(Tournament) 2012 VGCS Winter Battle - Biosci wins!

gregj91 · Dec 6th, 2012, 1:35:28 AM

I can't believe no one here posted this yet(unless I'm missing something, or maybe someone has posted it, but somehow found his/her topic locked):

Credit to serebii.net for posting it first:

http://pglhelp.pokemon.com/en/gbu/winter_battle_2012/

So, just like the TCG before they ever bothered with the pokemon video games, Championship Points will now be awarded for Pokemon Video Game players!!!

Mods, feel free to edit the title if the tourney is full already...

Members, discuss your thoughts regarding this development and/or the tournament...

The Last Sheikah · Dec 6th, 2012, 3:38:39 PM

Registration's open, right? Has anyone tried entering with Soul Dew? I remember hearing it was supposed to be banned and the rules just didn't mention it, but it'd be nice to know for sure.

EDIT: Derp, assumed it was the same page as VGC rules.

***RBG**** · Dec 6th, 2012, 3:46:55 PM

Soul Dew is mentioned on the ban list.

Xeno598 · Dec 6th, 2012, 5:29:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat The Last Sheikah

Registration's open, right? Has anyone tried entering with Soul Dew? I remember hearing it was supposed to be banned and the rules just didn't mention it, but it'd be nice to know for sure.

EDIT: Derp, assumed it was the same page as VGC rules.

Soul Dew is banned.

I was gonna try my new experimental 2013 VGC Team, but I'm gonna have to stick with my tried and true VGC 12 team for this tourney. Still some adjustments I need to do before testing.

I'm personally curious how these "Champion Points" are supposed to work, assuming you place high enough to earn them?

M. Rock · Dec 6th, 2012, 5:47:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Xeno598

Soul Dew is banned.

I was gonna try my new experimental 2013 VGC Team, but I'm gonna have to stick with my tried and true VGC 12 team for this tourney. Still some adjustments I need to do before testing.

I'm personally curious how these "Champion Points" are supposed to work, assuming you place high enough to earn them?

128 North American and 128 European players are eligible to earn Champion Points, so I assume it's the 128 highest-ranking players from each region?
Top 16 NA players will win a first round bye to a regional. They haven't decided what to do for European players. All of this paraphrased from this link:
http://pglhelp.pokemon.com/en/gbu/winter_battle_2012/

Age of Kings · Dec 6th, 2012, 6:05:09 PM

Championship Points are points you earn in order to be eligible for Nationals and Worlds, as opposed to the old method of qualifying simply due to doing well in regionals. I'm not sure if they are implementing that qualification route for VGCs this year though, but you can see how it works for TCG.

I signed up but I'm not sure how inclined I will be to participate because of d/c issues that particularly screws over middle of the line players. Awful players have nothing to lose, good players win often enough that a d/c once in awhile will only help them, as was demonstrated by Reuben and others in one of the friendlies awhile back. I find their section on "battle etiquette" cute. The 1hr Global Link kick for both players is in effect for BW2, right? Gamefreak has got to have the most shitastic approach to d/cing.

Pippy · Dec 6th, 2012, 6:18:33 PM

Yea, I see these DC rules only making things worse. Noob players will still rage quit, although it should help deal with the ones who DC to try and get their ranking up. Highly ranked players will be a huge problem, as there is a way around it (I don't remember what it is) that allows you to work around the 1 hour ban. With CPs and byes on the line, I have a bad feeling alot of competitive players will abuse this.

Also, a little heads up would be nice instead of sign ups staring the day it's announced. Some of us don't have a team yet, and getting one isn't exactly a quick process...

Other than that I'm looking forward to this, and I'm hoping I'm wrong about the DCs.

**R_N** · Dec 6th, 2012, 7:40:06 PM

Despite being terrible at competitive battling and having no competitive teams, I decided to sign up just to see what it was like (and get a custap berry)

I don't expect to get many points but it'll be fun seeing the different kinds of teams and how well my rough team does.

Hozu · Dec 6th, 2012, 7:55:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Pippy

Yea, I see these DC rules only making things worse. Noob players will still rage quit, although it should help deal with the ones who DC to try and get their ranking up. Highly ranked players will be a huge problem, as there is a way around it (I don't remember what it is) that allows you to work around the 1 hour ban. With CPs and byes on the line, I have a bad feeling alot of competitive players will abuse this.

Also, a little heads up would be nice instead of sign ups staring the day it's announced. Some of us don't have a team yet, and getting one isn't exactly a quick process...

Other than that I'm looking forward to this, and I'm hoping I'm wrong about the DCs.

Yes I hope you're wrong about being able to dodge the 1 hour penalty. *thinks back to the previous tournament thread with this one guy that "managed his D/C count to qualify and place well"* Among other issues...

Now to think of a team.

BlakDragon · Dec 6th, 2012, 8:04:34 PM

I'm going to enter, but be a lazy fgt and use yall's VGC CCAT team from awhile back =x

Xeno598 · Dec 6th, 2012, 8:51:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Age of Kings

Championship Points are points you earn in order to be eligible for Nationals and Worlds, as opposed to the old method of qualifying simply due to doing well in regionals. I'm not sure if they are implementing that qualification route for VGCs this year though, but you can see how it works for TCG.

Ah, alright. Makes more sense now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Pippy

Yea, I see these DC rules only making things worse. Noob players will still rage quit, although it should help deal with the ones who DC to try and get their ranking up. Highly ranked players will be a huge problem, as there is a way around it (I don't remember what it is) that allows you to work around the 1 hour ban. With CPs and byes on the line, I have a bad feeling alot of competitive players will abuse this.

Also, a little heads up would be nice instead of sign ups staring the day it's announced. Some of us don't have a team yet, and getting one isn't exactly a quick process...

Other than that I'm looking forward to this, and I'm hoping I'm wrong about the DCs.

Let's hope DCs are not an issue. Assuming a player has no clue about this "Workaround," the hour penalty will hopefully deter those who DC to keep their ranking high, as it will cost them valuable battles in the long run.

Swedish · Dec 9th, 2012, 4:34:29 AM

Agreed, all we can do now is wait and see. The custap consolation is nice though.

Shinryu · Dec 10th, 2012, 1:07:30 AM

Entering, though I won't be using my planned team for the upcoming Regionals, gonna roll with something else and hope it can earn enough wins to yank out a bye.

M. Rock · Dec 10th, 2012, 10:26:56 AM

All registered and signed up. Using close to the same team as last time, no way do I have any time to get a new idea/new mons. My only regret is that I won't get to playtest Thundurus-T.

waffles101 · Dec 11th, 2012, 3:15:24 PM

Looks like fun. My team is pretty hastily thrown together but there are no prizes for Aussies anyway.

d.hgss · Dec 11th, 2012, 9:23:06 PM

what if I don't live in North America or Europe? :(

Advancer · Dec 11th, 2012, 9:26:11 PM

Signed up. This will be the first Wi-Fi Competition I've participated in, looking forward to it.

Golden Piloswine · Dec 11th, 2012, 11:05:06 PM

Will wi-fi pick up illegal Pokemon?

tlyee61 · Dec 12th, 2012, 12:43:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Golden Piloswine

Will wi-fi pick up illegal Pokemon?

IIRC random matchup does, but last competition, there was a Rain Dish Rampardos. However, I do not suggest hacking your Pokemon, because you'll get DQed from official VGCs. Also, Smogon does not allow talk about hack checks or how to get past them.

**Eiganjo** · Dec 12th, 2012, 3:46:37 AM

Ill be entering and streaming my matches for the most part on my twitch account via twitch.tv/eiganjo during most evening hours gmt+1

Quote:

I signed up but I'm not sure how inclined I will be to participate because of d/c issues that particularly screws over middle of the line players.

True, but there are ways to see these kind of cups. For me, if I get CP, all is good, disconnnecting will probably be an issue but all in all it is going to be good practice for regionals or whatever tournament you go to. I know some of the spanish players dont give a shit and openly admit they DC, but considering they might be expelled from the real life vgc events should be enough incentive to not do so and take their losses like men and women.

Darkmalice · Dec 12th, 2012, 5:19:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat d.hgss

what if I don't live in North America or Europe? :(

You should still be able to sign up. I'm from Australia, and I just did earlier today

Golden Piloswine · Dec 12th, 2012, 5:25:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat tlyee61

IIRC random matchup does, but last competition, there was a Rain Dish Rampardos. However, I do not suggest hacking your Pokemon, because you'll get DQed from official VGCs. Also, Smogon does not allow talk about hack checks or how to get past them.

Never mind. I can't RNG my mons in time, so I can get them off of Pokecheck. I now know how to get them without the ribbon.

avalanche3387 · Dec 13th, 2012, 7:16:20 PM

And...we start. Good luck all!

Edit: and my first battle is against Biosci. just starting now.
Edit2: Garchomp survived CH close combat with 1 hp then I may have only lost because of a fully paralyzed Cresselia... GG Bio

PsyJ · Dec 13th, 2012, 7:33:21 PM

Good Luck everybody :)

Look out for me: Trainer name: Kitsune (playing as a girl again)

Dark Arceus · Dec 13th, 2012, 7:47:51 PM

First victory against a trainer named itzjose, MetaCune helped win big time. Trainer name is Matthew if any of you see me.

Dec 6th, 2012, 1:35:28 AM	#1
gregj91 Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 81	2012 VGCS Winter Battle - Biosci wins! I can't believe no one here posted this yet(unless I'm missing something, or maybe someone has posted it, but somehow found his/her topic locked): Credit to serebii.net for posting it first: http://pglhelp.pokemon.com/en/gbu/winter_battle_2012/ So, just like the TCG before they ever bothered with the pokemon video games, Championship Points will now be awarded for Pokemon Video Game players!!! Mods, feel free to edit the title if the tourney is full already... Members, discuss your thoughts regarding this development and/or the tournament...

Dec 6th, 2012, 3:38:39 PM	#2
The Last Sheikah Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 36	Registration's open, right? Has anyone tried entering with Soul Dew? I remember hearing it was supposed to be banned and the rules just didn't mention it, but it'd be nice to know for sure. EDIT: Derp, assumed it was the same page as VGC rules. Last edited by The Last Sheikah; Dec 6th, 2012 at 3:57:40 PM.

Dec 6th, 2012, 3:46:55 PM	#3
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Dec 6th, 2012, 6:05:09 PM	#6
Age of Kings Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,303 Between the Devil and the Deep Blue Sea	Championship Points are points you earn in order to be eligible for Nationals and Worlds, as opposed to the old method of qualifying simply due to doing well in regionals. I'm not sure if they are implementing that qualification route for VGCs this year though, but you can see how it works for TCG. I signed up but I'm not sure how inclined I will be to participate because of d/c issues that particularly screws over middle of the line players. Awful players have nothing to lose, good players win often enough that a d/c once in awhile will only help them, as was demonstrated by Reuben and others in one of the friendlies awhile back. I find their section on "battle etiquette" cute. The 1hr Global Link kick for both players is in effect for BW2, right? Gamefreak has got to have the most shitastic approach to d/cing. __________________ Black FC: 3396 3071 2727 mein crap, don't post please

Dec 6th, 2012, 6:18:33 PM	#7
Pippy Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 645 Lick Lick Lick	Yea, I see these DC rules only making things worse. Noob players will still rage quit, although it should help deal with the ones who DC to try and get their ranking up. Highly ranked players will be a huge problem, as there is a way around it (I don't remember what it is) that allows you to work around the 1 hour ban. With CPs and byes on the line, I have a bad feeling alot of competitive players will abuse this. Also, a little heads up would be nice instead of sign ups staring the day it's announced. Some of us don't have a team yet, and getting one isn't exactly a quick process... Other than that I'm looking forward to this, and I'm hoping I'm wrong about the DCs. __________________ The Pokemon Rangers A group devoted to peace and having fun!

Dec 6th, 2012, 7:40:06 PM	#8
R_N Moderator Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,308	Despite being terrible at competitive battling and having no competitive teams, I decided to sign up just to see what it was like (and get a custap berry) I don't expect to get many points but it'll be fun seeing the different kinds of teams and how well my rough team does.

Dec 6th, 2012, 8:04:34 PM	#10
BlakDragon Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 58 Virginia, USA	I'm going to enter, but be a lazy fgt and use yall's VGC CCAT team from awhile back =x __________________ brb getting a better avatar

Dec 9th, 2012, 4:34:29 AM	#12
Swedish Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 1 Arizona	Agreed, all we can do now is wait and see. The custap consolation is nice though.

Dec 10th, 2012, 1:07:30 AM	#13
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Dec 10th, 2012, 10:26:56 AM	#14
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Dec 13th, 2012, 7:16:20 PM	#23
avalanche3387 Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 84	And...we start. Good luck all! Edit: and my first battle is against Biosci. just starting now. Edit2: Garchomp survived CH close combat with 1 hp then I may have only lost because of a fully paralyzed Cresselia... GG Bio __________________ VGC 2012 CO Springs 12th place, 5-2, first VGC tourney I have taken part in. Last edited by avalanche3387; Dec 13th, 2012 at 7:32:07 PM.

Dec 13th, 2012, 7:33:21 PM	#24
PsyJ Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 66 Daytona Beach, FL	Good Luck everybody :) Look out for me: Trainer name: Kitsune (playing as a girl again) __________________ VGC2013 Florida Regional 13th place. My PokeCheck RNGs (Now updated weekly!!) Kanto Johto Hoenn Sinnoh Unova Black FC: 0304 4287 2072 Trainer Name: Rika (female) Black2 FC: 3139 4402 8370 Trainer Name: Kitsune (female)

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