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most major metagame threats are not affected or absorb them (venusaur, tentacruel, every steel type ever made, any mon that floats), and the selection of pokemon that set them are extremely restricted, not to mention most of them have better things to do with that moveslot. there are some kinds of team that will, by good fortune, be weak to tspikes (certain sorts of offense) but it's vastly outweighed by the number that really don't care
there are a few places where tspikes are generally considered "viable" or even good, eg subroost kyurem + tspike cruel on hail, but they're pretty rare and generally you should not be using them. |
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Join Date: Sep 2012
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I'm just doing this, because it doesn't look like anyone's going to look back on the previous page.
What are some good partners for specially defensive gastrodon? |
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Join Date: May 2012
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Gastrodon can receive ice type moves aimed at dragonite but, sadly, he can't afford powerful physical dragon type moves such as Outrage.
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Join Date: Apr 2012
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I'd recommend a spread of 252 hp/ 192 def/ 64 spdef for maximum bulk and to partner well with specially defensive celebi and heatran |
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Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 172
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Thanks for the help on me last question.
What are the advantages of using Psyshock over Psychic on Alakazam?
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Psyshock is to hit Pokemon with higher Special Defense than Physical Defense, namely Blissey as well as Calm Mind users
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Join Date: Feb 2012
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This may be stupid but. Does landy-t have sheer force? I saw that it had in its analysis page, but when I visited the usage statistics, it has no mention of sheer force. Help?
Edit: I don't thin it has sheer force, but then why is it in the analysis page? |
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Sheer force is Landorus' and Lando-T's Dream World ability.
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Join Date: Jan 2011
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Landorus-T is outclassed by Landorus in Sheer Force because its Speed and SAtk is lower. The defenses are the same, so outside of Intimidate there is no use for Landorus-T. Pardon, there is no use for Sheer Force Landorus-T, that's better
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Landorus-T can only have Intimidate. All Landorus, regardless of ability, will gain Intimidate (and cat powers!) when their forme changes to Therian.
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Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 50
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What's a good website to post pictures to use in an RMT (or anyother post, for that matter)? Because iirc, you can't upload pictures directly from your computer to a post, right?
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Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 172
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is adamant max attack, max hp TTar with chopple berry viable?
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Join Date: Oct 2012
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@Arceus Nui, personally, I just copy paste from Smogon's analysis pages.
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Join Date: Apr 2012
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I would think so, it could get some easy surprise ko's on things such as alakazam and gengar's focus blast. Also, being able to switch moves and use stealth rocks would give it an advantage over the more common choiced sets.
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Join Date: Jun 2012
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Join Date: Feb 2011
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Sorry for being a little bit unclear about this. I wanna use a picture that I made myself (so not a sprite, or any picture I would be able find online) , so what's a good website to upload that picture, since I can't upload things directly from my computer
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I'm currently running Crobat on my stall team, and I've been contemplating whether or not it needs all of the Speed EVs I give it (max Speed Jolly). I pulled up the Speed Tiers article, and it showed the following entries (up to the last I-have-to-outrun-this one):
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Stat EVs base stat (boost) Pokemon ------------------------------------------- 394 - max+ base 130 (+0) - Jolteon, Aerodactyl, my current Crobat 393 - max+ base 70 (+1) - Politoed 391 - max base 81 (+1) - Gyarados 388 - max base 80 (+1) - Dragonite 383 - max+ base 125 (+0) - Weavile 375 - 212 base 80 (+1) - Dragonite 374 - 176+ base 130 (+0) - my intended Crobat 372 - max+ base 120 (+0) - Alakazam, Dugtrio, Sceptile (must outspeed these)
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Join Date: Sep 2010
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Given how minimal the bulk increase will be, you might as well run it at that speed if you need it to kill scarftoed, as while Scarf Politoed is rare, it still exists, and not losing to it is more important then having a handful of more hitpoints. Otherwise, if the rest of your team can handle scarftoed, might as well.
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Join Date: Jun 2011
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Hmm,
Whenever I've battled Crobat in OU, SR damage has really dapened its ability to wall smaller hits. I'm on a proxy and currently cannot access a calculator so I cannot fully answer your question at the moment; however, with SRs running everywhere and strong water STABs, I don't think that its going to be living too many hits anyway. Your better off investing as much speed as possible. With that said, if for some reason I'm wrong (very possible), you should at least run enough speed to outspeed 388, as not many people are running max (edit: JOLLY) Gyara anyway so I don't think that speed # is really important. However, Scarf Politoed is not uncommon on PO. I don't know why players don't use it on PS, why these usage statistics vary upon server confuses the fuck outta me, but I think its important and used enough to outspeed Scarf Politoed in my honest opinion, since Crobat is usually a lead and all you'd want to outspeed it. I hope this helps answer your question ^-^ (tl;tr: crobat even with some hp investment won't be that bulky anyway in OU and with SR weakness its really hard to every be able to abuse it nonetheless even if it could brag a small feat like tanking +1 Espeed from DNite).
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Join Date: Oct 2012
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I obviously don't know your team but I'd assume if a stall team's only answer to Scarf Politoed is a Crobat, it has some pretty inherent flaws. If you have anything remotely decent to switch into unboosted Politoed you can probably afford to invest some bulk.
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Join Date: Mar 2011
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I'll say yes, Crobat damage output only matters if it's running Life Orb and 252 atk (where it can OHKO Latios and offensive Gyarados/Nite after SR), so you don't really lose anything by lowering its speed without much atk investment, and the extra bulk makes it easier for you to taunt and roost stall things like Ferro's Gyro ball, or just not let Gyarados set up at all (or even take a +1 waterfall from the sub bounce gyara set after SR, asumming 232 hp /0 def = 68.3% - 80.5%). Like you said, Scarf Toed is really rare, and besides I don't really think it can do much against the rest of your team since it's stall, and even then, 232 hp/ 0 spD Crobat can also take an Ice Beam/Hydro Pump under rain after SR.
So to summarize, Crobat doesn't need full speed unless you're running also full atk.
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For reference, I have a bunch of ways around Politoed in general, which is why this question is actually relevant. Since the main response has been to reduce the Speed, I'll go with that.
Shurt, why bother outspeeding +1 Dragonite when Crobat can't really do anything to it after a boost anyway? (Brave Bird 2HKOs after Stealth Rock, but Crobat gets smashed by Outrage, so...)
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Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 115
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How do you test a team? Whenever I play with a team, I almost never know what to change to make it better if it loses alot of matches. What is the key to doing this? I really want to atleast attempt to make changes by myself so when I post a RMT, I can tell them what problems my team has against specific Pokemon and they can help me better.
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Join Date: Apr 2012
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If this is difficult for you may want to try saving your replays which is very easy on PS! then you can go back and view them to identify threats that pop up regularly. Then once you know the problem it will be easier to fix it, or to ask for help in an RMT to fix that specific weakness. |
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