5th Gen PRNG Help / Info - RNG Reporter 9.96.5, PPRNG 1.15.0 (Request in first post) - Page 696

The Agonist · Dec 2nd, 2012, 12:54:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Mo96

So I managed to RNG a shiny timid flawless deino hatchling. However, its hidden power turned out to be ghost instead of dragon. Not that it matters but doesn't this mean that the time finder miscalculated something? Plus, I believe I hit my seed but got this IV range 31/24/31/31/30/31 instead of this one 31/24/31/31/31/31. Again it doesn't make a difference but... Is there some problem with my version (latest btw) or could I have made a mistake?

Did you input the correct IVs for the parents?

Mo96 · Dec 2nd, 2012, 1:12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat The Agonist

Did you input the correct IVs for the parents?

I am not really sure, no.

Mo96 · Dec 2nd, 2012, 1:13:26 PM

Does anyone know where I can find a guide for RNGing pokemon found in ruslting grass or swirling dust. I want to RNG a flawless drilbur/excadrill.

kiddu · Dec 2nd, 2012, 1:27:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat RNGer Aaron

That's strange, when I calculate the seed C643C8E32E33C473, the Initial PIDRNG Frame is always 56, even with the memory link box checked. Even so, it's strange that it's treated like you have used memory link on your games, I haven't had this occur personally yet, so it's likely something specific to your games.

Actually, I wasn't referring to the initial frame offsets on that, but to the extra PID advancement that supposedly vanishes after Memory Linking, which'd explain the results funeral_cake and I were getting. That other seed (which was a different seed, of course) having the very different initial frame is just what confirmed it for me. Most seeds I've run show the same initial frame either way, but that one didn't, and is what tipped me off to check.

I have two games. It happens on both. Neither have even connected to a BW1 game through Union Room, nor Dream World. They haven't even connected to each other. Either something very weird is going on, or there's more to the RNG on this than has been discovered thus far.

Cipher Admin Lovrina · Dec 2nd, 2012, 1:32:03 PM

Does someone have a list of npcless locations in BW2? I know Castelia Park is one of them and Route 23 as well.

The Agonist · Dec 2nd, 2012, 1:36:40 PM

Here's a partial list.

Mo96 · Dec 2nd, 2012, 1:49:09 PM

I have to find a cave spot first, save and then try RNging, right?

Xeno598 · Dec 2nd, 2012, 1:52:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Mo96

I have to find a cave spot first, save and then try RNging, right?

Dust clouds will disappear once you turn your game off. You'll have to compensate for it with steps.

The Agonist · Dec 2nd, 2012, 1:53:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Mo96

I have to find a cave spot first, save and then try RNging, right?

No. You have to walk around until you find a dust spot, then RNG it from there.

Cipher Admin Lovrina · Dec 2nd, 2012, 2:45:56 PM

Does adding Challenge Mode to White 2 change your parameters at all or cause your frames to change?

The Agonist · Dec 2nd, 2012, 2:50:39 PM

It doesn't change anything.

funeral_cake · Dec 2nd, 2012, 3:38:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat kiddu

If you read the following posts, you'll see that we already figured that out. I'm pretty sure it's because our games are acting like we've already done Memory Link even though we haven't, as I later tried to abuse on a seed with a listed initial frame of 55, but found that I was somehow actually starting on frame 43, which was the initial frame after Memory Link.

Just as a follow-up to this, I had the same issue when I was RNGing a Magnemite. I can't remember the exact details, but it definitely seemed as if the game was acting like I had memory linked, though I wasn't sure if it was due to the moving NPCs in the area. At the time I figured it was because I had given myself the challenge key, which acted like memory link, but that doesn't explain why you are having the same issues.

I was able to RNG the kami trio as well (though I massively screwed up on Tornadus by miscounting the times I had to spin...) and they all acted like I had done memory link, too. Very interesting indeed. Now to see what happens in my B2 game where I've actually done the memory link...

Silverwarp · Dec 2nd, 2012, 9:23:27 PM

Interesting. It seems that you CAN use Sweet Scent in the Giant Chasm - Plains area. It doesn't get rid of the fog unfortunately, but while Team Plasma is there with the frigate, you can use Sweet Scent. So, unfortunately, for those that want to RNG after the fact, there doesn't seem to be any way around it. I tested it a few times to make sure I wasn't doing something weird.

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Originally Posted by Fat Cipher Admin Lovrina

Does adding Challenge Mode to White 2 change your parameters at all or cause your frames to change?

Well, when I activated Challenge Mode in Black 2, it seems that my Timer0 shifted. I don't know exactly what it is, but where on the milliseconds I would hit to get a specific timer0 felt different than what it was before. I still get a Timer0 in the range of 1103 - 1107, but certain Timer0s become more common (particularly 1103).

**Nexus** · Dec 2nd, 2012, 10:59:12 PM

For anyone wanting to abuse Hidden Grotto Encounters we just uploaded a new guide on just that, so if you were wondering about it/had any questions take a look here http://www.smogon.com/ingame/rng/hidden_grotto_abuse any further questions should of course be kept to this thread.

Degrat · Dec 3rd, 2012, 12:15:27 AM

Regarding NPCs that advance frames. Does this only refer to NPCs that 'walk', or is 'turning in place' able to advance frames as well?

Hozu · Dec 3rd, 2012, 12:29:58 AM

Any movement from an NPC that is unpredictable advances the PRNG.

Spoit · Dec 3rd, 2012, 4:38:35 AM

So what's a good minimum level (or area in white 2) to try to find your parameters with?

Ashenlock · Dec 3rd, 2012, 7:34:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Spoit

So what's a good minimum level (or area in white 2) to try to find your parameters with?

I use the last cave room in Victory Road. If you're trying to do it very early in the game, you could catch a bunch of Pokémon and send them to Pokecheck to find their IVs.

Mo96 · Dec 3rd, 2012, 1:11:21 PM

Do keypresses help maintain the timer0? I am trying to RNG a flawless timid reshiram on a DSi (White2) with no results so far.

funeral_cake · Dec 3rd, 2012, 4:32:51 PM

Keypresses have no effect on the timer0. Just keep at it, since that's pretty much all you can do.

jp134711 · Dec 3rd, 2012, 6:26:10 PM

Hi guys, I'm trying to adapt BW2 Entralink RNG for use in RNGReporter. I'm quite confused as to where to start because Entralink RNG no longer uses C-Gear Seeds. How do I go about finding my seed and the timing associated with it?

Misdreavus · Dec 3rd, 2012, 8:26:24 PM

Is it impossible to RNG IVs with Hidden Grotto Pokémon?

**Stellar** · Dec 3rd, 2012, 8:30:02 PM

You RNG IVs for Hidden Grotto Pokémon the same was as a stationary Pokémon/wild Pokémon. The only things that are set when they initially appear in the hollow are species and gender.

Misdreavus · Dec 3rd, 2012, 8:49:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Stellar

You RNG IVs for Hidden Grotto Pokémon the same was as a stationary Pokémon/wild Pokémon. The only things that are set when they initially appear in the hollow are species and gender.

Where do your target IVs come into play when selecting your seed? You search for seeds based on slots, subslots, gender, and gender ratio.

**voodoo pimp** · Dec 3rd, 2012, 8:57:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Misdreavus

Where do your target IVs come into play when selecting your seed? You search for seeds based on slots, subslots, gender, and gender ratio.

That's only to RNG the species/gender. Once the Pokémon has been generated inside the hollow, you can then save and RNG the IVs/nature just like any other stationary (except it has its own PIDRNG type).

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Nexus Number C96: Dark Storm Moderator Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,378 Mentor	For anyone wanting to abuse Hidden Grotto Encounters we just uploaded a new guide on just that, so if you were wondering about it/had any questions take a look here http://www.smogon.com/ingame/rng/hidden_grotto_abuse any further questions should of course be kept to this thread. __________________

Dec 2nd, 2012, 1:13:26 PM	#17378
Mo96 Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 102	Does anyone know where I can find a guide for RNGing pokemon found in ruslting grass or swirling dust. I want to RNG a flawless drilbur/excadrill.

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Mo96 Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 102	I have to find a cave spot first, save and then try RNging, right?

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Degrat Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 3	Regarding NPCs that advance frames. Does this only refer to NPCs that 'walk', or is 'turning in place' able to advance frames as well?

Dec 3rd, 2012, 12:29:58 AM	#17391
Hozu RNGenius Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 1,177 Orre	Any movement from an NPC that is unpredictable advances the PRNG. __________________ McGillicuddy's Bazaar - Hidden Grotto encounter RNG guide for RNG reporter - Emerald Egg PID RNG guide - Misc 3rd gen info - incl. Emerald frontier/Orre Colosseum, frame offsets - Free events If I CMT in your thread please respond in mine. If I really wanted a Pokémon that is more common than herpes, I'd get it myself from Pokécheck.

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Spoit Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 28	So what's a good minimum level (or area in white 2) to try to find your parameters with?

Dec 3rd, 2012, 1:11:21 PM	#17394
Mo96 Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 102	Do keypresses help maintain the timer0? I am trying to RNG a flawless timid reshiram on a DSi (White2) with no results so far.

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funeral_cake Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 65	Keypresses have no effect on the timer0. Just keep at it, since that's pretty much all you can do.

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jp134711 Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 104	Hi guys, I'm trying to adapt BW2 Entralink RNG for use in RNGReporter. I'm quite confused as to where to start because Entralink RNG no longer uses C-Gear Seeds. How do I go about finding my seed and the timing associated with it?

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Misdreavus Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,210 Orlando, FL	Is it impossible to RNG IVs with Hidden Grotto Pokémon? __________________ My other Rotom is a washing machine.

Dec 3rd, 2012, 8:30:02 PM	#17398
Stellar Moderator Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,264	You RNG IVs for Hidden Grotto Pokémon the same was as a stationary Pokémon/wild Pokémon. The only things that are set when they initially appear in the hollow are species and gender.