Seasonal Ladder - December (Winter Wonderland)

zdrup15 · Dec 14th, 2012, 12:25:38 PM

Ok so the new ladder is now up and ready to go! This month's ladder is sponsored by:

Enjoy the many Ice-types, pixies, star pokemon, and raindeers on the ladder! Also, permanent Hail (yes, without Abomasnow or Snover needed) and a special Present. Literally, because Present was changed and it has some very cool possiblities now! Check Zarel's post right after this one to see exactly what awaits you.

Since there were some Pokemon with the potential to ruin all of our fun (looking at you Jirachi, Victini, and Chandelure), we had to make one or two changes to their moveset to make sure they weren't making others' lives miserable.

Having said all that, this is the list of Pokemon you'll run into in Winter Wonderland:

Winter Wonderland's available Pokemon

***Zarel**** · Dec 14th, 2012, 1:12:55 PM

The new Present's mechanics:

The foe receives a random present:

25% The present was a bomb! (200 base power attack)
15% The present was a makeover! (2 stats lowered, 1 stat raised)
5% The present was confusion! (confusion)
5% The present was Disable! (Disable)
5% The present was a taunt! (Taunt)
5% The present was some seeds! (Leech Seed)
5% The present was an embargo! (Embargo)
5% The present was a music box! (Perish Song)
5% The present was a curse! (Ghost-type Curse)
5% The present was Torment! (Torment)
5% The present was a trap! (partial trapping)
5% The present was a root! (Ingrain)
5% The present was psychic powers! (Telekinesis)
5% The present was fatigue! (must recharge)

**Arcticblast** · Dec 14th, 2012, 4:41:01 PM

The new Present is so cool...

chuckeroo777 · Dec 14th, 2012, 8:35:57 PM

In the perish song and curse presents, I assume it only affects the opponent?

***Zarel**** · Dec 14th, 2012, 9:35:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat chuckeroo777

In the perish song and curse presents, I assume it only affects the opponent?

Yes, that's correct.

jim995 · Dec 16th, 2012, 6:50:45 PM

Is the bomb a special or physical attack?

Manitary · Dec 16th, 2012, 10:37:37 PM

I think it's physical since a +2def Miltank took only 10% from a Blissey (and 42% from an Azumarill)

Level 51 · Dec 17th, 2012, 10:28:01 AM

Confirming, the bomb is physical. gg blissey :)

Master of the Six Kings · Dec 17th, 2012, 12:30:45 PM

Sawsbuck isnt in winter form, so if thats something that can be changed, that'd be awesome. Winter form is best anyway!

zdrup15 · Dec 17th, 2012, 1:22:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Master of the Six Kings

Sawsbuck isnt in winter form, so if thats something that can be changed, that'd be awesome. Winter form is best anyway!

Yeah I asked Zarel if we could have that but Sawsbuck forms aren't implemented on PS! yet. But regular Sawsbuck is pretty badass!

SHUCKLE MAN · Dec 20th, 2012, 10:49:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Zarel

The new Present's mechanics:

The foe receives a random present:

25% The present was a bomb! (200 base power attack)
15% The present was a makeover! (2 stats lowered, 1 stat raised)
5% The present was confusion! (confusion)
5% The present was Disable! (Disable)
5% The present was a taunt! (Taunt)
5% The present was some seeds! (Leech Seed)
5% The present was an embargo! (Embargo)
5% The present was a music box! (Perish Song)
5% The present was a curse! (Ghost-type Curse)
5% The present was Torment! (Torment)
5% The present was a trap! (partial trapping)
5% The present was a root! (Ingrain)
5% The present was psychic powers! (Telekinesis)
5% The present was fatigue! (must recharge)

This is so cool. Game Freak should do this for the real Present for next generation.

HackerKing · Dec 20th, 2012, 10:14:46 PM

How do we play this metagame?

Manitary · Dec 21st, 2012, 6:38:46 AM

Selecting "[Seasonal] Winter Wonderland" from the dropdown menu

HackerKing · Dec 21st, 2012, 6:16:27 PM

If a pokemon with Serene Grace uses Present, what happens?

***Zarel**** · Dec 21st, 2012, 10:33:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat HackerKing

If a pokemon with Serene Grace uses Present, what happens?

Nothing different; none of the Present effects are secondary effects.

Satisfaction · Jan 26th, 2013, 6:12:54 PM

With winter ending will we have a spring meta with perma rain?

Dec 14th, 2012, 12:25:38 PM	#1
zdrup15 Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,720	Seasonal Ladder - December (Winter Wonderland) Ok so the new ladder is now up and ready to go! This month's ladder is sponsored by: Enjoy the many Ice-types, pixies, star pokemon, and raindeers on the ladder! Also, permanent Hail (yes, without Abomasnow or Snover needed) and a special Present. Literally, because Present was changed and it has some very cool possiblities now! Check Zarel's post right after this one to see exactly what awaits you. Since there were some Pokemon with the potential to ruin all of our fun (looking at you Jirachi, Victini, and Chandelure), we had to make one or two changes to their moveset to make sure they weren't making others' lives miserable. Having said all that, this is the list of Pokemon you'll run into in Winter Wonderland: Winter Wonderland's available Pokemon Raichu (must have Present) Nidoqueen Nidoking Clefable (must have Present) Wigglytuff (must have Present) Rapidash Dewgong Cloyster Exeggutor Starmie Jynx Lapras Snorlax Articuno Azumarill (must have Present) Granbull (must have Present) Delibird Stantler Miltank (must have Present) Blissey (must have Present) Swalot Lunatone Castform Chimecho Glalie Walrein Regice Jirachi (can't have Iron Head) Bronzong Chatot Abomasnow Weavile Togekiss (must have Present) Glaceon Probopass Froslass Rotom-Frost Uxie Mesprit Azelf Victini (can't have Blue Flare or V-Create: WARNING: this will not take effect until tomorrow because zdrup15 is a stupidhead) Vanilluxe Sawsbuck Chandelure (can't have Shadow Tag and its strongest Fire-type move available is Flame Burst) Beartic Cryogonal Last edited by Zarel; Dec 14th, 2012 at 9:25:43 PM.

Dec 14th, 2012, 1:12:55 PM	#2
*Zarel >> BEGIN POSTBIT Super Moderator** Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 1,134 >> END POSTBIT	The new Present's mechanics: The foe receives a random present: 25% The present was a bomb! (200 base power attack) 15% The present was a makeover! (2 stats lowered, 1 stat raised) 5% The present was confusion! (confusion) 5% The present was Disable! (Disable) 5% The present was a taunt! (Taunt) 5% The present was some seeds! (Leech Seed) 5% The present was an embargo! (Embargo) 5% The present was a music box! (Perish Song) 5% The present was a curse! (Ghost-type Curse) 5% The present was Torment! (Torment) 5% The present was a trap! (partial trapping) 5% The present was a root! (Ingrain) 5% The present was psychic powers! (Telekinesis) 5% The present was fatigue! (must recharge) __________________ Pokemon Showdown \| Replay player \| No, I am not impressed that you know that my name is Guangcong Luo. The PS website says "Copyright Guangcong Luo" at the bottom, ffs.

Dec 14th, 2012, 4:41:01 PM	#3
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Dec 17th, 2012, 10:28:01 AM	#8
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Dec 20th, 2012, 10:14:46 PM	#12
HackerKing Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 54	How do we play this metagame? __________________ -HackerKing http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3478770]Volt-Turn to Victory - OU RMT

Dec 14th, 2012, 8:35:57 PM	#4
chuckeroo777 Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 77	In the perish song and curse presents, I assume it only affects the opponent?

Dec 16th, 2012, 6:50:45 PM	#6
jim995 Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 6 Massachusetts	Is the bomb a special or physical attack?

Dec 16th, 2012, 10:37:37 PM	#7
Manitary Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 153 Italy	I think it's physical since a +2def Miltank took only 10% from a Blissey (and 42% from an Azumarill)

Dec 17th, 2012, 12:30:45 PM	#9
Master of the Six Kings Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 791 Where soccer is the correct terminology and bacon isn't dishonest	Sawsbuck isnt in winter form, so if thats something that can be changed, that'd be awesome. Winter form is best anyway!

Dec 21st, 2012, 6:38:46 AM	#13
Manitary Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 153 Italy	Selecting "[Seasonal] Winter Wonderland" from the dropdown menu

Dec 21st, 2012, 6:16:27 PM	#14
HackerKing Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 54	If a pokemon with Serene Grace uses Present, what happens? __________________ -HackerKing http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3478770]Volt-Turn to Victory - OU RMT

Jan 26th, 2013, 6:12:54 PM	#16
Satisfaction Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 189 America	With winter ending will we have a spring meta with perma rain?