Smogon's 1st "Create a Pokemon": Poll 2 - Page 5

Tytus · Dec 9th, 2007, 1:01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Gothic Togekiss

I admit, that was one servely horrible name to give to any creature. Got any suggestion?

Icicada? Might be a little too close to Nincada. Gryllo is fitting though, but it would be very non-Pokemon to not give it some ice pun in the name.

Man, it's still pretty neck-in-neck in the voting though.

Deucalion2 · Dec 9th, 2007, 5:43:04 AM

Come, Steel/Ice for the win! If we are going to have a horrible typing combo, lets have a stylish horrible typing combo!

Sunday · Dec 9th, 2007, 5:48:02 AM

My god its close...

Shroud · Dec 9th, 2007, 6:20:24 AM

Ice/Bug would be awesome.

yoshi! · Dec 9th, 2007, 7:44:56 AM

I voted for steel/bug. We need more bugs!!

eric the espeon · Dec 9th, 2007, 9:04:40 AM

steel/ ice canot be used as a tank/wall due to its 2 4x weaknesses and its all to comon weakness to ground also bug is a far supirior attcking type compared to steel come on we need every vote we can get, go bug/ice!!!!

Cooper · Dec 9th, 2007, 12:32:58 PM

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Although Bug/Ice Ice/Steel are creative typings, they'd probably be UU due to their horrendous typing unless they had godly base stats.

It's already been established that I did the type thing wrong. There should've been a second poll to determine the top three from the most popular types from poll 1... but as I've said, I'm going to press forward anyway to continue working the bugs out so that I have a workable base for future "Create a Pokemon" programs.

Anyway, Ice/Steel has really made a comeback! It could definitely have a shot at winning now!

For all those people talking about art and how stupid it would be for a thin tank, the next poll (which will start tonight) is going to determine the function of our new pokemon. Physical sweeper, mixed sweeper, special sweeper, physical tank, and special tank. That pretty much covers them all, right?

Also, for people dissing 4x weakness pokemon, Garchomp, Salamence, Swampert, and Magnezone would like to have a word with you.

864today · Dec 9th, 2007, 12:37:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat eric the espeon

steel/ bug canot be used as a tank/wall due to its 2 4x weaknesses and its all to comon weakness to ground also bug is a far supirior attcking type compared to steel come on we need every vote we can get, go bug/ice!!!!

You don't know what you are talking about.
Steel/Bug has only one 4x weakness to fire, no 2x weaknesses and a boatload of resists. I think you mean steel/ice.

Edit: 7 hours left, it's really down to the wire!

***DougJustDoug***** · Dec 9th, 2007, 1:05:02 PM

Ice/Steel has some major weaknesses, but it could be a cool concept (no pun intended). I'm envisioning a pokemon based on refrigeration devices. It may seem stupid, but it could be interesting -- kinda like a Magnezone. Maybe it could be an alternate evo for Magneton.

The refrigeration device theme could be used as a justification for a Heatproof ability (think "insulation") or a new ability with outright fire immunity. That would help remove one of those 4x weaknesses. Having 2 common 4x weaknesses is an insurmountable limitation for any pokemon to be used competitively. Just look at Rhyperior. Even with all that power and an ability geared to limit the weaknesses -- it just doesn't work well. I love the potential of Ice/Steel, but only if we minimize the 4x weaknesses. No "Solid Steel" ability or the like. In competitive play, a 3x weakness is just as bad as a 4x weakness.

eric the espeon · Dec 9th, 2007, 1:06:27 PM

sorry i ment steel/ice

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For all those people talking about art and how stupid it would be for a thin tank, the next poll (which will start tonight) is going to determine the function of our new pokemon. Physical sweeper, mixed sweeper, special sweeper, physical tank, and special tank. That pretty much covers them all, right?

add physical wall, special wall and suporter and have you read my post sugesting a compotition in smergles studio for the sprite before too much longer?

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Also, for people dissing 4x weakness pokemon, Garchomp, Salamence, Swampert, and Magnezone would like to have a word with you.

but you cant ague that steel/ice is a good wall/tank type

Gothic Togekiss · Dec 9th, 2007, 1:08:05 PM

^ lol, Steel/Ice with Heatproof(Insulate?) actually make some sense.

Deucalion2 · Dec 9th, 2007, 3:03:05 PM

Steel/Ice is sooo much cooler than Bug/Steel.

Eh heh...

Couldn't resist the bad pun. Anyway, giving it Heatproof could kill its Fire weakness.

Jimmayus · Dec 9th, 2007, 4:14:30 PM

For the whole SR weakness thing: what about an ability that just negates damage incurred upon switching in? Stops life orb abusal, anything else you would normally incur while on the field you'll still take, toxic spikes still poison you. Just stops spikes and SR damage. Seems like a fair trade, could have a secondary ability and make it like Poison Heal, but I dunno how broken that could become.

Kabuto Mushi · Dec 9th, 2007, 4:19:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Darthguac

I vote ice/bug, on the condition that it's ability is: "This pokemon is immune to stealth rock." Maybe called blind-fight?

On the other hand, we aren't really debating abilities now. I still vote for ice/bug just because I find it neat, not any strategic reason.

Long Antennae
-This Pokemon is immune to damage from traps suchs as spikes and stealth rock

spiderweb · Dec 13th, 2007, 1:06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat xBLUEx

ice/steel because it seems so cool despite being 4X weakness by fire and fighting and 2X weakness by ground.

It should been levitated then so it only gets 2 4x weakness.

eric the espeon · Dec 13th, 2007, 1:10:56 PM

dont revive old topics. if you want to talk abut the new pokemon post here
http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33378

Microbe · Dec 14th, 2007, 12:24:43 AM

Electric / Dragon FTW

View Poll Results: What type should our new pokemon be?
Steel/Ice	69	35.03%
Steel/Bug	38	19.29%
Ice/Bug	74	37.56%
No dual typing, mono-Steel for the win	16	8.12%
Voters: 197. You may not vote on this poll

Dec 9th, 2007, 5:48:02 AM	#103
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Dec 9th, 2007, 9:04:40 AM	#106
eric the espeon maybe I just misunderstood Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 3,696	steel/ ice canot be used as a tank/wall due to its 2 4x weaknesses and its all to comon weakness to ground also bug is a far supirior attcking type compared to steel come on we need every vote we can get, go bug/ice!!!! __________________ For people who like storing things: The Box Reading and LC? LCF, LC Guide, LC Analyses Good channels: #littlecup, #C&C, #1v1, others And for SCMS editors: SCMS group ete on IRC. Goodbye Smogon. Good luck, was fun while it lasted. Last edited by eric the espeon; Dec 9th, 2007 at 1:02:46 PM.

Dec 9th, 2007, 1:08:05 PM	#111
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Dec 13th, 2007, 1:10:56 PM	#116
eric the espeon maybe I just misunderstood Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 3,696	dont revive old topics. if you want to talk abut the new pokemon post here http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33378 __________________ For people who like storing things: The Box Reading and LC? LCF, LC Guide, LC Analyses Good channels: #littlecup, #C&C, #1v1, others And for SCMS editors: SCMS group ete on IRC. Goodbye Smogon. Good luck, was fun while it lasted.

Dec 9th, 2007, 6:20:24 AM	#104
Shroud Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 461 The Netherlands	Ice/Bug would be awesome.

Dec 9th, 2007, 1:05:02 PM	#109
*DougJustDoug* Knows the great enthusiasms Administrator** Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,904 Houston, TX	Ice/Steel has some major weaknesses, but it could be a cool concept (no pun intended). I'm envisioning a pokemon based on refrigeration devices. It may seem stupid, but it could be interesting -- kinda like a Magnezone. Maybe it could be an alternate evo for Magneton. The refrigeration device theme could be used as a justification for a Heatproof ability (think "insulation") or a new ability with outright fire immunity. That would help remove one of those 4x weaknesses. Having 2 common 4x weaknesses is an insurmountable limitation for any pokemon to be used competitively. Just look at Rhyperior. Even with all that power and an ability geared to limit the weaknesses -- it just doesn't work well. I love the potential of Ice/Steel, but only if we minimize the 4x weaknesses. No "Solid Steel" ability or the like. In competitive play, a 3x weakness is just as bad as a 4x weakness.

Dec 9th, 2007, 4:14:30 PM	#113
Jimmayus Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 10	For the whole SR weakness thing: what about an ability that just negates damage incurred upon switching in? Stops life orb abusal, anything else you would normally incur while on the field you'll still take, toxic spikes still poison you. Just stops spikes and SR damage. Seems like a fair trade, could have a secondary ability and make it like Poison Heal, but I dunno how broken that could become.

Dec 14th, 2007, 12:24:43 AM	#117
Microbe Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 210	Electric / Dragon FTW