Pokémon X and Y Discussion - Page 119

Wazzup360 · Jan 22nd, 2013, 1:15:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat HoundofDoom72

I love pokemon. However, having played all five generations I can't say I'm all that chuffed with the new direction pokemon is going in. I for one think that the formula for the games is perfect. The introduction of a new 3D game really rocks the boat in my opinion. For me, pokemon is defined by the part 3D gameplay. When a new game comes out, the things that excite me are new pokemon, new types, new places, new trainers and new gym leaders and not someone taking a crowbar to the visual chemistry.

If I took the point of view that this was a new pokemon game, (without the change in visuals) and was judging the game purely on the merits of the pokemon advertised then you can colour my response mixed. For four (and now five) generations, the game designers have given us the choice of one of three starter type pokemon (fire, water, grass). Yes, I will grant you, they have toyed with the secondary types somewhat, with exciting additions like Empoleon, Swampert and Blaziken but history continues to repeat itself and again we have three of the same types (cue audible groans). In saying all of that, the legendary types simply look breathtaking! But come on, isn't it time to spice things up a bit when it comes to the starter types! Anybody think I'm right, half right or just downright wrong? Hop to it people.

Pokemon is a mix of innovation, and tradition. I kinda like the fact the starters staying the same types, while 2nd types spice it up.

Flaming Piranha · Jan 22nd, 2013, 1:20:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat zyrefredric

On a completely different note, I came upon this article that says "CHILDREN searching the web for videos of the latest game in the popular Pokemon franchise are being directed to hardcore PORN websites." That's just sad. I think parents should really be aware of this.

But you know what's more sad? When I shared the article to some of my friends, it turned out that when I rushed in yesterday and excitedly shared the upcoming Pokemon X, it DID cross their mind that I was referring to porn. What do they take me for?

Why are parents letting kids on the internet without being supervised anyway? Or at least put Safesearch on.

Infernis · Jan 22nd, 2013, 2:00:50 PM

Are you serious? I don't think my parents ever watched me browse the internet. Not once while I lived with them. That'd just be awkward.

labarith · Jan 22nd, 2013, 2:24:40 PM

I agree. Knowing what your children are searching for is one thing; watching them search for it is another.

The sad thing is that by not having the default have a porn-filter, google has failed parents. It wouldn't be too hard to have a censored and uncensored version, and trustworthy sites like wikipedia can surely be exempted, as although they may have pages about sex, they don't have sex pages.

Yveltal · Jan 22nd, 2013, 2:29:19 PM

Google just got more aware and is now linking you to blogs talking about how searching for Pokemon X can lead to HARDCORE POOOOOOOOOORN.
But seriously, why can't kids type in both X and Y after "Pokemon"? Stupid kids being all exclusive with their searches.

New thought. In this generation, there will be a calf Pokemon that can evolve into Miltank, Tauros or Bouffalant!

Basileus · Jan 22nd, 2013, 2:45:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Infernis

Are you serious? I don't think my parents ever watched me browse the internet. Not once while I lived with them. That'd just be awkward.

If so then you are lucky af, because my parents used to check my history ALL THE TIME. I have to hide my browser in a folder, and set internet explorer as my default just to get them to stop searching my history. They don't care anymore now that I am 16, but it was really annoying. The point is your parents have complete control over all your rights, and are able to take them away in a pinch, so be careful!!

Flaming Piranha · Jan 22nd, 2013, 3:26:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Infernis

Are you serious? I don't think my parents ever watched me browse the internet. Not once while I lived with them. That'd just be awkward.

By supervising, I didn't mean literally standing there watching them type. I meant checking history often to know what their kids are going on.

Lord Dakoth · Jan 22nd, 2013, 3:36:04 PM

Less porn. More Pokemon.

I'm wondering how long it will take the community to switch from Gen 5 competitive battling to Gen 6. Obviously, simulators just need to have new moves, Pokemon, and abilities programmed in, but Gen 6 competitive can't really take off until the community cracks the RNG. Hopefully, it will be the same or at least similar to the BW RNG.

labarith · Jan 22nd, 2013, 3:42:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Lord Dakoth

Less porn. More Pokemon.

I'm wondering how long it will take the community to switch from Gen 5 competitive battling to Gen 6. Obviously, simulators just need to have new moves, Pokemon, and abilities programmed in, but Gen 6 competitive can't really take off until the community cracks the RNG. Hopefully, it will be the same or at least similar to the BW RNG.

I, too, hope it's BW-style breeding. But, really, I'm going to start G6 competitive online battling as soon as possible, even if I just used pokeshifted pokemon (which better be possible, otherwise I think I'd just quit pokemon rather than try and start over...).

Sure, I'm going to want to test out the new guys, but I'll have plenty of fun testing out new movesets.

Infernis · Jan 22nd, 2013, 3:54:14 PM

I don't imagine it'll take too terribly long. It's been done before. Worst case scenario is that we use the old formulae with the new moves until the new formulae are discovered.

inanimate blob · Jan 22nd, 2013, 3:58:58 PM

What I'm nervous about is the new graphics...we may have to design our own sprites, people!

Flaming Piranha · Jan 22nd, 2013, 4:06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat inanimate blob

What I'm nervous about is the new graphics...we may have to design our own sprites, people!

Shouldn't be too difficult. The sprite designers over at CAP do a pretty good job.

Infernis · Jan 22nd, 2013, 4:07:12 PM

Could be. It's possible that the GUI (Pokemon menu, Pokedex) may include sprites anyway.

Flaming Piranha · Jan 22nd, 2013, 4:33:37 PM

Some people have already taken to making sprites, what do you think?

CynicalGiant · Jan 22nd, 2013, 4:39:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Infernis

Could be. It's possible that the GUI (Pokemon menu, Pokedex) may include sprites anyway.

Probably just be a rip of what the models look like from the front and the back.

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Originally Posted by Fat Flaming Piranha

Some people have already taken to making sprites, what do you think?

Incredibly rugged, but good for a first shot at it.

Flaming Piranha · Jan 22nd, 2013, 4:45:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat CynicalGiant

Probably just be a rip of what the models look like from the front and the back.

Incredibly rugged, but good for a first shot at it.

To say they've only been announced a little over 2 weeks ago, I think they're pretty good. Not GameFreak standard or anything, but it's kinda hard to make animated sprites.

CynicalGiant · Jan 22nd, 2013, 4:46:54 PM

Time for more incredibly rough and sketchy rumors!: (found here: http://pokejungle.net/2013/01/22/rumours-predicament/)

"The Starters become Grass/Steel, Fire/Psychic, and Water/Electric. They’re inspired by various European-centric archetypes…Chespin becomes a knight with chestnut armor, Fennekin a wizard with a majestic fur cloak, and Froakie a Nordic Viking with a thunder-cloud mullet/beard combo."

Seems entirely possible, but a rumor is a rumor.

I really don't like the idea of Chespin being double weak to Fennekin.

PokemonXY · Jan 22nd, 2013, 4:52:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Chaoswalker

Bug/Dark
Bug/Dragon
Bug/Ice
Bug/Normal
Bug/Psychic
Bug/Water(surskit isn't around for very long)
Dark/Electric
Dark/Normal
Dark/Psychic
Dragon/Fighting
Dragon/Grass
Dragon/Normal
Dragon/Poison
Dragon/Psychic
Dragon/Rock
Electric/Fighting
Electric/Normal
Electric/Poison
Electric/Psychic
Electric/Rock
Fighting/Flying
Fighting/Ghost
Fighting/Ground
Fighting/Ice
Fire/Grass
Fire/Ice
Fire/Normal
Fire/Poison
Fire/Water
Ghost/Grass
Ghost/Normal
Ghost/Psychic
Ghost/Rock
Grass/Ice
Ground/Normal
Ice/Normal
Ice/Poison
Ice/Rock
Ice/Steel
Normal/Poison
Normal/Rock
Normal/Steel
Normal/Water
Poison/Psychic
Poison/Rock
Poison/Steel
So 45 unused types huh? Here's hoping we get at least 10 of these knocked out this gen.

Normal and Water type exists. Bibarel is Normal/Water. Beside that, Surskit not being around much is not an excuse to put Bug/Water on the list.

Dark Fallen Angel · Jan 22nd, 2013, 5:13:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat CynicalGiant

Time for more incredibly rough and sketchy rumors!: (found here: http://pokejungle.net/2013/01/22/rumours-predicament/)

Xerneas, Ice/Steel, WHAT? I don't believe on these rumors! Xerneas was already predicted to be Grass, Steel, and even the unlikely to happen Light/Saint-type. A user on this thread even predicted him to be Dark. Xerneas doesn't nearly look like an Ice-type, if it were to be from existent types, it could be a Grass-type.

Psychic: An “Arabian” Pokemon wrapped in a brightly-colored carpet clothing.

Funny, I was thinking if Gen VI introduced an "arabian" Genie-like Pokémon, that was Psychic-type. It would be a trollish behaviour from GF if this Pokémon didn't had Wish...

PokemonXY · Jan 22nd, 2013, 5:16:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Yveltal

I think that fire area with the flame pillars might belong to an elite four member. it looked a little too dramatic to be a gym.

That's probably it, I think there's only been 1 Fire type elite four. But I think that other than an E4 room, it could be some ruins, or something belonging to the story. This is a shot in the dark, but maybe it involves some legendary.

Basileus · Jan 22nd, 2013, 5:21:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat PokemonXY

Normal and Water type exists. Bibarel is Normal/Water. Beside that, Surskit not being around much is not an excuse to put Bug/Water on the list.

there are like 80, the list he made is like from 40 pages ago...

Cobraroll · Jan 22nd, 2013, 5:27:53 PM

With Pokéfans getting older (and smarter) by the generation, with knowledge of past rumours, and GameFreak beginning to establish patterns in the franchise, it's becoming harder to tell whether a rumour is legit or not. Every rumour should be treated with a healthy dose of skepticism, though. So far, we've had several "leaks" from "trusted sources", and so far nothing of it has proven true. Yet.

CynicalGiant · Jan 22nd, 2013, 5:28:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Dark Fallen Angel

Xerneas, Ice/Steel, WHAT? I don't believe on these rumors! Xerneas was already predicted to be Grass, Steel, and even the unlikely to happen Light/Saint-type. A user on this thread even predicted him to be Dark. Xerneas doesn't nearly look like an Ice-type, if it were to be from existent types, it could be a Grass-type.

Psychic: An “Arabian” Pokemon wrapped in a brightly-colored carpet clothing.

Funny, I was thinking if Gen VI introduced an "arabian" Genie-like Pokémon, that was Psychic-type. It would be a trollish behaviour from GF if this Pokémon didn't had Wish...

Even crueler if it also learned Self-destruct.

Ice/Steel is a rather weird typing, but who knows. Game Freak doesn't always go with what makes most sense to fans or other people in general. Im doubting it compeltely, since he doesnt look Ice, but its certainly a possibility.

I want the Water/Electric Viking Frog starter thing to be real though. That sounds absolutely boss. Hoping for an electric priority physical move so he can have 2 stab priority moves. All he would need is Technician.

Infernis · Jan 22nd, 2013, 5:29:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Infernis

Quagmortar needs to happen. I'll get on spriting it.

DELIVERED.

...

FUCK IT, QUAGNOIRTAR.

...

That's a little over the top, perhaps. But I just die when I see Quagsire with that flippin' cannon arm. Oh my goodness.

Sensei_Bobbilytus · Jan 22nd, 2013, 5:31:25 PM

I think my biggest issue with the whole porn thing is the blame game.
Can you really shift responsibility to the parents? No amount of preventative effort or info can possibly reach all parents, especially if they don't know it's an issue already; meanwhile, there is very little way to have such complete control over what your kid does. You can't watch over them in every scenario just to make sure they aren't miss-googling a pokemon game, and if you do, it's not like the computer knows you're watching, any mistake can yield pornographic results and BAM, it's too late - which is a big part of the issue. It's too late. The damage is done before you have the chance to prevent it, and I don't think that much fault can be placed on the consumers or parents for not "knowing better ahead of time", regardless of what information is attempted to be presented to them.
I personally thing the names of the games are meh at best anyway, I prefer the older games named after colors/materials, but that asside I'd still think they would at least do enough homework on their own product before naming it something that might result in the exposure of it's target demographic to materials they legally should not be veiwing. Note, by the way, this is totally in reference to those who are unaware, innocent, and accidental. If you are a minor and looking up pokemon porn or porn of any other nature, that is your own issue, not the one at hand, nor is the accessablility of porn on google (although those ARE semi-related issues that also warrent discussion in other circles).

It just seems like kinda an easily avoidible debacle. Literally, ANY OTHER NAME would have avoided this issue, maybe not 100%, but largely.

Jan 22nd, 2013, 2:24:40 PM	#2954
labarith Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,682	I agree. Knowing what your children are searching for is one thing; watching them search for it is another. The sad thing is that by not having the default have a porn-filter, google has failed parents. It wouldn't be too hard to have a censored and uncensored version, and trustworthy sites like wikipedia can surely be exempted, as although they may have pages about sex, they don't have sex pages. __________________ Pearl FC: 4685 0290 3336 G4 Trading SS2 FC: 1076 5964 1610 (G4 Battle FC) White FC: 1334 7033 2830 G5 Trading Black FC: 3052 6866 4059 (G5 Battle FC) My Trade Thread: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3462950 Please respond to all "CMTs" in my thread, or I won't see it! Rate my OU team: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3464802

Jan 22nd, 2013, 3:58:58 PM	#2961
inanimate blob Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 1,114 Wherever the food is.	What I'm nervous about is the new graphics...we may have to design our own sprites, people! __________________ Yeah! ASB Team! Battle Hall Thread! Battle Factory Team! Reffing Profile! Also, check out my fly letter on the Join Avenue! Really decreased activity for the next week or two due to APs and finals. Hey look, I'm adding to my workload with a Scramble.

Jan 22nd, 2013, 4:33:37 PM	#2964
Flaming Piranha Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 254 UK	Some people have already taken to making sprites, what do you think? __________________ TEAM CHESPIN although i am sorta leaning towards Froakie at the moment

Jan 22nd, 2013, 4:46:54 PM	#2967
CynicalGiant Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 132 Mountains	Time for more incredibly rough and sketchy rumors!: (found here: http://pokejungle.net/2013/01/22/rumours-predicament/) "The Starters become Grass/Steel, Fire/Psychic, and Water/Electric. They’re inspired by various European-centric archetypes…Chespin becomes a knight with chestnut armor, Fennekin a wizard with a majestic fur cloak, and Froakie a Nordic Viking with a thunder-cloud mullet/beard combo." Seems entirely possible, but a rumor is a rumor. I really don't like the idea of Chespin being double weak to Fennekin. Last edited by CynicalGiant; Jan 22nd, 2013 at 4:57:15 PM.

Jan 22nd, 2013, 5:31:25 PM	#2975
Sensei_Bobbilytus Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 222	I think my biggest issue with the whole porn thing is the blame game. Can you really shift responsibility to the parents? No amount of preventative effort or info can possibly reach all parents, especially if they don't know it's an issue already; meanwhile, there is very little way to have such complete control over what your kid does. You can't watch over them in every scenario just to make sure they aren't miss-googling a pokemon game, and if you do, it's not like the computer knows you're watching, any mistake can yield pornographic results and BAM, it's too late - which is a big part of the issue. It's too late. The damage is done before you have the chance to prevent it, and I don't think that much fault can be placed on the consumers or parents for not "knowing better ahead of time", regardless of what information is attempted to be presented to them. I personally thing the names of the games are meh at best anyway, I prefer the older games named after colors/materials, but that asside I'd still think they would at least do enough homework on their own product before naming it something that might result in the exposure of it's target demographic to materials they legally should not be veiwing. Note, by the way, this is totally in reference to those who are unaware, innocent, and accidental. If you are a minor and looking up pokemon porn or porn of any other nature, that is your own issue, not the one at hand, nor is the accessablility of porn on google (although those ARE semi-related issues that also warrent discussion in other circles). It just seems like kinda an easily avoidible debacle. Literally, ANY OTHER NAME would have avoided this issue, maybe not 100%, but largely. __________________ "Restriction breeds Creativity" Shiny Lileep; Born Feb. 9, 2011 Shiny Duskull; Born March 23, 2012 Shiny Shroomish; Born June 29, 2012 WHITE friend code: 4341 7661 9515

Jan 22nd, 2013, 2:00:50 PM	#2953
Infernis Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 477	Are you serious? I don't think my parents ever watched me browse the internet. Not once while I lived with them. That'd just be awkward.

Jan 22nd, 2013, 2:29:19 PM	#2955
Yveltal I could be banned! Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 618 From the House of Precious	Google just got more aware and is now linking you to blogs talking about how searching for Pokemon X can lead to HARDCORE POOOOOOOOOORN. But seriously, why can't kids type in both X and Y after "Pokemon"? Stupid kids being all exclusive with their searches. New thought. In this generation, there will be a calf Pokemon that can evolve into Miltank, Tauros or Bouffalant!

Jan 22nd, 2013, 3:36:04 PM	#2958
Lord Dakoth Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 70 Taunt or gg	Less porn. More Pokemon. I'm wondering how long it will take the community to switch from Gen 5 competitive battling to Gen 6. Obviously, simulators just need to have new moves, Pokemon, and abilities programmed in, but Gen 6 competitive can't really take off until the community cracks the RNG. Hopefully, it will be the same or at least similar to the BW RNG.

Jan 22nd, 2013, 3:54:14 PM	#2960
Infernis Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 477	I don't imagine it'll take too terribly long. It's been done before. Worst case scenario is that we use the old formulae with the new moves until the new formulae are discovered.

Jan 22nd, 2013, 4:07:12 PM	#2963
Infernis Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 477	Could be. It's possible that the GUI (Pokemon menu, Pokedex) may include sprites anyway.

Jan 22nd, 2013, 5:27:53 PM	#2972
Cobraroll Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 699	With Pokéfans getting older (and smarter) by the generation, with knowledge of past rumours, and GameFreak beginning to establish patterns in the franchise, it's becoming harder to tell whether a rumour is legit or not. Every rumour should be treated with a healthy dose of skepticism, though. So far, we've had several "leaks" from "trusted sources", and so far nothing of it has proven true. Yet.