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Basileus · Jan 27th, 2013, 11:40:52 AM

They don't put in counter features because that crap is ridiculously hard to program, and it would add a new strategy to the game that would be almost impossible to master. Would they base it off of random chance? Could you command a Pokemon to counter? Could a Pokemon counter on switch in? So much goes into the idea that it is better to just let it stay as is...

Majestic Electric · Jan 30th, 2013, 8:13:19 PM

Okay, how can this thing learn Fly?

Sure it has wings (obviously since its a moth), but its part Fire-type. Wouldn't that mean the trainer would get severely burned while riding on it?

Zowayix · Jan 30th, 2013, 9:50:17 PM

I think most Fire-types are able to control their generation of fire at will. Otherwise you couldn't ride on a Rapidash/Arcanine or hug a Growlithe (anime).

**R_N** · Jan 31st, 2013, 1:22:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Majestic Electric

Okay, how can this thing learn Fly?

Sure it has wings (obviously since its a moth), but its part Fire-type. Wouldn't that mean the trainer would get severely burned while riding on it?

well it is not literally on fire, so no
no it would not

TM13IceBeam · Jan 31st, 2013, 4:53:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Majestic Electric

Okay, how can this thing learn Fly?

Sure it has wings (obviously since its a moth), but its part Fire-type. Wouldn't that mean the trainer would get severely burned while riding on it?

I'd probably have reservations riding on this:

celever · Jan 31st, 2013, 12:01:54 PM

I was actually checking that lumineon learned quiver dance on the theorymon thread, when I noticed this. It learns frickin' splash!
Now, splash in japanede does translate to hop, which explains why it was given to spoink and hoppip, but there are still some pokemon which it is strange on. Wailmer, or more to the point, wailord (both by level up). Wailmer/ord can neither bounce nor roll around in shallow water. I mean come on, it can't. Wynaut. Well, wynaut I suppose! Delibird... yeah... Cleffa actually learns it by level up! I don't know how sunkern bounces, but the biggest offender of them all...

That is just wrong on so many levels.

inanimate blob · Jan 31st, 2013, 4:01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat celever

I was actually checking that lumineon learned quiver dance on the theorymon thread, when I noticed this. It learns frickin' splash!
Now, splash in japanede does translate to hop, which explains why it was given to spoink and hoppip, but there are still some pokemon which it is strange on. Wailmer, or more to the point, wailord (both by level up). Wailmer/ord can neither bounce nor roll around in shallow water. I mean come on, it can't. Wynaut. Well, wynaut I suppose! Delibird... yeah... Cleffa actually learns it by level up! I don't know how sunkern bounces, but the biggest offender of them all...

That is just wrong on so many levels.

Well, by that same logic this learning Spash:

is also blasphemous.

celever · Jan 31st, 2013, 4:07:08 PM

Why? I mean, magikarp learns it (it's pre-evo) but I can easily imagine it hopping. I'd like to see snorlax manage both feet off the ground at the same time unless it is using body slam.

inanimate blob · Jan 31st, 2013, 4:10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat celever

Why? I mean, magikarp learns it (it's pre-evo) but I can easily imagine it hopping. I'd like to see snorlax manage both feet off the ground at the same time unless it is using body slam.

Have you not played Super Smash Bros.? He does pretty well jumping there. :3

Wishy · Jan 31st, 2013, 7:26:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat celever

I was actually checking that lumineon learned quiver dance on the theorymon thread, when I noticed this. It learns frickin' splash!
Now, splash in japanede does translate to hop, which explains why it was given to spoink and hoppip, but there are still some pokemon which it is strange on. Wailmer, or more to the point, wailord (both by level up). Wailmer/ord can neither bounce nor roll around in shallow water. I mean come on, it can't. Wynaut. Well, wynaut I suppose! Delibird... yeah... Cleffa actually learns it by level up! I don't know how sunkern bounces, but the biggest offender of them all...

That is just wrong on so many levels.

"Wailmer can store water inside its body to transform itself into a ball for bouncing on the ground. By filling itself up with more water, this Pokémon can elevate the height of its bounces." [Sapphire Dex entry]

Also why it learns Bounce.

Basileus · Jan 31st, 2013, 7:53:25 PM

Snorlax's splash should do damage if it makes physical contact, I mean seriously...

inanimate blob · Jan 31st, 2013, 8:48:13 PM

Maybe Wailord's Bounce should be an instakill, causing you to take your entire party back to the Pokèmon Center in shame. :3

If only it were as dense as water.

The Agonist · Jan 31st, 2013, 9:53:35 PM

If only it actually weighed as much as a 47' whale should.

Squishyfrog · Jan 31st, 2013, 10:31:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Majestic Electric

Okay, how can this thing learn Fly?

Sure it has wings (obviously since its a moth), but its part Fire-type. Wouldn't that mean the trainer would get severely burned while riding on it?

It doesn't matter if the trainer would get burned or not(though I don't think they would), the point is it can fly, so it can learn Fly.

jackm · Feb 2nd, 2013, 10:09:15 PM

Garchomp doesn't learn fly either, but the current hypothesis (given that it is depicted everywhere as flying 0_O) is that it doesn't learn fly because the type of flight that it partakes in-low altitude, short distance, high speed-isn't fitting of the HM definition of the move. Same thing here.

mcFlareon · Feb 3rd, 2013, 6:40:30 AM

I imagine if Volcarona did learn fly it would use it's legs to carry the trainer instead- sort of like Sabrina's Venomoth or Yellow's Butterfree in Pokemon Adventures. So there would be less chance of a burn if it did have burning wings.

**R_N** · Feb 3rd, 2013, 2:11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat jackm

Garchomp doesn't learn fly either, but the current hypothesis (given that it is depicted everywhere as flying 0_O) is that it doesn't learn fly because the type of flight that it partakes in-low altitude, short distance, high speed-isn't fitting of the HM definition of the move. Same thing here.

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Originally Posted by Fat mcFlareon

I imagine if Volcarona did learn fly it would use it's legs to carry the trainer instead- sort of like Sabrina's Venomoth or Yellow's Butterfree in Pokemon Adventures. So there would be less chance of a burn if it did have burning wings.

Guys....guys it does learn fly
that's what he's saying

mcFlareon · Feb 3rd, 2013, 7:32:07 PM

Oops worded the post wrong, I meant that if it had Fly in its movepool that's how he would use it xD

anyway,

I don't get how Blastoise learns Dragon Tail, it doesn't seem like it's tail is long or strong enough to force the foe to switch back. It doesn't even seem that dragon-related either.

Also

How can it use Whirlwind (egg move)?

BMO · Feb 3rd, 2013, 7:48:15 PM

How can this cow use thunder wave? Where does the electricity come from? I've lost like three battles due to T-Wave from Miltank.

Why!?

breh · Feb 3rd, 2013, 7:55:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat mcFlareon

How can it use Whirlwind (egg move)?

As with any animal, what it eats has to come out from somewhere, I guess...
It's probably just a loud roar

@Miltank: a lot of normal-types have the ability to generate electricity in some capacity; it's not that easily explained.

BMO · Feb 3rd, 2013, 8:01:01 PM

I guess Miltank sprays milk that paralyzes

The Agonist · Feb 3rd, 2013, 8:27:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat BMO

How can this cow use thunder wave? Where does the electricity come from? I've lost like three battles due to T-Wave from Miltank.

Why!?

most normal types have the ability to use elemental moves to some capacity.

TM13IceBeam · Feb 4th, 2013, 5:49:49 AM

normal types have a really weird movepool with some inexplainable stuff such as thunderbolt linoone

celever · Mar 9th, 2013, 11:12:42 AM

Bumping, because apparently two people linking it as an original to two threads isn't enough.

MB Espeon · Mar 9th, 2013, 3:49:07 PM

To be fair, the title doesn't make it immediately obvious.

Did someone cover flamethrower Slowpoke-line yet?

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Basileus Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 267 The ice kingdom	Snorlax's splash should do damage if it makes physical contact, I mean seriously... __________________ ~Arguing with a fool proves there are two~

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Jan 31st, 2013, 12:01:54 PM	#356
celever Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,081 I HATE COD	I was actually checking that lumineon learned quiver dance on the theorymon thread, when I noticed this. It learns frickin' splash! Now, splash in japanede does translate to hop, which explains why it was given to spoink and hoppip, but there are still some pokemon which it is strange on. Wailmer, or more to the point, wailord (both by level up). Wailmer/ord can neither bounce nor roll around in shallow water. I mean come on, it can't. Wynaut. Well, wynaut I suppose! Delibird... yeah... Cleffa actually learns it by level up! I don't know how sunkern bounces, but the biggest offender of them all... That is just wrong on so many levels.

Jan 31st, 2013, 4:07:08 PM	#358
celever Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,081 I HATE COD	Why? I mean, magikarp learns it (it's pre-evo) but I can easily imagine it hopping. I'd like to see snorlax manage both feet off the ground at the same time unless it is using body slam.

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Feb 2nd, 2013, 10:09:15 PM	#365
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Feb 3rd, 2013, 6:40:30 AM	#366
mcFlareon Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 82	I imagine if Volcarona did learn fly it would use it's legs to carry the trainer instead- sort of like Sabrina's Venomoth or Yellow's Butterfree in Pokemon Adventures. So there would be less chance of a burn if it did have burning wings.

Feb 3rd, 2013, 7:32:07 PM	#368
mcFlareon Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 82	Oops worded the post wrong, I meant that if it had Fly in its movepool that's how he would use it xD anyway, I don't get how Blastoise learns Dragon Tail, it doesn't seem like it's tail is long or strong enough to force the foe to switch back. It doesn't even seem that dragon-related either. Also How can it use Whirlwind (egg move)?

Feb 3rd, 2013, 7:48:15 PM	#369
BMO Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 5	How can this cow use thunder wave? Where does the electricity come from? I've lost like three battles due to T-Wave from Miltank. Why!?

Feb 3rd, 2013, 8:01:01 PM	#371
BMO Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 5	I guess Miltank sprays milk that paralyzes

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Mar 9th, 2013, 11:12:42 AM	#374
celever Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,081 I HATE COD	Bumping, because apparently two people linking it as an original to two threads isn't enough.

Mar 9th, 2013, 3:49:07 PM	#375
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