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**R_N** · Dec 30th, 2012, 2:20:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat KnivesInAToaster

..Rockets. That's kind of pushing it, honestly.

It's not literally a rocket with rocket fuel and such

Since it's a ghost it's probably ~spectral energy~ from its power core or something

Dallasboi1992 · Jan 2nd, 2013, 7:49:27 PM

So I was watching a Challenge Cup video & the guy's Solrock had SEISMIC TOSS. Anyone care to explain?

**R_N** · Jan 2nd, 2013, 8:28:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Dallasboi1992

So I was watching a Challenge Cup video & the guy's Solrock had SEISMIC TOSS. Anyone care to explain?

He hacked it in?

Dallasboi1992 · Jan 2nd, 2013, 9:03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat R_N

He hacked it in?

Yeah. Checked some places & Solrock doesn't get Seismic Toss. Guess it was a PO blooper.

thepkmnmaster · Jan 6th, 2013, 2:57:46 AM

I know Lickilicky with Power Whip kinda makes sense due to its tongue being used to whip, but it's still a Grass move...I mean really, Lickilicky's tongue on an Omastar is just as effective as Tangrowth's vine?

celever · Jan 6th, 2013, 5:21:08 AM

And why is Tangrowth's vine very effective on something with a rock hard shell which should deflect the hit anyway? Yeah, you didn't think of that did ya? :P

TM13IceBeam · Jan 6th, 2013, 6:12:09 AM

Theoretically speaking Steel-types should be immune to every physical move except fighting (which would have the power needed to break it)

Onicon · Jan 6th, 2013, 6:34:33 AM

Togekiss is the only Pokemon with Metronome without visible hands/fingers, apart frim Hitmonchan, maybe. Granted, it used to have hands, but why is it still able to learn Focus Punch and Drain Punch when it evolves?

...

The Agonist · Jan 6th, 2013, 9:46:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat TM13IceBeam

Theoretically speaking Steel-types should be immune to every physical move except fighting (which would have the power needed to break it)

Whenever I'm playing through RSE, and using an Aron, I always think that Zigzagoon or whatever should be taking recoil from using Headbutt on it. Or a concussion.

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Originally Posted by Fat Onicon

Togekiss is the only Pokemon with Metronome without visible hands/fingers, apart frim Hitmonchan, maybe. Granted, it used to have hands, but why is it still able to learn Focus Punch and Drain Punch when it evolves?

...

Maybe it uses its face.

**R_N** · Jan 6th, 2013, 2:20:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat The Agonist

Whenever I'm playing through RSE, and using an Aron, I always think that Zigzagoon or whatever should be taking recoil from using Headbutt on it. Or a concussion.

Maybe it uses its face.

or its huge flexible wings

The Knights of Wario Land · Jan 7th, 2013, 9:10:04 AM

Any Pokemon with Metronome. Imagine a little Cleffa violently exploding, a Snorlax shrinking in size, or a Miltank spouting sacred flames from its udders.

Seth Vilo · Jan 7th, 2013, 10:09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat TM13IceBeam

Theoretically speaking Steel-types should be immune to every physical move except fighting (which would have the power needed to break it)

I beg to differ. If you hit a steel sword with a rock for instance, it may take a while but that steel isn't coming out perfect. Also, look at what earthquakes do to our steel buildings. Steel bring just resistant to practically everything is much more logical then immune. Denting steel does damage; it doesn't have to be actually broken.

Antihaxxer · Jan 7th, 2013, 10:31:05 AM

Gliscor without Fly (For In game Purpose)
WHY Game Freak ? WHYYYYY ? :(

The Knights of Wario Land · Jan 7th, 2013, 10:41:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Antihaxxer

Gliscor without Fly (For In game Purpose)
WHY Game Freak ? WHYYYYY ? :(

Same goes for Yanmega.

Antihaxxer · Jan 7th, 2013, 11:01:08 AM

And Zubat gets Fly ... :D

Several Flying types should get Fly ... I know lots of Bug / Fly Pokemon can't really fly, but why giving them the Flying type ? Venomoth Dustox Beedrill can still fly like Butterfree Yanmega, but they don't have this Flying type. I think Mantine doesn't learn it too. Gliscor & Mantine are for me (But I can be wrong) the only Flying types (without Bug type) who doesn't learn Fly

Edit : I forget Delibird, Jumpluff, Gyarados and others

tl;dr => FLYing type = FLY
Bugs who don't learn FLY = No FLYing type

The Agonist · Jan 7th, 2013, 11:09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Antihaxxer

Gliscor without Fly (For In game Purpose)
WHY Game Freak ? WHYYYYY ? :(

Gliscor doesn't technically fly, it glides, which is why it can't learn it.

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Originally Posted by Fat The Knights of Wario Land

Same goes for Yanmega.

This doesn't make any sense, considering it's had at least one Pokedex description that says it's capable of carrying an adult-sized human on it's back.

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Originally Posted by Fat Antihaxxer

And Zubat gets Fly ... :D

Several Flying types should get Fly ... I know lots of Bug / Fly Pokemon can't really fly, but why giving them the Flying type ? Venomoth Dustox Beedrill can still fly like Butterfree Yanmega, but they don't have this Flying type. I think Mantine doesn't learn it too. Gliscor & Mantine are for me (But I can be wrong) the only Flying types (without Bug type) who doesn't learn Fly

Edit : I forget Delibird, Jumpluff, Gyarados and others

tl;dr => FLYing type = FLY
Bugs who don't learn FLY = No FLYing type

Zubat used to be unable to learn Fly. Part of the reason why it was probably added to its movepool was because it can take a while for Golbat to evolve completely (and finally be able to learn Fly). Gliscor and Mantine only glide, which is why they're not capable of proper flying. As for Butterfree, and Beedrill, it could be that they're not strong enough, or are too frail to safely carry a human. And Natu cannot learn fly.

Antihaxxer · Jan 7th, 2013, 11:14:29 AM

Well Gliding or Flying ... They're still Flying types :D

Xatu can learn Fly at least =)

The Agonist · Jan 7th, 2013, 11:21:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Antihaxxer

Well Gliding or Flying ... They're still Flying types :D

Xatu can learn Fly at least =)

Gliding is flying, but flying isn't gliding, if that makes sense.

Onicon · Jan 7th, 2013, 1:09:58 PM

Well, とぶ does mean something like flying, but also hop, jump, leap. That at least explains why Dodrio can learn it (jumps high!?) and Gilgar cannot. It glides, thus cannot gain altitude.

And I also realized that bugs cannot learn Fly, regardless of their sub-type.

frogoholic101 · Jan 7th, 2013, 1:15:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Onicon

Well, とぶ does mean something like flying, but also hop, jump, leap. That at least explains why Dodrio can learn it (jumps high!?) and Gilgar cannot. It glides, thus cannot gain altitude.

And I also realized that bugs cannot learn Fly, regardless of their sub-type.

Volcarona and Genesect can learn it. I understand the former but not the latter.

Onicon · Jan 7th, 2013, 1:33:48 PM

Forgot about Unova. But yeah, Genesect probably flies like Golurk: With jets.

celever · Jan 7th, 2013, 1:55:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Onicon

Well, とぶ does mean something like flying, but also hop, jump, leap. That at least explains why Dodrio can learn it (jumps high!?) and Gilgar cannot. It glides, thus cannot gain altitude.

And I also realized that bugs cannot learn Fly, regardless of their sub-type.

Mantine jumps just as high as Dodrio, why can he not learn fly then!?

Silver pokedex: Swimming freely in open seas, it may fly out of the water and over the waves if it builds up enough speed.

Marlon also learned how to jump by jumping with the Mantine that used to live in his village.

Onicon · Jan 7th, 2013, 2:02:37 PM

It learns Bounce at least. Pokemon not being able to leap that far are probably covered by that move. "Flying" probably means that they are jumping out of water like Flying Fish. Or like those.

Matezoide · Jan 7th, 2013, 3:40:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat frogoholic101

Volcarona and Genesect can learn it. I understand the former but not the latter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsypOWGPgPo

Also: Solarbeam Flareon.
Only fully-evolved fire type that cant learn it.

Why?

celever · Jan 7th, 2013, 3:45:37 PM

Ninetails and Rapidash learn solarbeam, and I am pretty sure Volcarona does as well.

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thepkmnmaster Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 19	I know Lickilicky with Power Whip kinda makes sense due to its tongue being used to whip, but it's still a Grass move...I mean really, Lickilicky's tongue on an Omastar is just as effective as Tangrowth's vine? __________________ "Time you enjoyed wasting is not wasted time." -T.S. Elliot

Jan 6th, 2013, 6:12:09 AM	#307
TM13IceBeam Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 3,247 stuck in the past, locked in the present, banned from the future	Theoretically speaking Steel-types should be immune to every physical move except fighting (which would have the power needed to break it) __________________ Start of turn 24 Natu used Grass Knot! It's super effective! The foe's Corsola lost 31% of its health! Riolu ftw Amazing Rotom-S is amazing KAKUNA i'm dead, don't bother contacting me

Jan 6th, 2013, 6:34:33 AM	#308
Onicon Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 696	Togekiss is the only Pokemon with Metronome without visible hands/fingers, apart frim Hitmonchan, maybe. Granted, it used to have hands, but why is it still able to learn Focus Punch and Drain Punch when it evolves? ... Crush Grip

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Jan 2nd, 2013, 7:49:27 PM	#302
Dallasboi1992 Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 50	So I was watching a Challenge Cup video & the guy's Solrock had SEISMIC TOSS. Anyone care to explain?

Jan 6th, 2013, 5:21:08 AM	#306
celever Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,091 On holiday right now	And why is Tangrowth's vine very effective on something with a rock hard shell which should deflect the hit anyway? Yeah, you didn't think of that did ya? :P

Jan 7th, 2013, 10:31:05 AM	#313
Antihaxxer Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 336	Gliscor without Fly (For In game Purpose) WHY Game Freak ? WHYYYYY ? :(

Jan 7th, 2013, 11:01:08 AM	#315
Antihaxxer Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 336	And Zubat gets Fly ... :D Several Flying types should get Fly ... I know lots of Bug / Fly Pokemon can't really fly, but why giving them the Flying type ? Venomoth Dustox Beedrill can still fly like Butterfree Yanmega, but they don't have this Flying type. I think Mantine doesn't learn it too. Gliscor & Mantine are for me (But I can be wrong) the only Flying types (without Bug type) who doesn't learn Fly Edit : I forget Delibird, Jumpluff, Gyarados and others tl;dr => FLYing type = FLY Bugs who don't learn FLY = No FLYing type

Jan 7th, 2013, 11:14:29 AM	#317
Antihaxxer Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 336	Well Gliding or Flying ... They're still Flying types :D Xatu can learn Fly at least =)

Jan 7th, 2013, 1:09:58 PM	#319
Onicon Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 696	Well, とぶ does mean something like flying, but also hop, jump, leap. That at least explains why Dodrio can learn it (jumps high!?) and Gilgar cannot. It glides, thus cannot gain altitude. And I also realized that bugs cannot learn Fly, regardless of their sub-type.

Jan 7th, 2013, 1:33:48 PM	#321
Onicon Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 696	Forgot about Unova. But yeah, Genesect probably flies like Golurk: With jets.

Jan 7th, 2013, 2:02:37 PM	#323
Onicon Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 696	It learns Bounce at least. Pokemon not being able to leap that far are probably covered by that move. "Flying" probably means that they are jumping out of water like Flying Fish. Or like those.

Jan 7th, 2013, 3:45:37 PM	#325
celever Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,091 On holiday right now	Ninetails and Rapidash learn solarbeam, and I am pretty sure Volcarona does as well.