Liepard: More Painful than Hemorrhoids - Page 2

TeraVoltage · Jan 10th, 2013, 7:50:21 AM

I have no real problem with Liepard, just need a guts Gurdurr and a little luck with mach punch. but if it fails in luck you will most likely do like half to yourself in confusion...

Ghosttripsixxx · Jan 10th, 2013, 8:44:28 PM

Just started playing NU around December, Cinccino's were everywhere and imo, douchebag. So I started countering with Liepard, something with triple the douche factor. Then after finding out Absol was outtie soon, I predicted that Liepard would assume his throne as the top dark type threat in NU. While no player will ever agree with that, since Skuntank exists, I am sticking with it and trolling Liepard hard. Once players see what a Godsend Liepard is to maintaining control and momentum, and build teams around it, I expect to see Liepard jumping into the 90% usage range. I.E. Liepard runs this new meta, continue to ignore or unprepare at your own risk.

Constantinipple · Jan 11th, 2013, 1:24:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Ghosttripsixxx

Just started playing NU around December, Cinccino's were everywhere and imo, douchebag. So I started countering with Liepard, something with triple the douche factor. Then after finding out Absol was outtie soon, I predicted that Liepard would assume his throne as the top dark type threat in NU. While no player will ever agree with that, since Skuntank exists, I am sticking with it and trolling Liepard hard. Once players see what a Godsend Liepard is to maintaining control and momentum, and build teams around it, I expect to see Liepard jumping into the 90% usage range.

liepard coming in range of 90% is not a very good prediction. he also has his counters and 90% is like, impossible

Jean mi · Jan 11th, 2013, 5:12:55 AM

I have a Raichu with encore that I can use to counter Liepard : it's immune to T-wave and it can encore Liepard into an inconvenient move preferably sub but encoring into swagger works as well. The problem is that Raichu takes lots of damage if it hits itself in confusion.

Oh and just a tip : if a pokemon don't use its attack stat, you can put 0 IV on attack so that confusion and foul play do a (slightly) less damage.

Ghosttripsixxx · Jan 11th, 2013, 10:46:57 AM

Anyone smart enough to remove IV's from the attacks of their mons that don't need them, is smart enough to handle the mind games of any set Liepard can use. But what will be the answer when teams built around Liepard win, then proliferate? Players might be making this face:

Governess · Jan 11th, 2013, 11:10:10 PM

I hate battling against Liepard! ;-; Unless I have another priority user, such as Volbeat, it's such a challenge to get through the hax. Annoys me to death.
Also, great thread by the way. They way you opened it up with a story is great; kept the readers interested. Gj =P

bobbyvaporeon · Jan 22nd, 2013, 11:31:19 AM

It amazes me how a Pokemon that is so bad ingame is so good in competitive battling.

Cheapoman · Jan 22nd, 2013, 2:28:15 PM

I have had success with and against this poke. THe ragequits he induces is quite spectacular. I've ran this monster in RU with a pseudo-prankster gavantula and it has worked quite nice. Scariest thing I faced was a trace porygon2 that took liepard's prankster. >.<;

That EV spread and movepool has me wondering about any changes I might wanna make in the future.

SpecsHaxorus · Jan 22nd, 2013, 4:22:34 PM

My team is horribly weak to liepard. Unless I want to roll the dice and take a chance I won't smack myself (CB 252 Adamant sawk does about 75% to itself after a swagger). How I deal with it is by constantly switching nonstop (usually between my regirock and alomomola). With 120 NU battle this month, majority of the time i've face liepard was on turn 1, or later on only stealth rocks up so switching was never really an issue. I've seen one person running spikes support with liepard and that was the luckiest battle i've had so far.

Jan 10th, 2013, 7:50:21 AM	#26
TeraVoltage Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 51 Sinnoh	I have no real problem with Liepard, just need a guts Gurdurr and a little luck with mach punch. but if it fails in luck you will most likely do like half to yourself in confusion... __________________ Lul you are reading my signature. -Volt

Jan 10th, 2013, 8:44:28 PM	#27
Ghosttripsixxx Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 9 Cave-In-Rock	Just started playing NU around December, Cinccino's were everywhere and imo, douchebag. So I started countering with Liepard, something with triple the douche factor. Then after finding out Absol was outtie soon, I predicted that Liepard would assume his throne as the top dark type threat in NU. While no player will ever agree with that, since Skuntank exists, I am sticking with it and trolling Liepard hard. Once players see what a Godsend Liepard is to maintaining control and momentum, and build teams around it, I expect to see Liepard jumping into the 90% usage range. I.E. Liepard runs this new meta, continue to ignore or unprepare at your own risk. __________________

Jan 11th, 2013, 10:46:57 AM	#30
Ghosttripsixxx Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 9 Cave-In-Rock	Anyone smart enough to remove IV's from the attacks of their mons that don't need them, is smart enough to handle the mind games of any set Liepard can use. But what will be the answer when teams built around Liepard win, then proliferate? Players might be making this face: __________________

Jan 11th, 2013, 11:10:10 PM	#31
Governess Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 333 Never Settle For Anything Less Than 110%.	I hate battling against Liepard! ;-; Unless I have another priority user, such as Volbeat, it's such a challenge to get through the hax. Annoys me to death. Also, great thread by the way. They way you opened it up with a story is great; kept the readers interested. Gj =P __________________ -VM or PM for an OU rate; Amateur Checker for GP. Current Projects: How to Deal with Entry Hazards in NU (Article), OU Slowbro [BW2 Revamp], NU Flareon [Guts], NU Ursaring [BW2 Revamp]

Jan 22nd, 2013, 2:28:15 PM	#33
Cheapoman Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 153	I have had success with and against this poke. THe ragequits he induces is quite spectacular. I've ran this monster in RU with a pseudo-prankster gavantula and it has worked quite nice. Scariest thing I faced was a trace porygon2 that took liepard's prankster. >.<; That EV spread and movepool has me wondering about any changes I might wanna make in the future. __________________ - Where justice is denied, where poverty is enforced, where ignorance prevails, and where any one class is made to feel that society is in an organized conspiracy to oppress, rob, and degrade them, neither persons nor property will be safe.- Frederick Douglass, 1817-1895

Jan 11th, 2013, 5:12:55 AM	#29
Jean mi Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 128 France, land of X&Y	I have a Raichu with encore that I can use to counter Liepard : it's immune to T-wave and it can encore Liepard into an inconvenient move preferably sub but encoring into swagger works as well. The problem is that Raichu takes lots of damage if it hits itself in confusion. Oh and just a tip : if a pokemon don't use its attack stat, you can put 0 IV on attack so that confusion and foul play do a (slightly) less damage.

Jan 22nd, 2013, 11:31:19 AM	#32
bobbyvaporeon Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 192	It amazes me how a Pokemon that is so bad ingame is so good in competitive battling.

Jan 22nd, 2013, 4:22:34 PM	#34
SpecsHaxorus Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 6	My team is horribly weak to liepard. Unless I want to roll the dice and take a chance I won't smack myself (CB 252 Adamant sawk does about 75% to itself after a swagger). How I deal with it is by constantly switching nonstop (usually between my regirock and alomomola). With 120 NU battle this month, majority of the time i've face liepard was on turn 1, or later on only stealth rocks up so switching was never really an issue. I've seen one person running spikes support with liepard and that was the luckiest battle i've had so far.