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Old Feb 23rd, 2013, 6:48:43 PM   #26
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I'm horrid at drawing, so I'll critique instead, in a couple on sentences. I'm not an expert or anything, so you can dismiss what I say if you wish. Don't take it the wrong way.

Yilx A is just a Cacturne clone in my opinion, but B and the rejected C (why it's rejected, I don't know) look pretty nice! B's hand-leaf things look a little... Off, though.

Quanyaila I like the concept quite a lot. Basically, a Bisharp mixed with a Roserade. It's a rose, but with a dark monotone and clearly vicious intentions. C'mon, a murderous rose? Who can't like that?

Mos-Quitoxe Um, Wario much? I'm not sure about a garlic mon, and the shading looks a little off, but it definitely has potential. I'd say it's more of a Grass/Poison than Grass/Dark, but that's just me. I can totally see Stench being an ability for this, though.

Birkal A skull-based cob of corn? Interesting. I don't think the purple blends well with the yellow-orange thing, and it's a little more "wide" than I'd imagine it to be, but it's pretty good overall.

Menshay A jester Cacturne is the first thing that comes to mind. Nonetheless, this is pretty neat. The wings and long fingers seem out of place, though.

pkmn-taicho321 Watchog in a Carnivine costume? That's what comes to mind first for me. However, regardless, I like this one. The tail looks really unnatural, though.

elcheeso Hmm... This looks good, but I dislike the design of the scales/leaves on the body. I also think that a bull may not be the best interpretation of Grass/Dark, but that's my opinion, and opinions are made to be biased, so...

paintseagull A dripping swamp mon? I admit, the first thing I though of when I saw Grass/Dark was "swamp." Regardless, this is pretty good. I dislike the general feet area and random dots of colours, and this looks a tad too much like an Eeveelutions to me. It's neat, and a quick rework could make it look great!

Dracoyoshi8 Interesting. Neat concept (we have Houndoom, so why not?) and I like the evil forest-type color scheme, but the leaves should maintain a constant color, not different shades, and the tongue is... Odd. However, this is still neat. Moreover, the brown dots add a nice texture.

Hollymon Well, your name explains it pretty well. I don't think that the trademark plant of Christmas should be associated with darkness, but you executed it pretty well. It looks a little too jolly (no pun intended) for a Dark type, even given the mistletoe theme, but it's still pretty nice.

Chomz Sawsbuck? No offense, but with a theme like that, I doubt it'll be picked. However, you did draw it beautifully- it's just, the Deerling line, and Pokemon X's legendary, and Stantler, and... You get the point. It's a great image with an overdone concept- quite an unfortunate curse.

Arkeis Even though the second reminds me if Watchog, it's still pretty good. I much prefer the Tiki mon, though. It's just... Something about it says "awesome." It looks Dark, it looks Grass, it looks amazing.

zyrefredric Your drawing skills have potential, but it's a little jagged ATM. Still, it's a great concept. Not sure about if the fire helps or hinders the design, though.

Orivexes Picklemon, eh? Neat concept, neat design, neat drawing. The colour scheme just seems a little ugly, but that's just me.

Doran Dragon Tauros Shiftry. Really. Looking past the air of these Pokemon, it's neat, but I don't enjoy the shade of green you chose. It's a great drawing in its own right, though.

Green Dweeb Sorry, Menshay got to the concept first. However, I like the drawing you did. It has that mischievous plant look all over it.

Nastyjungle This is more like Pyroak's kind of typing to me, and, as said before, I don't like the idea of a bull for this (yes, even the Minotaur), but it does look nice. The horns are easily the highlight of the image, beautifully drawn.

ShyGuy1221 Hmm... I like the concept, but I think the color scheme, though clearly showing "Dark" all over it, seems a little out of place. I like the eyes, though.

Steampowered Phew, almost done. Anyways, I like the concept and image, but the body shape is so... Odd. It's also a little too furry for my liking on a Dark type. The facial expression is masterfully done, however.

Chris900 Seems neat and all, but the leaves are a little unnatural. The eyes and concept are both great, and this seems pretty good all in all.

Harle Hmm... I don't enjoy the arms/leaves, but the general concept and facial expressions are great. I enjoy it and all, but it seems a little too... Jagged.
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Old Feb 23rd, 2013, 6:57:23 PM   #27
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Old Feb 23rd, 2013, 7:33:31 PM   #28
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Quick Log-Ninja Pokemon idea



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Old Feb 23rd, 2013, 7:42:09 PM   #29
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Old Feb 23rd, 2013, 7:56:44 PM   #30
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quick sketch. Pan Fakemon (also, greek elements).

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Old Feb 23rd, 2013, 8:06:38 PM   #31
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This design disguises itself as a tree to ambush prey.

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Old Feb 23rd, 2013, 8:25:31 PM   #32
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Wowsers, there have already been a lot of submissions and I didn't want to be giving critique so early, but here I am. The quality of submissions so far have been really good this time around, so if I point out something you could improve on, don't take it to heart too much, as they're (probably) tiny nitpicks.

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Looking back at this, I've been quite brutal. I hope my comments don't offend anyone :(
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Old Feb 23rd, 2013, 8:31:15 PM   #33
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Since my computer shut down and I lost the design I was working on ;-; I will add some comments to the ones here.

Yilx - Design A could look good, but it looks a little too much like Cacturne, and if more flowery would look too much like Maractus. Design B, however, I love it. and can't wait to see what it looks like if you continue it.

Quanyails - I like it a lot, but one thing I might change is to maybe give it two feet instead of four. It looks awkward considering how humanoid the top looks and the bottom looks so weird.

Mos-Quitoxe - I can't help but think the pink thing looks like a giant nose, which makes me hate it I'm sorry.

Birkal - While the idea is funny, it doesn't look dark type enough to me.

Menshay - To me it seems more aquatic than plant, but that could change depending on the color scheme.

pkmn-taicho321 - Love the idea, the only thing I have to say is it kind of reminds me of Vileplume.

elcheeso - Can't quite say much about it yet, but it looks more electric/normal than grass/dark right now.

paintseagull - Yours is my favorite so far, I absolutely love the idea.

Dracoyoshi8 - I like the design, but the apple looks very forced.

Hollymon - I like what it is based off, but it doesn't seem "dark" enough.

Chomz - The dark is portrayed nicely, but the grass doesn't shine through yet.

Arkeis - The tiki monster is a favorite of mine! I love it. Also the sketch I like as well.

zyrefredric - Looks more grass/fire, and also I don't care for the design (especially if we want the mon to be fast).

Orivexes - Looks too fat

Doran Dragon - Big fan of it, conveys both types nicely.

Green Dweeb - Love the idea!

Nastyjungle - It's quite good, the only comment I might add is that it doesn't look enough like a grass type.

ShyGuy1221 - To me it doesn't convey either type.

Steampowered - Looks like an otter 0.0 can't really see the dark type but I like the idea so far.

Chris900 - Like the idea so far.

Harle - An favorite of mine, my only concern is it might turn out to ghost type.

Wyverii - Quite awesome

Scorpio - Looks grass/fighting dont see any dark.

QuimicVital - Very simple, you might want to try a new design.

Calad - I like it so far.

Shanimanim - Conveys both types nicely, like it a lot.
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Okay. The idea just popped into my head to use pumpkins, & I was trying to think of a way for it to be mobile, but not look a stiff breeze would knock it over. So I went with a bigger, more common orange pumpkin as a body, with woven or wound vines for limbs as well as a thick neck leading to a less common white pumpkin for the head. The tails started out as a half dozen or so thin, whip-like things, as you can see in the initial sketch there in the corner, but I wasn't sure if that was a good way to go, so I tried a double tail made with wound vines.
I'm hoping the dark element comes out in the sort of jack-o-lantern face as well as the fact that pumpkins are usually associated with Halloween.
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It is a giant nose, Adams! And I know people will hate it, because those same people hate Probopass! It does not however mean that I will change it to something else, since I love him still.
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Mos-Quitoxe's looks exactly like Wario turned into garlic
make of that what you will

I'm a fan of Calad's sketch and Wyverii's Snap Dragon (shame it isn't grass/dragon though :P)

Chris900 your design is interesting but it looks overly busy. I think it could stand to be simplified.
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For what its worth, Mos, I love the nose. I love the whole design. I love imagining a herd of these trundling across a plain, shoots gently flailing in the wind. I am worried about the mustache though. Doesn't bother me, because Pokemon's got a proud mustache tradition (Alakazam, Jellicent) but I'm worried that if the nose will bother people, the mustache even more so.

I also really like Orivexes rogue panda (maybe a robbers mask made of leaves? like a masqueradey mask thing, so people will see the grass more. I kinda like it the way it is, though.) , Wyverii's snap-dragon, and Shanimanim's...thing. But Chris900 and a couple others need to watch it with the detail. Remember that this has to be condensed down to a sprite, and a lot of the detail is either not going to show or make it look like pixel soup.
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Here we go!

This concept is based on the Rex Begonia plant, a plant that can thrive without direct sunlight. (Dark type!) This CAP lives under the shade of its giant leaves, which it can use to camouflage itself with other greenery.

Just a first sketch, nothing final.
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Wow!
Some awesome concepts already!

The two that stand out to me so far are the mons created by nastyjungle and shaniminam!
I think they are both very well thought out concepts that portray the typing very uniquely. There has obviously been a lot of thought behind their creation.
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It is a giant nose, Adams! And I know people will hate it, because those same people hate Probopass! It does not however mean that I will change it to something else, since I love him still.
He's probably my favorite so far... Even though his bulb legs kind of gross me out for some reason... It's like an obese spider or a hand made entirely of thumbs... Smelly thumbs. Still, it's my favorite.

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Harle - An favorite of mine, my only concern is it might turn out to ghost type.
Hmm... It does look quite a bit like a ghost. I think I'll make it more apparent in the design that it isn't possessing the objects its holding, but controlling them with its roots, as it does kind of look like a possessed coconut with a fancy hat.

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Thowing out some more designs, trying to see what sticks. I know the Cactus Grass/ Dark role is taken, but I drew it anyways =P

The other two consist of a ManDrake pokemon, and a Raccoon/ Lemur sage.

I'm still thinking up more but I'd love to hear some opinions.
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passively wondering what exactly screams "fire" about my design

also gosh you guys are boring!!! nothing is fun about a normal golden calf, of course it has to be human like, thats how the minotaur is............................ /gripe
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Thank you everyone for the feedback so far!

Quanyails: Great elements but I think it would be a stronger design overall if the top half was more exaggerated and imposing.

Mos: (C:<

Menshay: This works really well, can't wait to see it finished. I like the sundew colour scheme too but it might be a bit too happy in pokemon form.

Chomz: I like the idea but you are right that it's too cluttered. Also I don't get the cutesey deer face and wolfy tail and mish mash anatomy isn't very cohesive.

Arkeis: I was going to support the Tanuki idea but then I looked at the Tiki again... it's pretty excellent. Maybe see what happens with abilities.

zyrefredric: doesn't really work for me, maybe incorporate the gnarled tree-like hands into something else and ditch the fire?

Doran: Great start, the leaf placement isn't great at the moment, not sure what to suggest but I'm sure you can make it work

NJ: You know I love this but the colour scheme is pretty jarring right now and I think the way you've shaded it, while nice technically, is not the best presentation of your design as it's a little overwhelming along with all the details you've drawn.

Harle: I think the drawing is nice but it's not quite enough, maybe there could be something a little more substantial under the lily pad?

Calad: Very excellent, though maybe too much of a middle stage design.

ZirraNova: I like the vine wrapped idea but I think the head and pumpkin body both being wrapped is a bit much, maybe you could do a little bit of a less traditional silhouette and ditch one or the other or have the pumpkin (or other squash??) serve both head and body purposes (like.. more of a cartoony thing with no neck)

taicho: ahh lots of promise in the new sketches :) I like the lemur/raccoon, so much personality
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Just a couple brainstorms. A wood spirit dwarf gnome warrior and an evil tree. I think I like the gnome more, but both could work!


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This design was based on badgers (more specifically, the American badger). I tried to keep it close to the official Pokémon artstyle. If I recall correctly, there was talk that this CAP might need to be abit bulky, so I made it look like it could tank some hits.

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Best throw in my opinion too. In no particular order:

Nastyjungle, it's not so much "fire" as in "steel" that is apparent with your entry, what with being the golden calf. Makes it hard to accept the dark subtext. Another issue with the coloring is the fact that a good 29% of the psychic-types in gen 1 (plus girafarig) use that same creme caramel scheme; Mr. Minotaur even has an abra-like head. The third point is that you are so accomplished at drawing realistic human proportions and detail that it unfortunately draws the whole design into the Uncanny Valley.

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, while I am delighted at just how FURIOUS your cactus looks, I think that it'd be best to go with the whiny mandrake, for variety's sake.

calad, you'd better dang well stick with that goat. :V

Wyverii this is so much more cartoony that you ususally offer, so refreshing!

I have also added extra doodles to my own entry, in case no-one noticed.
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Alright, gonna go ahead and post what I had in mind. It's kind of a Scarecrow, except it got lost in a swamp or something, and now its arms are plants.

THIS IS NOT OFFICIAL ART, im just throwing my idea out there (though ill probably use it as supporting material). Anybody claiming that it can't hold a bird or be attached to earth will be painfully ignored.

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ok, so ive started to clean up my design, i need to figure out how to better incorporate the fern leaves without going into overdesigned. Guess i also need to work with the colors to help show the dark typing, which i just did, so yeah. also changed the eyes at suggestion of mos

i may need to explain the thought behind my guy...so...
"the idea is type equalizer, bring up the lesser used types, take down the over used types. since baphomet is the symbol of duality, and also associated with satanism, its the perfect idea for dark. I chose to try to work ferns into the design because they are kind of inbetween, they reproduce with spores, but they are also sort of...woody plants, basically a crossroads of plant material"



thanks for all the crit so far!

@yilx, if we need a bulky design for stats i can just play around with proportions and stuff. anyways, next step is to draw it 3/4 view

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Well, it was suggested by paintseagull that I try to get away from a traditional silhouette, or at least use fewer vines, so I went two routes. First, very dramatically, I beheaded my pumpkin creature.

& secondly, but less dramatically, I gave it a hair cut.
I also add a viney under-bite, though. Which means I didn't really cut down on the vines here, as move them. I like to think his white pumpkin head resembles more of a skull in this one though, which I liked.
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Spiffed up my drawing. I may change the color of the blades. They're pink because they're not red, but they don't fit well with the rest of the palette. :P

I've also sketched out a page of supplementary artwork here.

Edit: Here is some more, featuring some other pokemon and CAP designs.

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