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----------------- The Eve of Eevee Tournament! Okay, let's be frank. Who doesn't like at least one of Eevee or its evolution? Many of us have a wet appetite after seeing Japan get the Eevee cup so let's experiment with a tournament in the very same rule set! ----------------- Rules:
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----------------- Pairings: Wild Eep: 1679 1781 6839 vs Sidfrid: 0862 5375 8993 Finals Battle Video: 82-69459-55190
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I lost to Sidfrid in a great game. Congratulations, Sidfrid!
Now that the tournament's over, how did you all feel about the metagame? What worked, what didn't work, etc.? I'll post my own views on the matter shortly. My team was: Vaporeon (F) @ Mystic Water Trait: Water Absorb Level: 50 EVs: 252 Def / 158 HP / 100 SAtk Modest Nature IVs: 0 Atk - Surf - Signal Beam - Wish - Protect Best wish support in the game. The combination of bulk and power (and @ Mystic Water) was meant to be a hard stop for anyone foolish enough to run Eevee. Signal Beam is conservative coverage move, hitting water resists decently (but not as good as HP Grass vs Vaporeon or Ice Beam vs Leafeon). Jolteon (M) @ Life Orb Trait: Volt Absorb Level: 50 EVs: 252 Spd / 248 SAtk / 6 HP / 4 Def Timid Nature IVs: 30 SAtk / 30 SDef / 2 Atk - Thunderbolt - Signal Beam -> Fake Tears - Hidden Power [Ground] - Protect Jolteon's the fastest thing alive in this meta, and it only makes sense to load it with speed. Switching Signal Beam to Fake Tears was a response to losing to Curse Umbreon vs. GC7. It definitely makes Umbreon mortal. Protect is there to facilitate wishpassing, which is very good in rotation battles. Flareon (M) @ Chilan Berry Trait: Flash Fire Level: 50 EVs: 252 Atk / 238 HP / 20 Spd Adamant Nature - Double-Edge - Superpower - Fire Blast - Protect This is NOT a Guts Flareon. For the kind of team I wanted to use, the timer the Toxic poison sets for Flareon is not my cup of tea. Instead I use a Chilan Berry to make it an even harder stop vs. Leafeon and Eevee. Fire Blast off Adamant is actually stronger than Fire Fang, which is sad news indeed. It was my most commonly used move, so I wonder how much merit there would have been for Modest Flareon. Espeon (F) @ Light Clay Trait: Synchronize Level: 50 EVs: 252 Spd / 252 HP / 6 Def Timid Nature IVs: 0 Atk - Psychic - Signal Beam - Light Screen - Reflect Blah blah standard dual screen Espeon. Psychic > Psyshock in order to take advantage of Fake Tears. Umbreon (M) @ Leftovers Trait: Synchronize Level: 50 EVs: 252 SDef / 252 HP / 6 Def Sassy Nature IVs: 0 Spd - Payback - Curse - Wish - Protect SpDef Curse Umbreon is a monster. It can set up even in the face of special attackers firing super effective Signal Beams at it. This moveset is as tight as it gets, and I've won every match I used it and lost every match when I didn't. You'd think I'd have learned after the first time. Glaceon (F) @ Expert Belt Trait: Snow Cloak Level: 50 EVs: 252 SAtk / 228 HP / 30 Spd Modest Nature IVs: 30 Def / 30 SDef / 30 Spd / 2 Atk - Ice Beam - Signal Beam - Hidden Power [Rock] - Mirror Coat -> Fake Tears Never used this thing. Brought it R1 (take 2) but it never appeared. It was supposed to be anti-Leafeon with Ice Beam (and coverage for Espeon/Umbreon as well as other Glaceon and Flareon in a pinch). I love Mirror Coat (and saw a Japanese vid in which Mirror Coat scored three knockouts) but I needed Fake Tears insurance to make sure Umbreon couldn't stop me again.
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Join Date: Oct 2012
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Confirming. That was an epic, haxy and strange moveset on jolteon, good game!
There's a warstory coming your way! Now for the team: Jolteon (M) @ Choice Specs Trait: Volt Absorb Level: 50 EVs: 4 HP / 4 Def / 248 SAtk / 252 Spd Modest (+SAtk , -Atk) IVs: 30 SAtk / 30 SDef / - Thunder - Thunderbolt - Signal Beam - Hidden Power [Ground] Standard Specs Jolteon Set, Jolteon mission on the team is to hit hard before Espeon put on the screens, but a Choice item in Rotation Battles din't proved as useful as I think. But all in all Jolteon always got the job done. I put up both Thunder and Thunderbolt in case someone used manual rain, din't happen. Espeon (M) @ Light Clay Trait: Synchronize Level: 50 EVs: 244 HP / 12 Def / 252 Spd Timid (+Spd, -Atk) - Psychic - Signal Beam - Light Screen - Reflect The fact that Wild Eep and me was using almost the same Espeon only difference being the EV's make clear that this Espeon is in fact standard. The speed EV's make it the second fastest pokemon and can put on the screens before any harm happens to the team. To be honest I really don't remember why I put those 12 Defense EV's.... survive a specific hit?, maybe. Leafeon (M) @ Sitrus Berry Trait: Chlorophyll Level: 50 EVs: 84 HP / 252 SAtk / 172 Spd / Jolly (+Spd, -SAtk) - Return - X-Scissor - Leaf Blade - Sword Dance The second biggest treath in the metagame, after a single boost it can take down a whole team by himself having perfect coverage and hitting supereffective half the tier. This was surely a force to recognize, under the sun it became impossible to revange kill and the Sitrus Berry let me recklessly set up on almost any foe, even Flareon got obliterated by his might. But like in OU the sun is his life, out of the sun Choice Specs Jolteon OHKO it with Signal Beam and without the SD boost a mixed Flareon OHKO it with Flamethrower. Umbreon (M) @ Leftovers Trait: Synchronize Level: 50 EVs: 244 HP / 12 Atk / 252 SDef Careful (+SDef, -Atk) IVs: 29 Spd - Rest - Payback - Heal Bell - Sleep Talk THE special wall, status absorber, cleric, status bouncer, status healer, the roles Umbreon can have in my team make it almost a neccesity.... did you read "almost"?. At the start of the Tournament it was foresaw that this gonna be a heavy statusing metagame, nothing more far of the truth. Fearing of Flareon Gust activating by Toxic, Jolteon absorbing Thunder Wave and Espeon bouncing back any status to the user, no one tryed even once a status move. This one rested in the Bench the whole tour. Vaporeon (M) @ Wacan Berry Trait: Water Absorb Level: 50 EVs: 252 Def / 252 SDef / 4 Spd Bold (+Def, -Atk) - Wish - Scald - Heal Bell - Signal Beam The Wish passer and all-around wall of my team, his only fearing was Jolteon and that was half solved by the Wacan Berry. He also served as a panic button against a rampant Flareon, Heal Bell was as useless as Umbreon but Vaporeon reedemed himself with Signal Beam. Flareon (M) @ Cheri Berry Trait: Guts Level: 50 EVs: 84 HP / 212 Atk / 44 SAtk / 164 SDef / 4 Spd Lonely (+Atk, -Def) - Facade - Work Up - Superpower - Flamethrower Ok, now the star of the show, strange Flareon to say the least, first the item, Why would you not like a status on a pokemon with Guts?, well I sure like status but no paralysis, I din't want to be revange killed by Umbreon or Glaceon. The EV's was designed to OHKO Umbreon with Gust activated or with a +1 from Work Up, OHKO Leafeon at +1 SAtk, and sure outspeed other Flareon who din't invest in Speed. I choosed Work Up because it gave me +1 Atk and +1 SAtk powering up both of my main move and confusing my opponent about which Flareon set I was using before is to late. About the nature the only Physical attackers was Leafeon, Eevee and Umbreon, in that same order of dangerous, but he resist Leafeon STAB and X-Sccisor, Choice Band Adaptabilty Eevee was good just on paper, and Umbreom needs two turns of setup to 2HKO me While I just need one turn to OHKO him, so I din't worried for physical bulk. Last edited by Sidfrid; Jan 15th, 2013 at 11:51:00 PM. |
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Hate is an everlasting wellspring from which it is eternally sustained.
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Thanks for letting me change the topic <_< congrats Sidfrid.
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Here are more videos for you!
Round 1 vs. GC7: 47-20617-87912 Round 1 vs. Xeno598: 96-00899-71457 Round 2 vs. voodoo pimp: 84-09866-20465 Round 3 vs. Age of Kings: 66-52220-94266
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