(Programming) PPRNG 1.15.0 (Mac)

[Psychic Will]

Originally Posted by Fat religiousjedi

Larvesta is the only unique gift Pokemon. Zorua in Castelia City is generated like all other gift Pokemon.

I'd still love it if there was somewhere specific to check. I've been having some difficulty with Zoroark in the Lostlorn Forest. Oh, and how does one RNG their starter when they haven't had a chance to verify their parameters in the game yet? I've been stuck right after the start of the game in BW2 because I want to RNG my first Tepig (went with the other two in BW). I started the game on the day they came out, so I'm hoping it doesn't involve starting a new game or anything. I'd also like to make it shiny, so I'm concerned about finding my SID when I won't be able to use PokeCheck.

[chiizu]

Originally Posted by Fat Psychic Will

I'd still love it if there was somewhere specific to check. I've been having some difficulty with Zoroark in the Lostlorn Forest.

That special event can't be shiny, if I recall correctly. Other than that I don't think there's much special about it.

Originally Posted by Fat Psychic Will

Oh, and how does one RNG their starter when they haven't had a chance to verify their parameters in the game yet? I've been stuck right after the start of the game in BW2 because I want to RNG my first Tepig (went with the other two in BW). I started the game on the day they came out, so I'm hoping it doesn't involve starting a new game or anything. I'd also like to make it shiny, so I'm concerned about finding my SID when I won't be able to use PokeCheck.

You can't RNG your starter if you don't know your parameters. You can make a guess based on common parameter ranges for the game version you are using (I don't know what they are for the English games), but at best you'll be able to get good IVs.

For shininess you would have needed to RNG your trainer ID, since otherwise you have no way of knowing your SID without the use of an external device such as an AR. And to RNG your trainer ID you will need to restart your game. On top of all that, there are a large number of wandering NPCs around when you get your starter, making it even more difficult to hit the correct PID frame. Most people don't consider it to be worth the effort.

You will get quicker answers to these general kinds of RNG questions by using the common Gen 5 RNG help thread. None of this is specific to PPRNG.

[Tapin]

I think this is better here than in the general RNG thread, but I'm not entirely sure. I'd be happy to post there too if it's warranted.

I'm fairly new to RNGing; I've managed to successfully RNG a couple dozen Pokemon over the last few weeks, including an all-shiny rain team and several Keldeos from the WFC distribution that ended a few weeks back. My kids and I just went to get the Game Stop Meloetta, and I spent some time to RNG a Naive HP Ice (flawless w/Spe 30) one.

When I succeeded, the nature, IVs, and HP were all right; but the Characteristic that PPRNG suggested it should have didn't match the Characteristic that it actually has: The software suggested "Capable of taking hits", but it's actually "Mischievous". I'm pretty sure I had all of the settings right (it's been my experience that if I miss at all, I miss big; never before have I missed just the Characteristic while hitting the nature and IVs), so I'm not sure if this is a "bug" or merely some sort of fluke. But I wanted to report it, just in case it's meaningful to someone.

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[The Agonist]

As far as I know, this is just something for wondercards (I've had it happen with one of the Genesect I RNGed), as I've never had it happen for anything else.

[chiizu]

Originally Posted by Fat Tapin

My kids and I just went to get the Game Stop Meloetta, and I spent some time to RNG a Naive HP Ice (flawless w/Spe 30) one.

When I succeeded, the nature, IVs, and HP were all right; but the Characteristic that PPRNG suggested it should have didn't match the Characteristic that it actually has: The software suggested "Capable of taking hits", but it's actually "Mischievous". I'm pretty sure I had all of the settings right (it's been my experience that if I miss at all, I miss big; never before have I missed just the Characteristic while hitting the nature and IVs), so I'm not sure if this is a "bug" or merely some sort of fluke. But I wanted to report it, just in case it's meaningful to someone.

Originally Posted by Fat chiizu

Characteristics for wondercards can be wrong if the details of the wonder cards are not set correctly in the searcher / inspector. This is particularly affected by the ability, but it can happen (rarely) if the ID / SID is not set correctly.

In your cases above, I suspect that the issue is that you didn't set the card ability to 0. For pokemon that only have one ability, the wondercards usually force the ability value to 0 (even though it isn't required to be 0 for single ability pokemon). The ability is contained in the PID, which is what determines the characteristic. Not forcing it to 0 in these cases will result in the wrong PID and thus the wrong characteristic about half of the time.

[Tapin]

That was exactly it. Apologies for missing that in this thread. Thanks!

[chiizu]

PPRNG 1.15.0 has been released.

This release adds support for all of the languages for Black 2 and White 2 on all DS models, save for Korean Black 2.

It also adds the ability to filter on multiple hidden power types and fixes a bug related to swarm frames.

This is the last version that will support OS X 10.5 as well as PPC processors.

[Lork]

i am clearly doing something very wrong. i'm trying to rng a keldeo from the dude in the pokemon centre (a gift pokemon right?) and keep getting a result so disagreeable it isn't even listed in the adjacent seeds.

what on earth am i doing wrong?

[evo25]

Originally Posted by Fat Lork

i am clearly doing something very wrong. i'm trying to rng a keldeo from the dude in the pokemon centre (a gift pokemon right?) and keep getting a result so disagreeable it isn't even listed in the adjacent seeds.

what on earth am i doing wrong?

Lork are you searching wondercard seeds if not thats your first problem. yes it is a gift but it comes from a wonder card so search wonder card seeds the next problem is you may be hitting the wrong timer0. Black2/white2 have many timer0's.

[Lork]

Originally Posted by Fat evo25

Lork are you searching wondercard seeds if not thats your first problem. yes it is a gift but it comes from a wonder card so search wonder card seeds the next problem is you may be hitting the wrong timer0. Black2/white2 have many timer0's.

hahaha, no i wasn't using wondercard. thanks for pointing that out! will go give it another go.

[evo25]

Originally Posted by Fat Lork

hahaha, no i wasn't using wondercard. thanks for pointing that out! will go give it another go.

Thats all i could think of i'm afraid hope it helps you also are you using the correct key presses and sure your hitting your timer0

[Lork]

Originally Posted by Fat evo25

Thats all i could think of i'm afraid hope it helps you also are you using the correct key presses and sure your hitting your timer0

yep, and you were right. i switched to the wondercard setting and rnged a perfect hp ice keldeo! thanks man.

[Icemahn98]

Hi guys I'm relatively new to using the RNG and I've found that while I can come up with the correct IVs, I have yet to get a correct PID. Basically what I'm saying is when I find a seed on PPRNG, it has the IVs I want, but the pokemon isn't the one in the corresponding encounter slot and it also tends to not be the nature or ability I want. I'm not exactly sure what is causing this. I have the parameters filled out with everything except SID because I do not have access to pokecheck or an AR. I'm not worried about shininess. I would just like to be able to find the pokemon I want without having to guess and check on my chatot flips. I appreciate any help you can offer.

[chiizu]

Originally Posted by Fat Icemahn98

Hi guys I'm relatively new to using the RNG and I've found that while I can come up with the correct IVs, I have yet to get a correct PID. Basically what I'm saying is when I find a seed on PPRNG, it has the IVs I want, but the pokemon isn't the one in the corresponding encounter slot and it also tends to not be the nature or ability I want. I'm not exactly sure what is causing this. I have the parameters filled out with everything except SID because I do not have access to pokecheck or an AR. I'm not worried about shininess. I would just like to be able to find the pokemon I want without having to guess and check on my chatot flips. I appreciate any help you can offer.

You don't clearly state what you're doing, but if you're just hitting your seed and trying to catch the Pokemon without advancing the PID frame (via chatots), then you are not going to get what you're aiming for most of the time. If you don't want to bother with chatots, you'll need to find a seed that has the target frame equal to the starting PID frame. Since you aren't going for a shiny, that should be possible to find.

Also, this question is not specific to PPRNG, so you are likely to get a quicker response by posting in the main Gen 5 RNG help thread.

[Icemahn98]

Ok I'll try again to explain since I didn't do a very good job with my last post. I'm currently trying to find a sturdy Aron with all 31 IVs on black2. Now the encounter slots say there should be an Aron in slots 4, 6, 8, and 10 if I'm not mistaken. I found a seed where the initial frame is 55 and my target frame is 70. So I do the chatot flips to get to frame 70 and then use sweet scent to bring out the pokemon, but it isn't the Aron that PPRNG tells me it should be. Instead it is a Boldore. Now I know I've hit the right seed because the Boldore has the IVs. I posted this in this thread because I'm stuck with PPRNG and I haven't found help elsewhere, but I had not tried the thread you suggested yet so I will try there as well. I appreciate any help you may offer and I hope I was more clear about what my problem is.

[The Agonist]

Originally Posted by Fat Icemahn98

Ok I'll try again to explain since I didn't do a very good job with my last post. I'm currently trying to find a sturdy Aron with all 31 IVs on black2. Now the encounter slots say there should be an Aron in slots 4, 6, 8, and 10 if I'm not mistaken. I found a seed where the initial frame is 55 and my target frame is 70. So I do the chatot flips to get to frame 70 and then use sweet scent to bring out the pokemon, but it isn't the Aron that PPRNG tells me it should be. Instead it is a Boldore. Now I know I've hit the right seed because the Boldore has the IVs. I posted this in this thread because I'm stuck with PPRNG and I haven't found help elsewhere, but I had not tried the thread you suggested yet so I will try there as well. I appreciate any help you may offer and I hope I was more clear about what my problem is.

The issue would be WNPCs. Go into the Regi's rooms, those have the same encounter slots, and no WNPCs (you'd find it as a Lairon).

[jcompy122]

Originally Posted by Fat chiizu

I meant just set the flag in your configuration. Doing an actual memory link shouldn't change anything for you, except it may have an effect on your initial PID frame. That is the part that hasn't been tested for you particular situation.

Out of curiosity, though you haven't done a memory link, did you do anything else from the Unova link menu, like transfer a key from another game? Do you have any wondercards downloaded?

I was having the same issue, until I ran across this post. After checking the memory link box, everything worked perfectly, after 20 trials (with various button presses) my Vcount and Vframe values are completely consistent, and my timer0 values only vary by 4. I have obtained wonder cards on my cart (wifi deoxys, wifi genesect, but no locals) and I have used the unova link to transfer keys to and from my two versions. Thanks for the awesome work, hope this helps, and keep it up!