Mamoswine [BW2 Revamp] [QC: 3/3] [GP 0/2]

[Pocket]

Originally Posted by Fat Sciztar

Seeing as to how I mention Breloom as a partner to Mamsowine I know the main switch in to Breloom is the EON twins, so Breloom is a good lure out to these two. But I see what you mean, because Mamoswine can not switch into any of the twins moves. So should I mention that Mamoswine can not switch into any of Latios or Latias's moves?

Don't mention Lati@s twins at all

I actually don't understand what you mean by or dragons on a Dragonspam team. Are trying to say that Heatran can counter the Dragons found on DragonSpam or DragMagnezone teams with Hidden Power Ice or just being a Steel type? I assume you mean by countering the dragons.

He means that Heatran is a good partner for Mamoswine b/c it can tank Dragon hits, assaults which teams with Mamoswine tend to be vulnerable against.

So I should I move that to that the Life Orb set or just scratch that sentence all together? But other than that, I fixed the changes you wanted for Mamoswine.

You can move the first part of that sentence to the LO set or Overview, where it would be more relevant. Take it out of Checks and Counters section, though.

[Sciztar]

Originally Posted by Fat Pocket

Don't mention Lati@s twins at all

Alright, I dropped the Lati@s twins out of the Breloom teammate portion of the analysis.

You can move the first part of that sentence to the LO set or Overview, where it would be more relevant. Take it out of Checks and Counters section, though.

I made the changes that Pocket and PK suggested. Can i mention that Mamoswine can function on a Sandstorm team, or just put that in the AO section? Other than that I believe that's it.

[PK Gaming]

no that's quite alright

like's get this analysis MOVING


QC Approved 1/3

[Frog]

honestly what does sash do in this metagame besides get burned and let deoxys-d set up?

[alexwolf]

On the first set you say that an Adamant nature is the preffered one but you have Jolly listed first.

[Sciztar]

Originally Posted by Fat alexwolf

On the first set you say that an Adamant nature is the preffered one but you have Jolly listed first.

Hey thanks for the catch, I guess I didn't changed that I meant to say it the other way around.

Edit: Anymore suggestions?

[Princess Bri]

QC Approved 2/3

[Sciztar]

Originally Posted by Fat Frog

honestly what does sash do in this metagame besides get burned and let deoxys-d set up?

It functions great as a lead, seeing how every weather summoner has a chance of OHKO Mamoswine(if they are offensive). So with the Focus Sash you can guarantee a turn to set up Stealth or use endeavor to get them down to 1HP and then use Ice Shard to KO the them which can help your team win the weather wars.

[shrang]

Generally looks fine, except I would like you to go into Jolly vs. Adamant in the Life Orb set with a little more detail. The use of Jolly nature is generally better for number of things you can outspeed, but that 10% power drop does actually lose you a number of KOs. I'll give you a few damage calcs, which I'd recommend you put into the analysis to highlight the benefits of Jolly vs Adamant:

Adamant Earthquake vs 252/88+ Ferrothorn: 44.60% - 52.84% (Chance to 2HKO after SR and Leftovers, very high chance with one layer of Spikes only)
Jolly Earthquake vs 252/88+ Ferrothorn: 40.91% - 48.01%
Adamant Earthquake vs 252/0 Tyranitar: 106.93% - 126.24%
Jolly Earthquake vs 252/0 Tyranitar: 96.53% - 114.36% (Basically for lead matchups, some people ARE stupid or don't care enough to leave their Tyranitars in, and nothing will frustrate you more than to miss the OHKO on the stupid thing and have it set up free SR on you or something)
Adamant Icicle Crash vs 252/232+ Skarmory: 34.43% - 40.72% (Good chance at 3HKOing Skarmory if you get the 30% flinch chance)
Jolly Icicle Crash vs 252/232+ Skarmory: 31.44% - 37.13%
Adamant Earthquake vs 252/252+ Hippowdon: 35.71% - 42.14%
Adamant Icicle Crash vs 252/252+ Hippowdon: 60.48% - 71.90% (2HKO guaranteed with SR for Earthquake then Icicle Crash)
Jolly Earthquake vs 252/252+ Hippowdon: 32.14% - 38.10%
Jolly Icicle Crash vs 252/252+ Hippowdon: 55.71% - 65.71% (Miss the 2HKO for EQ + Icicle Crash)

Put these in and I'll approve.

[Sciztar]

Originally Posted by Fat shrang

Generally looks fine, except I would like you to go into Jolly vs. Adamant in the Life Orb set with a little more detail. The use of Jolly nature is generally better for number of things you can outspeed, but that 10% power drop does actually lose you a number of KOs. I'll give you a few damage calcs, which I'd recommend you put into the analysis to highlight the benefits of Jolly vs Adamant:

Adamant Earthquake vs 252/88+ Ferrothorn: 44.60% - 52.84% (Chance to 2HKO after SR and Leftovers, very high chance with one layer of Spikes only)
Jolly Earthquake vs 252/88+ Ferrothorn: 40.91% - 48.01%
Adamant Earthquake vs 252/0 Tyranitar: 106.93% - 126.24%
Jolly Earthquake vs 252/0 Tyranitar: 96.53% - 114.36% (Basically for lead matchups, some people ARE stupid or don't care enough to leave their Tyranitars in, and nothing will frustrate you more than to miss the OHKO on the stupid thing and have it set up free SR on you or something)
Adamant Icicle Crash vs 252/232+ Skarmory: 34.43% - 40.72% (Good chance at 3HKOing Skarmory if you get the 30% flinch chance)
Jolly Icicle Crash vs 252/232+ Skarmory: 31.44% - 37.13%
Adamant Earthquake vs 252/252+ Hippowdon: 35.71% - 42.14%
Adamant Icicle Crash vs 252/252+ Hippowdon: 60.48% - 71.90% (2HKO guaranteed with SR for Earthquake then Icicle Crash)
Jolly Earthquake vs 252/252+ Hippowdon: 32.14% - 38.10%
Jolly Icicle Crash vs 252/252+ Hippowdon: 55.71% - 65.71% (Miss the 2HKO for EQ + Icicle Crash)

Put these in and I'll approve.

Okay I've implemented those changes into the Life Orb set. Anymore last minute changes or suggestions?

[shrang]

QC Approved 3/3

[Sciztar]

Now that I have 3 QC checks, I'll be editing the analysis for GP Checks. Does any GP members have any concerns with how I made the format for the analysis please let me know.

[Redew]

Okay, well, after looking through this and barely getting through the overview, I am going to say that the prose is very bad and that you should look at the Smogon Spelling and Grammar Standards, Purdue OWL, Check like the Prose Vol. One, and Check like the Prose Vol. Two. Sorry! But this is just very hard to sort through.

[Seven Deadly Sins]

After concerns were brought up regarding the quality of the prose in this analysis, we've decided to reassign this to a more capable writer. We still value your contributions, but suggest some more writing practice before diving headlong into C&C.