Rating Basics - Page 12

Mr. Green · Jan 5th, 2013, 2:56:09 AM

Thank you for your feedback

I'm commented this two teams:

http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3477002

http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3476995

Neliel · Jan 5th, 2013, 7:16:05 AM

not sure if i was enough clear or the changes i did were necessary at all

Mr. Green · Jan 6th, 2013, 4:58:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Mr. Green

Thank you for your feedback

I'm commented this two teams:

http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3477002

http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3476995

and This : http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3477026 and this: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3477044

San_Pellegrino · Jan 6th, 2013, 12:30:01 PM

Mr. Green, I think you've doing well in identifying threats and giving solutions. One suggestion I have is giving the team builder reasons for why your set/pokemon is not only good for his team (which you're doing already), but also why it is better than than the set/pokemon you are replacing. And don't be afraid to make changes. If you see something that will genuinely help the builder's team, make the suggestion.

Neliel, fantastic rate. Never feel like a change you made was unnecessary. As long as you have a substantial reason for making the change, it is something worthwhile to mention, and gives the team builder a new, creative perspective on how to fix his team than the cookie cutter suggestions others might give. I felt it was pretty clear (bar a few parts which i'll explain). you never explained what new thing you were adding to beat latios after scizor lost pursuit. also, always be fairly certain of yourself when rating. defend your choice and be to the point (e.g. for keldeo don't say maybe hp ghost or ice, just say "use hp ghost because dragons aren't a problem anymore with mamow/scizorwhatever so hp ice is useless"), this will make your rates shorter and give them more more impact.

hope i helped you guys

Mr. Green · Jan 6th, 2013, 1:17:37 PM

Okay, keep in mind what you said to me, thank you very much ^ ^

I'm rated this: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3477049

Neliel · Jan 6th, 2013, 3:59:12 PM

Thank you :)

Now that you remember me i didnt said anything to beat scarflatios because honestly i didnt think he was weak to it with scizor and mamoswine and scarf gengar which can tie.. thank you very much for your comment anyway! ^^

Mr. Green · Jan 7th, 2013, 8:44:01 AM

I'm rated three teams!

http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3477049

http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3477109

http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3477101

Dr Ciel · Jan 7th, 2013, 9:57:15 AM

Okay, so I rated 3 teams in the past few days and here they are.

One

Two

Three

Did a 4th one just today as well.

Here

Mr. Green · Jan 7th, 2013, 12:49:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Mr. Green

I'm rated three teams!

http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3477049

http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3477109

http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3477101

and this http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3477068 and this http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4531786

Trinitrotoluene · Jan 8th, 2013, 11:38:32 AM

Alright Dr Ciel. Your first three rates are good (considering the ~~subpar~~ quality of some of the teams that are being rated), but your fourth rate irks me. Most of it is good, but your suggestion of ScarfTar over his Hippowdon doesn't seem to help his team. You mentioned that it could be used to revenge kill Latios, Starmie, Volcarona, and unboosted Lucario, among some other threats, but the dude already had answers to them. Heatran demolishes Latios, and Celebi keeps Starmie on its toes. His Stoutland (thanks to your excellent suggestion of CB over Life Orb) can be used to take Volcarona and the previous threats apart, and Lucario could be handled with a combination of Hippowdon and Skarmory. Despite my rant on that one small point though, I really think that your rates are solid Dr Ciel. Keep them up!

Dr Ciel · Jan 8th, 2013, 11:48:04 AM

Alright, thanks for all the help! Will keep trying.

Alexander. · Jan 9th, 2013, 9:28:30 AM

I rated some teams in the past days, here's the rates:

One

Two

Three

Four

Thanks in advance!

Mr. Green · Jan 9th, 2013, 2:02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Mr. Green

Thank you for your feedback

I'm commented this two teams:

http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3477002

http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3476995

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Mr. Green

and this http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3477068 and this http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4531786

Another http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3477228 an this http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthr...=1#post4534975 and this http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3477306 and this http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3477328

Shurtugal · Jan 11th, 2013, 8:09:26 PM

Here are few rates of mine:

1
2
3
4
5

Thanks! Linked on iPod so I hope they work!

Dr Ciel · Jan 11th, 2013, 9:38:18 PM

Rated 2 more.

One

Two

~~BattleStar~~ · Jan 11th, 2013, 10:13:50 PM

Hi I am relatively new to RMT. I in the past posted two RMTs for RU but that's about all. The last couple days I have started rating teams. I would love any advice and continue to rate teams.

My first rate

second Rate(RU)

Third Rate

Third Rate

Silvershadow234 · Jan 12th, 2013, 6:15:47 AM

Hi BattleStar. I'm not too good with OU rates, but I can help you with your RU rate.

You found the big weakness to Nidoqueen which was great, and Timid Nidoqueen would have fixed that problem. However, Timid Nidoqueen isn't that good at wallbreaking and misses out on some pretty key KO's iirc. Running max speed on Feraligatr would have solved the issue much more easily, as it still performs its job which is sweeping, and the added bulk isn't all that relevant for gatr, as it is already decently bulky. You could also have pointed out what was wrong with the rotom set, as thunder wave is used on an expert belt set not Choice Scarf, and locking yourself into Thunder Wave is not a great idea and doesn't help rotom with it's normal counters, such as Ferroseed. You could have expanded on why Entei could fit his team better as well.

Although I'm not too solid on OU, I'm going to try and help with your OU rates. On the first rate, Aerial Ace over Pursuit wasn't a great idea IMO, as Bullet Punch dents Breloom a fair bit anyway. Anything other than Scarf Breloom is dealt with fairly easily by Latias and Tornadus-T, and Scarf loom is fairly uncommon(only 1% of breloom are Choice Scarf). You could have said that running Sleep Talk on Tornadus-t would help with breloom though, as then it can absorb the spore and hit it hard with Hurricane or switch out with U-turn, and it gives him a nice sleep absorber. As for Pursuit on Scizor, Pursuit helps him to get rid of the vast majority of Keldeo's counters, such as Celebi and Latias.

I have no idea about OU hail, so I'll leave that to the OU raters. But keep on rating BattleStar. You seem to be able to find the weaknesses within a team, it's just finding ways to fix it, but I'm sure you'll improve with practise.

Mr. Green · Jan 13th, 2013, 3:25:28 AM

I'm rated this teams!^^

http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3477367

http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3477409

http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3477424

http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3477376

http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3477306

Neliel · Jan 13th, 2013, 5:31:50 AM

@mr. green

First, i would like you to read this. Here tab explain one of the mistake you do sometimes when you rate. In trhe of your five rate, you suggested specially defensive rotom-w for example, which is obviously a great pokemon but not the only way to go to check rain teams and torn-t. I mean, its good to do so, but if you think this way you will have to put a rotom-w in almost every team that lacks of jirachi, and its not the best way to rate. Rating a team only thinking about the switch-ins he lacks its quite pointless, half of the metagame has not true counter so you cant just slap a lando-t in every team to check terrakion (this is just an example). You have to take in mind which strategy does the team have, and think how your change modifies his strategy. If the team is so offensive that a tornadus cant even switch in one time, maybe a cb zor is enough to check the bird, while a specially defensive jirachi will just ruin his offensive team.

Now i think your rates were overall good, the suggestions you made were correct, (obviously i cant enter in the merit of all the 5 rates) but sometimes it seems like you are just suggesting the standard set of each pokemon, which can be done for sure but with all the options this game has to offer, i think you can do a better job suggesting more "creative" things or something like that. Also, i think you can do a better job to the format of your rates, you can just do a new paragraph for every change you want to do, it makes the rate easier to read. Anyway, keep it up, you are doing a nice work!

Mr. Green · Jan 13th, 2013, 5:49:35 AM

Nel :)

thx for your suggestions!

Jimbon · Jan 13th, 2013, 12:57:40 PM

@ BattleStar: Looking over your first rate, the first thing I noticed was how you went about making suggested changes to the team. The threat you identified to this guy's team was Scarf Breloom, something that you're really only going to see 1/100 battles. If you're going to rate a team, then you should try to look at the more common threats to that team, which in this case would be Scarf / Agility Thundurus-T, Mamoswine, Tornadus-T and Dragons which are all much more relevant and threatening to this guys team. If you're ever unsure of what to look for when rating a team, have a look at the most recent usage stats and the moveset statistics, and see what sets are the most common. As a result your changes were kind of in vein as he doesn't really need to change anything to specifically deal with Breloom, given that everything on his team checks it. Also the changes you made weren't really that effective. Losing Pursuit on Scizor further increases his Latios / Latias weakness, and given that Scizor is his only Dragon resist he'll have a lot of trouble trying to beat either of these, especially Scarf sets.

Moving onto your second OU rate, I had mixed opinions on this. I would agree that maybe Tentacruel isn't the best fit for his team and that Starmie might be better, especially given his pretty big weakness to Rain. As for your suggested Gengar change, I think that was a little random, as Gengar doesn't really have a lot of use for his team. You talk about Gengar being a good Terrakion counter and Spinblocker, when his team doesn't even have hazards and Gengar is not a Terrakion counter, as it is dying upon switching into Stone Edge. It seemed like you were making these changes based on the assumption that this guys team was weak to Terrakion, when it really wasn't. The OP already has Gliscor and Reuniclus for Terrakion, not to mention Tentacruel which you considered changing aswell. If a team is not weak to a certain Pokemon, then you shouldn't try to add another Pokemon specifically chosen to the Pokemon in question. The OP doesn't need a Claydol / Golurk / Nidoqueen / Tangrowth / whatever to beat Terrakion when he has solid answers for it.

I don't have much time so I'm not going to comment on your third rate, but a lot of your problems lie with the fact that you're trying to make the team fare better against Pokemon that aren't even threatening to the team in question. If you really are stuck on how to identify threats, then scroll through a threat list / usage stats to see which Pokemon in particular are threatening to each team, otherwise you're just making redundant changes that remove other Pokemon within a team that perform a certain role, which can be detrimental to the team.

Mr. Green · Jan 14th, 2013, 6:26:13 AM

i'm rated three teams!

http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3477453

http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3477480

http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthr...42#post4540442

Dr Ciel · Jan 14th, 2013, 8:55:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Dr Ciel

Rated 2 more.

One

Two

Also This

Another

Mosquiton · Jan 14th, 2013, 9:38:38 AM

Alexander. · Jan 14th, 2013, 9:48:48 AM

I rated 2 more:

One

Two

Jan 5th, 2013, 2:56:09 AM	#276
Mr. Green Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 143 Italy	Thank you for your feedback I'm commented this two teams: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3477002 http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3476995 Last edited by Mr. Green; Jan 5th, 2013 at 6:04:13 AM.

Jan 5th, 2013, 7:16:05 AM	#277
Neliel Victors must always speak of the way the world should be, not the way it is. Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 475 Mentor	not sure if i was enough clear or the changes i did were necessary at all __________________ Check out team of the week!

Jan 6th, 2013, 12:30:01 PM	#279
San_Pellegrino the eternal dreamer Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,600	Mr. Green, I think you've doing well in identifying threats and giving solutions. One suggestion I have is giving the team builder reasons for why your set/pokemon is not only good for his team (which you're doing already), but also why it is better than than the set/pokemon you are replacing. And don't be afraid to make changes. If you see something that will genuinely help the builder's team, make the suggestion. Neliel, fantastic rate. Never feel like a change you made was unnecessary. As long as you have a substantial reason for making the change, it is something worthwhile to mention, and gives the team builder a new, creative perspective on how to fix his team than the cookie cutter suggestions others might give. I felt it was pretty clear (bar a few parts which i'll explain). you never explained what new thing you were adding to beat latios after scizor lost pursuit. also, always be fairly certain of yourself when rating. defend your choice and be to the point (e.g. for keldeo don't say maybe hp ghost or ice, just say "use hp ghost because dragons aren't a problem anymore with mamow/scizorwhatever so hp ice is useless"), this will make your rates shorter and give them more more impact. hope i helped you guys __________________

Jan 6th, 2013, 1:17:37 PM	#280
Mr. Green Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 143 Italy	Okay, keep in mind what you said to me, thank you very much ^ ^ I'm rated this: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3477049 Last edited by Mr. Green; Jan 6th, 2013 at 2:55:12 PM.

Jan 6th, 2013, 3:59:12 PM	#281
Neliel Victors must always speak of the way the world should be, not the way it is. Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 475 Mentor	Thank you :) Now that you remember me i didnt said anything to beat scarflatios because honestly i didnt think he was weak to it with scizor and mamoswine and scarf gengar which can tie.. thank you very much for your comment anyway! ^^ __________________ Check out team of the week!

Jan 7th, 2013, 8:44:01 AM	#282
Mr. Green Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 143 Italy	I'm rated three teams! http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3477049 http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3477109 http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3477101 Last edited by Mr. Green; Jan 7th, 2013 at 8:54:51 AM.

Jan 7th, 2013, 9:57:15 AM	#283
Dr Ciel When I walk these streets, A loaded six string on my back, I play for keeps, 'Cause I might not make it back Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 644 Brooklyn, New York	Okay, so I rated 3 teams in the past few days and here they are. One Two Three Did a 4th one just today as well. Here __________________ PM or VM me for an OU rate! Last edited by Dr Ciel; Jan 8th, 2013 at 10:06:58 AM. Reason: Added another rate

Jan 8th, 2013, 11:38:32 AM	#285
Trinitrotoluene And we will never be alone again / 'cause it doesn't happen everyday / kinda counted on you being a friend / kinda given up on giving away... Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 721 np: Daft Punk - Instant Crush (feat. Julian Casablancas) Mentor	Alright Dr Ciel. Your first three rates are good (considering the ~~subpar~~ quality of some of the teams that are being rated), but your fourth rate irks me. Most of it is good, but your suggestion of ScarfTar over his Hippowdon doesn't seem to help his team. You mentioned that it could be used to revenge kill Latios, Starmie, Volcarona, and unboosted Lucario, among some other threats, but the dude already had answers to them. Heatran demolishes Latios, and Celebi keeps Starmie on its toes. His Stoutland (thanks to your excellent suggestion of CB over Life Orb) can be used to take Volcarona and the previous threats apart, and Lucario could be handled with a combination of Hippowdon and Skarmory. Despite my rant on that one small point though, I really think that your rates are solid Dr Ciel. Keep them up! __________________

Jan 8th, 2013, 11:48:04 AM	#286
Dr Ciel When I walk these streets, A loaded six string on my back, I play for keeps, 'Cause I might not make it back Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 644 Brooklyn, New York	Alright, thanks for all the help! Will keep trying. __________________ PM or VM me for an OU rate!

Jan 9th, 2013, 9:28:30 AM	#287
Alexander. Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 1,132	I rated some teams in the past days, here's the rates: One Two Three Four Thanks in advance!

Jan 11th, 2013, 8:09:26 PM	#289
Shurtugal Teach love to all the little birds! Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 819 Florida	Here are few rates of mine: 1 2 3 4 5 Thanks! Linked on iPod so I hope they work! __________________ If you want your team rated; feel free to PM or VM me for your own, personalized rate! If you want to learn how to battle and win; check out my guide! Feel free to check out my team in OU that peaked #1! Last edited by Shurtugal; Jan 11th, 2013 at 9:20:29 PM.

Jan 11th, 2013, 9:38:18 PM	#290
Dr Ciel When I walk these streets, A loaded six string on my back, I play for keeps, 'Cause I might not make it back Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 644 Brooklyn, New York	Rated 2 more. One Two __________________ PM or VM me for an OU rate!

Jan 11th, 2013, 10:13:50 PM	#291
~~BattleStar~~ Banned deucer. Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 629 In a desert far away.	Hi I am relatively new to RMT. I in the past posted two RMTs for RU but that's about all. The last couple days I have started rating teams. I would love any advice and continue to rate teams. My first rate second Rate(RU) Third Rate Third Rate

Jan 12th, 2013, 6:15:47 AM	#292
Silvershadow234 is MANLY Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 427 England	Hi BattleStar. I'm not too good with OU rates, but I can help you with your RU rate. You found the big weakness to Nidoqueen which was great, and Timid Nidoqueen would have fixed that problem. However, Timid Nidoqueen isn't that good at wallbreaking and misses out on some pretty key KO's iirc. Running max speed on Feraligatr would have solved the issue much more easily, as it still performs its job which is sweeping, and the added bulk isn't all that relevant for gatr, as it is already decently bulky. You could also have pointed out what was wrong with the rotom set, as thunder wave is used on an expert belt set not Choice Scarf, and locking yourself into Thunder Wave is not a great idea and doesn't help rotom with it's normal counters, such as Ferroseed. You could have expanded on why Entei could fit his team better as well. Although I'm not too solid on OU, I'm going to try and help with your OU rates. On the first rate, Aerial Ace over Pursuit wasn't a great idea IMO, as Bullet Punch dents Breloom a fair bit anyway. Anything other than Scarf Breloom is dealt with fairly easily by Latias and Tornadus-T, and Scarf loom is fairly uncommon(only 1% of breloom are Choice Scarf). You could have said that running Sleep Talk on Tornadus-t would help with breloom though, as then it can absorb the spore and hit it hard with Hurricane or switch out with U-turn, and it gives him a nice sleep absorber. As for Pursuit on Scizor, Pursuit helps him to get rid of the vast majority of Keldeo's counters, such as Celebi and Latias. I have no idea about OU hail, so I'll leave that to the OU raters. But keep on rating BattleStar. You seem to be able to find the weaknesses within a team, it's just finding ways to fix it, but I'm sure you'll improve with practise. __________________ <&imanalt> i woudl fuck my cat, but my dick is bigger than she is iSkylight I think I find ducks sexually appealing idek CherubAgent I got a fleshlight from my friends as a present once CherubAgent I didnt need to share that did i VM or PM me for a BW2 UU / RU rate

Jan 13th, 2013, 3:25:28 AM	#293
Mr. Green Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 143 Italy	I'm rated this teams!^^ http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3477367 http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3477409 http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3477424 http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3477376 http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3477306

Jan 13th, 2013, 5:31:50 AM	#294
Neliel Victors must always speak of the way the world should be, not the way it is. Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 475 Mentor	@mr. green First, i would like you to read this. Here tab explain one of the mistake you do sometimes when you rate. In trhe of your five rate, you suggested specially defensive rotom-w for example, which is obviously a great pokemon but not the only way to go to check rain teams and torn-t. I mean, its good to do so, but if you think this way you will have to put a rotom-w in almost every team that lacks of jirachi, and its not the best way to rate. Rating a team only thinking about the switch-ins he lacks its quite pointless, half of the metagame has not true counter so you cant just slap a lando-t in every team to check terrakion (this is just an example). You have to take in mind which strategy does the team have, and think how your change modifies his strategy. If the team is so offensive that a tornadus cant even switch in one time, maybe a cb zor is enough to check the bird, while a specially defensive jirachi will just ruin his offensive team. Now i think your rates were overall good, the suggestions you made were correct, (obviously i cant enter in the merit of all the 5 rates) but sometimes it seems like you are just suggesting the standard set of each pokemon, which can be done for sure but with all the options this game has to offer, i think you can do a better job suggesting more "creative" things or something like that. Also, i think you can do a better job to the format of your rates, you can just do a new paragraph for every change you want to do, it makes the rate easier to read. Anyway, keep it up, you are doing a nice work! __________________ Check out team of the week!

Jan 13th, 2013, 5:49:35 AM	#295
Mr. Green Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 143 Italy	Nel :) thx for your suggestions!

Jan 13th, 2013, 12:57:40 PM	#296
Jimbon already over Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 486	@ BattleStar: Looking over your first rate, the first thing I noticed was how you went about making suggested changes to the team. The threat you identified to this guy's team was Scarf Breloom, something that you're really only going to see 1/100 battles. If you're going to rate a team, then you should try to look at the more common threats to that team, which in this case would be Scarf / Agility Thundurus-T, Mamoswine, Tornadus-T and Dragons which are all much more relevant and threatening to this guys team. If you're ever unsure of what to look for when rating a team, have a look at the most recent usage stats and the moveset statistics, and see what sets are the most common. As a result your changes were kind of in vein as he doesn't really need to change anything to specifically deal with Breloom, given that everything on his team checks it. Also the changes you made weren't really that effective. Losing Pursuit on Scizor further increases his Latios / Latias weakness, and given that Scizor is his only Dragon resist he'll have a lot of trouble trying to beat either of these, especially Scarf sets. Moving onto your second OU rate, I had mixed opinions on this. I would agree that maybe Tentacruel isn't the best fit for his team and that Starmie might be better, especially given his pretty big weakness to Rain. As for your suggested Gengar change, I think that was a little random, as Gengar doesn't really have a lot of use for his team. You talk about Gengar being a good Terrakion counter and Spinblocker, when his team doesn't even have hazards and Gengar is not a Terrakion counter, as it is dying upon switching into Stone Edge. It seemed like you were making these changes based on the assumption that this guys team was weak to Terrakion, when it really wasn't. The OP already has Gliscor and Reuniclus for Terrakion, not to mention Tentacruel which you considered changing aswell. If a team is not weak to a certain Pokemon, then you shouldn't try to add another Pokemon specifically chosen to the Pokemon in question. The OP doesn't need a Claydol / Golurk / Nidoqueen / Tangrowth / whatever to beat Terrakion when he has solid answers for it. I don't have much time so I'm not going to comment on your third rate, but a lot of your problems lie with the fact that you're trying to make the team fare better against Pokemon that aren't even threatening to the team in question. If you really are stuck on how to identify threats, then scroll through a threat list / usage stats to see which Pokemon in particular are threatening to each team, otherwise you're just making redundant changes that remove other Pokemon within a team that perform a certain role, which can be detrimental to the team. __________________

Jan 14th, 2013, 6:26:13 AM	#297
Mr. Green Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 143 Italy	i'm rated three teams! http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3477453 http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3477480 http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthr...42#post4540442 Last edited by Mr. Green; Jan 14th, 2013 at 6:41:25 AM.

Jan 14th, 2013, 9:38:38 AM	#299
Mosquiton Tette Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 126 Italy	Any advices for this? http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthr...16#post4539616 http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthr...24#post4539424 http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthr...95#post4536395 http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthr...77#post4535177 http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthr...59#post4532259 http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthr...62#post4524662 http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthr...20#post4523220 http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthr...39#post4519739 http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthr...18#post4518518 http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthr...56#post4518256 __________________ PM or VM me for a OU Rate!

Jan 14th, 2013, 9:48:48 AM	#300
Alexander. Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 1,132	I rated 2 more: One Two