The Single Battle Metagame (GBU) - Page 10

**Taylor** · Dec 15th, 2011, 4:54:35 AM

I've recently been rather successful leading with Focus Sash Tyranitar because it gives you the option to strike back with either Crunch/Superpower/Ice Beam/Flamethrower, and chances are with Sand in tact, you're usually in the drivers' seat within the first two turns. Considering you're generally guaranteed to dish out an attack and set up Sand Stream twice (if you opt to switch out!), a Naive nature with max Speed really helps you take advantage of the game.

I tend to carry Thundurus/Excadrill/Garchomp/Kingdra/Scizor with that particular Tyranitar spread. I've been eagar to test competitively viable items to see which items work best with which Pokemon. I continue to adjust each set through means of how I wish to abuse my Life Orb, for example, to its fullest without wishing I dedicated it to a different member of my team.

I always seem to regret selecting one item for another every five battles or so because the GBU metagame has all kinds of threats out there, and it is really difficult to say your team is prepared for the entire world.

Redtype · Dec 15th, 2011, 3:37:00 PM

Has anyone else seen this set?

Skarmory @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: max HP? / max SpDef?
Nature: Careful (?)
~ Taunt
~ Curse
~ Roost
~ Aerial Ace / Brave Bird

It really caught me off guard one day. I lost due to stupidly letting my Slowbro die, and only having SubSD Garchomp and full physical Tyranitar in the other two slots.

Tenodera · Dec 15th, 2011, 8:11:03 PM

^Skarmory gets Curse??? :O
I've seen plenty of Rocky Helmet Skarm, but never that.

~Golden Emp · Dec 21st, 2011, 6:44:25 PM

Breed Farfetch'd with Torkoal/Bibarel and get Curse, then breed the Male Farfetch'd offspring with a female Skarmory. The final offspring will get Curse.

I was shocked to find out Farfetch'd can breed with both torkoal and bibarel O.o

~~BattleStar~~ · Dec 26th, 2011, 10:06:58 PM

Played about 10 GBU battles today. 1 or 2 disconnectors.
I am using this new team ( will post later) that been giving me a lot of success thanks to MixApe lead I am using.

Also another thing that stood out to me was when I was beating this 1000+ win Japanese player on just one move before the match was ending and he loss was he just disconnects. Not as great as beating him completely but still better that disconnectors ;D

~~BattleStar~~ · Jan 14th, 2012, 3:29:40 PM

An obvious bump. However here is my current team I been using. I found it to be really fun to use. It is highly offensive. but Garchomp is able to weather hits easily on switch it. The first two sets of it I love and are flawless. The third, Garchomp needs work so I would appreciate suggestions on a new set.

Infernape (M) @ Life Orb
Trait: Blaze
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SAtk / 252 Spd
Naive Nature (+Spd, -SDef)
- Overheat
- Fake Out
- Close Combat
- U-turn

This makes such an awesome lead. Fake out is used helps break sturdy and sashes. I either choose to sweep (which happens a lot) or just U-Turn out. U-Turn goes well because there is a lot of Psychics attacks in GBU I seen. So I just switch in to.....

Hydreigon (M) @ Choice Specs
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Dragon Pulse
- Dark Pulse
- Flamethrower
- Surf

Garchomp (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Sand Veil
EVs: 156 HP / 196 Atk / 156 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Outrage
- Fire Fang
- Crunch
- Earthquake

voidzone · Feb 21st, 2012, 7:27:14 AM

I'd like to share my current team I use at the GBU as well.

Mienshao@Life-Orb
Trait:Regenerator
Nature:Adamant
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Att / 252 Spe

Fake Out
U-Turn
Hi Jump Kick
Stone Edge

Mienshao is my preferred lead, as it can break sashes with fake out,
scout with u-turn and hit really hard with kick and edge.
Regenerator helps with the LO-damage and does well in conjuction
with U-Turn switches.

Metagross@Choice Band
Trait: Clear Body
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Att / 4 Def

Bullet Punch
Meteor Mash
Earthquake
Zen Headbutt

CBGross is powerful force, with lots of attack, a stabbed prio move and good
coverage. It can switch easily into most moves aimed at mienshao and get
away relatively unharmed.

Chandelure@Expert Belt
Trait: Flash Fire
Nature: Timid
EVs: 4 Hp / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

Flamethrower
Shadow Ball
Energy Ball
Substitute

I found sub + 3 attacking moves pretty useful in the GBU, Chandelure often
forces a switch and can safely put a sub up and wreck havoc from behind.

Lorenz · Jun 2nd, 2012, 9:14:44 AM

Left the game about 6 months ago because I got too wrapped up in Marvel and SF and my wireless router crapped out. Came back because I finally have a viable wifi spot that I can ladder some. What do I get? Stone Edge misses so a D/C, Lum stops Spore Breloom so a D/C, stop Stallrein with Taunt so a D/C, and then there's all the sweeps that people D/C. Seriously why'd I come back...

Baz Anderson · Jun 2nd, 2012, 3:27:28 PM

I've not done Singles for a long time now... had a lot more fun doing Doubles.

Lorenz · Jun 3rd, 2012, 12:44:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Baz Anderson

I've not done Singles for a long time now... had a lot more fun doing Doubles.

Maybe it's just me but a lot of random pokes are carrying HP Fire. I guess as expected I'm not seeing too many Ferrothorn or Scizor either. I use Scizor and it's to the point I'm almost coming in with one less mon because the most random stuff is OHKOing Scizor now. Took every fiber of my being NOT to D/C on paraflinch Togekiss also...

Baz Anderson · Jun 10th, 2012, 5:41:38 PM

I'm wondering how the new Genie forms will work on the wi-fi, considering they are exclusive to Back & White 2...

Either they will be banned, or it will be impossible for B&W 2 games to battle B&W games.

The Knights of Wario Land · Jun 15th, 2012, 9:13:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Baz Anderson

I'm wondering how the new Genie forms will work on the wi-fi, considering they are exclusive to Back & White 2...

Either they will be banned, or it will be impossible for B&W 2 games to battle B&W games.

You're probably right with the former, they'll probably treat them like the Rotom Formes back in Platinum.

Baz Anderson · Jun 21st, 2012, 7:33:01 AM

From Serebii about B/W 2:

"...new feature of the Random Matchup and Tournaments prevents you from battling for a while if you disconnect on your opponent."

d.hgss · Jun 21st, 2012, 9:53:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Baz Anderson

From Serebii about B/W 2:

"...new feature of the Random Matchup and Tournaments prevents you from battling for a while if you disconnect on your opponent."

O.o

Ekaru · Jun 22nd, 2012, 5:48:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Baz Anderson

From Serebii about B/W 2:

"...new feature of the Random Matchup and Tournaments prevents you from battling for a while if you disconnect on your opponent."

#1 reason I'm getting BW2, really.

EDIT: Actually, not really if the game matches you up against BW1 opponents who don't have that penalty. Does the game match you up against BW1 opponents? 'Cuz that would be annoying if BW2 players got penalized for D/Cing while BW1 opponents do not.

Lorenz · Jun 23rd, 2012, 2:26:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Baz Anderson

From Serebii about B/W 2:

"...new feature of the Random Matchup and Tournaments prevents you from battling for a while if you disconnect on your opponent."

Doth mine eyes deceive me? Hellz yes. About damn time we got something like this. I might get back into pokemon seriously now.

Something else I'd like to see is a kind of "Last trainers played" list on GBU somehow. Like on the website or something. Something that you can see who you played recently and send them a message. Like hate mail for rage quitting. Or a sportsmanlike "GG" or compliments on an awesome game or strategy.

Reikai · Jun 27th, 2012, 2:15:32 AM

Been a while since I posted... since release of BW here in Japan I think.

Anyway, with BW2, I've been playing alot of random battles now.

The "punishment" for disconnecting is a 1 hr wait time before you can battle again.

Additionally, I'd like to point out that you can now get BP in game for winning random matches.

Lorenz · Jul 5th, 2012, 1:21:05 PM

Don't know if this has been brought up yet. It seems like the Therian forms of the genies will appear as the regular forms of their genie counterparts. Took me by surprise when a Landorus hit me with Intimidate.

Froste · Aug 24th, 2012, 5:23:06 PM

I use a sandstorm team in gbu, and its pretty nice, i got 15 wins in, like 1/2 hours of play (including rage quits) 1st, it breaks focus sash. 2nd, Dory ROCKS 3rd, Garchomp ROCKS

My team: TTar
Terakion
Dory
Garchomp
Reuniclus
Ferrothorn

Usually send in TTar, dory, and reuniclus ( Rooneyclus :D).

That basically pwns everybody, TTar as a lead, with crunch / flamethrower / ice beam / stone edge
Reuniclus with life orb Trick room / focus blast / shadow ball / psychic
Dory with swords dance, eq, rock slide, x-sizor and swords dance

And the opponents usually arent very good, saw Marowak / Braviary / Musharna and lots of other WEIRD stuff...

CoolStoryBrobat · Sep 5th, 2012, 3:32:45 PM

Ha, I both love and hate GBU to death sometimes. Love it because at times I've pulled off some insane wins with things I wasn't ready to expect have work in my favor.

Hate it, because often times some of my losses go to picking the wrong 3 to go into battle with...Not only that but that feeling when I see almost always the same 30 Pokemon in different teams just sort of..kills originality, you know? I mean, I understand why they're ranked higher and why people would use them, but I dunno. Seeing stuff whored out constantly feels like I'm facing the same person over and over again. Also the D/Cs. I'm looking forward to getting Black 2, according to what was posted above about it.

On another note, I love how people can really find some extremely inconvenient sets to use with overly-used Pokemon on GBU. For instance, I once faced a Tyranitar with my Gurdurr. I got in a Bulk Up, I forget what move it had used. The next turn I Drain Punch, only to find it's a sashed TTar with Counter. :\ Stuff like that, lol

Professor Shroomish · Sep 6th, 2012, 4:43:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Redtype

Has anyone else seen this set?

Skarmory @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: max HP? / max SpDef?
Nature: Careful (?)
~ Taunt
~ Curse
~ Roost
~ Aerial Ace / Brave Bird

It really caught me off guard one day. I lost due to stupidly letting my Slowbro die, and only having SubSD Garchomp and full physical Tyranitar in the other two slots.

Ah, I remember this guy. He showed up immediately after I made my DD Moxie Salamence forget Fire Blast for Fire Fang.

Lorenz · Sep 24th, 2012, 6:15:24 PM

So has anyone been able to check out how effective that disconnection penalty for B/W2 is? I know the game isn't out in America yet but I figure there may have been some word from people who imported it.

Dark Arceus · Sep 24th, 2012, 6:52:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Lorenz

So has anyone been able to check out how effective that disconnection penalty for B/W2 is? I know the game isn't out in America yet but I figure there may have been some word from people who imported it.

http://nuggetbridge.com/articles/how...-that-matters/

Read the article near the bottom where it mentions black and white 2. And if your too lazy to read I can summarize. If a player dc's both are penalized with a 1hr of no battling, and if a router is reset by someone then the penalty is not even activated (Same with if someone has lousy internet and randomly dc's on accident) (I believe it mentioned in that article, and numerous tests I believe have proven this).

Lorenz · Sep 26th, 2012, 5:45:15 PM

To me, that doesn't sound like it'll help. In a way it could make the ragequitting problem worse. If both players are penalized I can guarantee we're gonna see more rage-quits coming from a notion of "Screw this guy! How dare he beat me! Let me D/C so he can't play for an hour!". Looks like I'm sticking to free mode B/W2.

BlankZero · Dec 1st, 2012, 5:48:50 PM

So I have about a week til it happens, but there's a small unofficial tournament going on at my local game store. 3v3 sets with basic rules. What I'd like to know is, what is a good team I can put together quickly and stomp faces with?

Dec 15th, 2011, 3:37:00 PM	#227
Redtype Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 742 Caution - Sawsbucks on road	Has anyone else seen this set? Skarmory @ Rocky Helmet Ability: Sturdy EVs: max HP? / max SpDef? Nature: Careful (?) ~ Taunt ~ Curse ~ Roost ~ Aerial Ace / Brave Bird It really caught me off guard one day. I lost due to stupidly letting my Slowbro die, and only having SubSD Garchomp and full physical Tyranitar in the other two slots. __________________ Trading is a serious business. White FC: 1678 3054 7710 SoulSilver FC: 2622 5126 4730

Dec 15th, 2011, 8:11:03 PM	#228
Tenodera Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 390 Ambassador for the Most High.	^Skarmory gets Curse??? :O I've seen plenty of Rocky Helmet Skarm, but never that. __________________ John 14:6 REGIGIGAS is so CUTE. My wifi occasionally acts up, but that's the only reason you'll see me disconnect. ;)

Dec 21st, 2011, 6:44:25 PM	#229
~Golden Emp Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 560 México D.F.	Breed Farfetch'd with Torkoal/Bibarel and get Curse, then breed the Male Farfetch'd offspring with a female Skarmory. The final offspring will get Curse. I was shocked to find out Farfetch'd can breed with both torkoal and bibarel O.o __________________ I'm loving college. I really miss VGC.

Jan 14th, 2012, 3:29:40 PM	#231
~~BattleStar~~ Banned deucer. Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 629 In a desert far away.	An obvious bump. However here is my current team I been using. I found it to be really fun to use. It is highly offensive. but Garchomp is able to weather hits easily on switch it. The first two sets of it I love and are flawless. The third, Garchomp needs work so I would appreciate suggestions on a new set. Infernape (M) @ Life Orb Trait: Blaze EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SAtk / 252 Spd Naive Nature (+Spd, -SDef) - Overheat - Fake Out - Close Combat - U-turn This makes such an awesome lead. Fake out is used helps break sturdy and sashes. I either choose to sweep (which happens a lot) or just U-Turn out. U-Turn goes well because there is a lot of Psychics attacks in GBU I seen. So I just switch in to..... Hydreigon (M) @ Choice Specs Trait: Levitate EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk) - Dragon Pulse - Dark Pulse - Flamethrower - Surf Garchomp (M) @ Choice Band Trait: Sand Veil EVs: 156 HP / 196 Atk / 156 Spd Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk) - Outrage - Fire Fang - Crunch - Earthquake Last edited by Jumpman16; Feb 21st, 2012 at 3:37:42 PM. Reason: pretty sure you meant cb on chomp

Jun 2nd, 2012, 9:14:44 AM	#233
Lorenz Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 157 The Batcave	Left the game about 6 months ago because I got too wrapped up in Marvel and SF and my wireless router crapped out. Came back because I finally have a viable wifi spot that I can ladder some. What do I get? Stone Edge misses so a D/C, Lum stops Spore Breloom so a D/C, stop Stallrein with Taunt so a D/C, and then there's all the sweeps that people D/C. Seriously why'd I come back... __________________ I'm going to Shaboom Shaboom's!!!!!!!!!

Dec 15th, 2011, 4:54:35 AM	#226
Taylor no.... no i do not look like psyduck Moderator Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,990 play?	I've recently been rather successful leading with Focus Sash Tyranitar because it gives you the option to strike back with either Crunch/Superpower/Ice Beam/Flamethrower, and chances are with Sand in tact, you're usually in the drivers' seat within the first two turns. Considering you're generally guaranteed to dish out an attack and set up Sand Stream twice (if you opt to switch out!), a Naive nature with max Speed really helps you take advantage of the game. I tend to carry Thundurus/Excadrill/Garchomp/Kingdra/Scizor with that particular Tyranitar spread. I've been eagar to test competitively viable items to see which items work best with which Pokemon. I continue to adjust each set through means of how I wish to abuse my Life Orb, for example, to its fullest without wishing I dedicated it to a different member of my team. I always seem to regret selecting one item for another every five battles or so because the GBU metagame has all kinds of threats out there, and it is really difficult to say your team is prepared for the entire world.

Dec 26th, 2011, 10:06:58 PM	#230
~~BattleStar~~ Banned deucer. Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 629 In a desert far away.	Played about 10 GBU battles today. 1 or 2 disconnectors. I am using this new team ( will post later) that been giving me a lot of success thanks to MixApe lead I am using. Also another thing that stood out to me was when I was beating this 1000+ win Japanese player on just one move before the match was ending and he loss was he just disconnects. Not as great as beating him completely but still better that disconnectors ;D

Feb 21st, 2012, 7:27:14 AM	#232
voidzone Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 42	I'd like to share my current team I use at the GBU as well. Mienshao@Life-Orb Trait:Regenerator Nature:Adamant EVs: 4 HP / 252 Att / 252 Spe Fake Out U-Turn Hi Jump Kick Stone Edge Mienshao is my preferred lead, as it can break sashes with fake out, scout with u-turn and hit really hard with kick and edge. Regenerator helps with the LO-damage and does well in conjuction with U-Turn switches. Metagross@Choice Band Trait: Clear Body Nature: Adamant EVs: 252 HP / 252 Att / 4 Def Bullet Punch Meteor Mash Earthquake Zen Headbutt CBGross is powerful force, with lots of attack, a stabbed prio move and good coverage. It can switch easily into most moves aimed at mienshao and get away relatively unharmed. Chandelure@Expert Belt Trait: Flash Fire Nature: Timid EVs: 4 Hp / 252 SpA / 252 Spe Flamethrower Shadow Ball Energy Ball Substitute I found sub + 3 attacking moves pretty useful in the GBU, Chandelure often forces a switch and can safely put a sub up and wreck havoc from behind.

Jun 2nd, 2012, 3:27:28 PM	#234
Baz Anderson Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 271 Lincoln, England	I've not done Singles for a long time now... had a lot more fun doing Doubles.

Jun 10th, 2012, 5:41:38 PM	#236
Baz Anderson Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 271 Lincoln, England	I'm wondering how the new Genie forms will work on the wi-fi, considering they are exclusive to Back & White 2... Either they will be banned, or it will be impossible for B&W 2 games to battle B&W games.

Jun 21st, 2012, 7:33:01 AM	#238
Baz Anderson Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 271 Lincoln, England	From Serebii about B/W 2: "...new feature of the Random Matchup and Tournaments prevents you from battling for a while if you disconnect on your opponent."

Jun 27th, 2012, 2:15:32 AM	#242
Reikai Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 23	Been a while since I posted... since release of BW here in Japan I think. Anyway, with BW2, I've been playing alot of random battles now. The "punishment" for disconnecting is a 1 hr wait time before you can battle again. Additionally, I'd like to point out that you can now get BP in game for winning random matches.

Jul 5th, 2012, 1:21:05 PM	#243
Lorenz Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 157 The Batcave	Don't know if this has been brought up yet. It seems like the Therian forms of the genies will appear as the regular forms of their genie counterparts. Took me by surprise when a Landorus hit me with Intimidate. __________________ I'm going to Shaboom Shaboom's!!!!!!!!!

Aug 24th, 2012, 5:23:06 PM	#244
Froste Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 6 Portugal	I use a sandstorm team in gbu, and its pretty nice, i got 15 wins in, like 1/2 hours of play (including rage quits) 1st, it breaks focus sash. 2nd, Dory ROCKS 3rd, Garchomp ROCKS My team: TTar Terakion Dory Garchomp Reuniclus Ferrothorn Usually send in TTar, dory, and reuniclus ( Rooneyclus :D). That basically pwns everybody, TTar as a lead, with crunch / flamethrower / ice beam / stone edge Reuniclus with life orb Trick room / focus blast / shadow ball / psychic Dory with swords dance, eq, rock slide, x-sizor and swords dance And the opponents usually arent very good, saw Marowak / Braviary / Musharna and lots of other WEIRD stuff...

Sep 5th, 2012, 3:32:45 PM	#245
CoolStoryBrobat Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 78 Pittsburgh, PA	Ha, I both love and hate GBU to death sometimes. Love it because at times I've pulled off some insane wins with things I wasn't ready to expect have work in my favor. Hate it, because often times some of my losses go to picking the wrong 3 to go into battle with...Not only that but that feeling when I see almost always the same 30 Pokemon in different teams just sort of..kills originality, you know? I mean, I understand why they're ranked higher and why people would use them, but I dunno. Seeing stuff whored out constantly feels like I'm facing the same person over and over again. Also the D/Cs. I'm looking forward to getting Black 2, according to what was posted above about it. On another note, I love how people can really find some extremely inconvenient sets to use with overly-used Pokemon on GBU. For instance, I once faced a Tyranitar with my Gurdurr. I got in a Bulk Up, I forget what move it had used. The next turn I Drain Punch, only to find it's a sashed TTar with Counter. :\ Stuff like that, lol

Sep 24th, 2012, 6:15:24 PM	#247
Lorenz Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 157 The Batcave	So has anyone been able to check out how effective that disconnection penalty for B/W2 is? I know the game isn't out in America yet but I figure there may have been some word from people who imported it. __________________ I'm going to Shaboom Shaboom's!!!!!!!!!

Sep 26th, 2012, 5:45:15 PM	#249
Lorenz Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 157 The Batcave	To me, that doesn't sound like it'll help. In a way it could make the ragequitting problem worse. If both players are penalized I can guarantee we're gonna see more rage-quits coming from a notion of "Screw this guy! How dare he beat me! Let me D/C so he can't play for an hour!". Looks like I'm sticking to free mode B/W2. __________________ I'm going to Shaboom Shaboom's!!!!!!!!!

Dec 1st, 2012, 5:48:50 PM	#250
BlankZero Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 557 East Coast, USA	So I have about a week til it happens, but there's a small unofficial tournament going on at my local game store. 3v3 sets with basic rules. What I'd like to know is, what is a good team I can put together quickly and stomp faces with? __________________ A forum post should be like a skirt; long enough to cover the important bits, yet short enough to keep things interesting. Most posts on Smogon are like Pantsuits.