5th Gen PRNG Help / Info - RNG Reporter 9.96.5, PPRNG 1.15.0 (Request in first post) - Page 693

Cereza · Nov 29th, 2012, 8:05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Misdreavus

For that matter, aside from the lack of a seconds hand on the DSi/DSi XL/3DS/3DS XL menu clock necessitating an external timer, is the addition of more possible Timer0 values the only thing that makes it any easier to hit a seed on 1 model of DS than another?

pretty much

kiddu · Nov 29th, 2012, 8:08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Champloo

I'm assuming this would be hard to predict as the phenomenons don't always occur at specific steps? Or should I just keep resetting to hope I encounter a phenomenon within the 128 steps?

Well, technically, it advances once every 128 steps, but the step counter for the current 128 steps gets carried over with your save. So I'd strongly suggest that, when searching for a seed, you assume that you'll be advancing the IV frame that way at least once, and try to walk exactly 128 (or 256 if you need to) steps.

Champloo · Nov 29th, 2012, 8:51:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat kiddu

Well, technically, it advances once every 128 steps, but the step counter for the current 128 steps gets carried over with your save. So I'd strongly suggest that, when searching for a seed, you assume that you'll be advancing the IV frame that way at least once, and try to walk exactly 128 (or 256 if you need to) steps.

So just to clarify, I walk to said cave and it took me 50 steps to get there and save. So when I set the date and get back into the game the counter for the 128 steps will start from 50 and not back from 0? Do we know when the counter is reset, or where it's at at any given time? Since I'll be walking MOST DEFINITELY would it just be a better idea to stick with advancing the PIDRNG this way or should I bring Chatot just in case? Although I don't see how that would work since as soon as you walk into the phenomenon you initiate the battle. Wow this seems a lot harder than I thought it would be.

JRank · Nov 29th, 2012, 9:16:37 PM

I should've known better than to post so close to the bottom with a question that I think very few will be able to answer.

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Originally Posted by Fat JRank

I downloaded RNG Reporter on a new computer last night, entered in my profile information, and got this message. Today I deleted the RNG .zip file, re-downloaded, and did the same thing. Same error message. What is the problem/how can I fix it?

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edit: and the embedding apparently doesn't work, here is the link http://imgur.com/jcJ39

edit 2: fixed and in hide tags

Valkart · Nov 29th, 2012, 9:33:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Valkart

Hmm, abusing the ID - SID in BW2 use the same mechanic as BW? Thanks in advance.

Anyone please? I tried to do it like I did in White but I couldn't get the desired ID.

**Stellar** · Nov 29th, 2012, 9:40:52 PM

Yes, it is the exact same. I just RNG'd my ID about twenty minutes ago using the same exact process as I did in BW. You need to account for the additional Timer0 values, though.

kiddu · Nov 29th, 2012, 10:00:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Champloo

So just to clarify, I walk to said cave and it took me 50 steps to get there and save. So when I set the date and get back into the game the counter for the 128 steps will start from 50 and not back from 0?

No. You're not counting where it was before you took those 50 steps.

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Do we know when the counter is reset, or where it's at at any given time?

The only "reset" or way to know where it is (on a retail cart, anyway) is when the advancement happens and it starts counting another 128, which of course you can't reasonably find short of testing every step until you find the IV frame advanced. That's why we tell people to walk exactly 128 steps: it's the only way to know for sure how many times you've advanced the IV frame short of getting into your battle.

...Actually, that's why you should normally stick to IV frames of 1: because advancing the IV frame just isn't worth it when there's stuff like this to deal with, especially when you have the PIDRNG to advance, too, and you can get the same results without it.

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Since I'll be walking MOST DEFINITELY would it just be a better idea to stick with advancing the PIDRNG this way or should I bring Chatot just in case? Although I don't see how that would work since as soon as you walk into the phenomenon you initiate the battle. Wow this seems a lot harder than I thought it would be.

Bring a Chatot and treat the steps like a bunch of moving NPCs: make the same number of turns & steps, go for your target, find your Shifted Starting Frame, and adjust with Chatot.

Mo96 · Nov 30th, 2012, 12:11:27 AM

[QUOTE=Cereza;4488062]You can rng it from the e4, but only for shininess and nature. If you want to rng ivs, then no.
Basically, once it's roaming everything is set. The the only thing you can do is faint it and rng it from the e4, but you won't be able to rng ivs.

What does rng it from the e4 mean? Besides, I thought Thundurus does not appear again if it is fainted.

BlakDragon · Nov 30th, 2012, 2:14:42 AM

@Mo96, if you kill Thundurus, you can make it respawn by defeating the Elite 4 & Champion again.

Mo96 · Nov 30th, 2012, 6:58:21 AM

I want to RNG a flawless haxorus with mold breaker but I do not know how to determine if mold breaker is ability0 or ability1. Please help. I am using the latest RNG Reporter.

Misdreavus · Nov 30th, 2012, 7:18:47 AM

How many different Timer0 values is it typical for a specific cart to hit on each of the different models of DS?

Xeno598 · Nov 30th, 2012, 7:47:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Mo96

I want to RNG a flawless haxorus with mold breaker but I do not know how to determine if mold breaker is ability0 or ability1. Please help. I am using the latest RNG Reporter.

Mold Breaker is Ability 1.

The Pokedex-IV checker option in Reporter showcases A0 and A1 for each Pokemon, so use that as a reference.

Mo96 · Nov 30th, 2012, 8:12:22 AM

Is it possible to RNG a flawless ditto in Giant chasm ( Plains)? You can not use sweet scent there and I do not really know any other way of RNGing wild pokemon :(
The encouter slots are 3 and 6 for a ditto in B1, right?

Cereza · Nov 30th, 2012, 8:24:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat voodoo pimp

You can get rid of the fog to be able to Sweet Scent. Save inside the Giant Chasm, change the month to a different season, load the game, battle something. After the battle, the fog will be gone, so you can save again and then RNG it like any other wild encounter. Note that this works for all forms of weather, so you could use it to get rid of the sandstorm in the desert for instance.

Gahagan · Nov 30th, 2012, 10:30:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat JRank

I should've known better than to post so close to the bottom with a question that I think very few will be able to answer.

Right click -> Run as admin is about all I can think of.

If that doesn't work, install it somewhere else. Like in your My Documents folder, or on the desktop.

Mo96 · Nov 30th, 2012, 10:31:47 AM

I always get a lvl 53 metang or a lvl 52 piloswine instead of the ditto to I am trying to RNG. I checked 3 and 6 only for the encounter slots and am pretty sure I am hitting my target time since I am using Eontimer. Would appreciate any help/.

Cereza · Nov 30th, 2012, 11:08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Mo96

I always get a lvl 53 metang or a lvl 52 piloswine instead of the ditto to I am trying to RNG. I checked 3 and 6 only for the encounter slots and am pretty sure I am hitting my target time since I am using Eontimer. Would appreciate any help/.

You're probably not advancing the PID, which controls the encounter slots. Paste the seed in the main page, calculate your initial PID frame, look for a frame that has the encounter slots for ditto, advance discordantly.

Mo96 · Nov 30th, 2012, 12:26:04 PM

If I want to RNG a shiny pokemon do I use the time finder or the main page to find a seed?
Another question. On the time finder it says nearby shiny and frame. Are they not the same thing?
Another question. What is the fastest way to hit a shiny seed of frame 8000?

kiddu · Nov 30th, 2012, 12:39:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Mo96

If I want to RNG a shiny pokemon do I use the time finder or the main page to find a seed?

Time Finder. You can't even use the main page to find a seed in the first place.

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Originally Posted by Fat Mo96

Another question. On the time finder it says nearby shiny and frame. Are they not the same thing?

Click the Nearby Shiny box in Time Finder and it'll ask you how far you want to advance for it. No, they're not the same as IV frames, as you've already been told.

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Originally Posted by Fat Mo96

Another question. What is the fastest way to hit a shiny seed of frame 8000?

...By not being insane/idiotic enough to use a seed with a frame that ridiculously high.

GoldChico · Nov 30th, 2012, 12:45:10 PM

Is there a list of the routes and their respective WNPCs in BW2? I wanted to know to RNG Terrakion, Virizion, Azelf, Cresselia and Uxie.

The Agonist · Nov 30th, 2012, 1:57:42 PM

Out of those five, Uxie and Terrakion have WNPCs (Seven and one, respectively).

Degrat · Nov 30th, 2012, 3:45:07 PM

Is there anyone that can help me acquire my SID. It seems that my ISP is blocking access to Pokecheck and I do not have AR.

Xeno598 · Nov 30th, 2012, 4:27:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Degrat

Is there anyone that can help me acquire my SID. It seems that my ISP is blocking access to Pokecheck and I do not have AR.

I can help in about an hour or two. Catch something from your game that you don't mind parting with and PM/VM me.

Edit: Done
http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=2825430

radishes · Nov 30th, 2012, 5:49:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Valkart

Anyone please? I tried to do it like I did in White but I couldn't get the desired ID.

ID/SID abuse is pretty much the same as it is in White, so you probably just missed your timer0. You'll have to try a few times to find the starting frame of your seed, and it'll probably take you multiple tries after that to re-hit the seed and advance properly.

Mo96 · Dec 1st, 2012, 12:25:48 AM

How can I check the legitimacy of a Pokemon? Another question.
Is cloning an illicit way of getting multiple copies of a pokemon and will it affect the game/console in any way?
Thanks in advance.

Nov 30th, 2012, 2:14:42 AM	#17309
BlakDragon Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 58 Virginia, USA	@Mo96, if you kill Thundurus, you can make it respawn by defeating the Elite 4 & Champion again. __________________ brb getting a better avatar

Nov 30th, 2012, 7:18:47 AM	#17311
Misdreavus Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,210 Orlando, FL	How many different Timer0 values is it typical for a specific cart to hit on each of the different models of DS? __________________ My other Rotom is a washing machine.

Nov 30th, 2012, 12:45:10 PM	#17320
GoldChico Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 55	Is there a list of the routes and their respective WNPCs in BW2? I wanted to know to RNG Terrakion, Virizion, Azelf, Cresselia and Uxie. __________________ HeartGold: 4126-0278-1794 Japanese White: 1420-2449-6985

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The Agonist Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 2,008 Reflecting ourselves in the blood of all the beings we slay.	Out of those five, Uxie and Terrakion have WNPCs (Seven and one, respectively). __________________ #

Nov 29th, 2012, 9:40:52 PM	#17306
Stellar Moderator Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,264	Yes, it is the exact same. I just RNG'd my ID about twenty minutes ago using the same exact process as I did in BW. You need to account for the additional Timer0 values, though.

Nov 30th, 2012, 12:11:27 AM	#17308
Mo96 Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 102	[QUOTE=Cereza;4488062]You can rng it from the e4, but only for shininess and nature. If you want to rng ivs, then no. Basically, once it's roaming everything is set. The the only thing you can do is faint it and rng it from the e4, but you won't be able to rng ivs. What does rng it from the e4 mean? Besides, I thought Thundurus does not appear again if it is fainted.

Nov 30th, 2012, 6:58:21 AM	#17310
Mo96 Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 102	I want to RNG a flawless haxorus with mold breaker but I do not know how to determine if mold breaker is ability0 or ability1. Please help. I am using the latest RNG Reporter.

Nov 30th, 2012, 8:12:22 AM	#17313
Mo96 Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 102	Is it possible to RNG a flawless ditto in Giant chasm ( Plains)? You can not use sweet scent there and I do not really know any other way of RNGing wild pokemon :( The encouter slots are 3 and 6 for a ditto in B1, right?

Nov 30th, 2012, 10:31:47 AM	#17316
Mo96 Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 102	I always get a lvl 53 metang or a lvl 52 piloswine instead of the ditto to I am trying to RNG. I checked 3 and 6 only for the encounter slots and am pretty sure I am hitting my target time since I am using Eontimer. Would appreciate any help/.

Nov 30th, 2012, 12:26:04 PM	#17318
Mo96 Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 102	If I want to RNG a shiny pokemon do I use the time finder or the main page to find a seed? Another question. On the time finder it says nearby shiny and frame. Are they not the same thing? Another question. What is the fastest way to hit a shiny seed of frame 8000?

Nov 30th, 2012, 3:45:07 PM	#17322
Degrat Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 3	Is there anyone that can help me acquire my SID. It seems that my ISP is blocking access to Pokecheck and I do not have AR.

Dec 1st, 2012, 12:25:48 AM	#17325
Mo96 Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 102	How can I check the legitimacy of a Pokemon? Another question. Is cloning an illicit way of getting multiple copies of a pokemon and will it affect the game/console in any way? Thanks in advance.