Simple Questions & Simple Answers & General Resources (OU Edition) MK II - Page 44

Novaray · Jan 20th, 2013, 10:23:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat BlackRussian

Is the only point of that is to trap steel types with Magnezone?

Yes because Steel is the only type that resist Dragon, so Magnezone can trap and take out things like Skarmory, Ferrothorn, and Scizor paving the way for your Dragons to fire off unresisted Outrages and Draco Meteors

G-Von · Jan 21st, 2013, 11:31:54 AM

Now that the Tornadus-T/Keldeo test has been finished, is there another pokemon or set of pokemon planned on being suspected? Or is it a little too soon to determine this since the voting finished only a couple days ago?

alkinesthetase · Jan 21st, 2013, 11:33:21 AM

i have heard from aldaron that it's sizing up to be deoxys-D, but discussions are probably still ongoing in #suspect

G-Von · Jan 21st, 2013, 11:53:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat alkinesthetase

i have heard from aldaron that it's sizing up to be deoxys-D, but discussions are probably still ongoing in #suspect

Hmm interesting, thank you for the quick response!

Shurtugal · Jan 21st, 2013, 11:56:02 AM

deod? its hardly broken lol. first keldeo and now deod? *sigh*

as for my question: why would deod be suspect?

Novaray · Jan 21st, 2013, 12:16:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Shurtugal

deod? its hardly broken lol. first keldeo and now deod? *sigh*

as for my question: why would deod be suspect?

It's because Deo-D creates a playstyle that takes basically no thought and with his bulk, there's very few attacks that can straight out OHKO him so its basically guaranteed Stealth Rocks and usually a layer of Spikes too which is essentially what sent Deo-S packing.

Frochtejohgurt · Jan 21st, 2013, 1:20:33 PM

Hi, does the Technican boost still apply to Flight Gem (or no item) Acrobatics?

alkinesthetase · Jan 21st, 2013, 1:23:36 PM

no you lose the tech boost if your acro is doubled by lack of item; this includes if you were carrying the flying gem

Frochtejohgurt · Jan 21st, 2013, 2:40:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat alkinesthetase

no you lose the tech boost if your acro is doubled by lack of item; this includes if you were carrying the flying gem

OK, thanks.

Also I came up with another question. Why is this website called Smogon University and not Koffing University? Smogon is Koffing's German name, but this is an english forum.

Trinitrotoluene · Jan 21st, 2013, 2:53:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Frochtejohgurt

OK, thanks.

Also I came up with another question. Why is this website Smogon University and not Koffing University? Smogon is Koffing's German name, but this is an english forum.

A non sequitur question deserves a non sequitur answer. I believe the name Smogon University came about because of an inside joke between the earliest inhabitants of the site of something along the lines of "Nazi Pokemon" or something like that. Someone more in-tune with Smogon's history can answer this question better than me though...

~~I spend too much time in Thread Cryonics...~~

hotcoldyay · Jan 21st, 2013, 8:43:47 PM

How come manaphy is staying in ubers and not allowed in ou? Ive rarely seen it in uber battles and i dont see much about it that makes it broken. It seems perfectly viable, especially since its so heavily reliant on rain. I personally think she should be the next suspect.

And why is haxorus thrown out for other dragons and so sorely underrated?

Edit: btw, thanks to novaray for answering my last question.

alkinesthetase · Jan 21st, 2013, 9:02:19 PM

hydration+rest+tail glow/calm mind = boost up and ignore damage then sweep faces. the "it's so reliant on rain" argument is rather inaccurate considering that rain is already by far the most powerful weather and thus "reliant on rain" is not really a disadvantage for any pokemon

main problem with haxorus is it's usually too slow and not easy to set up with

alexwolf · Jan 21st, 2013, 10:50:00 PM

@holdcoldyay

Haxorus's is best at destroying slow defensive teams, which are not so popular, which in turn leads to Haxorus being scrapped for Dragons more capable of facing the offensive teams that are everywhere.

Jukain · Jan 21st, 2013, 11:22:37 PM

@Trinitrotoluene:

A little late, but I'm pretty sure it comes from the original Smogon forums being Nazi themed. It was an inside joke. From what I've seen at least.

note to self: spend less time in internet archives

pinky8bit · Jan 22nd, 2013, 3:25:00 PM

is it worth thinking about leftovers, toxic heal gliscor and try to predict an incomming toxic or is it just to hard to pull off? because I watch some pokemonbattles on youtube, po or showdown and I am always happy to see interesting or original things but I have never seen that so.. is it too stupid or is that just something no one has tried yet (or not often enough that I could've seen it)

alkinesthetase · Jan 22nd, 2013, 3:35:08 PM

the number of times you'll predict a toxic and walk away with 3/16ths per turn is nowhere near the number of times you won't get toxiced and have to suffer with 1/16th per turn. it's just people hoping they get lucky and more often than not, you won't. seeing as one of the #1 reasons to use gliscor over landorus-T is for the extra recovery and status immunity imparted by the toxic orb, it's definitely silly to not equip the toxic orb in the first place.

Commander Vimes · Jan 22nd, 2013, 3:36:57 PM

Where can I find the current list of Ubers?

Subject 18 · Jan 22nd, 2013, 3:56:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Commander Vimes

Where can I find the current list of Ubers?

This it right here. You can find it in the Ubers RMT sections and there is a thread titled OU's ban list.

Edit: Changed the link.

rolrctermaniac · Jan 22nd, 2013, 7:42:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Commander Vimes

Where can I find the current list of Ubers?

Go into the smogon strategy pokedex and click uber next to one of the Arecus forms

always current, plus you get a strategy dex.

hotcoldyay · Jan 23rd, 2013, 12:45:08 AM

Thanks for the answers on manaphy and haxorus :)

Is this set viable for virizion in ou? I made it up :P

Virizion @ Life Orb
Hasty, 30/31/30/31/31/31
64 Atk/192 SpA/252 Spe
-Calm Mind
-Giga Drain
-Close Combat
-Hidden Power Ice 70

Although somewhat odd and counter productive to its special defense, close combat is extremely useful. This seemingly typical calm mind variant lures in blissey and ohkos 4/0 variants with the given evs and life orb through close combat. It can also severely hamper and 2hko, if not outright ohko after previous damage, ferrothorn. Hasty is so choice locked politoed and keldeo and to an extent cm latias are walled nicely and fairly enough, respectively.

Ive tried it and its been working nicely so far. Im just curious to know if this set actually is as viable as ive been lead to believe through my experimentation.

alkinesthetase · Jan 23rd, 2013, 12:50:37 AM

nobody runs 4/0 blissey, where would the other 256 EVs be >_> besides a +1 focus blast has a pretty good chance of 2hkoing some blissey variants if you're LO. if you aren't LO, the worst blissey can do to you is status (lum that shit) or seismic toss as you boost again and hit it.

you CAN run close combat as a lure, but there is a different set that is better suited to that, which was the mixed viriz with work up. it's not really about work up on that set, the boost is really just there as an option if you ever get an opening. on your current set, chances are you're better off with focus blast for more power against most opponents.

hotcoldyay · Jan 23rd, 2013, 12:57:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat alkinesthetase

nobody runs 4/0 blissey, where would the other 256 EVs be >_> besides a +1 focus blast has a pretty good chance of 2hkoing some blissey variants if you're LO. if you aren't LO, the worst blissey can do to you is status (lum that shit) or seismic toss as you boost again and hit it.

you CAN run close combat as a lure, but there is a different set that is better suited to that, which was the mixed viriz with work up. it's not really about work up on that set, the boost is really just there as an option if you ever get an opening. on your current set, chances are you're better off with focus blast for more power against most opponents.

Oops i meant 4/252 calm blissey, sorry about that. Im seriously deprived of sleep XD im guessing it still doesnt change the circumstances.

The huge problem i have with focus blast, however, is that accuracy. It always misses when i need it, and hits when i dont really need it at all. And i have to rely on virizion as it fills a niche that breloom and celebi could never rely fulfill: taking hits In general, more so specially, and countering dark types, most especially tyranitar. Respectively.

Box · Jan 23rd, 2013, 7:41:56 PM

4/252 means 252 Def EVs when the attacking move is physical.

4/252 Calm doesn't exist.

You're much better off using the Mixed Attacker set, though if you're looking for something to sponge special hits I am perplexed as to why you want to use the offensive sets.

Onicon · Jan 24th, 2013, 12:58:47 PM

You are about to confure us - again, the third time.

With all due respect, isn't it a bit preticipate to say, 4/252 Calm Blissey does not exist, when they are used in the on-site analysis? Granted, they outdated, but even according the actual stats this spread is used on one of five Blisseys.

So are we allowed ask again? What kind of advantages does 4/252/252 Calm has over the classic 252/252/4 Bold?

**Pocket** · Jan 24th, 2013, 1:22:29 PM

your answer lies here

Jan 21st, 2013, 11:31:54 AM	#1077
G-Von Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 336 Ridgefield Park, NJ	Now that the Tornadus-T/Keldeo test has been finished, is there another pokemon or set of pokemon planned on being suspected? Or is it a little too soon to determine this since the voting finished only a couple days ago? __________________ TEAM FENNEKIN JAN BIRACHI

Jan 21st, 2013, 11:33:21 AM	#1078
alkinesthetase <MrE> SPIDERS /\/\;,,;/\/\ Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 696 <ala> canadabros is the strongest bros you can be Mentor	i have heard from aldaron that it's sizing up to be deoxys-D, but discussions are probably still ongoing in #suspect __________________ <%yee> i will summon a spider to kill alkines my massive mafia roles list

Jan 21st, 2013, 11:56:02 AM	#1080
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Jan 21st, 2013, 1:20:33 PM	#1082
Frochtejohgurt Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 81	Hi, does the Technican boost still apply to Flight Gem (or no item) Acrobatics? __________________ Früchtejoghurt*

Jan 21st, 2013, 1:23:36 PM	#1083
alkinesthetase <MrE> SPIDERS /\/\;,,;/\/\ Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 696 <ala> canadabros is the strongest bros you can be Mentor	no you lose the tech boost if your acro is doubled by lack of item; this includes if you were carrying the flying gem __________________ <%yee> i will summon a spider to kill alkines my massive mafia roles list

Jan 21st, 2013, 8:43:47 PM	#1086
hotcoldyay Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 174	How come manaphy is staying in ubers and not allowed in ou? Ive rarely seen it in uber battles and i dont see much about it that makes it broken. It seems perfectly viable, especially since its so heavily reliant on rain. I personally think she should be the next suspect. And why is haxorus thrown out for other dragons and so sorely underrated? Edit: btw, thanks to novaray for answering my last question. __________________ Black FC- 1377 6936 4444 It's not about the destination: it's the fun in the journey. But I think Ash has took that far enough in the anime.

Jan 21st, 2013, 9:02:19 PM	#1087
alkinesthetase <MrE> SPIDERS /\/\;,,;/\/\ Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 696 <ala> canadabros is the strongest bros you can be Mentor	hydration+rest+tail glow/calm mind = boost up and ignore damage then sweep faces. the "it's so reliant on rain" argument is rather inaccurate considering that rain is already by far the most powerful weather and thus "reliant on rain" is not really a disadvantage for any pokemon main problem with haxorus is it's usually too slow and not easy to set up with __________________ <%yee> i will summon a spider to kill alkines my massive mafia roles list

Jan 21st, 2013, 10:50:00 PM	#1088
alexwolf King of Conquerors Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 3,621 Greece	@holdcoldyay Haxorus's is best at destroying slow defensive teams, which are not so popular, which in turn leads to Haxorus being scrapped for Dragons more capable of facing the offensive teams that are everywhere. __________________ Part of the OU QC team, message me for a check!

Jan 21st, 2013, 11:22:37 PM	#1089
Jukain rip numeros Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 1,686 somewhere could be anywhere Mentor	@Trinitrotoluene: A little late, but I'm pretty sure it comes from the original Smogon forums being Nazi themed. It was an inside joke. From what I've seen at least. note to self: spend less time in internet archives __________________ C&C Work \| 1k RMT \| Contribute! \| VM for an OU Rate! \| gp member: vm/pm for a check \| previously pokemon0078 / aka jew-cane

Jan 22nd, 2013, 3:25:00 PM	#1090
pinky8bit Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 2	is it worth thinking about leftovers, toxic heal gliscor and try to predict an incomming toxic or is it just to hard to pull off? because I watch some pokemonbattles on youtube, po or showdown and I am always happy to see interesting or original things but I have never seen that so.. is it too stupid or is that just something no one has tried yet (or not often enough that I could've seen it)

Jan 22nd, 2013, 3:35:08 PM	#1091
alkinesthetase <MrE> SPIDERS /\/\;,,;/\/\ Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 696 <ala> canadabros is the strongest bros you can be Mentor	the number of times you'll predict a toxic and walk away with 3/16ths per turn is nowhere near the number of times you won't get toxiced and have to suffer with 1/16th per turn. it's just people hoping they get lucky and more often than not, you won't. seeing as one of the #1 reasons to use gliscor over landorus-T is for the extra recovery and status immunity imparted by the toxic orb, it's definitely silly to not equip the toxic orb in the first place. __________________ <%yee> i will summon a spider to kill alkines my massive mafia roles list

Jan 22nd, 2013, 3:36:57 PM	#1092
Commander Vimes Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 26 Ankh-Morpork	Where can I find the current list of Ubers?

Jan 23rd, 2013, 12:45:08 AM	#1095
hotcoldyay Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 174	Thanks for the answers on manaphy and haxorus :) Is this set viable for virizion in ou? I made it up :P Virizion @ Life Orb Hasty, 30/31/30/31/31/31 64 Atk/192 SpA/252 Spe -Calm Mind -Giga Drain -Close Combat -Hidden Power Ice 70 Although somewhat odd and counter productive to its special defense, close combat is extremely useful. This seemingly typical calm mind variant lures in blissey and ohkos 4/0 variants with the given evs and life orb through close combat. It can also severely hamper and 2hko, if not outright ohko after previous damage, ferrothorn. Hasty is so choice locked politoed and keldeo and to an extent cm latias are walled nicely and fairly enough, respectively. Ive tried it and its been working nicely so far. Im just curious to know if this set actually is as viable as ive been lead to believe through my experimentation. __________________ Black FC- 1377 6936 4444 It's not about the destination: it's the fun in the journey. But I think Ash has took that far enough in the anime.

Jan 23rd, 2013, 12:50:37 AM	#1096
alkinesthetase <MrE> SPIDERS /\/\;,,;/\/\ Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 696 <ala> canadabros is the strongest bros you can be Mentor	nobody runs 4/0 blissey, where would the other 256 EVs be >_> besides a +1 focus blast has a pretty good chance of 2hkoing some blissey variants if you're LO. if you aren't LO, the worst blissey can do to you is status (lum that shit) or seismic toss as you boost again and hit it. you CAN run close combat as a lure, but there is a different set that is better suited to that, which was the mixed viriz with work up. it's not really about work up on that set, the boost is really just there as an option if you ever get an opening. on your current set, chances are you're better off with focus blast for more power against most opponents. __________________ <%yee> i will summon a spider to kill alkines my massive mafia roles list

Jan 23rd, 2013, 7:41:56 PM	#1098
Box Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,240 In Gardenia's panties.	4/252 means 252 Def EVs when the attacking move is physical. 4/252 Calm doesn't exist. You're much better off using the Mixed Attacker set, though if you're looking for something to sponge special hits I am perplexed as to why you want to use the offensive sets. __________________ My CAPASB team \|Come join us at CAPASB, the nerds' playground\|

Jan 24th, 2013, 12:58:47 PM	#1099
Onicon Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 696	You are about to confure us - again, the third time. With all due respect, isn't it a bit preticipate to say, 4/252 Calm Blissey does not exist, when they are used in the on-site analysis? Granted, they outdated, but even according the actual stats this spread is used on one of five Blisseys. So are we allowed ask again? What kind of advantages does 4/252/252 Calm has over the classic 252/252/4 Bold?

Jan 24th, 2013, 1:22:29 PM	#1100
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