Pokémon X and Y Discussion - Page 65

Yveltal · Jan 13th, 2013, 5:37:06 PM

I want a Grass Dragon because it's weaknesses and resistances alone would be out of this world!
Four regular weaknesses; Poison, Dragon, Flying, Bug
One super weakness(4x damage); Ice
One regular resistance; Ground
Three super resistances(.25x damage); Grass, Water, Electric
And neutral to eight types, meaning it doesn't get severely crippled by Dark, Steel or Psychic attacks, and Flamethrower ideally wouldn't OHKO or even 2HKO it.
And just think. it could learn Solar Beam and get Draco Meteor tutoring.

Halcyon of Light · Jan 13th, 2013, 5:40:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Ivysaurtrainer

no. no. no. let (Sm) be speed of move (scaled up to the pokemons level) and (Sp) be speed of the pokemon (current stat) ans (S) be overall speed

[(.333*Sm)+(.666*Sp)]=S

therefore, speedy pokemon dont go last and are really hard out run even with fast moves. that's their advantage, they can use stronger moves that can KO better first.

True that it will slightly affect sweepers in their ability to sweep. but that's a good thing

Then you change nothing, because all Pokemon would just start to use less powerful moves and the speed tiers would be pretty much exactly what they are now. If anything, you're making slower Pokemon even worse by forcing them to rely on weak moves. Please stop with this idea. It will never happen, and it isn't very good. It's way too complicated and it really doesn't do much of anything but cause an unnecessary amount of confusion.

Quark · Jan 13th, 2013, 5:43:32 PM

Grass/Dragon for the win!
I am just thinking that its design should be amazing. I personally feel like it should be based of a dinosaur, and I would love sending out a giant brontosaurus to fight.

Or it could be Xerneas. I guess that would be cool to :)

DeathCapsule · Jan 13th, 2013, 5:45:00 PM

What pokemon do you guys hope for?
I want:
A Dolphin: my gosh Game Freak! The closest thing we got to one is Lanturn!
Electric/Fighting: Again, there are several ideas storming in my head! A Mega-man/ generator combo is a certain one I want.
An Ice Squid: I really want one of these, perhaps a beanie cap on it's base form?
Poison/Steel: Particularly a trash can, that learns good moves but has poor attack and Sp. Attack but good defense stats
Lapras Pre-evo: Lapras seems too... Final evolution- like
An actual shadow of real pokemon: similar to the rumor between Clefable and Gengar, 2 new pokemon should be made one regular and a shadow version of it, or perhaps a pokemon that turns into a shadow with a held item

Flaming Piranha · Jan 13th, 2013, 5:46:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Halcyon of Light

So...like this?

I know that's not what you meant though ;p I too would like to see an electric/fighting type.

wow...completely forgot about Thunderus, haha. My image must have been indirectly influenced by Thunderus' design then

Yveltal · Jan 13th, 2013, 5:48:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Quark

Grass/Dragon for the win!
I am just thinking that its design should be amazing. I personally feel like it should be based of a dinosaur, and I would love sending out a giant brontosaurus to fight.

Or it could be Xerneas. I guess that would be cool to :)

Doth I detect a growing support campaign for a Grass-Dragon SuperTropius?
Because I'm totally on that bandwagon.

Flaming Piranha · Jan 13th, 2013, 5:55:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Yveltal

I want a Grass Dragon because it's weaknesses and resistances alone would be out of this world!
Four regular weaknesses; Poison, Dragon, Flying, Bug
One super weakness(4x damage); Ice
One regular resistance; Ground
Three super resistances(.25x damage); Grass, Water, Electric
And neutral to eight types, meaning it doesn't get severely crippled by Dark, Steel or Psychic attacks, and Flamethrower ideally wouldn't OHKO or even 2HKO it.
And just think. it could learn Solar Beam and get Draco Meteor tutoring.

And imagine that with Chlorophyll/Solar Power, HP Fire and growth, it would be an amazing sun sweeper

Flareon · Jan 13th, 2013, 5:57:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Yveltal

Doth I detect a growing support campaign for a Grass-Dragon SuperTropius?
Because I'm totally on that bandwagon.

+1 for SuperTropius.

Provided I get Flare Blitz, of course.

What about a Capybara pokemon? Raticate/Bibarel Evo?

Or a Sea Butterfly Water/Bug?

Here's something I'd like to happen, but probably won't: Introduce an additional Rotom Forme, a "TV" forme, where it has the same Base Stats as the other appliance forms, but it keeps it's Ghost/Electric typing, like in Platinum.

inanimate blob · Jan 13th, 2013, 5:58:38 PM

I want to see another Rock/Grass type, specifically an ironic Sudowoodo evo. You trade it holding the Sprayduck can, and it evolves into either a massive bonsai tree or a huge, petrified sequoia.

labarith · Jan 13th, 2013, 5:58:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat R_N

Still waiting on the Normal/Ghost Schrodinger's Cat pokemon, gamefreak

That would be pretty brilliant.

Ivysaurtrainer · Jan 13th, 2013, 5:59:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat DeathCapsule

What pokemon do you guys hope for?
I want:
A Dolphin: my gosh Game Freak! The closest thing we got to one is Lanturn!
Electric/Fighting: Again, there are several ideas storming in my head! A Mega-man/ generator combo is a certain one I want.
An Ice Squid: I really want one of these, perhaps a beanie cap on it's base form?
Poison/Steel: Particularly a trash can, that learns good moves but has poor attack and Sp. Attack but good defense stats
Lapras Pre-evo: Lapras seems too... Final evolution- like
An actual shadow of real pokemon: similar to the rumor between Clefable and Gengar, 2 new pokemon should be made one regular and a shadow version of it, or perhaps a pokemon that turns into a shadow with a held item

I want a panda, koala, cuddle fish, gorilla, a better elephant, komodo dragon,

and I want scyther to have a pre evo. that evolves into scyther and scizor

inanimate blob · Jan 13th, 2013, 6:01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Ivysaurtrainer

I want a panda, koala, cuddle fish, gorilla, a better elephant, komodo dragon,

and I want scyther to have a pre evo. that evolves into scyther and scizor

We have a panda, though.

Ivysaurtrainer · Jan 13th, 2013, 6:04:28 PM

That Abomination is no panda!

Dark Fallen Angel · Jan 13th, 2013, 6:06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Mario With Lasers

Tropius evo, Bananopius, Grass/Dragon, has Banana Meteor as its signature move.

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Originally Posted by Fat Mario With Lasers

This must be the third time I do this, but I'd love to see Water/Fire being based on the Boitatá. It could even learn Dragon Dance!!!11!!

A Pokémon based on a brazilian creature would be awesome (I am brazilian). This Water/Fire could have Electric coverage and an ability that negated weather, like that of Rayquaza. It would be the best check to weather sweepers, and could revenge kill all of them with the apropriate move. This Pokémon could also be a staple on weatherless teams for this reason. It could also have Water Absorb as an ability. Seriously, a Pokémon that is immune/double resistant to the 2 types that are boosted by weathers, is pretty much the most amazing thing that you can get on a weather-dominated metagame.

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Originally Posted by Fat Flaming Piranha

Grass/Dragon. This could be an interesting type, and I was hoping it was going to be Serperior's type before Black and White came out, but GameFreak let me down. This could possibly be Xerneas' type also, although it does look like it's part steel type.

A Dragon-type that could easily defeat Water-types would be amazing. The current Dragon-types can generally tank Water-type attacks without too much problems, but lack effective means of defeating bulky Water-types other than boosting their Dragon-type attacks, and OHKOing.

Another type combination that I hope is Ghost/Steel. Though it has already been discussed.

Apart from those, the combination that I hope more is Ice/Steel. Neutral to Stealth Rock, and resistant to Dragon, can easily defeat any Dragon-type, switching on their Outrages/Draco Meteors, and freezing them with its STAB Ice attacks. It would be unfortunately 4x weak to both Fire and Fighting, but this is easy to solve, ironically, with a Dragon-type partner, like Dragonite or Latias.

labarith · Jan 13th, 2013, 6:07:06 PM

Speaking of Spinda, we need some bug pokemon - either bees or butterflies - that take advantage of Spinda-tech to have, say, a dozen or so variations in wing or thorax colorscheme...

Eol · Jan 13th, 2013, 6:12:03 PM

Just kill IVs.

plz.

I think it would greatly open the wifi meatgame, when all you have to do is EV train (which is perfectly logical, possible if not easy to apply and still adds its touch of random to casual playthroughs).

IVs, on the other hand, are just cocksucking numbers spawn from hell that deliberately obligate us to spend countless hours on mindless bicycle runs to get THE perfect fucking egg. Made me want to quit pokémon forever.

inanimate blob · Jan 13th, 2013, 6:15:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Eol

Just kill IVs.

plz.

I think it would greatly open the wifi meatgame, when all you have to do is EV train (which is perfectly logical, possible if not easy to apply and still adds its touch of random to casual playthroughs).

IVs, on the other hand, are just cocksucking numbers spawn from hell that deliberately obligate us to spend countless hours on mindless bicycle runs to get THE perfect fucking egg. Made me want to quit pokémon forever.

But but but

Hidden Power. D:

Dark Fallen Angel · Jan 13th, 2013, 6:15:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Eol

Just kill IVs.

plz.

I think it would greatly open the wifi meatgame, when all you have to do is EV train (which is perfectly logical, possible if not easy to apply and still adds its touch of random to casual playthroughs).

IVs, on the other hand, are just cocksucking numbers spawn from hell that deliberately obligate us to spend countless hours on mindless bicycle runs to get THE perfect fucking egg. Made me want to quit pokémon forever.

This could made sense if they really introduced the new Saint type. They would have to change the IV mechanics anyway, because of Hidden Power. However, this could make incompatible the transference of Gen V Pokémon to Gen VI. It would really, however, greatly encourage playing on normal games instead of playing on simulators. This is not to say that I like this idea. IVs are needed because of Hidden Power, but they could then just change the way how Hidden Power type is determined.

Garagara · Jan 13th, 2013, 6:16:37 PM

Here's a list of every type combo that hasn't been done, for poops and giggles;

Normal/ice
Normal/Poison
Normal/ground
Normal/bug
Normal/rock
Normal/ghost
Normal/dragon
Normal/dark
Normal/steel
Fire/water
Fire/grass
Fire/ice
Fire/poison
Electric/Fighting
Electric/poison
Electric/Psychic
Electric/Rock
Electric/dark?
Grass/ghost
Grass/dragon
Ice/fighting
Ice/poison
Ice/bug
Ice/rock
Ice/steel
Fighting/ground
Fighting/Flying
Fighting/Ghost
Fighting/dragon
Poison/psychic
Poison/rock
Poison/dragon
Poison/steel
Psychic/bug
Psychic/Ghost
Psychic/dark
Bug/Dragon
Rock/Ghost
Rock/dragon
Ghost/steel

There's actually not very many, only 40. This is counting some that maaaaybe shouldn't be counted, like surskit and nincada.

inanimate blob · Jan 13th, 2013, 6:21:25 PM

I really want to have Water be paired with the Fire-type to soothe my mild OCD. Besides that, the other type I want completely filled is Grass...I mean, why can't we have had a Grass/Ghost or Grass/Dragon or Grass/Fire by now? They seem fairly easy to create.

Basileus · Jan 13th, 2013, 6:25:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat DeathCapsule

What pokemon do you guys hope for?
I want:
A Dolphin: my gosh Game Freak! The closest thing we got to one is Lanturn!
Electric/Fighting: Again, there are several ideas storming in my head! A Mega-man/ generator combo is a certain one I want.
An Ice Squid: I really want one of these, perhaps a beanie cap on it's base form?
Poison/Steel: Particularly a trash can, that learns good moves but has poor attack and Sp. Attack but good defense stats
Lapras Pre-evo: Lapras seems too... Final evolution- like
An actual shadow of real pokemon: similar to the rumor between Clefable and Gengar, 2 new pokemon should be made one regular and a shadow version of it, or perhaps a pokemon that turns into a shadow with a held item

I would love to see more electric and fire type pokemon, I feel like there are so few viable electric pokemon nowadays. Maybe a few more dark types to...

Pokemasta77 · Jan 13th, 2013, 6:39:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Yveltal

Doth I detect a growing support campaign for a Grass-Dragon SuperTropius?
Because I'm totally on that bandwagon.

I second this!

j-squared · Jan 13th, 2013, 6:42:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Garagara

Here's a list of every type combo that hasn't been done, for poops and giggles;

Normal/ice
Normal/Poison
Normal/ground
Normal/bug
Normal/rock
Normal/ghost
Normal/dragon
Normal/dark
Normal/steel
Fire/water
Fire/grass
Fire/ice
Fire/poison
Electric/Fighting
Electric/poison
Electric/Psychic
Electric/Rock
Electric/dark?
Grass/ghost
Grass/dragon
Ice/fighting
Ice/poison
Ice/bug
Ice/rock
Ice/steel
Fighting/ground
Fighting/Flying
Fighting/Ghost
Fighting/dragon
Poison/psychic
Poison/rock
Poison/dragon
Poison/steel
Psychic/bug
Psychic/Ghost
Psychic/dark
Bug/Dragon
Rock/Ghost
Rock/dragon
Ghost/steel

There's actually not very many, only 40. This is counting some that maaaaybe shouldn't be counted, like surskit and nincada.

Your list is missing some, just off the top of my head: Normal/Electric and Bug/Dark. I'm sure there are more you are missing.

iKinkajou · Jan 13th, 2013, 6:56:24 PM

No doubt that this has been said before, but Froakie looks a lot like Benjamin Franklin. The game also happens to look like Pariz, a city Benjamin Franklin often visited in the American revolution. He also discovered the LIGHTning was not FIRE but rather a form of ELECTRICITY. He also part of the Americans FIGHTING the British.

Froakie confirmed water/light/electric type.

Pokemon confirmed trytypes

TaiCrunch · Jan 13th, 2013, 6:57:47 PM

Oh oh! A normal/ghost shaman Pokemon! They could base the design off A Native American jaguar spirit. Or Rafiki.

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Jan 13th, 2013, 6:21:25 PM	#1620
inanimate blob Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 1,114 Wherever the food is.	I really want to have Water be paired with the Fire-type to soothe my mild OCD. Besides that, the other type I want completely filled is Grass...I mean, why can't we have had a Grass/Ghost or Grass/Dragon or Grass/Fire by now? They seem fairly easy to create. __________________ Yeah! ASB Team! Battle Hall Thread! Battle Factory Team! Reffing Profile! Also, check out my fly letter on the Join Avenue! Really decreased activity for the next week or two due to APs and finals. Hey look, I'm adding to my workload with a Scramble.

Jan 13th, 2013, 6:56:24 PM	#1624
iKinkajou Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 50	No doubt that this has been said before, but Froakie looks a lot like Benjamin Franklin. The game also happens to look like Pariz, a city Benjamin Franklin often visited in the American revolution. He also discovered the LIGHTning was not FIRE but rather a form of ELECTRICITY. He also part of the Americans FIGHTING the British. Froakie confirmed water/light/electric type. Pokemon confirmed trytypes __________________ I SWEPT WITH A RELAXED HIPPOWDON!

Jan 13th, 2013, 5:37:06 PM	#1601
Yveltal I could be banned! Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 620 From the House of Precious	I want a Grass Dragon because it's weaknesses and resistances alone would be out of this world! Four regular weaknesses; Poison, Dragon, Flying, Bug One super weakness(4x damage); Ice One regular resistance; Ground Three super resistances(.25x damage); Grass, Water, Electric And neutral to eight types, meaning it doesn't get severely crippled by Dark, Steel or Psychic attacks, and Flamethrower ideally wouldn't OHKO or even 2HKO it. And just think. it could learn Solar Beam and get Draco Meteor tutoring.

Jan 13th, 2013, 5:43:32 PM	#1603
Quark Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 48 In my secret base, it's a secret.	Grass/Dragon for the win! I am just thinking that its design should be amazing. I personally feel like it should be based of a dinosaur, and I would love sending out a giant brontosaurus to fight. Or it could be Xerneas. I guess that would be cool to :)

Jan 13th, 2013, 5:45:00 PM	#1604
DeathCapsule Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 5	What pokemon do you guys hope for? I want: A Dolphin: my gosh Game Freak! The closest thing we got to one is Lanturn! Electric/Fighting: Again, there are several ideas storming in my head! A Mega-man/ generator combo is a certain one I want. An Ice Squid: I really want one of these, perhaps a beanie cap on it's base form? Poison/Steel: Particularly a trash can, that learns good moves but has poor attack and Sp. Attack but good defense stats Lapras Pre-evo: Lapras seems too... Final evolution- like An actual shadow of real pokemon: similar to the rumor between Clefable and Gengar, 2 new pokemon should be made one regular and a shadow version of it, or perhaps a pokemon that turns into a shadow with a held item

Jan 13th, 2013, 6:04:28 PM	#1613
Ivysaurtrainer Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 69	That Abomination is no panda!

Jan 13th, 2013, 6:12:03 PM	#1616
Eol Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 47	Just kill IVs. plz. I think it would greatly open the wifi meatgame, when all you have to do is EV train (which is perfectly logical, possible if not easy to apply and still adds its touch of random to casual playthroughs). IVs, on the other hand, are just cocksucking numbers spawn from hell that deliberately obligate us to spend countless hours on mindless bicycle runs to get THE perfect fucking egg. Made me want to quit pokémon forever.

Jan 13th, 2013, 6:16:37 PM	#1619
Garagara Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 224 Dawson Creek, BC	Here's a list of every type combo that hasn't been done, for poops and giggles; Normal/ice Normal/Poison Normal/ground Normal/bug Normal/rock Normal/ghost Normal/dragon Normal/dark Normal/steel Fire/water Fire/grass Fire/ice Fire/poison Electric/Fighting Electric/poison Electric/Psychic Electric/Rock Electric/dark? Grass/ghost Grass/dragon Ice/fighting Ice/poison Ice/bug Ice/rock Ice/steel Fighting/ground Fighting/Flying Fighting/Ghost Fighting/dragon Poison/psychic Poison/rock Poison/dragon Poison/steel Psychic/bug Psychic/Ghost Psychic/dark Bug/Dragon Rock/Ghost Rock/dragon Ghost/steel There's actually not very many, only 40. This is counting some that maaaaybe shouldn't be counted, like surskit and nincada.

Jan 13th, 2013, 6:57:47 PM	#1625
TaiCrunch Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 612 Tennessee	Oh oh! A normal/ghost shaman Pokemon! They could base the design off A Native American jaguar spirit. Or Rafiki.