Pokémon X and Y Discussion - Page 60

Halcyon of Light · Jan 13th, 2013, 3:40:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Quark

I actually feel that many first and second gen Pokemon don't need evolutions or pre-evolutions. There are only a handful of Pokemon from gen 1 which are still single stage, and I kinda hope that can persist. I feel as though some single stage Pokemon are necessary to help balance out the feel of the game from a non-competitive point of view.

That being said, I do feel that gen 3 could use some additional evolutions. I personally think that it would be awesome if sharpedo became a megalodon or ichthyosaur after learning ancient power. I would also like to see a fire/water dolphin with a heat vent on its back that evolves into a whale with a volcano or chain of volcanoes on its back.

YES TO SHARPEDO EVOLUTION. Hell, I'd be fine if he got a boosting move, something to make him slightly more useful. Seriously, all he and Yanmega really need are boosting moves to be fantastic. Knowing Game Freak, they would give Yanmega Swords Dance and Sharpedo Nasty Plot (although he could actually make some use of that).

Infernis · Jan 13th, 2013, 3:42:38 AM

Wailmer → Wailord → WAILCANO.

FIRE/WATER. ERUPTION/WATER SPOUT DUAL STABS. BASE 200 SPECIAL ATTACK. WEIGHS 3 POUNDS. ABILITY: SPEED BOOST. Calling it now.

That comment about an ability that changes 4x weaknesses to immunities would turn Water/Ground into an even better defensive type, methinks. Suddenly Quagsire would no longer require a tag-team Miltank.

CountBleck · Jan 13th, 2013, 3:45:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Halcyon of Light

YES TO SHARPEDO EVOLUTION. Hell, I'd be fine if he got a boosting move, something to make him slightly more useful. Seriously, all he and Yanmega really need are boosting moves to be fantastic. Knowing Game Freak, they would give Yanmega Swords Dance and Sharpedo Nasty Plot (although he could actually make some use of that).

I could dig a sharpedo evolution... but what exactly would we have him turning into?

Gokuzbu · Jan 13th, 2013, 3:48:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Infernis

Wailmer → Wailord → WAILCANO.

FIRE/WATER. ERUPTION/WATER SPOUT DUAL STABS. BASE 200 SPECIAL ATTACK. WEIGHS 3 POUNDS. ABILITY: SPEED BOOST. Calling it now.

That comment about an ability that changes 4x weaknesses to immunities would turn Water/Ground into an even better defensive type, methinks. Suddenly Quagsire would no longer require a tag-team Miltank.

That + Quagsire evolution. Yes please.

Yveltal · Jan 13th, 2013, 3:52:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Halcyon of Light

YES TO SHARPEDO EVOLUTION. Hell, I'd be fine if he got a boosting move, something to make him slightly more useful. Seriously, all he and Yanmega really need are boosting moves to be fantastic. Knowing Game Freak, they would give Yanmega Swords Dance and Sharpedo Nasty Plot (although he could actually make some use of that).

Sharpedo has higher ATK and Yanmega has higher SpAtk. Statistically at this point, each would get better utility out of the opposite suggested move :-|

unless MegaloSharpedo

...

suddenly gets a killer increase in SpAtk to balance it out in both manners of offense, Nasty Plot would only be ok on him.

As for HyperWailord

...

Massively increased defenses to turn it into a super wall would be much-loved by many childrens

Note: trololol highly unofficial pictures from fans and other shows are highly unofficial

Halcyon of Light · Jan 13th, 2013, 4:01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Yveltal

Sharpedo has higher ATK and Yanmega has higher SpAtk. Statistically at this point, each would get better utility out of the opposite suggested move :-|

That's the point. Knowing Game Freak, they would give them the wrong move just to troll us.

Ryanide · Jan 13th, 2013, 4:09:10 AM

I still want my Pachirisu evolution. A fast, bulky electric/flying type who gets Roost and has just enough special attack to do pachirisu's job better, pissing people off with super fang, thunder wave and volt turn.

CountBleck · Jan 13th, 2013, 4:17:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Ryanide

I still want my Pachirisu evolution. A fast, bulky electric/flying type who gets Roost and has just enough special attack to do pachirisu's job better, pissing people off with super fang, thunder wave and volt turn.

Pikachu clones are not allowed to evolve. They fix the "problem" that gamefreak created with the original pikachu. It Evolves into something that is not as cute. Problem solved pika clones have no evolution. sell all the plushies. It prints money etc.

Gokuzbu · Jan 13th, 2013, 4:25:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat CountBleck

Pikachu clones are not allowed to evolve. They fix the "problem" that gamefreak created with the original pikachu. It evovles into something that is not as cute. Problem solved pika clones have no evolution. sell all the plushies. It prints money etc.

What about a Raichu evolution that's even cuter

No

CountBleck · Jan 13th, 2013, 4:28:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Gokuzbu

What about a Raichu evolution that's even cuter

No

Only if it murders ash

**Mario With Lasers** · Jan 13th, 2013, 5:07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat CountBleck

Pikachu clones are not allowed to evolve. They fix the "problem" that gamefreak created with the original pikachu. It Evolves into something that is not as cute. Problem solved pika clones have no evolution. sell all the plushies. It prints money etc.

I can't see how Pachirisu evolving two generations after its debut would affect its cute factor.

CountBleck · Jan 13th, 2013, 5:17:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Mario With Lasers

I can't see how Pachirisu evolving two generations after its debut would affect its cute factor.

I'm not opposed to their evolution. I just think that their entire creation by gamefreak was to sell plushies.... and I don't think they care much about evolving them.
If they do though all the better though.

Lilligant562 · Jan 13th, 2013, 5:31:03 AM

A reliable psychic ATK with 100/100+ base power to counter the bulky fighters better?

More Defensive Pokes - maybe with Unaware - to weather last Gen's offensive derping, maybe with a nice ability to boot, like cancelling effects of held items while in play.

Few more OU/UU level GoodMons than the 5-6 we usually get per Gen, basically high BST's and good effectiveness.

^Please GameFreak?? Oh wait it's probably too late already. Maybe for Pkmn Z? =D

Lilligant562 · Jan 13th, 2013, 5:32:29 AM

At least the game *looks as good as it can do, and they've totally fixed the 'behind view' of the Sprites now. Animated battles (superior and more detailed to the Colossuem crap) are the way 2 goo!

Ryanide · Jan 13th, 2013, 5:37:34 AM

The only reason I want pachi to evolve is because compared to most of the other electric rodents, it actually looks cool, and it actually has 'interesting' stats. (For an electric type anyway)

sorta-Bulky and fast with laughable offenses. If it evolved, it'd become a fast, respectably tanky Pokemon with workable or just sub-optimal offenses most likely. There aren't many Pokemon who are both bulky and fast but lack offense. At least not compared to your regular slow walls and speedy sweepers.

Sadly Emolga took the spot as the flying squirrel pokemon, ruining Pachirisu's chances of turning into a flying squirrel. My original design for Pachirisu's evo was a flying squirrel based on the japanese youkai Nobusuma, a spirit that would take the form of a flying squirrel or a ghostly wall. I imagined Pachi's evo would spread it's arms out to form it's body into a 'wall' using the flaps of skin as a barrier. It would have totally made sense too if it weren't for those meddling kids.

Also before it slips my mind again, I love the cel shading on the Pokemon battle models. Not only is it smooth and effective at hiding the polygons, it also replicates Ken Sugimori's style with it's soft pallete and fine but simpistic shading approach. This is the closest in-game Pokemon have ever been to the official artworks.

Lilligant562 · Jan 13th, 2013, 5:42:00 AM

I don't get the love for the 2 'leading' Legendary's - they'll most definitely have Uber BST's, and so be unusable in OU and below.

Which basically makes them less useful than Watchog's dental-plan, lol.

NMx13 · Jan 13th, 2013, 6:03:36 AM

Just to point out difference between graphics of Pokemon XY and Pokedex 3D.
Which one do you prefer? I don't really know which one is "better" to be honest :/

Lilligant562 · Jan 13th, 2013, 6:59:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat NMx13

Just to point out difference between graphics of Pokemon XY and Pokedex 3D.
Which one do you prefer? I don't really know which one is "better" to be honest :/

I think the Cel-shading. Wind-waker showed how well it can express both mood and detailed animates. I always thought the Colloseum like models looked a bit 'dumbed down' basic and plastic.

In other 'I want GameFreak to do this *NoW*' - Cofigeragus to be modified to Ghost/Steel typing (pretty plz, with a Jigglypuff or 2 on top ^^)

SMZ · Jan 13th, 2013, 7:21:28 AM

Hey guys I just thought of something. Xerneas is deer-shaped and has fours swords as legs. It could have its own story to tie in with Yveltal, but what if it was also the "master"/ruler of the legendary musketeers? seems trivial, and I could be dead wrong, but interesting to think about never the less.

Organization Member XIV · Jan 13th, 2013, 7:26:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat SMZ

Hey guys I just thought of something. Xerneas is deer-shaped and has fours swords as legs. It could have its own story to tie in with Yveltal, but what if it was also the "master"/ruler of the legendary musketeers? seems trivial, and I could be dead wrong, but interesting to think about never the less.

I have said time and time again. Xerneas is their mother and Yveltal made the eggs with her/impregnated her. It's so obvious. Durr.

EDIT: Fail Lilligant.

Lilligant562 · Jan 13th, 2013, 7:33:47 AM

*OmG* Just thought of how the Legendary Genies would appear like in this version *faints and gets blown away by a Tornadus*

All can say is, More. Like. These. Please. Game. Freak.

Oh wait, I was supposed to have been fainted, oops.

Seneschal · Jan 13th, 2013, 8:36:03 AM

So I heard that the starters dual types are going to be Fire/Psychic, Water/Fighting and Grass/Dark, which would be very interesting. I wouldn't bet on it though, since I'm basing this speculation on this image, the source of which I don't know, so it could very easily be wild speculation itself:

The grass/dark thing is especially tenuous considering it's not even alluded to above, though it would make sense if the other two were psychic and fighting, since it would function as a reversal of the old grass>water>fire>grass type superiority.

TM13IceBeam · Jan 13th, 2013, 8:38:04 AM

Isn't Pin Missile a Bug-type move, which would make Chespin a Grass/Bug?

b2j135 · Jan 13th, 2013, 8:38:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat NMx13

*snip*

I dig the cel-shading better than the "realistic" look from Pokedex 3D for this game, it indeed does make it look more like the cartoon. But I also lve the Pokedex 3D Pro models so much better than the bullshit models from PBR, I mean Arcainine's mane looks like paper flowing in the wind, they finally fix that issue in Pokedex 3D Pro.

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Originally Posted by Fat Seneschal

*cut*

this isn't form Nintendo Power is it? I thought they were finished...where is this from?

Lilligant562 · Jan 13th, 2013, 8:52:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat TM13IceBeam

Isn't Pin Missile a Bug-type move, which would make Chespin a Grass/Bug?

>Rival appeared and wants to battle!
>Myself sent out Chespin! (Lv10) (only Poke still)
>Rival sends out Fennekin! (Lv10)
>Myself used 3DS power-button off attack!

Jan 13th, 2013, 4:09:10 AM	#1482
Ryanide Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 302	I still want my Pachirisu evolution. A fast, bulky electric/flying type who gets Roost and has just enough special attack to do pachirisu's job better, pissing people off with super fang, thunder wave and volt turn. __________________ It's safe to say that Mudkip dominates the meme metagame. With Bidoof being its only counter, and even then it can STILL use attract to make you like it.

Jan 13th, 2013, 5:37:34 AM	#1490
Ryanide Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 302	The only reason I want pachi to evolve is because compared to most of the other electric rodents, it actually looks cool, and it actually has 'interesting' stats. (For an electric type anyway) sorta-Bulky and fast with laughable offenses. If it evolved, it'd become a fast, respectably tanky Pokemon with workable or just sub-optimal offenses most likely. There aren't many Pokemon who are both bulky and fast but lack offense. At least not compared to your regular slow walls and speedy sweepers. Sadly Emolga took the spot as the flying squirrel pokemon, ruining Pachirisu's chances of turning into a flying squirrel. My original design for Pachirisu's evo was a flying squirrel based on the japanese youkai Nobusuma, a spirit that would take the form of a flying squirrel or a ghostly wall. I imagined Pachi's evo would spread it's arms out to form it's body into a 'wall' using the flaps of skin as a barrier. It would have totally made sense too if it weren't for those meddling kids. Also before it slips my mind again, I love the cel shading on the Pokemon battle models. Not only is it smooth and effective at hiding the polygons, it also replicates Ken Sugimori's style with it's soft pallete and fine but simpistic shading approach. This is the closest in-game Pokemon have ever been to the official artworks. __________________ It's safe to say that Mudkip dominates the meme metagame. With Bidoof being its only counter, and even then it can STILL use attract to make you like it.

Jan 13th, 2013, 6:03:36 AM	#1492
NMx13 Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 152 Finland, Helsinki	Just to point out difference between graphics of Pokemon XY and Pokedex 3D. Which one do you prefer? I don't really know which one is "better" to be honest :/ __________________ Best game of 2012: Zero Escape: Virtue's Last Reward

Jan 13th, 2013, 8:38:04 AM	#1498
TM13IceBeam Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 3,248 stuck in the past, locked in the present, banned from the future	Isn't Pin Missile a Bug-type move, which would make Chespin a Grass/Bug? __________________ Start of turn 24 Natu used Grass Knot! It's super effective! The foe's Corsola lost 31% of its health! Riolu ftw Amazing Rotom-S is amazing KAKUNA i'm dead, don't bother contacting me

Jan 13th, 2013, 3:42:38 AM	#1477
Infernis Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 536	Wailmer → Wailord → WAILCANO. FIRE/WATER. ERUPTION/WATER SPOUT DUAL STABS. BASE 200 SPECIAL ATTACK. WEIGHS 3 POUNDS. ABILITY: SPEED BOOST. Calling it now. That comment about an ability that changes 4x weaknesses to immunities would turn Water/Ground into an even better defensive type, methinks. Suddenly Quagsire would no longer require a tag-team Miltank.

Jan 13th, 2013, 5:31:03 AM	#1488
Lilligant562 Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 39	A reliable psychic ATK with 100/100+ base power to counter the bulky fighters better? More Defensive Pokes - maybe with Unaware - to weather last Gen's offensive derping, maybe with a nice ability to boot, like cancelling effects of held items while in play. Few more OU/UU level GoodMons than the 5-6 we usually get per Gen, basically high BST's and good effectiveness. ^Please GameFreak?? Oh wait it's probably too late already. Maybe for Pkmn Z? =D

Jan 13th, 2013, 5:32:29 AM	#1489
Lilligant562 Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 39	At least the game *looks as good as it can do, and they've totally fixed the 'behind view' of the Sprites now. Animated battles (superior and more detailed to the Colossuem crap) are the way 2 goo!

Jan 13th, 2013, 5:42:00 AM	#1491
Lilligant562 Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 39	I don't get the love for the 2 'leading' Legendary's - they'll most definitely have Uber BST's, and so be unusable in OU and below. Which basically makes them less useful than Watchog's dental-plan, lol.

Jan 13th, 2013, 7:21:28 AM	#1494
SMZ Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2,516 Kingdom of the Two Seas	Hey guys I just thought of something. Xerneas is deer-shaped and has fours swords as legs. It could have its own story to tie in with Yveltal, but what if it was also the "master"/ruler of the legendary musketeers? seems trivial, and I could be dead wrong, but interesting to think about never the less.

Jan 13th, 2013, 7:33:47 AM	#1496
Lilligant562 Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 39	OmG Just thought of how the Legendary Genies would appear like in this version faints and gets blown away by a Tornadus All can say is, More. Like. These. Please. Game. Freak. Oh wait, I was supposed to have been fainted, oops.

Jan 13th, 2013, 8:36:03 AM	#1497
Seneschal Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 96 London	So I heard that the starters dual types are going to be Fire/Psychic, Water/Fighting and Grass/Dark, which would be very interesting. I wouldn't bet on it though, since I'm basing this speculation on this image, the source of which I don't know, so it could very easily be wild speculation itself: The grass/dark thing is especially tenuous considering it's not even alluded to above, though it would make sense if the other two were psychic and fighting, since it would function as a reversal of the old grass>water>fire>grass type superiority.