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Texas Cloverleaf · Dec 14th, 2012, 8:48:37 PM

I think you must be mistaken someoneelse, this thread clearly shows dragons types halfway down the first post

Someoneelse · Dec 14th, 2012, 8:53:16 PM

Oh, I was looking at this spreadsheet from the OP of the Battle Hall sign up thread. Maybe it's out of date then.

AOPSUser · Dec 15th, 2012, 12:35:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Someoneelse

Oh, I was looking at this spreadsheet from the OP of the Battle Hall sign up thread. Maybe it's out of date then.

No, the spreadsheet tells which Pokemon you can enter in which rank. For example, Kingdra can be entered in Ranks 3, 4, or 5, as it is Rank 3. However, Dragonite can only challenge Rank 5, as it is Rank 5.

Basically, you can challenge the Rank listed, or any higher Rank, with that Pokemon.

Objection · Dec 15th, 2012, 5:06:52 AM

Yeah, there's a difference between "Pokemon you may use in rank X" and "Pokemon the opponent may use in rank X" and a pokemon can easily be on one list but not the other.

TIO · Dec 24th, 2012, 7:14:35 PM

http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3476209
How much extra damage do crits do for a Kingdra, if it's holding a Dragon Scale and it loses Sniper?

AOPSUser · Dec 24th, 2012, 7:37:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat TIO

http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3476209
How much extra damage do crits do for a Kingdra, if it's holding a Dragon Scale and it loses Sniper?

3+2=5

Frosty · Dec 26th, 2012, 10:03:17 AM

The subref gets the KO Bonus UC from all KOs had on the battle, or only the ones under his watch?

So, if I subref a 6vs6 doubles with 10 KOs, but only reffed 6 of them, do i get 6/2 or 10/2 bonus UC?

TIO · Dec 26th, 2012, 10:24:16 AM

The last subref gets all the extra KO UCs, as stated in the Referee Resource Thread.

deadfox081 · Dec 27th, 2012, 8:51:40 PM

Can a Darmanitan be voluntarily put into Zen Mode at any stage in ASB?

Its_A_Random · Dec 27th, 2012, 10:22:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat deadfox081

Can a Darmanitan be voluntarily put into Zen Mode at any stage in ASB?

Not without arena effects, like the "Zen Mode is always active" effect in Gerard's gym.

Someoneelse · Dec 28th, 2012, 4:08:45 AM

If you evolve a Pokemon, can it learn and use its Pre-evolution's moves, e.g. I evolve Larvesta into Volcarona, can it use or learn Flare Blitz (not that I would, it's an example)?

Its_A_Random · Dec 28th, 2012, 4:25:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Someoneelse

If you evolve a Pokemon, can it learn and use its Pre-evolution's moves, e.g. I evolve Larvesta into Volcarona, can it use or learn Flare Blitz (not that I would, it's an example)?

Of course it can...in ASB.

DFrog · Dec 29th, 2012, 9:36:03 PM

How do you calculate a multihit combo move i.e. fury swipes + cut

Imanalt · Dec 29th, 2012, 9:38:32 PM

You calculate the number of hits, calculate the bap of the multihit move with that number of hits, then add on the other move

DFrog · Dec 29th, 2012, 9:44:36 PM

For example if that combo got two hits it would have 9 base power (4+5) then calculate the damage normally, is that right?

Objection · Dec 29th, 2012, 10:06:07 PM

Fury Swipes is 2 per hit, Cut is 5, so you'd use a base power of 2*2+5=9. Then you add the stuff like STAB, rank difference, etc. just like with any other damaging combo. Don't forget to check low power single-hit moves like Cut and Vine Whip for any combo boosts they might give.

ZhengTann · Dec 31st, 2012, 12:12:33 AM

Critical hits nullify Burn nerfs right, so what happens if, on a multi-hit attack (say a ~~Fursy~~ Fury Swipes that hits thrice), one of the hits netted a crit? Does it ignore Burn nerf completely, or must all 3 hits crit (which is ridiculously improbable) for it to happen?

Also there seems to be some disagreement about switching twice in a row in Switch = OK battles.

DFrog · Dec 31st, 2012, 3:25:28 PM

How does the accuracy drop from the dodge command work and is Dodge stopped by taunt?

Lets say the result of the dodge formula was 29 (rounded up) if the move that targets the dodging pokemon is normally 100% accurate then would the accuracy of the move now be 81%?

Another scenario is where the attacking pokemon has hustle and the accuracy of its attack is 80% (after hustle) would the 80% be decreased again by the dodge command or would dodge be taken into accound first, then the new accuracy is decreased by hustle?

waterwarrior · Dec 31st, 2012, 4:44:55 PM

1. EDIT: Motherfucker when did that happen @_@
2. The dodge formula is: Base Dodge + ((User's Speed - Opponent's Speed) / 5) + Accuracy boosting value from user's +Spe Nature / - 10EVA drop from -Spe Nature. The formula under Trick Room is in the DAT under universal commands.
3. All accuracy modifiers are factored in before the dodge command
4. Taunt prevents Dodge from being used, along with all the other commands.

**Elevator Music** · Dec 31st, 2012, 5:07:25 PM

Crits do ignore burn, check the critical hit section of the DAT.

Not sure about whether or not a single hit would cause the whole attack to ignore burn (or screens for that matter), but I'm inclined to say it should.

Frosty · Jan 1st, 2013, 10:58:05 AM

Let's say a mon uses protect and the opponent manages to break it with Thunder in Rain. If said mon uses protect on the following turn, will it fail?

Complications · Jan 1st, 2013, 11:15:40 AM

I'd imagine; the DAT just says that if Protect was used during the last action it fails, not if it succeeds on the previous action.

Someoneelse · Jan 1st, 2013, 3:22:43 PM

If a Pokemon has Normalize, does it boost every attack by 4BP or just the attacks that were previously Normal-type?

waterwarrior · Jan 1st, 2013, 3:30:37 PM

All attacking moves under the effects of Normalize will gain the +3 STAB bonus (assuming Normalize isn't Skill Swapped to a non-Normal type), but only moves that are Normal-typed before Normalize will gain the +4 BAP boost. For example, Flamethrower will still have 10 BAP while Headbutt will have 11 BAP under Normalize.

DFrog · Jan 4th, 2013, 3:22:47 PM

You can't evade a move like Heat Wave, with Evasive Agility right?

Dec 14th, 2012, 8:48:37 PM	#1101
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Dec 14th, 2012, 8:53:16 PM	#1102
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Dec 15th, 2012, 5:06:52 AM	#1104
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Dec 24th, 2012, 7:14:35 PM	#1105
TIO Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 734	http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3476209 How much extra damage do crits do for a Kingdra, if it's holding a Dragon Scale and it loses Sniper? __________________ My CAP ASB stuff is here.

Dec 26th, 2012, 10:03:17 AM	#1107
Frosty Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,157	The subref gets the KO Bonus UC from all KOs had on the battle, or only the ones under his watch? So, if I subref a 6vs6 doubles with 10 KOs, but only reffed 6 of them, do i get 6/2 or 10/2 bonus UC? __________________ ASB Profile

Dec 26th, 2012, 10:24:16 AM	#1108
TIO Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 734	The last subref gets all the extra KO UCs, as stated in the Referee Resource Thread. __________________ My CAP ASB stuff is here.

Dec 27th, 2012, 8:51:40 PM	#1109
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Dec 28th, 2012, 4:08:45 AM	#1111
Someoneelse Why am I here? Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 871 "aussieland"	If you evolve a Pokemon, can it learn and use its Pre-evolution's moves, e.g. I evolve Larvesta into Volcarona, can it use or learn Flare Blitz (not that I would, it's an example)? __________________ My ASB Team__________My Reffing Profile

Dec 29th, 2012, 9:36:03 PM	#1113
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Dec 29th, 2012, 9:38:32 PM	#1114
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Dec 29th, 2012, 9:44:36 PM	#1115
DFrog Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,168 What am I licking?	For example if that combo got two hits it would have 9 base power (4+5) then calculate the damage normally, is that right? __________________ Swapped to Dvorak ~ I will master it! Cool Stuff below: CAP ASB Referee Profile Last edited by DFrog; Dec 29th, 2012 at 10:05:22 PM.

Dec 29th, 2012, 10:06:07 PM	#1116
Objection Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 5,086	Fury Swipes is 2 per hit, Cut is 5, so you'd use a base power of 2*2+5=9. Then you add the stuff like STAB, rank difference, etc. just like with any other damaging combo. Don't forget to check low power single-hit moves like Cut and Vine Whip for any combo boosts they might give. __________________ <dogfish44> I got a suprise KFC ^.^ <Glacier> kinky fat chick? ASB profile, ASB pokemon, arena collection, unwritten ASB rulings (collected by Dogfish44), in-game effect order, and new CAP sprites

Dec 31st, 2012, 12:12:33 AM	#1117
ZhengTann Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 1,137 Malaysia, GMT +8	Critical hits nullify Burn nerfs right, so what happens if, on a multi-hit attack (say a ~~Fursy~~ Fury Swipes that hits thrice), one of the hits netted a crit? Does it ignore Burn nerf completely, or must all 3 hits crit (which is ridiculously improbable) for it to happen? Also there seems to be some disagreement about switching twice in a row in Switch = OK battles. __________________ <Birkal> if pwnemon was my little brother, I would beat some sense into him <Birkal> and then take him out for tea and scones <Birkal> and then we'd talk ASB and grow facial hair together <Birkal> like proper brothers ASB Player \| ASB Ref Last edited by ZhengTann; Dec 31st, 2012 at 5:14:55 AM.

Dec 31st, 2012, 3:25:28 PM	#1118
DFrog Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,168 What am I licking?	How does the accuracy drop from the dodge command work and is Dodge stopped by taunt? Lets say the result of the dodge formula was 29 (rounded up) if the move that targets the dodging pokemon is normally 100% accurate then would the accuracy of the move now be 81%? Another scenario is where the attacking pokemon has hustle and the accuracy of its attack is 80% (after hustle) would the 80% be decreased again by the dodge command or would dodge be taken into accound first, then the new accuracy is decreased by hustle? __________________ Swapped to Dvorak ~ I will master it! Cool Stuff below: CAP ASB Referee Profile

Dec 31st, 2012, 4:44:55 PM	#1119
waterwarrior Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 4,635 FREAKING UNICORNS ON FREAKING RAINBOWS	1. EDIT: Motherfucker when did that happen @_@ 2. The dodge formula is: Base Dodge + ((User's Speed - Opponent's Speed) / 5) + Accuracy boosting value from user's +Spe Nature / - 10EVA drop from -Spe Nature. The formula under Trick Room is in the DAT under universal commands. 3. All accuracy modifiers are factored in before the dodge command 4. Taunt prevents Dodge from being used, along with all the other commands. __________________ CAP ASB <Engineer> dw you should come to america <Engineer> where you can eat burgers and get fat <Destiny_Warrior> 9.9 engi * kingofburgerz [~cgiirc@synIRC-43958468.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #capasb** Last edited by waterwarrior; Dec 31st, 2012 at 5:34:22 PM.

Dec 31st, 2012, 5:07:25 PM	#1120
Elevator Music there is actually no underscore in my name Moderator Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 5,454	Crits do ignore burn, check the critical hit section of the DAT. Not sure about whether or not a single hit would cause the whole attack to ignore burn (or screens for that matter), but I'm inclined to say it should. __________________

Jan 1st, 2013, 10:58:05 AM	#1121
Frosty Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,157	Let's say a mon uses protect and the opponent manages to break it with Thunder in Rain. If said mon uses protect on the following turn, will it fail? __________________ ASB Profile

Jan 1st, 2013, 11:15:40 AM	#1122
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Jan 1st, 2013, 3:22:43 PM	#1123
Someoneelse Why am I here? Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 871 "aussieland"	If a Pokemon has Normalize, does it boost every attack by 4BP or just the attacks that were previously Normal-type? __________________ My ASB Team__________My Reffing Profile

Jan 1st, 2013, 3:30:37 PM	#1124
waterwarrior Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 4,635 FREAKING UNICORNS ON FREAKING RAINBOWS	All attacking moves under the effects of Normalize will gain the +3 STAB bonus (assuming Normalize isn't Skill Swapped to a non-Normal type), but only moves that are Normal-typed before Normalize will gain the +4 BAP boost. For example, Flamethrower will still have 10 BAP while Headbutt will have 11 BAP under Normalize. __________________ CAP ASB <Engineer> dw you should come to america <Engineer> where you can eat burgers and get fat <Destiny_Warrior> 9.9 engi * kingofburgerz [~cgiirc@synIRC-43958468.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #capasb**

Jan 4th, 2013, 3:22:47 PM	#1125
DFrog Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,168 What am I licking?	You can't evade a move like Heat Wave, with Evasive Agility right? __________________ Swapped to Dvorak ~ I will master it! Cool Stuff below: CAP ASB Referee Profile