Azelf (Life Orb) [QC: 0/3] - Page 2

**Pocket** · Jul 2nd, 2012, 2:12:33 PM

I agree with ginganinja and shrang - slash U-turn with Nasty Plot and rename the set as "Special Attacker"

QC Rejected (2/3)

PS: I like Ojam's set - I never found Azelf having the time to Nasty Plot anyways.

Ojama · Jul 2nd, 2012, 2:25:46 PM

Gastrodon is 2HKO'd by Psyshock so to be honest, Hidden Power Ground is a better option than Grass Knot or Thunder. It allows Azelf to destroy Heatran which totally walls it. Also, I dont know if U-Turn is really important on this Set. I do agree that U-Turn is very usefull and has to be considered in this set, but to be honest, your Grass Knot is probably a better option over U-Turn or Explosion. This Azelf is definitely used as a midgame sweeper. With Explosion, it allows you to keep the momentum and most of the time, Azelf doesnt go alone in the graveyard (for example, Explosion is usefull against Reuniclus, Mew, etc).

So in my opinion, here is the best Set for this Azelf :

name: Life Orb
move 1: Psyshock / Psychic
move 2: Fire Blast / Flammethrower
move 3: Hidden Power Ground / Grass Knot
move 4: Explosion / Grass Knot / Uturn
item: Life Orb
nature: Naive
evs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

Trinitrotoluene · Jul 2nd, 2012, 9:47:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Ojama

Gastrodon is 2HKO'd by Psyshock so to be honest, Hidden Power Ground is a better option than Grass Knot or Thunder. It allows Azelf to destroy Heatran which totally walls it. Also, I dont know if U-Turn is really important on this Set. I do agree that U-Turn is very usefull and has to be considered in this set, but to be honest, your Grass Knot is probably a better option over U-Turn or Explosion. This Azelf is definitely used as a midgame sweeper. With Explosion, it allows you to keep the momentum and most of the time, Azelf doesnt go alone in the graveyard (for example, Explosion is usefull against Reuniclus, Mew, etc).

So in my opinion, here is the best Set for this Azelf :

name: Life Orb
move 1: Psyshock / Psychic
move 2: Fire Blast / Flammethrower
move 3: Hidden Power Ground / Grass Knot
move 4: Explosion / Grass Knot / Uturn
item: Life Orb
nature: Naive
evs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

That looks interesting. I'll edit the set accordingly.

SkullCandy · Jul 3rd, 2012, 3:38:17 AM

That's a pretty bad case of slashitis.

**ginganinja** · Jul 3rd, 2012, 7:01:38 AM

IMO I just think we can slash Explosion / U-Turn with Nasty Plot and just re name the set already onsite as "Offensive". I won't give this a final rejection however, until we finalise the QC position.

QC Rejected 3/3

I think we can just Explosion on the Special Attacker set and call it a day?

Its not like its massively different

**Fatecrashers** · Jul 4th, 2012, 10:51:40 PM

this elf is azz

Jul 2nd, 2012, 2:12:33 PM	#26
Pocket Bakuman ;< Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 7,160 Bergenfield	I agree with ginganinja and shrang - slash U-turn with Nasty Plot and rename the set as "Special Attacker" QC Rejected (2/3) PS: I like Ojam's set - I never found Azelf having the time to Nasty Plot anyways. __________________ Dark Horse Project: Conquer the Ladder! \| Word of Wisdom for Trainers \| Smogon Doubles: Let's Make It Official! Last edited by Pocket; Jul 2nd, 2012 at 2:52:26 PM.

Jul 3rd, 2012, 3:38:17 AM	#29
SkullCandy She Bangs The Drums Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 558	That's a pretty bad case of slashitis. __________________ C&C The Smog I <3 the Stone Roses

Jul 3rd, 2012, 7:01:38 AM	#30
ginganinja Delena 4ever Moderator Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 3,080 In Love	IMO I just think we can slash Explosion / U-Turn with Nasty Plot and just re name the set already onsite as "Offensive". I won't give this a final rejection however, until we finalise the QC position. QC Rejected 3/3 I think we can just Explosion on the Special Attacker set and call it a day? Its not like its massively different __________________ Last edited by ginganinja; Jul 3rd, 2012 at 9:03:41 PM.

Jul 4th, 2012, 10:51:40 PM	#31
Fatecrashers UNH UNH UNH UNH Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 4,915	this elf is azz __________________

Jul 2nd, 2012, 2:25:46 PM	#27
Ojama If just for one day I wish I could disappear Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,368 Too close to see	Gastrodon is 2HKO'd by Psyshock so to be honest, Hidden Power Ground is a better option than Grass Knot or Thunder. It allows Azelf to destroy Heatran which totally walls it. Also, I dont know if U-Turn is really important on this Set. I do agree that U-Turn is very usefull and has to be considered in this set, but to be honest, your Grass Knot is probably a better option over U-Turn or Explosion. This Azelf is definitely used as a midgame sweeper. With Explosion, it allows you to keep the momentum and most of the time, Azelf doesnt go alone in the graveyard (for example, Explosion is usefull against Reuniclus, Mew, etc). So in my opinion, here is the best Set for this Azelf : name: Life Orb move 1: Psyshock / Psychic move 2: Fire Blast / Flammethrower move 3: Hidden Power Ground / Grass Knot move 4: Explosion / Grass Knot / Uturn item: Life Orb nature: Naive evs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe