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Feb 1st, 2013, 4:14:18 PM
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OU Stats — January 2013
OU Usage Stats
OU Metagame Analysis
OU Lead Usage
Moveset Statistics as usual, thanks for providing these Antar  Antar sez: Guys, in case you didn't realize, for the first time ever, THESE STATS ARE WEIGHTED! Just keep that in mind. Last edited by Antar; Feb 3rd, 2013 at 8:46:24 AM. |
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Infernape used more than Jellicent, Landorus, Celebi, Deo-D, and Hippowdon...disgraceful. Thanks as usual Antar
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Feb 1st, 2013, 4:40:32 PM
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Really surprised Deoxys-D is that low. I really see him a lot more than I do Cloyster, and they're right next to each other
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Feb 1st, 2013, 5:00:44 PM
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| 13 | Keldeo | 11.48675% | 81733 | 8.598% | 61302 | 8.001% |
Look, ma! Keldeo's getting the usage it should actually be getting! | 86 | Charizard | 1.12861% | 19020 | 2.001% | 15146 | 1.977% | ... This piece of shit is being used more than Sandslash, something that, I dunno, actually has a niche? | 53 | Haxorus | 3.89987% | 41675 | 4.384% | 31412 | 4.100% | Thing's right on the edge of dropping to UU. brb making a Haxorus team and spamming Haxorus because I don't want to deal with this thing in UU in a couple of months | 18 | Gliscor | 9.85896% | 98594 | 10.372% | 78437 | 10.238% | I'm honestly surprised this thing's still getting respectable usage. It's really not that good with all the Rain teams running around. That, and setting up on Protects is awesome. | 30 | Infernape | 7.18132% | 75695 | 7.963% | 60746 | 7.929% | Stop this. This isn't DPP, why are people still using this thing? It's really not that good. | 48 | Gastrodon | 4.48809% | 39103 | 4.114% | 31872 | 4.160% | Gastrodon is terrible and needs to drop. Seriously, you do not want to get me started on how terrible I believe Gastrodon is. This thing coming in on a Water-type attack is about as predictable as Scizor clicking Bullet Punch. Outside of the very few Pokemon Gastrodon can wall, it's absolutely atrocious. Every time I faced one, I found it grossly underwhelming and easy to kill. Seriously, please stop using Gastrodon. It's so bad. Anyway, Scizor at #1.... Again. And, as usual, Politoed is the king of the weathers... Ugh. These stats are so predictable. I don't really like Landorus-I's low usage though. That thing is really good.
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Feb 1st, 2013, 5:02:04 PM
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Thank you, shut up drizzle haters! (That or these usage stats sucks.... ThundyT needs more usage pls)
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Feb 1st, 2013, 5:06:57 PM
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...Except "weatherless" is literally the widest possible descriptor that could be used except "Pokémon." This just shows that weather has finally overtaken weatherless, which is what the anti-weather camp (including myself) have been fearing.
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Feb 1st, 2013, 5:07:30 PM
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Yeah, and apparently 22% is SO DAMN LOW! Wow, really? Also, I assure you a large portion of this is skewed by the noobs who have no idea what they are doing and use shit like Charizard and Electivire. I don't know for sure, but I'm willing to bet that the percentage of Rain usage on an equivalent to the old 1337 stats would be much higher. These cannot be used as an accurate tool to describe the dominance of Rain. 9 times out of 10, the usage stats suck. And why? Because the noobs who don't have any clue what they're doing (i.e. >50% of PS battlers) skew the stats. Unfortunately, stats that fully weed out the noobs aren't available Also: sand..........................17.13433% sun........................... 9.68348% hail.......................... 2.93161% So... 22+17+10+3 = 52%-ish usage for weather? Huh.
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Feb 1st, 2013, 5:12:40 PM
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But weatherless is double that of rain. seriously, the rain haters are obviously over exaggerating. Also its a given fact weather is usually better than weatherless; however, 48% is still quite a lot I assure you. Also, I was pinpointing rain, not weather as a whole thank you very much. Rain is used less than 1/4 of the time, while weatherless is used around 1/2 of the time. More or less you'll be facing a weatherless before rain, which was my point. According to these stats, weatherless is more dominant that rain.
Also, I assure you, the rain usage is also used more by n00bs since its easier to use and the fact that they will all spam the same standard shit. So that point is moot since you could pull that n00b arguement for all these usage stats. Also, I believe I mentioned that these usage stats might suck lol
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Feb 1st, 2013, 5:15:35 PM
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Okay, that's true. But how much is DragMag used? How prominent was Deo-S Hyper Offense (if it actually was super common than ignore this sentence)? Being extremely common and being overpowered are not one and the same. As Deo-D's usage shows, he is not that common but people are still calling for a suspect.
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Feb 1st, 2013, 5:26:39 PM
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Lord of Bays, I just want to make this clear:
I was pinpointing the anti-rain camp, not the anti-weather camp. Deo-S was super common (but ignore me ^^ <3). Deo-D is getting called for suspect?!? (Ok I'll leave me comments on that if he gets suspect on the discussion page -____-. I would rather suspect rain tbh, -even though I'm against its ban lol-, but if that left than DeoD would be well on its way too you watch!). Anyway, you have a good point too. Just because rain isn't being supported by usage stats doesn't make it broken, I get it, I just wanted to point out that its simply not being used as much as it was implied the past few months. EDIT: Also Heatran is #6 WTF lol
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Feb 1st, 2013, 5:26:48 PM
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Looks like the cloyster fad is finally over and little keldeo is getting the use he diserves
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Feb 1st, 2013, 5:37:33 PM
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Ah yes, more stats to speak on.
| 1 | Scizor | 23.15972% | 191970 | 20.195% | 151871 | 19.823% | | 2 | Politoed | 21.72519% | 177502 | 18.673% | 162102 | 21.158% | | 3 | Ferrothorn | 19.41631% | 170328 | 17.918% | 147629 | 19.269% | | 4 | Jirachi | 16.99764% | 132749 | 13.965% | 109403 | 14.280% | | 5 | Dragonite | 16.30085% | 152001 | 15.990% | 118567 | 15.476% | Nothin' too surprisin here. | 10 | Latios | 13.47999% | 105049 | 11.051% | 82711 | 10.796% | | 11 | Terrakion | 12.99252% | 97214 | 10.227% | 71421 | 9.322% | Two of the biggest powerhouses in OU are doing real well. Keep it up. | 13 | Keldeo | 11.48675% | 81733 | 8.598% | 61302 | 8.001% | Go, Keldeo, go! Show 'em how boss you are! | 22 | Landorus-Therian | 8.67255% | 62606 | 6.586% | 54159 | 7.069% | | 28 | Latias | 7.34539% | 57202 | 6.018% | 44866 | 5.856% | It makes my day to see these two getting Top 30. Keep it up, you two! | 29 | Tornadus-Therian | 7.19986% | 51180 | 5.384% | 39434 | 5.147% | Interesting. Ubernadus-T was used this much before getting the boot. | 30 | Infernape | 7.18132% | 75695 | 7.963% | 60746 | 7.929% |  | 33 | Landorus | 6.93382% | 49763 | 5.235% | 38664 | 5.047% | At least Landorus-I is getting some more credit. | 35 | Celebi | 6.48850% | 52288 | 5.501% | 42857 | 5.594% | Keep climbing up there Celebi. | 39 | Deoxys-Defense | 6.27287% | 54854 | 5.771% | 50248 | 6.559% | Needs More Usage | 52 | Reuniclus | 4.25971% | 40334 | 4.243% | 31530 | 4.115% | | 53 | Haxorus | 3.89987% | 41675 | 4.384% | 31412 | 4.100% | Please no no no. | 55 | Abomasnow | 2.93260% | 27835 | 2.928% | 25193 | 3.288% | Needs more Obamasnow. | 63 | Tornadus | 1.85984% | 15603 | 1.641% | 12073 | 1.576% | I'm betting on this being OU again. I'm betting on it.
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Feb 1st, 2013, 5:46:58 PM
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weird how jirachi has actually risen in usage with the banning of torn-t.
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Feb 1st, 2013, 5:47:25 PM
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49% of weatherless teams means something like 24% of weatherless battle.
Agree that Deoxys-D is really underused for it's value, as well as Haxorus and Reuniclus. Jirachi 4th, it as really increased in usage. Hopefully it may decrease with the Torn-T ban ? EDIT : Milos, Torn-T wasn't banned most of the month, you have to wait next month to really know. Also, it would be really fine to have the stat of, saying, 1500+ ladder. There is maybe a little thinking needed about how to do that correctly, but the global stats don't have enough meaning. |
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Feb 1st, 2013, 5:50:21 PM
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28 | Latias | 7.34539% | 57202 | 6.018% | 44866 | 5.856% |
Fuck yeah! Finally I can stop whining about how this thing gets terrible usage. It's still lower then it should be, however I think many are starting to realize that her LO Tank set is soooo good. Most used to only use her CM set, so now I'm thinking that she's used for her more viable offensive roles now. Life Orb 24.346% That confirms my assumption. Keep it up guys! | 30 | Infernape | 7.18132% | 75695 | 7.963% | 60746 | 7.929% | Well at least it dropped since last month, thank the lord. I wish this thing was UU soooo badd. Since UU is pretty much the old OU, his Mixed Ape set would actually be amazing like it was in DPP! Although he's got some competition from Darmanitan, Infernape would be more useful for his move pool and dual STAB, while Darm is a better user of Life Orb and Choice Scarf with dat 140 base attack stat and Sheer Force. Infernape is more balanced offensively, where as Darm is more of a physical juggernaut. 42 | Kyurem-Black | 5.71378% | 49518 | 5.209% | 37469 | 4.891% | This thing sucks move pool wise, but it's a great mixed attacker with his Sub Roost set. People really ignore the fact that he's bulky as well, and under a Sub he's quite hard to take down without Super Effective attacks. Everyone focuses on his Choice Banded or Choice Scarfed sets, but if you look into his other options he can be quite effective, even on weatherless teams. Use him more so he doesn't drop to UU like in PO 0_0 53 | Haxorus | 3.89987% | 41675 | 4.384% | 31412 | 4.100% | Probably going to be UU by next month. If it goes to UU, then it's going to end up in BL with the likes of Chansey, Kyurem, and Staraptor who are all begging to drop. Kyurem almost completely outclasses his Choice Banded and Choice Scarf sets, however many ignore the fact that Haxorus is one of the most dangerous DD sweepers in the OU meta game if given the chance to set up. Kyurem-B can only use Hone Claws, which doesn't do too much for it other than raise attack slightly and lets him use Blizzard on non Hail teams.
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Feb 1st, 2013, 5:53:37 PM
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And anyway: I apologize for kinda ignoring what you're saying. As a primarily weatherless user (but I'm definitely using Excadrill in the OU Mini-tournament 4) I subconsciously lump all weather together. By definition, anti-weather is anti-rain AND anti-sun AND etc. So there's people who loathe Drizzle but don't give a shit about Drought and it's my bad to ignore those differences. And what Tassa said is interesting. I'd like to see a stat on how many battles period were weatherless (neither team brought a weather inducer) and so on. EDIT: @Gary Yeah, if Haxorus drops I can see him instantly going to BL. He's not Stealth Rock weak like Darmanitan and Victini are and has all his boosting moves.
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Feb 1st, 2013, 6:36:27 PM
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A quick look at "average weighting" of the top 15.
1. Scizor - 62.5% 2. Politoed - 63.5% 3. Ferrothorn - 58.6% 4. Jirachi - 66.8% 5. Dragonite - 54.7% 6. Heatran - 62.9% 7. Rotom-W - 69.5% 8. Tyranitar - 60.8% 9. Breloom - 57.9% 10. Latios - 67.0% 11. Terrakion 70.2% 12. Starmie - 57.8% 13. Keldeo - 74.1% 14. Garchomp - 57.1% 15. Gengar - 49.1% I was shocked by Gengar being under 50% as I would consider it to be a highly viable top tier pokemon and was rather amused by the fact that there weren't as many Terrakion users with lower ratings that I thought there would be. Keldeo is a very top heavy pokemon and that probably explains why I see it a lot once I pass the 1800 mark. Interestingly, Dragonite, the only SR weak pokemon is not as popular on top tier teams, suggesting that people are avoiding SR weak threats. I must admit seeing Latios that high really did surprise me whilst Jirachi surprised me that it wasn't higher... Some other interesting ones include Gliscor being around 50%, Ninetales having an average of around 53%, Latias on 66.9%, Celebi a little over 64% and Landorus-therian on 73%. Some made me crack up like Espeon on 44.8% (must be people using it because they like it), blissey on 41.6% and Cloyster who was the only OU ranked pokemon below 40% average weighting!! From the above we can see that more successful (higher rated) players use rain than sun and sand and that higher rated players are more likely to be using Landorus-T over Gliscor, Gliscor is now officially outclassed by popular opinion! Xatu hit 73.7% average weighting, supporting the fact that it really does take some levels of skill to properly use this in OU, but it seems the pay offs are worth it! Tornadus-T was interestingly a little over 75% which helps the argument that even powerful pokemon may take some time to make an impression on lower ranked players and also supports the argument that people at the top are more liable to be "abusing" pokemon on the cusp of ubers. This indirectly supports the theories of team match ups and that certain teams will have inherent advantages over others regardless of skill! |
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Feb 1st, 2013, 6:45:03 PM
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Victini #56. Potiental OU spotlight? Nah, but it does have a niche of being a really good TR sweeper on dedicated teams. Also has the niche of V-Create, Bolt Strike, and Blue Flare all in one. Definitely should see just a LITTLE more usage though, imho.
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Feb 1st, 2013, 7:04:50 PM
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| 33 | Landorus | 6.93382% | 49763 | 5.235% | 38664 | 5.047% |
Getting the use it deserves. This guys is really good. | 35 | Celebi | 6.48850% | 52288 | 5.501% | 42857 | 5.594% | With Big Bird now gone, Celebi is making its revival. | 86 | Charizard | 1.12861% | 19020 | 2.001% | 15146 | 1.977% | Why? Just stop this. It's not going to be good in OU.
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Feb 1st, 2013, 7:22:29 PM
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The thing about Infernape is I see him ALL THE TIME, and I don't know why. I've been using a hail team recently, and it just so happens to be very weak to Mixed Infernape, but the only reason that's true is I FEEL LIKE I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO PREPARE FOR GOD DAMN INFERNAPE. And against teams that aren't mine, I have to imagine he isn't that useful...especially with rain and Keldeo everywhere.
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Finally Keldeo is getting the usage it deserves
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Feb 1st, 2013, 7:28:17 PM
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Keldeo is doing well. Haxorus may well drop in the next shift.
Tornadus-T wasn't banned at the beginning of January, so I suspect this coming month's usage will be a bit different and will show a better perspective of OU.
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Feb 1st, 2013, 7:29:34 PM
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Infernape is only a liability against rain... Granted that thats a big deal in the higher ranked matches but with lower ranked matches its much more viable.
I would estimate approximately 40% of higher ranked teams are/were rain whilst only around 20% are/were rain and mixed Infernape is still a beast if there is no Tentacruel/Tornadus-T/etc ready to come in on just about anything. Seriously if less experienced players found their infernapes getting hardwalled 40% of the time.. would they keep using them? BTW infernape learns EQ, i wonder if it would actually be viable JUST for surprising Tentacruel... |
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Feb 1st, 2013, 9:06:14 PM
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| 49 | Metagross | 4.43290% | 51659 | 5.435% | 42233 | 5.512% |
"sigh" There's basically no reason to run Metagross right now. Jirachi, and to a lesser extent Bronzong, outclass it. Just please stop using this unless you have a damn good reason. |
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Feb 1st, 2013, 9:38:06 PM
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usage stats look like bw1 again, minus the little blip of keldeo and garchomp at #13 and #14, respectively. a couple things stand out to me in these stats. first, scizor is higher than politoed in usage. what? why? scizor isn't even that great in the current metagame, one of the most common and best pokemon, keldeo, can switch in with relative impunity, resists its primary stab move, and ohkos under rain without any sort of boost involved (lo, specs, etc). another surprise is dragonite at #5. i ask again, why is it even there? every single team has a scarfed revenge killer capable of outspeeding and ohkoing a +1 dragonite in the current metagame, so why even bother? i suppose the cb set is still good, but it's essentially a one-for-one, and why use cb nite when you can use cb kyurem-b? i don't understand. finally, deoxys-d at #39 is an absolute disgrace to the showdown community. if you're not using weather in bw2, you should be using deo-d offense, and if you're not using either, you probably aren't very good. current stats indicate that if you were to select a random person's random team, there is a 50% likelihood that they would be utilizing some form of weather. if that's true, then why is deo-d at 6% instead of making up the other 50%? makes me sad.
oh well, at least infernape dropped off the face of the pla- | 30 | Infernape | 7.18132% | fffffffffff |
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