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Shokwav · Dec 31st, 2012, 11:33:44 PM

Actually, I wonder if he couldn't just use Modest? Are there any important (relevent) kills he misses out on with Rash?

Vemane · Dec 31st, 2012, 11:36:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Shokwav

Actually, I wonder if he couldn't just use Modest? Are there any important (relevent) kills he misses out on with Rash?

Considering he is using superpower, using modest would be a very bad idea, as it will have trouble breaking blissey and friends as is

LilOuOn · Dec 31st, 2012, 11:43:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Vemane

Considering he is using superpower, using rash would be a very bad idea

He means modest :]

Scarfwynaut · Jan 1st, 2013, 12:18:21 AM

I hate to say this, because its a terrible Blissey ev spread, but the most common bold 252 / 252 Blissey is never 2HKOed by life orb superpower from Thundurus-T and neither is Chansey.

LilOuOn · Jan 1st, 2013, 12:24:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Scarfwynaut

I hate to say this, because its a terrible Blissey ev spread, but the most common bold 252 / 252 Blissey is never 2HKOed by life orb superpower from Thundurus-T and neither is Chansey.

Here some calcs

68 Atk Life Orb Rash Thundurus-T Superpower vs 252 HP/252 Def Blissey (+Def) : 63.31% - 74.51%
2 hits to KO (with Leftovers)

68 Atk Life Orb Rash Thundurus-T Superpower vs 252 HP/252 Def Eviolite Chansey (+Def) : 46.88% - 55.4%
2-3 hits to KO

I think that he has an opportunity

lntegra · Jan 1st, 2013, 1:26:50 AM

how well does gliscor synch with Mienshao if I was looking for a lot of dmg output with both?

Shokwav · Jan 1st, 2013, 1:33:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat lntegra

how well does gliscor synch with Mienshao if I was looking for a lot of dmg output with both?

Truthfully there isn't much relation to the two; Mienshao is checked by mons such as Gengar, Gliscor/Landorus-t (depends if it has HP Ice), Latias, etc., and Gliscor does nothing to remove these threats. A better partner would probably be a strong pursuit user like Ttar or Scizor to trap and kill Ghost/Psychic types trying to kill Mienshao.

Scarfwynaut · Jan 1st, 2013, 1:38:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat LilOuOn

Here some calcs

68 Atk Life Orb Rash Thundurus-T Superpower vs 252 HP/252 Def Blissey (+Def) : 63.31% - 74.51%
2 hits to KO (with Leftovers)

68 Atk Life Orb Rash Thundurus-T Superpower vs 252 HP/252 Def Eviolite Chansey (+Def) : 46.88% - 55.4%
2-3 hits to KO

I think that he has an opportunity

While I do have to admit you are right about Blissey, it is not even close with Chansey, you need to do at the least 58.4% damage to Chansey to get a 2HKO with superpower due to the attack drop with rocks included, note how that Blissey caps at 55.4%, it will literally never 2HKO without a crit.

If 64 attack isn't added, like other users suggested, then Blissey survives about 31% of the time after rocks, it will never 2HKO without rocks. 64 attack only 2HKOs 31% of the time without rocks aswell.

Sciztar · Jan 1st, 2013, 2:10:13 AM

What notable Pokemon does the Adamant Breloom (252 Speed) outspeed?

Shokwav · Jan 1st, 2013, 2:18:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Sciztar

What notable Pokemon does the Adamant Breloom (252 Speed) outspeed?

Well, there's uninvested Jirachi.

Sciztar · Jan 1st, 2013, 2:21:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Shokwav

Well, there's uninvested Jirachi.

I mean who can Adamant Breloom outspeed and who can outspeed Breloom

Scarfwynaut · Jan 1st, 2013, 2:37:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Sciztar

What notable Pokemon does the Adamant Breloom (252 Speed) outspeed?

Compared to what? Here is the speed tiers from Ferrothorn to Breloom found here for future reference, I bolded relevant pokemon:

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It outspeeds: Ferrothorn, Forretress, Gastrodon, Conkeldurr, Hippowdon, Chansey, Donphan, Blissey, bu-scarfty, not-scarf-tyranitar, unboosted-dd-scrafty, non-scarf-magnezone, all scizors outside of offensive swords dance, non-offensive abomsnow, jellicent, metagross, skarmory, sup-punch-breloom, defensive Heatran, and 'defensive toxicroak'.

Onicon · Jan 1st, 2013, 7:17:46 AM

We have already been through that so I may sum up the most interesting facts, even when nobody has asked for:

What exactly is "notable to outspeed" for Breloom? Obviously everything you would not want to hit with Mach Punch. Those are Gastrodon, Conkeldurr, and Hippodown.
Scizor is an exception because it has a priority move for itself. Adamant Breelom only needs enough speed to outrun offensive SD Scizor (216 speed EV). The remeining 40 points are far from waste, though. If put into Def, they allow you to survive Mamoswine's Ice Shard. If SR are up, they reduce the probability of being OHKOed from 50% to 25%. Very useful, especially for those who run Fist Plates.
And do not bother trying to outrun uninvested Jirachi. According to the stats, the majority of Jirachis actually run enough to outspeed you, even the defensive ones.

Edit: Forgot defensive Politoed, Varporeon, Jellicent and defensive Xatu. Now it's better

TheSuperSaiyanBreloom · Jan 1st, 2013, 11:00:58 AM

Does anyone know how I can use my own animation pictures?

Shurtugal · Jan 1st, 2013, 11:05:30 AM

You have to post them on an online image host (like photobucket) in order to use images you own on your computer (since you can't upload from computer on smogon posts). #google :]

Arceus Nui · Jan 1st, 2013, 1:51:48 PM

What things outspeeds Heatran with a Modest nature with 252 AND 200 (I'd like both answers please) speed EVs, as opposed to max Speed Heatran (252 EVs and Timid)?

DrunkDemon · Jan 1st, 2013, 2:01:33 PM

From the Speed Tiers article.

Timid Heatran to max Modest Heatran

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Max Modest Tran to 220 Modest

...

ClubbingSealCub · Jan 1st, 2013, 2:05:52 PM

http://www.smogon.com/bw/articles/ouspeed_tiers

Gap between 252+ and 252 Heatran

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278 Heatran 77 +Spe 252 0
273 Smeargle 75 +Spe 252 0
270 Ninetales 100 Neutral 136 0
269 Toxicroak 85 Neutral 252 0
268 Whimsicott 116 Neutral 0 0
263 Ninetales 100 Neutral 108 0
262 Politoed, Breloom 70 +Spe 252 0
261 Gyarados 81 Neutral 252 0
259 Venusaur*, Mamoswine, Dragonite 80 Neutral 252 0
256 Latias* 110 Neutral 0 0
253 Heatran 77 Neutral 252 0

Gap between 252 Neutral and 200 Neutral Heatran

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253 Heatran 77 Neutral 252 0
251 Scizor 65 +Spe 252 0
250 Cloyster, Metagross 70 +Spe 208 0
249 Togekiss, Dragonite 80 Neutral 212 0
247 Kingdra 85 Neutral 164 0
245 Togekiss, Dragonite 80 Neutral 196 0
245 Heatran 77 Neutral 220 0
244 Celebi*, Zapdos 100 Neutral 32 0
244 Gliscor 95 Neutral 72 0
244 Rotom-A 86 Neutral 144 0
244 Gyarados 81 Neutral 184 0
244 Jirachi 100 Neutral 32 0
243 Tyranitar 61 +Spe 252 0
240 Tentacruel 100 Neutral 16 0 (speed tie)

Scarfwynaut · Jan 1st, 2013, 2:21:54 PM

Hey I have played almost 70 battles on PS and my rating never seems to get much over 1800, and the points I gain are not enough to cover the points I lose, should I just start a new alt?

LilOuOn · Jan 1st, 2013, 2:39:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Scarfwynaut

Hey I have played almost 70 battles on PS and my rating never seems to get much over 1800, and the points I gain are not enough to cover the points I lose, should I just start a new alt?

It must be because the opponents you find are low rated. Imagine that you have 1700 and you face a 1150s. You will gain +1 if you win and -50 or more if you lose...Just try to win every battle and good luck!

TheSuperSaiyanBreloom · Jan 1st, 2013, 5:09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Shurtugal

You have to post them on an online image host (like photobucket) in order to use images you own on your computer (since you can't upload from computer on smogon posts). #google :]

yeah but i don't know how to post the animation ones on there

**voodoo pimp** · Jan 1st, 2013, 5:38:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat TheSuperSaiyanBreloom

yeah but i don't know how to post the animation ones on there

Is it a .gif? Then it should work just like any other image.

LilOuOn · Jan 1st, 2013, 5:44:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat TheSuperSaiyanBreloom

yeah but i don't know how to post the animation ones on there

You can try this site: http://imgur.com/
Click the "Computer" button near to the Upload text on the right side.

TheSuperSaiyanBreloom · Jan 1st, 2013, 6:52:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat LilOuOn

You can try this site: http://imgur.com/
Click the "Computer" button near to the Upload text on the right side.

My bad. I should have phased it better. I need to know how to get the animation picture on my pc.

Shokwav · Jan 1st, 2013, 6:56:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Scarfwynaut

Hey I have played almost 70 battles on PS and my rating never seems to get much over 1800, and the points I gain are not enough to cover the points I lose, should I just start a new alt?

It also has to do with the decay factor (which someone told me is getting taken out, not sure on that though).

Dec 31st, 2012, 11:33:44 PM	#726
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Scarfwynaut Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 2,099 PA	I hate to say this, because its a terrible Blissey ev spread, but the most common bold 252 / 252 Blissey is never 2HKOed by life orb superpower from Thundurus-T and neither is Chansey. __________________ I am not Scarf Wynaut on Pokemon Showdown. I am PrincesoBubblegum

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Jan 1st, 2013, 7:17:46 AM	#738
Onicon Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 696	We have already been through that so I may sum up the most interesting facts, even when nobody has asked for: What exactly is "notable to outspeed" for Breloom? Obviously everything you would not want to hit with Mach Punch. Those are Gastrodon, Conkeldurr, and Hippodown. Scizor is an exception because it has a priority move for itself. Adamant Breelom only needs enough speed to outrun offensive SD Scizor (216 speed EV). The remeining 40 points are far from waste, though. If put into Def, they allow you to survive Mamoswine's Ice Shard. If SR are up, they reduce the probability of being OHKOed from 50% to 25%. Very useful, especially for those who run Fist Plates. And do not bother trying to outrun uninvested Jirachi. According to the stats, the majority of Jirachis actually run enough to outspeed you, even the defensive ones. Edit: Forgot defensive Politoed, Varporeon, Jellicent and defensive Xatu. Now it's better Last edited by Onicon; Jan 1st, 2013 at 8:13:36 AM.

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DrunkDemon Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 200 A Gansta's Paradise	From the Speed Tiers article. Timid Heatran to max Modest Heatran ... 278 Heatran 273 Smeargle 270 Ninetales 269 Toxicroak 268 Whimsicott 263 Ninetales 262 Politoed, Breloom +Spe 261 Gyarados 259 Venusaur, Mamoswine, Dragonite 256 Latias 253 Heatran Max Modest Tran to 220 Modest ... 251 Scizor +Spe 250 Cloyster, Metagross+Spe 249 Togekiss, Dragonite 247 Kingdra 245 Togekiss, Dragonite 245 Heatran __________________ Miep: The season finale is thirty minutes of Andrea's feet BobbyVaporeon: is it sexy Miep: No Miep: it's veiny Miep: and with crusty nails

Jan 1st, 2013, 2:21:54 PM	#744
Scarfwynaut Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 2,099 PA	Hey I have played almost 70 battles on PS and my rating never seems to get much over 1800, and the points I gain are not enough to cover the points I lose, should I just start a new alt? __________________ I am not Scarf Wynaut on Pokemon Showdown. I am PrincesoBubblegum