable of flying (or at least, has been shown flying).

M. Rock · Nov 28th, 2012, 8:14:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat MapleDoom

Ah, Gamefreak shennanigans...

NOMINEES
Gastly w/ Elemental Punches
Pikachu w/ Fly and Surf
Dugtrio w/ Cut, Slash, Sucker Punch, and Aerial Ace
Nidoking w/ Fire Blast, Ice Beam, and Thunderbolt

IMO, why does Gyrados gets Bounce? I just don't know how it flys/jumps... XD

Those moves on Pikachu were for special events...so they were probably supposed to be silly and logic-defying.

As for the Nidoking thing, as far as I know GF likes to give most big, intimidating-looking monster Pokemon attacks that they can shoot out their mouth (Fire Blast and Ice Beam). The Thunderbolt part's a mystery, though. Hey, at least those move help make one of my favorite mons viable (aside from Sheer Force) =D

dinosaurdan · Nov 28th, 2012, 8:36:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat LucaroarkZ

What I don't get about GameFreak is just one simple thing:

Snorlax gets Selfdestruct. Like seriously, can you imagine tiny bits of Snorlax just flying around everywhere? I can't.

Explosion Lickilicky.

If we're on the topic of Gamefreak being generally weird with Digglet, how in the hell does it mate with Wailord? That's much more stupid than Skitty-on-Wailord action.
EDIT: 200th post. So proud.

Hulavuta · Nov 28th, 2012, 9:07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat vileman

Im not sure if this belongs here but im REALLY mad at gyrados being flying and not dragon. I mean, look at it, being all big and learning all them dragon moves.
Also, lot of pokes seems to summon toxic out of nowhere. How blissey, the happinness pokemon, can make a pokemon get deeply poisoned?

I thought Gyarados should be Water/Dragon too, but I can't help but think that Game Freak made it Water/Flying more for gameplay reasons rather than story reasons.

I dunno if a Water/Dragon Gyarados would be overpowered or not nowadays, but back in Red and Blue, it would have no weaknesses. Water/Dragon's only weakness is Dragon, and the only Dragon move back then was Dragon Rage...so yeah

**Mario With Lasers** · Nov 28th, 2012, 9:10:54 PM

Pikachu flies attaching balloons to its back (as seen on: Pokémon Yellow's opening sequence).

iiZqHD · Nov 28th, 2012, 9:13:30 PM

LOL If were gonna talk about mating pokes....
Wailord and Wurmple
Thats all i got to say.

The Agonist · Nov 28th, 2012, 9:16:03 PM

Except they can't breed.

Hulavuta · Nov 28th, 2012, 9:19:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Mario With Lasers

Pikachu flies attaching balloons to its back (as seen on: Pokémon Yellow's opening sequence).

And surfs using a surfboard.

ShyGuy1221 · Nov 28th, 2012, 9:55:47 PM

I just had a thought on the whole Diglett using slash and crew thing. I recall the show stating that Diglett can pull its head underground at the speed of light (the fuq?). So who's to say it can't do that when attacking? It could pop up high enough to reveal any claw it may have down there, slash the opponent, and then go back to its normal position so quickly that you can't even see it happen.

TM13IceBeam · Nov 29th, 2012, 1:09:38 AM

i'm surprised how this topic can go two pages and not have any mention of the great ICE PUNCH WOOPER

Limstella · Nov 29th, 2012, 1:36:06 AM

Machamp with Fire Blast lol

**R_N** · Nov 29th, 2012, 1:54:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat TM13IceBeam

i'm surprised how this topic can go two pages and not have any mention of the great ICE PUNCH WOOPER

It has a tail it can sling around, presumably like a punch

I figure this is how it does Slam & Earthquake

celever · Nov 29th, 2012, 2:12:42 AM

Something I've had trouble getting my head around is some moves themselves, like amnesia. How do you make yourself forget things on purpose? And then all it does is lower speed in terms of negative! I mean, I understand how some pokemon do some attacks, but then some of the effects they have just seems... wrong. One thing though, surf just seems thrown around. I mean, there are some pokemon that I can imagine using it, but the pokemon I can't are:
Sentret
Furret
Lickitung
Dratini
Dragonair
Dragonite
OMFG WHY THE HELL DOES SNEASEL LEARN IT!?!?!?!?!?
Miltank
Zigzagoon
Linoone
Azurill
Lati@s
Garchomp
Munchlax
OMG! I was hoping sneasel was a glitch, but Weavile can too! XD
Herdier
Audino
Druddigon
Hydreigon

The pokemon like tyranitar and rhydon I'm ok with because surf is like a tsunami which the pokemon rides, tsunamis are made from earthquakes, and if something as heavy as a tyranitar landed right next to a tectonic plate then at least a small earthquake is pretty likely. Especially for snorlax and lickylicky.

Also, glad to see this thread is a success!

TM13IceBeam · Nov 29th, 2012, 5:25:32 AM

pretty sure dratini/dragonair/dragonite can swim, and the former two can walk on water in PMD so it's not a far stretch. azurill makes sense too since it evolves into marill, latis can hax for water, but stuff like lickitung... uh...

then we also get the baffling ones like focus punch shroomish

Someoneelse · Nov 29th, 2012, 6:24:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat TM13IceBeam

i'm surprised how this topic can go two pages and not have any mention of the great ICE PUNCH WOOPER

Don't forget it and its DynamicTail either.

Swamp-Rocket · Nov 29th, 2012, 7:06:18 AM

This thing can learn Mega Kick.

I know Dusclops has feet but it pretty much shows that they didn't really plan this one out too much.

I don't get this thing's entire movepool to be honest.

EDIT:

Primeape can learn Iron Tail, but that is only half the problem. In Pokepark or whatever it was called, Primeape is the tutor for Pikachu's Iron Tail, and he legitamately says that "he mastered the move without even having a tail" or something like that. Active trolling.

Organization Member XIV · Nov 29th, 2012, 7:38:28 AM

I would say Genesect getting Explosion, but it probably has like a self-destruct chip in its cannon or something.

KingGerbus · Nov 29th, 2012, 10:54:59 AM

Flying on a Pidgey?

Organization Member XIV · Nov 29th, 2012, 11:19:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat KingGerbus

Flying on a Pidgey?

Nintendo Logic.

Nov 28th, 2012, 7:59:50 PM	#30
MapleDoom Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 85 (´･ω･`)	Ah, Gamefreak shennanigans... NOMINEES Gastly w/ Elemental Punches Pikachu w/ Fly and Surf Dugtrio w/ Cut, Slash, Sucker Punch, and Aerial Ace Nidoking w/ Fire Blast, Ice Beam, and Thunderbolt IMO, why does Gyrados gets Bounce? I just don't know how it flys/jumps... XD __________________ I go by the name of "Not Lavos Spawn" on PS &Hugendugen: who is this Hugen Dugen? &Mikel: a skank who think she's pretty &Mikel: and is rather large

Nov 28th, 2012, 8:02:37 PM	#32
The Agonist Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 2,044 Fuck fairies.	iirc in the anime Gyarados is capable of flying (or at least, has been shown flying). __________________ # last.fm

Nov 28th, 2012, 9:13:30 PM	#37
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Nov 28th, 2012, 9:16:03 PM	#38
The Agonist Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 2,044 Fuck fairies.	Except they can't breed. __________________ # last.fm

Nov 28th, 2012, 9:55:47 PM	#40
ShyGuy1221 Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 329 California, United States	I just had a thought on the whole Diglett using slash and crew thing. I recall the show stating that Diglett can pull its head underground at the speed of light (the fuq?). So who's to say it can't do that when attacking? It could pop up high enough to reveal any claw it may have down there, slash the opponent, and then go back to its normal position so quickly that you can't even see it happen. __________________ My CaPASB Team

Nov 28th, 2012, 8:02:00 PM	#31
R_N Moderator Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,426	I figure Dugtrio got it due to actually having feet/claws but we just never see them

Nov 29th, 2012, 1:09:38 AM	#41
TM13IceBeam Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 3,249 stuck in the past, locked in the present, banned from the future	i'm surprised how this topic can go two pages and not have any mention of the great ICE PUNCH WOOPER __________________ Start of turn 24 Natu used Grass Knot! It's super effective! The foe's Corsola lost 31% of its health! Riolu ftw Amazing Rotom-S is amazing KAKUNA i'm dead, don't bother contacting me

Nov 29th, 2012, 1:36:06 AM	#42
Limstella Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 1 Spain	Machamp with Fire Blast lol

Nov 29th, 2012, 2:12:42 AM	#44
celever Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,143 Merry old England	Something I've had trouble getting my head around is some moves themselves, like amnesia. How do you make yourself forget things on purpose? And then all it does is lower speed in terms of negative! I mean, I understand how some pokemon do some attacks, but then some of the effects they have just seems... wrong. One thing though, surf just seems thrown around. I mean, there are some pokemon that I can imagine using it, but the pokemon I can't are: Sentret Furret Lickitung Dratini Dragonair Dragonite OMFG WHY THE HELL DOES SNEASEL LEARN IT!?!?!?!?!? Miltank Zigzagoon Linoone Azurill Lati@s Garchomp Munchlax OMG! I was hoping sneasel was a glitch, but Weavile can too! XD Herdier Audino Druddigon Hydreigon The pokemon like tyranitar and rhydon I'm ok with because surf is like a tsunami which the pokemon rides, tsunamis are made from earthquakes, and if something as heavy as a tyranitar landed right next to a tectonic plate then at least a small earthquake is pretty likely. Especially for snorlax and lickylicky. Also, glad to see this thread is a success! __________________ "Oh no, we're not lost it's just that we don't know where we are" - Brock 19:59 Darknesscrusher Just watch fucking porn man 19:59 Darknesscrusher Lesbo is better anyway

Nov 29th, 2012, 5:25:32 AM	#45
TM13IceBeam Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 3,249 stuck in the past, locked in the present, banned from the future	pretty sure dratini/dragonair/dragonite can swim, and the former two can walk on water in PMD so it's not a far stretch. azurill makes sense too since it evolves into marill, latis can hax for water, but stuff like lickitung... uh... then we also get the baffling ones like focus punch shroomish __________________ Start of turn 24 Natu used Grass Knot! It's super effective! The foe's Corsola lost 31% of its health! Riolu ftw Amazing Rotom-S is amazing KAKUNA i'm dead, don't bother contacting me

Nov 29th, 2012, 7:06:18 AM	#47
Swamp-Rocket Can't this town go one day without a riot? Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 606 South Carolina	This thing can learn Mega Kick. I know Dusclops has feet but it pretty much shows that they didn't really plan this one out too much. I don't get this thing's entire movepool to be honest. EDIT: Primeape can learn Iron Tail, but that is only half the problem. In Pokepark or whatever it was called, Primeape is the tutor for Pikachu's Iron Tail, and he legitamately says that "he mastered the move without even having a tail" or something like that. Active trolling. __________________ kawakimi: UR DUM kawakimi: N WEIRD Completed Analyses: 18 In Progress: 2

Nov 29th, 2012, 7:38:28 AM	#48
Organization Member XIV Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 625 On top of a giant dragon's back.	I *would* say Genesect getting Explosion, but it probably has like a self-destruct chip in its cannon or something. __________________ Bearkiller on PS, and bearhugger on IRC. I play League of Legends, so there's that. Also free Genesect plz. Me in real life.

Nov 29th, 2012, 10:54:59 AM	#49
KingGerbus Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 9	Flying on a Pidgey? __________________ DEEEEEEEEEEEEEAUGH