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Join Date: Dec 2012
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No one says lie-ron, it is basic common sense. The only people who read it wrong are those who don't pay attention to the spelling. Most are spelled exactly like they are written, this thread is dumb (especially since most of the pronunciations are wrong). Where are your sources? A citation is needed!
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There are a few things I will comment on. First, thanks for putting this thread together, since even though we may not agree on pronunciations it's still interesting to discuss. For many of the pronunciations listed, I doubt I will alter how I say the names because I stick with whatever sounds the least awkward or goofy. WEEN-gull, for example, is just silly. Why it would be anything other than WING-gull is beyond me. As for the German numbers in the Hydreigon line, I would be more inclined to pronounce them according to the German if they were spelled according to English custom: Dyno, Zvilous, and Hydrygon as possible spellings. Certainly, pronouncing a W as a V is entirely foreign to English and spellings should be changed as needed, to remain faithful to the German. The composer Richard Wagner, if discussed outside of Germany, should be Richard Vogner.
Strictly speaking, any given word can only have a single emphasized syllable, yet many of the pronunciations you list give more than one emphasis. Nobody speaks that way, and it begs the question which syllable is actually emphasized. Take Rayquaza. You list it as RAY-KWAY-zuh, but a literal reading of that would immediately sound awkward. It is either RAY-kway-zha or ray-KWAY-zuh (and the latter is almost certainly correct), not both. Also, I think we can sensibly conclude that Meloetta is pronounced mel-o-ET-uh, from melody and singer Etta James. |
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Join Date: Sep 2012
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How do you know the pronunciations are wrong? It's actually the main reason for the thread, just to show how people who think they are said one way get it found out it is the other! Besides, he already said he is using the 3DS pokedex plus which says the name directly to you!
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Join Date: Mar 2011
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So like this: PID-jee-ot Of course, people should just pronounce things however they want to! I know I don't agree with some of these pronounciations and this thread is probably not going to make me change my ways. |
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Join Date: Jun 2009
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I assumed that Sableye came from "disable" and "eye" so I've always pronounced it as SAY-bel-eye. Lairon is obviously from the word "lair" so I have no idea why anyone would pronounce it otherwise... And yeah, Arceus is totally AR-kee-us. Raikou is surprising, I've always pronounced it as Rai-koo because Rai-kow sounds odd (ou as in house). Rai-koh never crossed my mind. The rest of them are fine. Edit: Thundurus; THUND-er-is -is?! |
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Join Date: Jun 2012
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tornadus surprised me
EDIT: No, I meant as in its written like thundurus is (refer to above post)
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Join Date: Jan 2011
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We would have preferred IPA, but it appears not to be too popular with you, isn't it?
Anyways, to Tornadus and Thundurus; we think we all can agree on that the last syllable is supposed to be an [əs] for English speakers but [us] is also appropiate. Tornadus would be [tɔrˈneɪdəs] and Thundurus [ˈθʌndərəs]. And for those who don't understand: [tɔrˈneɪdəs] = [tɔrˈneɪ] tornad [ˈθʌndərəs] = [ˈθʌndə] thunde Here are some more: Scizor: [ˈsɪzər] - similar to scissors, but without an s. Sableye: [ˈseɪbəlaɪ] - obviously a portmanteau of sable and eye, the names in the other languages ran with it Arceus: both [ˈahrsius] and [ˈahrkeus] are valid; however we think that [əs] as the last syllable would be just silly Raikou: obviously romanized Japanese, therefore [raiko] (ra-i-ko), no accents or whatsoever Last edited by Onicon; Mar 18th, 2013 at 9:00:02 AM. |
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Join Date: Dec 2008
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Because 90% of people can't read IPA... I mean really? Does ˈθʌndərəs mean anything to anyone looking at it?
Highlighting specific syllables and spelling them a way that you can only pronounce one way is a lot more logical imo... @Aboves a few posts, Rakou is one I have heard about 10 different variants of... But nothing beats Chimmy-Choo for Chimecho.
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Join Date: Jan 2011
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We can give you one for Chimecho:
It is a portmanteau of "chime" and "echo", therefore it may sound like [tʃaɪmˈɛkoʊ] (addendum: chime-MECHO, I think that should make everyone understand it). My teacher said that every English speaker can read IPA, so I learned it like hell. Has she lied? Last edited by Onicon; Mar 18th, 2013 at 9:09:40 AM. |
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I pronounce it like you just put it there, but it was hilarious to hear someone say Chimmy-Choo.
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Oh wow, I wonder how I have never noticed this thread before. As a Brazilian, I find it amusing that you guys had some... weird pronounciations for some pokémon. Some things sound rather different if I try to read it as a word in Portuguese (Tyranitar = tee-run-nee-TAH; Garchomp = Gar-SHOMP; Milotic = Mee-LOH-tique; Rayquaza = Hi-QUAH-zah; Arceus = Ah-say-us; Scolipede = Scow-LEE-peed) and I feel dumb now that I see they're completely wrong, while others I don't understand how you never got at first??? (I mean, Fer-OH-thorn is so painfully obvious!!!!)
And sometimes I pronounce Scizor as "ee-see-zor", with the first syllable being short-sounded... even if doesn't make sense in Portuguese. Derp. Also, I believe Meloetta is meh-low-eh-tah? That's more or less how I say it, I'm just not sure about the strong syllable... I say "meh-low-EH-tah" but that's me thinking in Portuguese lol. Quote:
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Join Date: Jan 2011
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Apart from that it is painful to read the custom phonetic spelling (especially every time I see "uh" due inconsistency), there are a few things slightly more disambigous.
Milotic can ['miloʊtik] or ['maɪloʊtic] (the latter one is from Seth). Now, we are not native English speakers so it depends on how you would pronounce Venus de Milo - the Milo part, not Venus. I am with the first one, so is my sister. Absol sounds a bit off in the suggestion. We believe it supposed to mean "ab sol" (sol: sun), [ab'soʊl] (does NOT sound like "soul", more like "sohl"). The first syllable of Metang changes when it evolves to Metagross for no good reason. But as said, we cannot interpret "uh", it seems to be used in the place of so many things that its form cannot be grasp anymore. Gabite: The English name is the same as the Japanese one so we don't think the accent should be on "bite" but on "ga". Regigigas is a bit off. Probably a mispelling because the sugesstion says Regigigus. Victini, we think the accent is on the first syllable like victory. Pidove, accent on the first syllable. Zebstrika, accent on the first syllable. Conkeldurr, accent on the first syllable; that could become a running joke for the 5th gen. Leavanny, accent on the first syllable. Darumaka, same name as the Japanese one, accent on the first syllable. Cofagrigus, combo breaker! Accent on the second syllable would be better. Fag! Garbodor, accent on the first syllable. Solosis, accent on the first syllable like "solo". Duosion, when you accentuate two following syllables, nothing is accentuated. Best only to accentuate the first. Reuniclus, the accent on the thrid syllable is off. Best only to accentuate the first. Swanna, we recommend a shot "a" like in swan, not a long: ['swɒna]. Escavalier, weird emphasis indeed because it is part French. Stay close to escargot and calavier, slight emphasis on the first syllable and strong accent on the last one: [ˌɛskarvəˈlɪər]. Eelektross, accent on the second syllable like electric. Mienfoo, accent on the second syllable like Mienshao and Kung Fu. Cobalion, this is not how cobalt is pronounced. Try [koʊ'bɔlɪən]. Virizion, comes from viridian: [vəˈrɪzɪən]. Meloetta: Melody + etta-suffix = [mɛləˈɛtə]. For those unfamilier with etta, try to pronounce "Marietta". The 5th gen features a lot of foreign words, so no wonder it creates a weird pronounciation. By the way, how do you pronounce Milos? |
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Join Date: Jul 2009
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" Primeape; RIME-ape"
I am fairly certain the P is not silent :P I think a lot of the pronunciations really depend on your accent. Some of these supposed "official" pronunciations are almost impossible for me to say without putting on a semi-american accent, so they seem really wierd to me.
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I've always said re-UNI-clus. Reunited Cluster, after all.
Then again, I'm not a native English speaker. Milotic, almost sure to be wrong: MY-lott-ic (as in, "this lottic is mine". Yes, I'm weird). Last edited by Cobraroll; Mar 18th, 2013 at 1:39:00 PM. |
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I'll counter your Darkrai in an old-school way Yes, most of these pronunciations are for American English speakers - they're all for rhotic accents too. Still handy, though. |
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#66 |
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Join Date: Nov 2011
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Conk-Edler. Not Conkel-DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.
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Join Date: Mar 2011
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When I heard Illumise's pronunciation on the Dex I was like "whaaaaaaa?". I always thought it was something like EE-loom-ice
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Join Date: Dec 2007
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Can't help but think they got this name wrong in English:
Timburr Gurdurr Conkurr Portmanteau of 'concrete' and 'conquer'. As for Conkeldurr, I think you're probably right, stress on the last syllable makes no sense. |
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"Mee-lows" (I'm an IPA illiterate, sorry). And then I call it "mee-LOH-tique" for no reason at all.
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For some reason, most English speakers keep calling it ['maɪloʊtic] (my-low-tic). |
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Join Date: Jul 2008
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hi, my name is milos and its is pronounced MEE-los
just clearing things up here |
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Join Date: Apr 2012
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Some of these really surprise me.
I'll tackle GEN5 first by posting how I say each pokemon which is different to the real pronounciation. Serperior: Sur-peer-ee-ur Patrat: Pa-trat Stoutland: Stout-land Munna: Muhn-ah Musharna: Muh-shar-na Pidove: Pih-doev Audino: Or-deen-oh Seismitoed: Ses-meh-toed Sawk: Sork Leavanny: Lev-uhn-ee Scolipede: Scoll-ih-peed Krookodile: Krook-uh-dile Scrafty: Scrarf-tee Sigilyph: Sig-ih-lif Tirtouga: Tur-too-ga Archen: Ar-chuhn Zoroark: Zorro-awk Reuniclus: Ree-yu-nih-klis Emolga: Eh-mole-guh Karrablast: Karra-blarst Escvalier: Ess-cuh-val-ee-er Foongus: Foon-guhs Amoongus: Uh-moon-guhs Alomomola: Aa-low-mo-mo-luh Beheeyem: Bee-hie-em Cryogonal: Cry-oh-guh-nuhl Mienshao: Mee-en-shao Druddigon: Drudd-ee-gone Bisharp: Bye-sharp Zweilous: Zway-luhs Hydreigon: Hy-dray-gone Cobalion: Co-bal-ee-on Verizion: Ver-is-ee-on Reshiram: Resh-ee-ram Keldeo: Kel-day-oh Meloetta: Mell-oh-etta |
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YES! I've thought this for ages. The "d" makes no sense in his name. It should be a play on Conquer, or Conqueror.
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but the one word phrase makes sense as timburr is timber and gurdurr is girder |
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I still think Conkerurr would be better :P
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