VGC 2013 Regional Rules - Page 5

Sprocket · Dec 2nd, 2012, 6:26:43 PM

I can see Thundurus-T being popular simply because it's a good check for Zapdos, opposing Thundurus and to a lesser degree Rotom. The most that Thundurus (I and T) can do to Thundurus-T is Hidden Power; Zapdos has Heat Wave and Hidden Power, but is outsped by Thundurus-T.

PMMikey · Dec 3rd, 2012, 8:02:40 PM

Aw man, why can't I use Keldeo?

evan · Dec 3rd, 2012, 8:05:04 PM

Keldeo is an event mon, which have historically never been allowed in VGC tournaments because of their limited distribution. It has however been legal in a couple of Japanese Global Link tournaments that i hope we'll see stateside some day.

No. 1 Machop Fan · Dec 7th, 2012, 2:52:57 AM

What matters first and foremost, before the rules are announced, before the location is revealed, is...

WILL AUSTRALIA BE ALLOWED TO PARTICIPATE?????

**voodoo pimp** · Dec 7th, 2012, 3:03:02 AM

There are still no events in Australia yet, but as far as I can tell, you can compete if you're able to travel.

No. 1 Machop Fan · Dec 7th, 2012, 6:07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat voodoo pimp

There are still no events in Australia yet, but as far as I can tell, you can compete if you're able to travel.

So basically, TPCi still hates Australia? -_- If they weren't so goddamn addicted to their hip-pocket, they would give us a fair go! I know I'm sounding undeserving with my annual rant, but I don't even know what we Australians as a group did wrong BEFORE the World VGCs started to deserve this!

Sorry to backchat to a staffie, but that's just how pissed off I am about what I consider discrimination on TPCi's part.

Cybertron · Dec 7th, 2012, 6:25:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat No. 1 Machop Fan

So basically, TPCi still hates Australia? -_- If they weren't so goddamn addicted to their hip-pocket, they would give us a fair go! I know I'm sounding undeserving with my annual rant, but I don't even know what we Australians as a group did wrong BEFORE the World VGCs started to deserve this!

Sorry to backchat to a staffie, but that's just how pissed off I am about what I consider discrimination on TPCi's part.

Oh please. I am confident TCPi does not "hate" any country, especially not Australia. I am also confident that they want to expand the VGC program into other countries. But you have to understand that there is a certain budget every year, and they can only allot enough money for a certain number of tournaments. No one said Australians did anything wrong as a group. Please stop thinking that Australia is not included because the company hates you, because that is flat out false. I understand your frustration as a player, but there is no need to make false accusations towards a professional company.

Golden Piloswine · Dec 7th, 2012, 11:58:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Cybertron

Oh please. I am confident TCPi does not "hate" any country, especially not Australia. I am also confident that they want to expand the VGC program into other countries. But you have to understand that there is a certain budget every year, and they can only allot enough money for a certain number of tournaments. No one said Australians did anything wrong as a group. Please stop thinking that Australia is not included because the company hates you, because that is flat out false. I understand your frustration as a player, but there is no need to make false accusations towards a professional company.

Does Australia have TCG? If so that, among other things, prove that they are trying to push cards over games. True the games don't need as much "life support" as the cards, but they must be profitable for TPCi to keep it going. They feel like that they just don't need to push VGC throughout the world as much as the cards.

Cybertron · Dec 8th, 2012, 9:24:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Golden Piloswine

Does Australia have TCG? If so that, among other things, prove that they are trying to push cards over games. True the games don't need as much "life support" as the cards, but they must be profitable for TPCi to keep it going. They feel like that they just don't need to push VGC throughout the world as much as the cards.

This is also an ignorant comment. Yes, Australia has TCG. 2011's Senior World Champion was even from Australia. But that doesn't prove anything, and it certainly does not prove that "they are trying to push cards over games."

Look at the number of countries that are involved with TCG. It is much greater than the number of countries involved with VGC. Now this makes sense because competitive TCG support has been around much longer than competitive VGC support...

"They feel like that they just don't need to push VGC throughout the world as much as the cards."

No, Pokemon certainly does not feel that way. You might think that, but don't pass off your own words as theirs. Yes, VGC gets less support and prizes than TCG does, but like I said, VGC support started several years after TCG. If you really think Pokemon does not want to expand the VGC program into other countries, you must be close-minded. I am sure their budget just does not allow for it right now.

No. 1 Machop Fan · Dec 11th, 2012, 1:45:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Cybertron

This is also an ignorant comment. Yes, Australia has TCG. 2011's Senior World Champion was even from Australia. But that doesn't prove anything, and it certainly does not prove that "they are trying to push cards over games."

Look at the number of countries that are involved with TCG. It is much greater than the number of countries involved with VGC. Now this makes sense because competitive TCG support has been around much longer than competitive VGC support...

"They feel like that they just don't need to push VGC throughout the world as much as the cards."

No, Pokemon certainly does not feel that way. You might think that, but don't pass off your own words as theirs. Yes, VGC gets less support and prizes than TCG does, but like I said, VGC support started several years after TCG. If you really think Pokemon does not want to expand the VGC program into other countries, you must be close-minded. I am sure their budget just does not allow for it right now.

Come to think of it, how many years was it since TCG World Championships started before Australia was included?

Firestorm · Dec 11th, 2012, 1:53:05 AM

No. 1 Machop Fan: Theoretical scenario. Australia gets a VGC event. A National Championship. It's in Perth and winner of each division gets trips to Worlds. Would you attend?

Jayden Windsong · Dec 11th, 2012, 8:39:55 AM

So, I know this will probably be seen as a stupid question, but I'll ask anyway:

I've noticed that people tend to just use perfect IV teams when using the Smogon battle simulator program thing to fight each other. Is there the same expectation that people hack their Pokemon to perfect IVs when entering tournaments like this from a cartridge, too? Or is there a way that the mods check for that, etc.?

ultimatedra · Dec 11th, 2012, 8:53:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Jayden Windsong

So, I know this will probably be seen as a stupid question, but I'll ask anyway:

I've noticed that people tend to just use perfect IV teams when using the Smogon battle simulator program thing to fight each other. Is there the same expectation that people hack their Pokemon to perfect IVs when entering tournaments like this from a cartridge, too? Or is there a way that the mods check for that, etc.?

At every live pokemon video game tournament there will be hack checks to ensure a pokemon was obtained legally.

It even states in the official rules that use of outside devices such as action replay is strictly prohibited and anybody found with illegal pokemon obtained by such means will be disqualified from the tournament without prizes.

http://assets2.pokemon.com/assets/cm...nd_Formats.pdf

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Originally Posted by Fat Pokemon VG Rules and Formats

2.1. External Devices
The use of external devices to modify or create items or Pokémon in a player’s party is expressly forbidden. Players found to have Pokémon or items that have been tampered with will be disqualified from competition, regardless of whether the Pokémon or items belong to that player or were traded for. Players should only have Pokémon that they have raised themselves and items that they have received through normal game play. It is always the player’s responsibility to have legal Pokémon and items during the competition.

pootoucher · Dec 11th, 2012, 9:47:23 AM

while hacking is illegal, as far as I know RNGing is legal and that seems to be the way people enter these things with perfect IV spread pokemon.

**voodoo pimp** · Dec 11th, 2012, 1:51:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat pootoucher

while hacking is illegal, as far as I know RNGing is legal and that seems to be the way people enter these things with perfect IV spread pokemon.

This is correct. Hacking is against the VGC rules (and it's also against Smogon's rules to discuss it in detail), but many players use RNG to obtain flawless Pokémon. You can read more about that in the Wi-Fi forum or the on-site guides, or if you're not able to do it you may want to check out this thread where RNGers offer to provide free Pokémon to VGC players.

No. 1 Machop Fan · Dec 11th, 2012, 4:58:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Firestorm

No. 1 Machop Fan: Theoretical scenario. Australia gets a VGC event. A National Championship. It's in Perth and winner of each division gets trips to Worlds. Would you attend?

If I had the money I would definitely make an effort to go with some friends of mine. There's a whole bunch of us who play competitively, and we even hold live tournaments during school breaks! I know some of them would do anything to get into Worlds. Some are even planning to spend thousands to try and get into the LCQs in Vancouver!

threeedaaawwwg · Dec 19th, 2012, 12:51:08 AM

I'm new here, so I have to ask why is chatot not allowed?

**voodoo pimp** · Dec 19th, 2012, 3:02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat threeedaaawwwg

I'm new here, so I have to ask why is chatot not allowed?

TPCi doesn't elaborate on their reasons, but most likely it's because you could use Chatter to record profanity or other inappropriate things.

Neutricity · Dec 21st, 2012, 5:42:41 PM

I need to know if there's been any update in the rules. Anything at all.

evan · Dec 21st, 2012, 6:00:42 PM

Quite a few actually:

Full 2013 season schedule
Championship Points Structure/Worlds Invites
Regionals prizes and Nationals prizes announced.

c l e a r · Dec 21st, 2012, 6:49:48 PM

So, I see that there is a regs for Vancouver...
Why no Toronto this time, even for Spring?

Biosci · Dec 21st, 2012, 7:14:11 PM

There was a regional for the 2013 season in Toronto in the fall. Why would they have 2 regionals in the same place for one season?

Neutricity · Dec 28th, 2012, 1:38:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat evan

Quite a few actually:

Full 2013 season schedule
Championship Points Structure/Worlds Invites
Regionals prizes and Nationals prizes announced.

Thanks a bunch! I saw that part about Soul Dew and almost died...until I scrolled down. Thanks!

OmegaJay · Dec 30th, 2012, 4:29:05 PM

So could I use a BW2 cartridge in the April 14th regionals?

**voodoo pimp** · Dec 30th, 2012, 4:35:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat OmegaJay

So could I use a BW2 cartridge in the April 14th regionals?

You have to use BW2 carts, BW1 will not be usable.

Dec 2nd, 2012, 6:26:43 PM	#101
Sprocket Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,487 Phoenix, AZ	I can see Thundurus-T being popular simply because it's a good check for Zapdos, opposing Thundurus and to a lesser degree Rotom. The most that Thundurus (I and T) can do to Thundurus-T is Hidden Power; Zapdos has Heat Wave and Hidden Power, but is outsped by Thundurus-T. __________________ Black FC: 2537-3042-2350 VGC2012 Analysis: Slowbro (Uploaded)

Dec 3rd, 2012, 8:02:40 PM	#102
PMMikey Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 3 Dallas, TX	Aw man, why can't I use Keldeo? __________________ I didn't expect anyone to be there,but when I reached the top of the mountain, I saw him. He stood as if he had been waiting all along, for someone to make it this far. He hit me with a cold glance, and without a word, reached for a Pokeball. I swallowed my fear... And he did the same.

Dec 7th, 2012, 2:52:57 AM	#104
No. 1 Machop Fan Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 218 Victoria, Australia	What matters first and foremost, before the rules are announced, before the location is revealed, is... WILL AUSTRALIA BE ALLOWED TO PARTICIPATE????? __________________ I peaked at rank 19 in Dream World OU on our PO server using nothing but gimmicks. js If you're a Bionicle fan and you want Bionicle to come back, join the Smogon branch of the Bring Back Bionicle Club. If you would like Australia to join the Pokémon World VGC in the future, sign my petition.

Dec 7th, 2012, 3:03:02 AM	#105
voodoo pimp Apply directly to the forehead Moderator Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 2,964	There are still no events in Australia yet, but as far as I can tell, you can compete if you're able to travel. __________________ Check out Smogon's new Doubles metagame! White FC: 4126-4421-4056 Black 2 FC: 3311-0920-4475 My Pokécheck Pokémon RNG is kind of like firing a gun. Why shoot blindly in every direction until you're lucky enough to hit the target when you can just take the time to aim properly and hit it with one shot?

Dec 11th, 2012, 1:53:05 AM	#111
Firestorm I did my best, I have no regrets! Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 7,261 Vancouver, BC	No. 1 Machop Fan: Theoretical scenario. Australia gets a VGC event. A National Championship. It's in Perth and winner of each division gets trips to Worlds. Would you attend? __________________

Dec 3rd, 2012, 8:05:04 PM	#103
evan I did my best -- I have no regrets Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,261	Keldeo is an event mon, which have historically never been allowed in VGC tournaments because of their limited distribution. It has however been legal in a couple of Japanese Global Link tournaments that i hope we'll see stateside some day.

Dec 11th, 2012, 8:39:55 AM	#112
Jayden Windsong Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 1	So, I know this will probably be seen as a stupid question, but I'll ask anyway: I've noticed that people tend to just use perfect IV teams when using the Smogon battle simulator program thing to fight each other. Is there the same expectation that people hack their Pokemon to perfect IVs when entering tournaments like this from a cartridge, too? Or is there a way that the mods check for that, etc.?

Dec 11th, 2012, 9:47:23 AM	#114
pootoucher Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 26	while hacking is illegal, as far as I know RNGing is legal and that seems to be the way people enter these things with perfect IV spread pokemon.

Dec 19th, 2012, 12:51:08 AM	#117
threeedaaawwwg Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 5	I'm new here, so I have to ask why is chatot not allowed?

Dec 21st, 2012, 5:42:41 PM	#119
Neutricity Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 5	I need to know if there's been any update in the rules. Anything at all.

Dec 21st, 2012, 6:00:42 PM	#120
evan I did my best -- I have no regrets Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,261	Quite a few actually: Full 2013 season schedule Championship Points Structure/Worlds Invites Regionals prizes and Nationals prizes announced.

Dec 21st, 2012, 6:49:48 PM	#121
c l e a r Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,280 Carousel of Agony	So, I see that there is a regs for Vancouver... Why no Toronto this time, even for Spring? __________________ いつからだろう君のことを追いかける There is no chance, no destiny, no fate, that can circumvent or hinder or control the firm resolve of a determined soul. - Ella Wheeler Wilcox Soul Silver FC: 5070 6986 0930 \| Black FC: 0218 1017 4907 I use legal hacks sometimes, events have been legit checked if I use them.

Dec 21st, 2012, 7:14:11 PM	#122
Biosci The Flyin' Wifin' Hawaiian Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 1,332 Hilo	There was a regional for the 2013 season in Toronto in the fall. Why would they have 2 regionals in the same place for one season? __________________ 1st Place Winter VGCS and 2nd Place Long Beach Winter Regionals!

Dec 30th, 2012, 4:29:05 PM	#124
OmegaJay Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 2	So could I use a BW2 cartridge in the April 14th regionals?