5th Gen PRNG Help / Info - RNG Reporter 9.96.5, PPRNG 1.15.0 (Request in first post) - Page 741

Red_Phoenix · Feb 19th, 2013, 12:44:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat The Agonist

Did you have the right encounter type set?

I think so, I used Wild Pokemon as Encounter type.

Onicon · Feb 19th, 2013, 12:48:43 PM

You were probably right but is your Synchronizer really a Synchronizer? Sometimes it happens to have the alternate ability.

Otherwise we cannot think of anything wrong.

The Agonist · Feb 19th, 2013, 12:50:35 PM

It could've just been a false positive.

Red_Phoenix · Feb 19th, 2013, 1:06:43 PM

I've double checked everything, I guess I'll try another seed... thanks for the help guys! :)

Onicon · Feb 19th, 2013, 5:24:33 PM

Ok guys, for those who tried to get a shiny but didn't or got a shiny but with the wrong nature: We have done a bit testing.

There may be something wrong with the RNG Reporter. For our example we supposed to have our shiny on the 211th PID frame, Sweet Scent. While the nature was correct it turned out not shiny.
When we looked up the PID it had the PID that supposed to be on the frame after, 212. Now is someone eager to explain what went wrong? The nature is correct but the PIDs on the list are shifed by one.

The Agonist · Feb 19th, 2013, 5:45:43 PM

The PID frame depends on the PID method being used.

Onicon · Feb 19th, 2013, 5:52:43 PM

Wild encounter, as said, but that is not the problem. The problem is the PIDs do not match up with the PID frame in the list. They are shifted by one, means that in that case we have got the PID on the following frame while the nature is all according the list.

Hopefully that is useful data.

Reshiram89 · Feb 19th, 2013, 8:11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Onicon

Either you are constantly getting the wrong Timer0 or your R button is broken. We hate Nindento's shoulder buttons. Luckily the RNG-Reporter has the option to skip L and R.

It's definately not a Timer0 problem cos I can get the IVs I want easilly enough, when there's no keypresses involved. I tried hitting a few different seeds, which had no keypresses cos I was just trying to figure out how to get the IVs and I was able to hit the seed on the first go both times. However now that I'm trying to hit one which requires keypresses, I haven't been able to get the right IVs at all and I've tried this particular seed like ten times now, using the Eontimer to help.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat The Agonist

Timer0's and keypresses are unrelated, so like Onicon said, you're either hitting the wrong Timer0, or the R button is broken. And you're doing exactly what you should be doing with keypresses.

Really? I thought keypresses were supposed to help make the Timer0 more consistent. Anyway I suppose you guys could be right. The DS lite I'm using for this was purchased second hand and was already quite battered looking when I got it (I already had a 3DS so it didn't matter at the time). It's probably time to be done away with because the light has never worked properlly (it flickers red when it's fully charged), the sound doesn't work very well either and the hinges was recently broken. Do the LR button's break easilly? cos I've noticed that most seeds that are shiny and have good IVs need those keypresses and I will get fewer search results when I leave out the LR buttons.

joejones6 · Feb 19th, 2013, 9:16:31 PM

in black 2 i understand there are some places where some trainers can advance the PID frame, like for terrakion and i think latios.
To avoid this do I battle all the trainers? or do i avoid all of them?
like is there a way for them to not affect the PID frame at all?

**voodoo pimp** · Feb 19th, 2013, 11:29:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat joejones6

in black 2 i understand there are some places where some trainers can advance the PID frame, like for terrakion and i think latios.
To avoid this do I battle all the trainers? or do i avoid all of them?
like is there a way for them to not affect the PID frame at all?

If you make a trainer move to battle you, they will stop advancing the PID frame until you leave the area (but then they will start moving again if you come back later, so make sure you're ready to do everything you need to before battling them). If there's a wandering NPC you can't battle, or one that only "sees" you when you're right next to them, there's nothing you can do about them.

43R0D4CTYL · Feb 20th, 2013, 3:59:24 AM

Hi!
1) In pokemon black 1, what encounter type is the zoroark from the event? Can it be caught as shiny? And does the step forward which introduces the event also increase the PID by 2?
2) In pokemon black 2, what encounter types are latios, vesprit, uxie and azelf? Anf can Zekrom be shiny in black 2 now?

Onicon · Feb 20th, 2013, 4:03:41 AM

We can say that all of them are stationaries. Your frame does not advance because it only happens when you are in an area where wild Pokemon can appear (Water, Grass, Cave).
That specific Zoroark won't be shiny, though.

championdiego · Feb 20th, 2013, 4:31:13 PM

I'm having some trouble with Hidden Grotto abuse. I empty the grotto and then save in it. Then i walk the 256 steps (sometimes a little bit more) and when i re enter the grotto it's empty!!! I just can't believe it, what am i doing wrong? There are no pokemon in the daycare and all other grottos are filled. Help please!

The Agonist · Feb 20th, 2013, 4:34:01 PM

Timer0 troll, most likely. Unless you're hitting the wrong second, or whatever.

championdiego · Feb 20th, 2013, 4:42:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat The Agonist

Timer0 troll, most likely. Unless you're hitting the wrong second, or whatever.

Nevermind. Just did it :D thanks!

Deltablazy · Feb 20th, 2013, 10:26:44 PM

Edit: Fix'd. Ignore.

Reshiram89 · Feb 21st, 2013, 1:09:03 AM

I recently changed the keypresses for my black version, I currently have 3 keypresses and ticked the box for skip L/R since I suspect that those keys are broken. Anyway I found another shiny seed for my Cobalion which requires the keypresses Select-Right-UP. Is this some kind of mistake? Why would I get a seed which uses the right key when I selected skip L/R?

The Agonist · Feb 21st, 2013, 1:36:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Reshiram89

I recently changed the keypresses for my black version, I currently have 3 keypresses and ticked the box for skip L/R since I suspect that those keys are broken. Anyway I found another shiny seed for my Cobalion which requires the keypresses Select-Right-UP. Is this some kind of mistake? Why would I get a seed which uses the right key when I selected skip L/R?

That would be the Right on your directional pad. :p

Reshiram89 · Feb 21st, 2013, 2:09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat The Agonist

That would be the Right on your directional pad. :p

Oh I wondered about that but I haven't had the time to try it out yet, thanks.

Edit: Alright I'm fairly certain that I hit the correct seed, twice now. I'm currently going for a naive Cobalion with 30|30|30|31|31|31 IVs (HP Ice 70) and when I entered the stats into the IV-Checker I got the following:

Cobalion - #638 (Naive)
HP: 30-31
Atk: 30-31
Def: 28-30
SpA: 30-31
SpD: 30-31
Spe: 31

Which all looks good. I listed to 53 custom chatots so the PID should have been right. The natures right and based on the IV-Checker the IVs looked right, the only problem though was that it wasn't shiny. And befor anyone asks, yes I did double check my SID by Pokecheck and it was right.

Here's some screen shots:

Time finder:

Main window:

Onicon · Feb 21st, 2013, 6:29:45 AM

It may happen that the PID does not match with the frame while the nature does. We cannot tell exactly why or when that happen.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Onicon

Ok guys, for those who tried to get a shiny but didn't or got a shiny but with the wrong nature: We have done a bit testing.

There may be something wrong with the RNG Reporter. For our example we supposed to have our shiny on the 211th PID frame, Sweet Scent. While the nature was correct it turned out not shiny.
When we looked up the PID it had the PID that supposed to be on the frame after, 212. Now is someone eager to explain what went wrong? The nature is correct but the PIDs on the list are shifed by one.

That said, try the 101st frame. Maybe you have luck and you have a Synch nature there.

Reshiram89 · Feb 21st, 2013, 6:47:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Onicon

It may happen that the PID does not match with the frame while the nature does. We cannot tell exactly why or when that happen.

That said, try the 101st frame. Maybe you have luck and you have a Synch nature there.

I just had a look and yes, it's a synch nature.

Anyway I can get the nature and IVs right -the problem is trying to get it shiny.

Onicon · Feb 21st, 2013, 6:54:37 AM

A question: Why do you only have half of the seed in the seed box? As you can see, 102 is NOT a Synch nature although the Time Finder says otherwise.

Reshiram89 · Feb 21st, 2013, 7:05:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Onicon

A question: Why do you only have half of the seed in the seed box? As you can see, 102 is NOT a Synch nature although the Time Finder says otherwise.

I dunno but I tried copying my seed again and I got this instead which matches what it says in the time finder -so ignore the last screenshot (I'll delete it in a minute):

Onicon · Feb 21st, 2013, 7:09:27 AM

Yup, do not forget to recalculate your initial PID frame, then try it again. If 102 does not work, maybe 101 works.

Also, we recommend you to use Hide tags. It makes screenshots easier to handle.

dragonblade369 · Feb 22nd, 2013, 1:15:58 PM

I am currently having problems with RNGing Wondercard.

On the Black 2 Cartrige, I was able to perfectly RNG a Shiny Perfect HP Fire Cresselia, a Shiny Perfect HP Fire Latios. However, I wasn't able to RNG a normal Keldeo from Wondercard.

I read up on all the guides, did everything I could. I even used the generate adjacent seed to see if I hit another Timer0 or no. It seems like I was hitting my seed 0% of the time. I tried 5 different seeds already and it's always the same thing. The sad part is I could not even identify the seed that I hit.

Does anyone have any suggestions? Just for clarification, it was for the Black 2 Cartridge.

Feb 19th, 2013, 12:50:35 PM	#18503
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Feb 19th, 2013, 1:06:43 PM	#18504
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Feb 19th, 2013, 9:16:31 PM	#18509
joejones6 Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 39	in black 2 i understand there are some places where some trainers can advance the PID frame, like for terrakion and i think latios. To avoid this do I battle all the trainers? or do i avoid all of them? like is there a way for them to not affect the PID frame at all? __________________ Pokemon Black FC: 0046 9791 0983

Feb 20th, 2013, 4:34:01 PM	#18514
The Agonist Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 2,043 Fuck fairies.	Timer0 troll, most likely. Unless you're hitting the wrong second, or whatever. __________________ # last.fm

Feb 19th, 2013, 12:48:43 PM	#18502
Onicon Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 698	You were probably right but is your Synchronizer really a Synchronizer? Sometimes it happens to have the alternate ability. Otherwise we cannot think of anything wrong.

Feb 19th, 2013, 5:24:33 PM	#18505
Onicon Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 698	Ok guys, for those who tried to get a shiny but didn't or got a shiny but with the wrong nature: We have done a bit testing. There may be something wrong with the RNG Reporter. For our example we supposed to have our shiny on the 211th PID frame, Sweet Scent. While the nature was correct it turned out not shiny. When we looked up the PID it had the PID that supposed to be on the frame after, 212. Now is someone eager to explain what went wrong? The nature is correct but the PIDs on the list are shifed by one.

Feb 19th, 2013, 5:52:43 PM	#18507
Onicon Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 698	Wild encounter, as said, but that is not the problem. The problem is the PIDs do not match up with the PID frame in the list. They are shifted by one, means that in that case we have got the PID on the following frame while the nature is all according the list. Hopefully that is useful data.

Feb 20th, 2013, 3:59:24 AM	#18511
43R0D4CTYL Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 651 Germany; GMT +1	Hi! 1) In pokemon black 1, what encounter type is the zoroark from the event? Can it be caught as shiny? And does the step forward which introduces the event also increase the PID by 2? 2) In pokemon black 2, what encounter types are latios, vesprit, uxie and azelf? Anf can Zekrom be shiny in black 2 now?

Feb 20th, 2013, 4:03:41 AM	#18512
Onicon Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 698	We can say that all of them are stationaries. Your frame does not advance because it only happens when you are in an area where wild Pokemon can appear (Water, Grass, Cave). That specific Zoroark won't be shiny, though.

Feb 20th, 2013, 4:31:13 PM	#18513
championdiego Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 41	I'm having some trouble with Hidden Grotto abuse. I empty the grotto and then save in it. Then i walk the 256 steps (sometimes a little bit more) and when i re enter the grotto it's empty!!! I just can't believe it, what am i doing wrong? There are no pokemon in the daycare and all other grottos are filled. Help please!

Feb 20th, 2013, 10:26:44 PM	#18516
Deltablazy Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 21	Edit: Fix'd. Ignore.

Feb 21st, 2013, 1:09:03 AM	#18517
Reshiram89 Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 235 Australia	I recently changed the keypresses for my black version, I currently have 3 keypresses and ticked the box for skip L/R since I suspect that those keys are broken. Anyway I found another shiny seed for my Cobalion which requires the keypresses Select-Right-UP. Is this some kind of mistake? Why would I get a seed which uses the right key when I selected skip L/R?

Feb 21st, 2013, 6:54:37 AM	#18522
Onicon Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 698	A question: Why do you only have half of the seed in the seed box? As you can see, 102 is NOT a Synch nature although the Time Finder says otherwise.

Feb 21st, 2013, 7:09:27 AM	#18524
Onicon Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 698	Yup, do not forget to recalculate your initial PID frame, then try it again. If 102 does not work, maybe 101 works. Also, we recommend you to use Hide tags. It makes screenshots easier to handle.

Feb 22nd, 2013, 1:15:58 PM	#18525
dragonblade369 Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 12	I am currently having problems with RNGing Wondercard. On the Black 2 Cartrige, I was able to perfectly RNG a Shiny Perfect HP Fire Cresselia, a Shiny Perfect HP Fire Latios. However, I wasn't able to RNG a normal Keldeo from Wondercard. I read up on all the guides, did everything I could. I even used the generate adjacent seed to see if I hit another Timer0 or no. It seems like I was hitting my seed 0% of the time. I tried 5 different seeds already and it's always the same thing. The sad part is I could not even identify the seed that I hit. Does anyone have any suggestions? Just for clarification, it was for the Black 2 Cartridge.