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Dec 1st, 2012, 1:48:55 PM
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RU Stats: November 2012
*Massive thanks to Antar!*
RU November Statistics
November Usage Stats
Lead Usage
Metagame Analysis
Moveset Statistics October Usage Stats Some comments. Nidoqueen continues to dominate as she overcame Sceptile for the number one spot, and surges with 4% more usage than Sceptile. Cresselia is 12th, but should be higher, the majority of the ladder players probably don't know that its unbanned, or doesn't like her. Dusknoir #17? The other recent drop, Durant, is 44th in usage, is that how viable it actually is? Stoutland is 83rd, that is crazy; Stoutland for NU? Roselia could drop to NU, and if she does, she will be a massive special tank and an excellent Spikes user. Some tier changes that could happen. Absol might move up from NU to RU. | 51 | Absol | 2917 | 4.728% | 2135 | 4.204% | As might Cinccino. | 54 | Cinccino | 2649 | 4.293% | 2231 | 4.393% | Roselia could drop to NU from RU. | 63 | Roselia | 1536 | 2.489% | 1283 | 2.526% | Stoutland could also drop. | 83 | Stoutland | 609 | 0.987% | 491 | 0.967% | RU got more battles than Standard UU, but that's because UU battlers were on the Suspect ladder. RU also got more battles than LC. Feel free to discuss. ^.^
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Dec 1st, 2012, 2:06:12 PM
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Ah yes, more stats to be speaking about!
My Thoughts on these Stats: | 1 | Nidoqueen | 12845 | 20.818% | 10879 | 21.422% | Excellent! She is finally queen of RU! Not surprised, Nidoqueen is amazing, so much it might even go BL2! It's got 112 Special Attack (Taking Sheer Force into account), and amazing coverage. It's a great Pokemon, and it's got bulk too. So it's no wonder it made it so high. | 4 | Gallade | 9328 | 15.118% | 7414 | 14.599% | | 6 | Entei | 7983 | 12.938% | 6341 | 12.486% | The premier physical attackers of RU are still taking over. | 5 | Uxie | 8289 | 13.434% | 7687 | 15.137% | Wait..isn't it...outclassed....by Cresselia? | 10 | Sandslash | 6923 | 11.220% | 5945 | 11.706% | *Screams endlessly*..Give me a moment to scream like a banshee in horror at this making it into Top 10, exceeding every spinner in usage. | 15 | Feraligatr | 6350 | 10.292% | 5130 | 10.102% | But I though Gatr Time is dead. | 17 | Dusknoir | 6315 | 10.235% | 5347 | 10.529% | ............. | 26 | Lilligant | 5541 | 8.981% | 4300 | 8.467% | Lilligant needs a lot more love. She is one of the best in RU. | 30 | Crawdaunt | 5203 | 8.433% | 4079 | 8.032% | Nice to see Crawdaunt on the rise in usage. It's amazing in RU, the second best Dark-type behind Absol. | 32 | Escavalier | 5036 | 8.162% | 4094 | 8.062% | Needs to be Top RU. | 35 | Electivire | 4784 | 7.754% | 3813 | 7.508% | | 40 | Whimsicott | 3966 | 6.428% | 3416 | 6.726% | Shitmons taking over RU...Seriously, put these two in NU, heck PU even. They suck hard. | 41 | Ferroseed | 3929 | 6.368% | 3507 | 6.906% | | 55 | Munchlax | 2636 | 4.272% | 2134 | 4.202% | *sigh*..Some things just never change, do they? | 51 | Absol | 2917 | 4.728% | 2135 | 4.204% | | 54 | Cinccino | 2649 | 4.293% | 2231 | 4.393% | GO GET 'EM ABSOL AND CINCCINO! | 58 | Mesprit | 2410 | 3.906% | 2044 | 4.025% Please don't go....Why you so low? | 59 | Primeape | 2339 | 3.791% | 1945 | 3.830% | Stop Using this..please. Any merit it may have had is now gone. | 60 | Scolipede | 2331 | 3.778% | 1918 | 3.777% | Scolipede needs a lot more love. | 66 | Golurk | 1447 | 2.345% | 1229 | 2.420% | Why aren't you used more? Golurk and Cinccino make a good offensive core (add Magmortar and then it's a field day.) | 73 | Tauros | 827 | 1.340% | 608 | 1.197% | | 74 | Ludicolo | 817 | 1.324% | 659 | 1.298% | These two are so underrated There are so many things underrated in the low recesses of the stats. Especially this: | 116 | Fraxure | 283 | 0.459% | 208 | 0.410% | This needs at least 4% usage in RU.
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Dec 1st, 2012, 2:13:28 PM
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| 12 | Cresselia | 6550 | 10.616% | 5309 | 10.454% |
This doesn't surprise me at all. One of the most broken Pokemon in RU is hitting Top 15 in usage thresholds once she was released from her BL2 slumber. | 17 | Dusknoir | 6315 | 10.235% | 5347 | 10.529% | For all a you glubbin about Dusknoir, do realize Spiritomb is above it in usage thresholds now. :V Also, for what it's worth, I might use him in OU more alongside Keldeo and Volcarona, once I get the chance to. I get DPP OU nostalgia off of it while also helping with the OU usage thresholds in a Karenite way that I agree with that takes Zebraiken's words to heart. :3 | 40 | Whimsicott | 3966 | 6.428% | 3416 | 6.726% | | 41 | Ferroseed | 3929 | 6.368% | 3507 | 6.906% | While Whimsicott isn't getting the usage it quite deserves (around the mid-to-high 20's), the fact it is being used more than Ferroseed is enough to make me happy. | 60 | Scolipede | 2331 | 3.778% | 1918 | 3.777% | What'll it take to get people to use one of the fastest Pokemon in RU? The fact it palpably checks Cresselia, but doesn't quite counter? :V Last edited by DittoCrow; Dec 1st, 2012 at 2:38:59 PM. Reason: there's no conspiracy |
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Dec 1st, 2012, 2:13:40 PM
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Dec 1st, 2012, 4:43:46 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2012
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Ahh stats, my favorite time of the month. Thank you Antar! Though I will say it feels weird considering we had half-month stats to work with.
My observations/comments: The Pokes who came on strong in the 2nd half: 1. Cresselia +4.965% from 1st half 2. Nidoqueen +3.14% 3. Durant +2.96% 4. Qwilfish +1.481% 5. Absol +1.257% The top 3 are all pretty much expected, with the 2 suspects at the top and a fairly recently re-released Durant at number 3. Qwilfish at number 4 is pretty interesting. I would've expected it to go to Poliwrath given what I've heard about the physically bulky waters, but Qwilfish is still solid. And it was a great second half for Absol. It went from borderline RU to something that will most likely rise up come the next month. The Pokes who stumbled in the 2nd half: 1. Dusknoir -1.577% from 1st half 2. Magmortar -1.412% 3. Sceptile -1.324% 4. Bouffalant -1.323% 5. Moltres -1.295% It appears the fact that Dusknoir =/= Cofagrigus is starting to sink in, although I wouldn't guarantee this trend will continue as strongly next month. I talked about Magmortar's huge rise in the 1st half stats, and this seems to indicate a bit of regression towards the mean, so to speak. Still a net gain for him over this month, though. Sceptile has the second largest drop over the course of the entire month (behind Uxie), but it still only dropped him one spot. I don't see him dropping to much further. I'm not sure about Bouffalant, never used him. But I think he's pretty good in RU right? If Moltres had top-tier usage to go with its top-tier viability rank, I would brush it off like I brushed off Sceptile. But he doesn't so this trend makes absolutely no sense to me. And now some predictions for fun: Fortunes Rising: Rotom (Neutral) Despite a falling this month, it appears to be more of a "regression to the mean" when sided with his massive jump from September to October. Throw in he's the only Ghost-type capable of beating Kabutops and I expect to see a rise to just below where he was in October. Fortunes Falling: Rotom (Mow) Pretty much the opposite of his neutral form, he appeared to rise this month in a "regression to the mean" fashion. However, he also fell off in the second-half of the month, so he appears to be trending downward on the whole. However, I can't think of anything negative to say about him metagame wise so I would love to be proven wrong. Bold Prediction of the Month: Primeape falls to NU He has a similar trend to Rotom-Mow, but his usage is actually low enough where it might matter. His rise this month was pretty insignificant compared to his huge drop immediately after a Ghost-type left the tier. That to me seems more telling of his ultimate fate.
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Dec 1st, 2012, 5:08:25 PM
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| 1 | Nidoqueen | 12845 | 20.818% | 10879 | 21.422% |
I never understood why Nidoqueen gets so much love in RU. I mean, yeah, Sheer Force, cool. I guess its base 76 speed just turns me completely off. While Nidoqueen doesn't have a large list of counters, it's still checked by powerful things like Gallade, Medicham, Entei, Moltres, Aerodactyl, Sceptile, and Kabutops. Nearly every time one of these pokemon is out on your Nidoqueen, you're going to have to sac it or something else. This is undoubtedly the case with things like BandCham and BandEntei. Not only can Nidoqueen have momentum taken from her quite easily once something has been saced, but things like Moltres, Aero, and Kabu can switch directly in on Earth Powers, Fire Blasts, and Sludge Waves.. Aero resists all three. | 2 | Sceptile | 10166 | 16.476% | 7893 | 15.542% | This is the true Queen of RU. While Sceptile doesn't have Nido's extensive special movepool, its blazing 120 base speed in combination with its powerful 105 base special attack makes it hard to compete with. Just to clarify, Sceptile's movepool is nowhere near bad. Leaf Storm and Focus Blast coverage hits the majority of the tier, and can be complimented by a Hidden Power. Sceptile is also much more versatile than Nido, being able to run not only a special attack set, but also Swords Dance and SubSeed effectively. | 3 | Slowking | 10133 | 16.423% | 8183 | 16.113% | Meh, I don't agree with this being so high. | 4 | Gallade | 9328 | 15.118% | 7414 | 14.599% | Yes! Gallade is easily one of the best late game sweepers in the tier. Lum Berry, respectable bulk, and great typing give it plenty of set up opportunities. STAB Close Combat hits like a truck, especially coming from a monster base 125 attack. Priority, in the form of Shadow Sneak, patches up Gallde's average speed stat. Gallade also has plenty of coverage moves, like Psycho Cut and Night Slash. | 5 | Uxie | 8289 | 13.434% | 7687 | 15.137% | Really? Cresselia and Uxie should trade spots. Hah, just kidding, Uxie is probably the tier's bulkiest Stleath Rock user. It can also support it's team with moves like Thunder Wave, or Dual Screens. U-Turn is an excellent move to keep momentum. Definitely one of the best bulky pivots in RU. | 6 | Entei | 7983 | 12.938% | 6341 | 12.486% | Yeeees. Banded Flare Blitz destroys literally everything. Getting hazards up, and putting pressure on the opponent with Entei is going to end well for you. Even Slowking takes a hefty 40%-50%, and after rocks or spikes, that thing is going down. | 7 | Galvantula | 7732 | 12.532% | 6161 | 12.132% | | 8 | Typhlosion | 7558 | 12.250% | 6086 | 11.984% | These are great special attackers with great speed, movepools, and spatk. | 9 | Aerodactyl | 7362 | 11.932% | 6651 | 13.097% | Definitely the tier's best offensive Stealth Rock user. Aero can easily check things like Nidoqueen, Moltres.. I'm not even going to start this list, because it's a long one. | 10 | Sandslash | 6923 | 11.220% | 5945 | 11.706% | HAHAH WHAT? While Slash can both Spin and lay rocks, so can Kabutops. Kabu is infinitely better, in my opinion. While it's nowhere near as bulky, Kabu has offensive presence. | 11 | Hitmonlee | 6567 | 10.643% | 5080 | 10.003% | Another excellent priority user. | 12 | Cresselia | 6550 | 10.616% | 5309 | 10.454% | Should be much higher. Cress walls a large majority of the tier, i hate playing these things unless i have a Drapion or Skunk in my back pocket. | 13 | Tangrowth | 6473 | 10.491% | 5328 | 10.491% | A great defensive wall with a great ability. | 14 | Spiritomb | 6413 | 10.394% | 5397 | 10.627% | Arguably the tier's best anti-spinner. No weaknesses, and passable movepool is fantastic. | 15 | Feraligatr | 6350 | 10.292% | 5130 | 10.102% | Definitely a great DD or SD sweeper, with great coverage moves. | 16 | Kabutops | 6330 | 10.259% | 4844 | 9.538% | Yeeeeesss. The tier's best spinner in my opinion. It's versatility is also fantastic, opponent doesn't know whether you will SD, SR, or spin. | 17 | Dusknoir | 6315 | 10.235% | 5347 | 10.529% | Spinblocker, surprised its so big~~ | 18 | Magmortar | 6211 | 10.066% | 5068 | 9.979% | Surprised this is so much higher than Moltres.. Suppose it isn't as weak to rocks though. | 25 | Drapion | 5557 | 9.006% | 4687 | 9.229% | A great pomemon to trap ghosts and physics. Opens the path for Medicham and Gallade sweep. I'm really surprised Drapion doesn't see more usage. | 26 | Lilligant | 5541 | 8.981% | 4300 | 8.467% | Please stay here. I hate playing against Lilligant. Definitely a threat if it gets a Quiver or two up. | 29 | Moltres | 5296 | 8.583% | 4232 | 8.333% | Why is this so low?! Moltres has massive 125 base special attack, and something usually dies when it comes in. The tier has a lot of usable spinners, I consider this to be the tier's volcorona. It definitely deserves more usage. | 51 | Absol | 2917 | 4.728% | 2135 | 4.204% | This definitely deserves a lot more usage. It's 394 max attack is one of the highest in the tier. Sucker Punch helps patch up its below average speed. Taunt and Swords Dance can help it beat Cresselia. | 53 | Klinklang | 2729 | 4.423% | 2104 | 4.143% | Thank you. I don't know why people pick this as their team's sweeper. Its coverage is atrocious. | 54 | Cinccino | 2649 | 4.293% | 2231 | 4.393% | This thing can be extremely annoying, i'd like to see this used more. Last edited by Valentine; Dec 2nd, 2012 at 9:34:28 PM. |
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Dec 2nd, 2012, 4:40:41 PM
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Just one thing to say: These moveset stats sicken me.
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53% of all Typhlosions are running Choice Scarf. It is a very mediocre set that fails to revenge kill anything. Use the Specs set, please.
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Almost every Sigilyph is the Cosmic Power variant. Cosmic Power is a terrible set that is shut down by a number of things, and needs a lot of boosts to be threatening. The Calm Mind set is the truly dangerous one. I wonder why people keep using CP Sigi.
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Dec 3rd, 2012, 3:55:27 AM
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Well, Scarfed Typhlosion can kill Durant unlike the Specs one and Durant is almost unstoppable after a single Hone Claws in RU. I also use Scarf myself just for Durant. But it didn't do much work other than that because it lacks power, so I see what you mean. To me, Cresellia and Durant are the most broken pokemon in RU right now and they need to go for sure. Nidoqueen follows after them. Scyther and Electivire should be tried in NU by the way, in my opinion.
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Dec 3rd, 2012, 11:20:24 AM
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How is Durant broken? It is really easy to check with faster pokemon, such as Sceptile or even Fire Blast Tauros. It doesn't even hit that hard thanks to the low Base Power of its moves. For example, it hits roughly as hard as LO Primeape's Close Combat with it's STAB move. It also misses far too often with a Choice Band. Although Durant used to be a major pain to defensive teams, there are still a number of counters to the Hone Claws set, such as Poliwrath and Qwilfish, and it still finds time to set-up very difficult(the only things you can set-up on are Choice locked spiritomb and drapion).
Anyway, these stats are fairly terrible. 40% of emboar running bulk up is just lol, and more than 50% of typhlosion have scarf, which is also a really terrible set. In the top ten alone, Gallade, Galvantula and Aerodactyl are all far too high, especially as the majority are running terrible sets like Bulk Up, scarf and Taunt+SR lead. There are also loads of really great mons that are far too low, such as Tauros, Miltank and Fraxure among others. I'm glad to see that Absol is in RU range though, as it is easily one of the best mons in the tier when it comes to revenge killing and sweeping with SD.
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Dec 3rd, 2012, 12:12:45 PM
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I really think Durant should have more usage. It is really strong with Hustle and has high speed. Coupled with Choice Band, Durant can totally rip through teams. Although, it does have a 4x fire weakness.
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