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cantab · Dec 17th, 2012, 7:12:01 AM

Wailord knowing Dive, considering it's less dense than air. (Although arguably the "Why Game Freak? here is on the Pokedex heights and weights.)

Slowbro can learn Withdraw. Yeah, it does have a shell, but fitting in there is going to be quite some feat, especially as it's already occupied by a Shellder.

Block has been explicitly stating as involving the arms. Failing that I might expect it to involve general bulk to obstruct an enemy's path. This is not remotely reflected in its distribution, with Nosepass, Exeggcute, Forretress, and Cradily (who is rooted to the spot) being I think particularly egregious examples.

Organization Member XIV · Dec 17th, 2012, 7:40:48 AM

Blissey family getting Stealth Rock. I don't even...

Dallasboi1992 · Dec 17th, 2012, 9:06:13 AM

11 pages and nobody has brought up the brilliance that is MEGA KICK DUSKNOIR

thesynchrohero · Dec 17th, 2012, 4:08:40 PM

Did you know that Gamefreak stopped Dusknoir getting that by tutor ?

Geodude6 · Dec 17th, 2012, 4:17:00 PM

Dusclops gets it in FR/LG/E from tutor.

celever · Dec 17th, 2012, 4:21:38 PM

has 2 oddities, these are wood hammer and low kick!

Wood hammer: I know for a fact that abomasnow hits with his arms for wood hammer!

...

What do you suggest exeggutor does? Runs in head first, with a strand of his.. er.. leafy hair turning into a tree and hitting the opponent? :P

Low kick... he doesn't have legs. I mean, I know he has.. uh... stumps, but they're certainly not proper legs! If exeggutor gets this, then why not tyranitar? Why not metagross? (Come on, exeggutor isn't the agilest pokemon you've ever seen!) So why give it to Exeggutor and defy the laws of.. uh.. Kicking! :P

Dallasboi1992 · Dec 17th, 2012, 4:30:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Swamp-Rocket

This thing can learn Mega Kick.

I know Dusclops has feet but it pretty much shows that they didn't really plan this one out too much.

I don't get this thing's entire movepool to be honest.

EDIT:

Primeape can learn Iron Tail, but that is only half the problem. In Pokepark or whatever it was called, Primeape is the tutor for Pikachu's Iron Tail, and he legitamately says that "he mastered the move without even having a tail" or something like that. Active trolling.

Welp this makes my last post on here irrelevant. NINJASK'D!!!

But to me the fact that Groudon gets Sandstorm is hilarious. Ability sets up sun, but it can set up sand. LOL

The Agonist · Dec 17th, 2012, 7:36:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat celever

has 2 oddities, these are wood hammer and low kick!

Wood hammer: I know for a fact that abomasnow hits with his arms for wood hammer!

...

What do you suggest exeggutor does? Runs in head first, with a strand of his.. er.. leafy hair turning into a tree and hitting the opponent? :P

Low kick... he doesn't have legs. I mean, I know he has.. uh... stumps, but they're certainly not proper legs! If exeggutor gets this, then why not tyranitar? Why not metagross? (Come on, exeggutor isn't the agilest pokemon you've ever seen!) So why give it to Exeggutor and defy the laws of.. uh.. Kicking! :P

Tyranitar does get Low Kick.

The Cicada · Dec 17th, 2012, 8:19:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat cantab

Wailord knowing Dive, considering it's less dense than air. (Although arguably the "Why Game Freak? here is on the Pokedex heights and weights.)

Slowbro can learn Withdraw. Yeah, it does have a shell, but fitting in there is going to be quite some feat, especially as it's already occupied by a Shellder.

Block has been explicitly stating as involving the arms. Failing that I might expect it to involve general bulk to obstruct an enemy's path. This is not remotely reflected in its distribution, with Nosepass, Exeggcute, Forretress, and Cradily (who is rooted to the spot) being I think particularly egregious examples.

wairlord gets dive cause whales cant breathe unless under water

Organization Member XIV · Dec 17th, 2012, 8:20:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Organization Member XIV

Blissey family getting Stealth Rock. I don't even...

Far less sensical than Wailord Diving.

The Cicada · Dec 17th, 2012, 8:24:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Organization Member XIV

Far less sensical than Wailord Diving.

but it gots to breathe, eh?

Organization Member XIV · Dec 17th, 2012, 9:39:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat The Cicada

but it gots to breathe, eh?

Look pretty similar. Well, as similar as a Pokemon and actual animal can be anyway. Also,

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Originally Posted by Fat Wikipedia's Description

Sperm whales are believed to be able to reach 3 kilometres (1.9 mi) and remain submerged for 90 minutes.

So yeah. That's my opinion.

Nyara · Dec 17th, 2012, 10:41:12 PM

Well, Exeggutor do have legs and foots, so, he can perfectly do a low kick (you know what low kicks means). Metagross by other hand is a spider-like Pokémon, he needs it's four legs to keep the balance, so, he can't kick the opponent (other spider-like Pokémon can kick because they can jump, but Metagross can't jump).

Stealth Rock Chansey by other hand is pretty normal... On the anime and in general, there're two ways to "summon" Stealth Rocks, one is just grabbing rocks and throwing them, and the second is creating rocks using "special powers" (come on, this's Pokémon, they do have it) that around the field. Chansey can use a great variety of TM's, so, it's obvious she also have the special power to create Stealth Rocks.

TM13IceBeam · Dec 17th, 2012, 10:52:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat thesynchrohero

Did you know that Gamefreak stopped Dusknoir getting that by tutor ?

the mega kick tutor doesn't exist past FRLGE, so we don't know if dusknoir itself is even compatible.

The Agonist · Dec 17th, 2012, 11:13:06 PM

It can learn it through Dusclops, so it's compatible.

Nyara · Dec 17th, 2012, 11:34:36 PM

Well, that happens always, a Pokémon can know what it's pre-evos can know. How Butterfree can use Harden? Because it still rebember how to do that from the past, and try to mimic it with it's new body. I guess Dusknoir on place of kick with a leg, it just mimic as he's kicking, it's actually doing something similar to Body Slam, but with it's buttom part.

CabooseFTW · Dec 18th, 2012, 12:52:03 AM

Agreed. That's the only thing keeping us from Shell Smash Salamence.

Scepticallistic · Dec 18th, 2012, 1:27:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat The Cicada

wairlord gets dive cause whales cant breathe unless under water

Wailord manages to get his body underwater by pushing powerfully with its tail or swallowing weights or grabbing onto a sinking ship or something but more importantly I was so bothered by such an egregious claim that I had to post about it or my eye would have twitched right out of its socket.

Whales are mammals. Whales breathe air. Whales have to surface to breathe.

Hope you all will forgive me.

So this isn't entirely detracting, does anybody know the basis for Swords Dance? Is there a better explanation for how it does and what it does besides "magic"? Basically, what happens physically when a Jumpluff uses Swords Dance and why is its attacking prowess doubled?

cantab · Dec 18th, 2012, 1:41:05 AM

Since the fourth generation the description has been explicit that it's psychological, being "A frenetic dance to uplift the fighting spirit."

celever · Dec 18th, 2012, 1:53:16 AM

Well, in terms of Kabutops I think he literally dances with his swords while slashing them together throughout the routine, and this sharpens his blades so his attack goes up. I already put a post about swords dance Jumpluff earlier on (ninja'd!) but yeah. Other pokemon that learn it all have some kind of sharp object to make sharper, or just do with Kabutops does: Farfetch'd has a leek, Oshawott a scalchop... Well, actually, there are a load of weird pokemon who learn it by TM or breeding, but by level up it pretty much all makes sense, since the border-line for swords dance seems to pretty much be tiny claws (sandshrew) as long as they get more or bigger claws later (sandslash).

List of oddities (it always ends up handed out terribly once it becomes a tm...):

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Something interesting about this move though is that in pokemon XD; glaes of darkness on one of the battle CDs the game erroneously had a Machamp that knew swords dance:

TM13IceBeam · Dec 18th, 2012, 1:57:16 AM

well almost all grass-types are compatible with swords dance

why exactly grass types? idk, leaf blade?

celever · Dec 18th, 2012, 1:59:24 AM

I know, if they have lots of strands capable of a dance and can control the leaves to sharpen eachother. Oddish has 3 strands and I'm pretty cure he can't move them.

rocky505 · Dec 18th, 2012, 6:36:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat celever

I know, if they have lots of strands capable of a dance and can control the leaves to sharpen eachother. Oddish has 3 strands and I'm pretty cure he can't move them.

They act as ears similar to dogs. When an oddish is sad the leaves will be bent down. So yeah it can move them.

thesynchrohero · Dec 18th, 2012, 10:53:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Geodude6

Dusclops gets it in FR/LG/E from tutor.

Yeah, but can a tutor give DuskNOIR that move ?

Geodude6 · Dec 18th, 2012, 1:27:06 PM

Got me there. Kinda like Shell Smash Huntail/Gorebyss. They don't learn Shell Smash, but Clamperl does.

Dec 17th, 2012, 7:12:01 AM	#251
cantab Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 3,358 England	Wailord knowing Dive, considering it's less dense than air. (Although arguably the "Why Game Freak? here is on the Pokedex heights and weights.) Slowbro can learn Withdraw. Yeah, it does have a shell, but fitting in there is going to be quite some feat, especially as it's already occupied by a Shellder. Block has been explicitly stating as involving the arms. Failing that I might expect it to involve general bulk to obstruct an enemy's path. This is not remotely reflected in its distribution, with Nosepass, Exeggcute, Forretress, and Cradily (who is rooted to the spot) being I think particularly egregious examples. __________________ "If I may guess, Emboar might be an exception to the norm that the scalding liquid is expelled from the Pokémon's mouth" - Cobraroll, on Emboar learning Scald. "Nothing like a cup of tea to start off the day" - Professor Oak, EP025.

Dec 17th, 2012, 7:40:48 AM	#252
Organization Member XIV Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 622 On top of a giant dragon's back.	Blissey family getting Stealth Rock. I don't even... __________________ Bearkiller on PS, and bearhugger on IRC. I play League of Legends, so there's that. Also free Genesect plz. Me in real life.

Dec 17th, 2012, 10:41:12 PM	#263
Nyara Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 303 Chile > Santiago	Well, Exeggutor do have legs and foots, so, he can perfectly do a low kick (you know what low kicks means). Metagross by other hand is a spider-like Pokémon, he needs it's four legs to keep the balance, so, he can't kick the opponent (other spider-like Pokémon can kick because they can jump, but Metagross can't jump). Stealth Rock Chansey by other hand is pretty normal... On the anime and in general, there're two ways to "summon" Stealth Rocks, one is just grabbing rocks and throwing them, and the second is creating rocks using "special powers" (come on, this's Pokémon, they do have it) that around the field. Chansey can use a great variety of TM's, so, it's obvious she also have the special power to create Stealth Rocks. __________________ I love Caterpie, he's a so adorable little bug! ♥ (Also, sorry for my English, I'm still learning it and I'm not a native speaker).

Dec 17th, 2012, 11:13:06 PM	#265
The Agonist Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 2,041 Fuck fairies.	It can learn it through Dusclops, so it's compatible. __________________ # last.fm

Dec 17th, 2012, 11:34:36 PM	#266
Nyara Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 303 Chile > Santiago	Well, that happens always, a Pokémon can know what it's pre-evos can know. How Butterfree can use Harden? Because it still rebember how to do that from the past, and try to mimic it with it's new body. I guess Dusknoir on place of kick with a leg, it just mimic as he's kicking, it's actually doing something similar to Body Slam, but with it's buttom part. __________________ I love Caterpie, he's a so adorable little bug! ♥ (Also, sorry for my English, I'm still learning it and I'm not a native speaker).

Dec 17th, 2012, 9:06:13 AM	#253
Dallasboi1992 Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 51	11 pages and nobody has brought up the brilliance that is MEGA KICK DUSKNOIR

Dec 17th, 2012, 4:08:40 PM	#254
thesynchrohero Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 181	Did you know that Gamefreak stopped Dusknoir getting that by tutor ?

Dec 17th, 2012, 4:17:00 PM	#255
Geodude6 Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 589 Where it's Oct. 2013	Dusclops gets it in FR/LG/E from tutor.

Dec 17th, 2012, 4:21:38 PM	#256
celever Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,142 Merry old England	has 2 oddities, these are wood hammer and low kick! Wood hammer: I know for a fact that abomasnow hits with his arms for wood hammer! ... What do you suggest exeggutor does? Runs in head first, with a strand of his.. er.. leafy hair turning into a tree and hitting the opponent? :P Low kick... he doesn't have legs. I mean, I know he has.. uh... stumps, but they're certainly not proper legs! If exeggutor gets this, then why not tyranitar? Why not metagross? (Come on, exeggutor isn't the agilest pokemon you've ever seen!) So why give it to Exeggutor and defy the laws of.. uh.. Kicking! :P

Dec 18th, 2012, 12:52:03 AM	#267
CabooseFTW Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 116	Agreed. That's the only thing keeping us from Shell Smash Salamence.

Dec 18th, 2012, 1:41:05 AM	#269
cantab Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 3,358 England	Since the fourth generation the description has been explicit that it's psychological, being "A frenetic dance to uplift the fighting spirit." __________________ "If I may guess, Emboar might be an exception to the norm that the scalding liquid is expelled from the Pokémon's mouth" - Cobraroll, on Emboar learning Scald. "Nothing like a cup of tea to start off the day" - Professor Oak, EP025.

Dec 18th, 2012, 1:53:16 AM	#270
celever Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,142 Merry old England	Well, in terms of Kabutops I think he literally dances with his swords while slashing them together throughout the routine, and this sharpens his blades so his attack goes up. I already put a post about swords dance Jumpluff earlier on (ninja'd!) but yeah. Other pokemon that learn it all have some kind of sharp object to make sharper, or just do with Kabutops does: Farfetch'd has a leek, Oshawott a scalchop... Well, actually, there are a load of weird pokemon who learn it by TM or breeding, but by level up it pretty much all makes sense, since the border-line for swords dance seems to pretty much be tiny claws (sandshrew) as long as they get more or bigger claws later (sandslash). List of oddities (it always ends up handed out terribly once it becomes a tm...): ... Landorus Oddish Bellsprout Chikorita Bulbasaur Tentacool Lickitung Tangela Ledyba Bellossom Hoppip Celebi Lotad Shroomish Roelia Lileep Turtwig Budew Cherubi Toxicroak Carnivine Snover Lickylicky Rhypherior Tangrowth Darkrai Snivy Patrat Sawsbuck Mienfoo Groudon Something interesting about this move though is that in pokemon XD; glaes of darkness on one of the battle CDs the game erroneously had a Machamp that knew swords dance:

Dec 18th, 2012, 1:57:16 AM	#271
TM13IceBeam Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 3,247 stuck in the past, locked in the present, banned from the future	well almost all grass-types are compatible with swords dance why exactly grass types? idk, leaf blade? __________________ Start of turn 24 Natu used Grass Knot! It's super effective! The foe's Corsola lost 31% of its health! Riolu ftw Amazing Rotom-S is amazing KAKUNA i'm dead, don't bother contacting me

Dec 18th, 2012, 1:59:24 AM	#272
celever Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,142 Merry old England	I know, if they have lots of strands capable of a dance and can control the leaves to sharpen eachother. Oddish has 3 strands and I'm pretty cure he can't move them.

Dec 18th, 2012, 1:27:06 PM	#275
Geodude6 Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 589 Where it's Oct. 2013	Got me there. Kinda like Shell Smash Huntail/Gorebyss. They don't learn Shell Smash, but Clamperl does.